CoD gets slaughtered for not evolving, but is Battlefield all that different?

The way I see it they're both FPS war games that just play very differently and cater to different markets; one is a 'tactical' warfare game spanning large maps and one is more of a shoot 'em up arcade warfare game.Having played BF3, the formula is essentially the same as BF:BC2, BF:2142 e.t.c.

I don't think it's really evolved that much more than CoD but don't get me wrong, I can see why neither of them have evolved; they're both very good at what they do and people will still buy them in their millions.

Thoughts SW?

I belive Battlefield has evolved and COD hasn't.

Nothing changed in BF except the graphics/MP improvements. It's still the same old "GADOOSH, BOOM, ACK ACK ACK!"

I can't comment on the SP as I haven't got round to it yet, hopefully they've made it a little harder than BC2 :P

Because COD is COD

I agree, I don't really see the difference between BF3 and BF2 besides graphics.Loegi

I don't know.It had a graphical overhaul.

Haven't played it besides the Beta.Will probably get it when it's cheaper.

BF doesnt come out every yearmems_1224

BF2 had a large list of classes, many of which were useless.

BF2142 condensed them into four very useful and custimzable classes.

BF Vietnam tried guerilla war with the vietcong, by allowing the use of stealth traps like pungi sticks, poison, and environmental traps.

BF1942 had fleets of aircraft and battleships and submarines and large land battles (all in one map) and 64 players way back in 2002.

BF2142 tested the water with future war and brought the well-loved titan mode out.

BF3 removes BC2's CoD style perks in favor of realistic gear packages, as well as suppression effects. Also, vehicles can now catch fire, break down, and malfunction. Explosive projectiles that hit a vehicle can kill the occupants and not destroy the vehicle, depending on where it gets hit. An RPG may hit a hummer in the side door and the guy sitting there may be killed instantly while the others live.

To say every BF plays the same is ignorance.

From Wikipedia:

2002 Battlefield 1942

2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome

2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII

2004 Battlefield Vietnam

2005 Battlefield 2

2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces

2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces

2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury

2006 Battlefield 2142

2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike

2008 Battlefield: Bad Company

2009 Battlefield Heroes

2009 Battlefield 1943

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam

2011 Battlefield Play4Free

2011 Battlefield 3

Seems like it released every year.Loegi

rofl @ those in red. If you're gonna include those, then I'm going to count the CoD map packs

[QUOTE="Loegi"]From Wikipedia:

2002 Battlefield 1942

2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome

2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII

2004 Battlefield Vietnam

2005 Battlefield 2

2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces

2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat

2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces

2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury

2006 Battlefield 2142

2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike

2008 Battlefield: Bad Company

2009 Battlefield Heroes

2009 Battlefield 1943

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2

2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam

2011 Battlefield Play4Free

2011 Battlefield 3

Seems like it released every year.wis3boi

rofl @ those in red. If you're gonna include those, then I'm going to count the CoD map packs

BF3's MP does have changes...

Using a knife is rarely effective against a front-facing enemy and is best used for from-behind stealth kills. The addition of the tactical laser/flashlight is amazing how it temporarily blinds the opponent if you catch them in the eyes with it. The suppresion system, how suppressed players' accuracy and vision suffers, is a purely brilliant addition. Being able to disable vehicles first, instead of being able to outright destroy them, is nice. The on-screen grenade indicator is nicely done and probably my favorite of any FPS so far.

The maps in BF3 are perfect for the scope of the battles and the weapon designs in the game are done very well. The sound effects, like hearing a difference between a shot being fired from a sniper or one from an assault rifle, is probably the best I've ever heard. The squad setup makes much more sense now, and all the weapons seem to be balanced well.

There are a lot of other changes, as well. Play the game and see.

BF2 had a large list of classes, many of which were useless. It also added commander mode, unlockables and squads.

BF2142 condensed them into four very useful and custimzable classes.

BF Vietnam tried guerilla war with the vietcong, by allowing the use of stealth traps like pungi sticks, poison, and environmental traps.

BF1942 had fleets of aircraft and battleships and submarines and large land battles (all in one map) and 64 players way back in 2002.

BF2142 tested the water with future war and brought the well-loved titan mode out.

BF3 removes BC2's CoD style perks in favor of realistic gear packages, as well as suppression effects. Also, vehicles can now catch fire, break down, and malfunction. Explosive projectiles that hit a vehicle can kill the occupants and not destroy the vehicle, depending on where it gets hit. An RPG may hit a hummer in the side door and the guy sitting there may be killed instantly while the others live.

To say every BF plays the same is ignorance.

wis3boi

Added a bit (in bold).

Hmm, nice list, really BF has changed a bit throughout the era. Sure there are IPs that have changed more but Battlefield has hardly been a stagnant series. And dont forget the addition of new game modes like Rush.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]BF doesnt come out every yearLoegi

[QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]BF doesnt come out every yearGTAV2012

[QUOTE="Loegi"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]BF doesnt come out every yearGTAV2012

Not really, since the majority of those 'games' wouldn't be considered 'new' Battlefield titles. And if you look at that list, and have played the games, you would know that BF has actually changed quite a bit over the years.

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="Loegi"] From Wikipedia: 2002 Battlefield 1942 2003 Battlefield 1942: The Road to Rome 2003 Battlefield 1942: Secret Weapons of WWII 2004 Battlefield Vietnam 2005 Battlefield 2 2005 Battlefield 2: Special Forces 2005 Battlefield 2: Modern Combat 2006 Battlefield 2: Euro Forces 2006 Battlefield 2: Armored Fury 2006 Battlefield 2142 2007 Battlefield 2142: Northern Strike 2008 Battlefield: Bad Company 2009 Battlefield Heroes 2009 Battlefield 1943 2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2 2010 Battlefield: Bad Company 2: Vietnam 2010 Battlefield Online 2011 Battlefield Play4Free 2011 Battlefield 3 Seems like it released every year. EDIT: forgot the quote -_-'Blueresident87

Not really, since the majority of those 'games' wouldn't be considered 'new' Battlefield titles. And if you look at that list, and have played the games, you would know that BF has actually changed quite a bit over the years.

I agree, I don't really see the difference between BF3 and BF2 besides graphics.Loegi

Here's why - Battlefield 1942, and certainly BF2, play way way better in online multiplay than CoD has EVER achieved. It hit it's peak in 2007 with CoD4 - it's been on a decline since then - and CoD4 was just a well balanced and designed, run-and-gun shooter with lots of tight corners to guaruntee some easy kills. It never even came close to being as deep as the oldest Battlefield game, it's always been on a different concept level.Kan0nF0dder

Map packs..really?

Dear lord..

Map packs..really?

Dear lord..

freedomfreak

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Map packs..really?

Dear lord..

Ironbash

IMO... Battlefield 3 feels exactly like Bad Company 2 with different maps.

Not including expansion packs and F2P games.

Call of Duty - 2003

Call of Duty: Finest Hour - 2004

Call of Duty 2 - 2005

Call of Duty: Big Red One - 2005

Call of Duty 3 - 2006

Call of Duty: Road to Victory - 2007

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - 2007

Call of Duty: World at War - 2008

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 2009

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 2010

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 2011

_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Battlefield 1942 - 2002

Battlefield Vietnam - 2004

Battlefield 2 - 2005

Battlefield 2: Modern Comabat - 2005

Battlefield 2142 - 2006

Battlefield: Bad Company - 2008

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 2010

Battlefield 3 - 2011

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Here's why - Battlefield 1942, and certainly BF2, play way way better in online multiplay than CoD has EVER achieved. It hit it's peak in 2007 with CoD4 - it's been on a decline since then - and CoD4 was just a well balanced and designed, run-and-gun shooter with lots of tight corners to guaruntee some easy kills. It never even came close to being as deep as the oldest Battlefield game, it's always been on a different concept level.GTAV2012

Why you calling him kid?

And the Halo franchise did far more for the gaming industry than COD. You sound like a pure fanboy.

[QUOTE="Ironbash"][QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

Map packs..really?

Dear lord..

freedomfreak

IMO... Battlefield 3 feels exactly like Bad Company 2 with different maps.

RyanShazam

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]

[QUOTE="Ironbash"] Paying for content which should be on the disc? Rehashes of the same map types? Overpricing your DLC? Really? Ironbash

Nothing changed in BF except the graphics/MP improvements. It's still the same old "GADOOSH, BOOM, ACK ACK ACK!"

TrapJak

Not including expansion packs and F2P games.

Call of Duty - 2003

Call of Duty: United Offensive - 2004

Call of Duty: Finest Hour - 2004

Call of Duty 2 - 2005

Call of Duty: Big Red One - 2005

Call of Duty 3 - 2006

Call of Duty: Road to Victory - 2007

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare - 2007

Call of Duty: World at War - 2008

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - 2009

Call of Duty: Black Ops - 2010

Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 - 2011

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Battlefield 1942 - 2002

Battlefield Vietnam - 2004

Battlefield 2 - 2005

Battlefield 2: Modern Comabat - 2005

Battlefield 2142 - 2006

Battlefield: Bad Company - 2008

Battlefield: Bad Company 2 - 2010

Battlefield 3 - 2011

el3m2tigre

[QUOTE="GTAV2012"][QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Here's why - Battlefield 1942, and certainly BF2, play way way better in online multiplay than CoD has EVER achieved. It hit it's peak in 2007 with CoD4 - it's been on a decline since then - and CoD4 was just a well balanced and designed, run-and-gun shooter with lots of tight corners to guaruntee some easy kills. It never even came close to being as deep as the oldest Battlefield game, it's always been on a different concept level.Blueresident87

Why you calling him kid?

And the Halo franchise did far more for the gaming industry than COD. You sound like a pure fanboy.

[QUOTE="Kan0nF0dder"]Here's why - Battlefield 1942, and certainly BF2, play way way better in online multiplay than CoD has EVER achieved. It hit it's peak in 2007 with CoD4 - it's been on a decline since then - and CoD4 was just a well balanced and designed, run-and-gun shooter with lots of tight corners to guaruntee some easy kills. It never even came close to being as deep as the oldest Battlefield game, it's always been on a different concept level.GTAV2012

[QUOTE="wis3boi"][QUOTE="GTAV2012"] Good ownage, I laughed out loud.GTAV2012

Since when are expansion packs that need the original game to run counts as a stand-alone title?

Also you have to notice that some of those titles are only for PC and others are only for consoles so you can't mix all of them together like that . For example on PC fans had to wait 2 year for a new Battlefield at certain point, something similar for console gamers.