CoD Black Ops 2 Wii U has more players than KZ Shadow Fall

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#202 Heil68
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Oh well, long as the game sold over 2 million and PS4 console > WiiU all is well in the world and #SDC.

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#203 DarthRamms
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lol

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#204 DaBrainz
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But KZ sucks. Now compare COD ghost numbers on PS4.

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#205 PurpleMan5000
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This is hilarious. I will be interested in comparing the number of online players on Mario Kart 8 to those on this year's COD on the PS4, though. I think MK8 will be more active. Time will tell.

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#206  Edited By deactivated-5c8ff6a32bb23
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@Midnightshade29 said:

@tdkmillsy said:

Makes you wonder what all these PS4 owners are playing.

Infamous and indie games spring to mind.

Oh...I don't know lets see my ps4 games list....

Watch Dogs

Wolfenstien

Daylight

Child of Light

Transistor

Thief

Outlast

Strike Suit Zero

Battlefield 4

Mercanary Kings

Contrast

Resogun

Sound Shapes

Fez

Zen Pinball 2

Pinball Arcade

Assassins Creed 4

Lego Marvel

Infamous Second son

Don't Starve

Resogun

War thunder

DCUO

Warframe

Super Motherload

And i traded in Killzone shadowfall to get watch dogs.... only becuase the game was not a real killzone. the Killzone on the vita is a better killzone game.. that game had the same dark weighty feel as KZ2 and 3, KZ:Sf felt like Crysis on all the bad levels. If I wanted crysis I would play that.

All my list here is a mix of AAA and indies ... why did you leave out all these games... they don't exist to you? I wouldn't be playing them anywhere else unless on vita (oh but wait I can and have played most on vita - remote play rocks!!!!)

I only see a few AAA in your list. Watch_Dogs, Infamous Second Son, Lego Marvel, Wolfenstein, etc., are not AAA.

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#207  Edited By NFJSupreme
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No matter what cows say killzone is not relevant. Never has been never will be.

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#208  Edited By cainetao11
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OMG! SONY IS DOOMED!!!!! LOLOLOLOL

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#209  Edited By g0ddyX
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@charizard1605 said:

@g0ddyX said:
@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Cranler said:

I played CoD on pc with 10k players and it can take awhile to find matches. Match making needs at least 20k for it to work well. Any lower and dedi servers browsers are needed so you can find servers in your area.

Less players results in more spread out players which results in more lag.

My experience is pretty different from yours then. I hardly find it "laggy" when playing a match on the WiiU and yeah the more people playing the better, but for Call of Duty or any FPS game in general all you're going to find in abundance of is Team Death Match and finding games in that category takes no time at all.

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try harder.

You must have misunderstood him, and this thread in general, so let me help you here: we are talking about Call of Duty Black Ops 2, not Call of Duty Ghosts.

Talking about COD on the Wii U v COD on other platforms as also stated in my other post.
As Shown Below

"On Wii U COD v Other COD platforms.

COD Ghosts on the Wii U sold 0.33% of the total global sales of COD Ghosts.
There is NO COD GHOST/Black Ops DLC for the Wii U.
The Wii U version is missing onCOD GHOST CLAN system.
PS3, PS4, 360, X1 and PC have more support for COD than Wii U and have more player count than Wii U and contain more members.
At least 10k+. (also applies to Battlefield 4) and no 5 minute wait for matches like you do with Wii U.

Fanboys grasping for straws."

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#210 ninjapirate2000
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Why was KZ hyped so much?

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#211  Edited By DarthRamms
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@ninjapirate2000 said:

Why was KZ hyped so much?

Its was the only noteworthy exclusive game at launch

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#212 NFJSupreme
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@ninjapirate2000: cows hype all there exclusives. Especially the irrelevant ones.

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#213  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

This is hilarious. I will be interested in comparing the number of online players on Mario Kart 8 to those on this year's COD on the PS4, though. I think MK8 will be more active. Time will tell.

MK8 will definitely be more active then both of these combined most likely right now. I wish we could track Mario Kart 8's online population.

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@PurpleMan5000 said:

This is hilarious. I will be interested in comparing the number of online players on Mario Kart 8 to those on this year's COD on the PS4, though. I think MK8 will be more active. Time will tell.

MK8 will definitely be more active then both of these combined most likely right now. I wish we could track Mario Kart 8's online population.

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#215 B4X
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Why wouldn't it have more online players on the WiiU? It is a way better game than that ass fest?

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#216  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@speak_low said:

@finalstar2007 said:

Stupidest comparison ever made.. this makes no sense since there is no mention of time so when was this taken exactly? was it when BO2 released on the WiiU? was the Killzone one taken on a monday morning?

this pretty much means nothing if there is no exact time and day of when both were taken and there are peak times and off peak times

Oh it's a very stupid comparison. Like the OP was trying to give us a "wake up call" regarding the PS4's popularity.

There are more overall PS4 online players than Wii U online players today, and from here on out. Period.

No desperate Wii U attention threads like this are going to change those facts.

The problem is that well under a percent of PS+ members are even thinking of playing the game. It should be closer to a percent and maybe over 5000 people playing at once.You can brag about the amount of people playing online on the PS4, but when not even a 1% of the people that have PS+ on the somewhat small PS4 userbase is playing the game, but instead deserting that game for games that sold slightly better than that game(around .5 to a million more) then something must be fundamentally wrong with the game and the franchise. Killzone shadow fall sold be beating COD Black Ops WiiU by at least a couple of thousand in terms of online population and they shouldn't be this close or anywere within a thousand away from each other.

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#217  Edited By KBFloYd
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even with the time each screenshot was taken into account. it should not be this close at all for the beast station 4 :(

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#218  Edited By Cranler
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@PurpleMan5000 said:

This is hilarious. I will be interested in comparing the number of online players on Mario Kart 8 to those on this year's COD on the PS4, though. I think MK8 will be more active. Time will tell.

Why not compare Mario Kart to PS 4 Ghosts?

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#219 PurpleMan5000
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That would be fine. It will be interesting to see the MK8 numbers, if they ever come out.

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#220 DarthRamms
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MK8 number would probably be very high

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#221  Edited By locopatho
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Those are both pretty much dead communties though, not sure one being slightly less dead is a big deal.

Lol at Cows, remember them mocking Halo 4's online numbers? When Sony's big competitor can't manage a tenth of what Halo gets?

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#222  Edited By VendettaRed07
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Lol. The butt hurt in this thread.

Is this really a fair comparison? No.. But that isn't really the point. It doesn't have to be "fair". But the fact that the primary launch exclusive for the PS4's community is actually less than a watered down wiiU port, is telling of at least something

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#224 M8ingSeezun
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LOL, the KZ franchise were never popular with MP campaigns, to begin with.

Halo and CoD multiplayer >>>>> all KZ MP.

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#225 Master_ShakeXXX
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This board is basically Neogaf, but more stupid. Imagine that there's a bunch of stupid people copy/pasting threads from Neogaf and boom, you have System Wars. Actually there is no imagining to it. That is literally System Wars.

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@Master_ShakeXXX said:

This board is basically Neogaf, but more stupid. Imagine that there's a bunch of stupid people copy/pasting threads from Neogaf and boom, you have System Wars. Actually there is no imagining to it. That is literally System Wars.

How is that you have posted on a forum with, liquid, darklink, snipes, mooksi, and the like, and your analogies suck dick?

Mad vanilla.

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#227 LegatoSkyheart
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@locopatho: Those Halo 4 numbers were sad too.

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#228 WiiPants
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I feel bad for Shadow Fail. The gaming gods can be so cruel. It didn't deserve this fate.

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#229 EducatingU_PCMR
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Cows don't like the 960x1080

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#230 Master_ShakeXXX
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@jg4xchamp said:

@Master_ShakeXXX said:

This board is basically Neogaf, but more stupid. Imagine that there's a bunch of stupid people copy/pasting threads from Neogaf and boom, you have System Wars. Actually there is no imagining to it. That is literally System Wars.

How is that you have posted on a forum with, liquid, darklink, snipes, mooksi, and the like, and your analogies suck dick?

Mad vanilla.

I'm just repeating truths... possibly in a more shitty fashion but atleast they're truths!

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#231  Edited By LadyBlue
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Lol black ops. Poor sheep being subjected to that crap. Maybe one day you'll get another good fps(no Prime, that was avarage).

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#232  Edited By Cranler
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Black Ops online total means nothing. On pc there's a similar online total but when you go into the playlists you see that there's nowhere near that many people playing

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#233  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@speak_low said:

@super600 said:

@speak_low said:

Oh it's a very stupid comparison. Like the OP was trying to give us a "wake up call" regarding the PS4's popularity.

There are more overall PS4 online players than Wii U online players today, and from here on out. Period.

No desperate Wii U attention threads like this are going to change those facts.

The problem is that well under a percent of PS+ members are even thinking of playing the game. It should be closer to a percent and maybe over 5000 people playing at once.You can brag about the amount of people playing online on the PS4, but when not even a 1% of the people that have PS+ on the somewhat small PS4 userbase is playing the game, but instead deserting that game for games that sold slightly better than that game(around .5 to a million more) then something must be fundamentally wrong with the game and the franchise. Killzone shadow fall sold be beating COD Black Ops WiiU by at least a couple of thousand in terms of online population and they shouldn't be this close or anywere within a thousand away from each other.

I don't know much about Killzone online modes and I don't have Shadowfall (never played a KZ online), but did that picture take a pic of the right menu - are those global KZ:SF players or just for a certain mode?

Gears of War 3 has sub menus showing specialty modes where there are almost no people playing. Completely dead. Take a picture of that and someone will go "yup, dead. I knew it."

Then, click "B" a couple times to go back to the main online menus and you'll see that still actually has 1,500-2,500 worldwide (to this day). It depends which menu you take the numbers from.

I'm not going to pretend KZ was ever a huge online game. If it truly has low numbers, I doubt anyone would even deny it, and I don't think anyone here ever said this game would rival CoD in online players. KZ would not even enter our minds as one of the Top 5 leading candidates for biggest online PS4 games.

But as I said before, this thread was made to make it seem as if trouble is brewing ahead in the next six months for PS4 online, and that the Wii U has some untapped resiliency that will come in useful one day. That is a funny daydream to have. If this thread actually had a good point, it would provide pics of many PS4 games showing online ghost towns and the Wii U beating them in online numbers. Then something called a point would've been made, and legitimate concern would be raised about the PS4.

This KZ comparison is like a supermarket screaming "We are no longer selling Diet Crush soda. Alert the media!! Soda sales crisis imminent." Nobody cares and this baby-sized bit of news says nothing about the larger whole at all.

And once again, when more accurate CoD PS4 vs CoD Wii U numbers are asked for, not a peep (more accurate is bad!). When you properly align something using better fixed points of comparison, Sheep kind of run away fast.

The Tc was talking about how a game that sold approximately 10X times more than a game that sold approximately 200K-250K on a console that is selling really bad should not have online population numbers anywere near the game that sold 200K-250K . Less people own killzone sf now compared to launch which may have influenced the game's online numbers a bit. Nothing is wrong with the PS4's online, but something is definitely wrong with Killzone SF which is preventing it from taking advantage of the larger online base on the PS4 compared to the WiiU. I heard killzone sf shows the amount of people playing on the server you are on currently. I don't expect the amount of people playing the game to differ that much from server to server

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#234 DefconRave
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Bwahahahahaha :P

Meh, Playstation will always be sp centric which I appreciate.

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#235  Edited By FragTycoon
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What are PS4 CoD numbers versus WiiU? Isn't that a more relevant argument?

Saying CoD is more popular than KZ is kinda matter of fact isn't it?

Oh right, we have to pretend TC isn't a sheep who spends every day trying to make PS4 look bad and WiiU look good......

.... good luck with that TC.

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#236  Edited By glez13
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LOL

My brother gifted me the original BLOPS a few weeks ago for PC and it's usually past the 1,000 count online.

@Cranler said:

Black Ops online total means nothing. On pc there's a similar online total but when you go into the playlists you see that there's nowhere near that many people playing

From my experience with BLOPS on PC, you have to reload many times to get all the servers or at least different ones. Usually I have to use the favorites/recently played option because of this. Maybe it's something similar with BLOPS 2.

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#237 Cranler
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@FragTycoon said:

What are PS4 CoD numbers versus WiiU? Isn't that a more relevant argument?

Saying CoD is more popular than KZ is kinda matter of fact isn't it?

Oh right, we have to pretend TC isn't a sheep who spends every day trying to make PS4 look bad and WiiU look good......

.... good luck with that TC.

Your logic has no place in this thread.

@glez13 said:

LOL

My brother gifted me the original BLOPS a few weeks ago for PC and it's usually past the 1,000 count online.

@Cranler said:

Black Ops online total means nothing. On pc there's a similar online total but when you go into the playlists you see that there's nowhere near that many people playing

From my experience with BLOPS on PC, you have to reload many times to get all the servers or at least different ones. Usually I have to use the favorites/recently played option because of this. Maybe it's something similar with BLOPS 2.

Black Ops 2 on pc does away with traditional dedi servers in favor of matchmaking, same exact system as Wiiu.

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@g0ddyX said:

Talking about COD on the Wii U v COD on other platforms as also stated in my As Shown Below"On Wii U COD v Other COD platforms.

other post.

COD Ghosts on the Wii U sold 0.33% of the total global sales of COD Ghosts.

There is NO COD GHOST/Black Ops DLC for the Wii U.

The Wii U version is missing onCOD GHOST CLAN system.

PS3, PS4, 360, X1 and PC have more support for COD than Wii U and have more player count than Wii U and contain more members.

At least 10k+. (also applies to Battlefield 4) and no 5 minute wait for matches like Fanboys grasping for straws."you do with Wii U.

Grasping for straws? You mean like you do with your typical Nintendo hate that gets to way off places?

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#239  Edited By tormentos
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Cranler: we would put ZombiU up since that would make much more sense (exclusive vs exclusive) but Ubisoft opt out in giving that game online Multiplayer. (Which is a shame because ZombiU's multiplayer is awesome!) and this isn't a thread about sales, its about the depressing state of Killzone's multiplayer

@Shewgenja: main point Blops 2 on WiiU is being the show boy is because when that game showed up for the console many of you (GAF included) were showing off the absymal numbers at launch and laughing about it. When it was reported that Shadowfall became the best selling Killzone ever, Cows cheered. This is to show case a WEAKER INFERIOR VERSION of Call of Duty BLOPs 2 is getting WAY MORE ATTENTION than the HIGHEST SELLING KILLZONE OF ALL TIME on the FASTEST SELLING GAME SYSTEM OF ALL TIME. Thats saying a lot and its sad.

Yeah but unlike Black ops 2 which was incredibly popular with more than 400k players most of the time on PS3,Killzone has never everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr been even close to those numbers,Killzone 2 didn't and its numbers were always made fun of,so were Killzone 3 ones,face it Killzone was never popular online.

Which is a totally different matter with Black ops 2,which was hugely popular.

Killzone never have a community relative to its retailers sales ever.

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#240 shawn30
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@tormentos said:

@LegatoSkyheart said:

@Cranler: we would put ZombiU up since that would make much more sense (exclusive vs exclusive) but Ubisoft opt out in giving that game online Multiplayer. (Which is a shame because ZombiU's multiplayer is awesome!) and this isn't a thread about sales, its about the depressing state of Killzone's multiplayer

@Shewgenja: main point Blops 2 on WiiU is being the show boy is because when that game showed up for the console many of you (GAF included) were showing off the absymal numbers at launch and laughing about it. When it was reported that Shadowfall became the best selling Killzone ever, Cows cheered. This is to show case a WEAKER INFERIOR VERSION of Call of Duty BLOPs 2 is getting WAY MORE ATTENTION than the HIGHEST SELLING KILLZONE OF ALL TIME on the FASTEST SELLING GAME SYSTEM OF ALL TIME. Thats saying a lot and its sad.

Yeah but unlike Black ops 2 which was incredibly popular with more than 400k players most of the time on PS3,Killzone has never everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr been even close to those numbers,Killzone 2 didn't and its numbers were always made fun of,so were Killzone 3 ones,face it Killzone was never popular online.

Which is a totally different matter with Black ops 2,which was hugely popular.

Killzone never have a community relative to its retailers sales ever.

All truth here. Can't argue with a single point made.

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#241  Edited By Evo_nine
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@DarthRamms said:

@ninjapirate2000 said:

Why was KZ hyped so much?

Its was the only noteworthy exclusive game at launch

because cow.

don't worry, the smart ones knew it was shit.

oh yeah and lol next halo lol

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#242 PannicAtack
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Lol I remember that one dude trying to compare the numbers of people playing Counter-Strike to the number of people who bought Killzone: SF to try to claim that Killzone was more popular.

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#243 DarthRamms
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@Evo_nine said:

@DarthRamms said:

@ninjapirate2000 said:

Why was KZ hyped so much?

Its was the only noteworthy exclusive game at launch

because cow.

don't worry, the smart ones knew it was shit.

oh yeah and lol next halo lol

forcing them to defend this is pretty funny

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#244 Alucard_Prime
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lol.....not surprised considering this game did not even support online voice chat at launch. I hear it is quite the looker though, and runs at 1080p native.

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#245 g0ddyX
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@g0ddyX said:

Grasping for straws? You mean like you do with your typical Nintendo hate that gets to way off places?

Not hate, facts. Facts that make Sheep butthurt.
Complain to Nintendo for not getting better hardware and better third party support, not me.
This thread has already been cleaned up.

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#246  Edited By super600  Moderator
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@g0ddyX said:

@nintendoboy16 said:

@g0ddyX said:

Grasping for straws? You mean like you do with your typical Nintendo hate that gets to way off places?

Not hate, facts. Facts that make Sheep butthurt.

Complain to Nintendo for not getting better hardware and better third party support, not me.

This thread has already been cleaned up.

This thread has nothing to do with the WiiU's problems.The OP is talking about how a game on a console that is selling better is struggling to keep a viable multiplayer population that is above a game on a console that is selling horribly.

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I´m surprised that so many people are still playing that garbage,Killzone was always a mediocre franchise at best,pretty much just a graphical showcase but as a game,they´re shit.

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@NFJSupreme said:

No matter what cows say killzone is not relevant. Never has been never will be.

Agreed. Worst Sony IP by far. Just kill it with fire I say.

Resistance 4 will rise from its ashes.

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@speak_low said:

@finalstar2007 said:

Stupidest comparison ever made.. this makes no sense since there is no mention of time so when was this taken exactly? was it when BO2 released on the WiiU? was the Killzone one taken on a monday morning?

this pretty much means nothing if there is no exact time and day of when both were taken and there are peak times and off peak times

Oh it's a very stupid comparison. Like the OP was trying to give us a "wake up call" regarding the PS4's popularity.

There are more overall PS4 online players than Wii U online players today, and from here on out. Period.

No desperate Wii U attention threads like this are going to change those facts.

The TC said nothing about the PS4's popularity, you dolt. He's talking about Killzone specifically.