COD haters are hypocrites

All these people who say they hate COD are complete and total phonies. And I can easliy prove it, wacth:

1. You can check just about any COD haters PS3/360 Gamertag and you will find that they play COD on a regular basis, and that they have a fair amount of trophies/achievements for it. Ya you really hate COD don't ya? :roll: Your not fooling anyone, stop trying to act "cool" on the internt (which is just silly, only I'm cool on the internet and real life)

2. You COD haters say the series doesn't change much, fair enough it reallyhasn't, and you say that's why you hate it. Well here is where the hypocirisy comes in, do you play Assassin Creed? Battlefield? Halo? SSBB? Gears of War? God of War? Any sports game like Madden ect..? Than guess what? Your a hypocrite! None of the gamesI mentioned have changed very much over the years, that's right even Battlefield, same two modes and same gameplay as Bad Company and same bad campaign (you know it'strue). There are ALOT of other games I left out, but the fact is that you buy probably buy alot of games that don't change much in their sequels. That makes you a hypocrite.

3. COD haters often say that the series isn't as "hardcore" as other games, well I hate to break it to you but "hardcore" is a damn joke and anyone that thinks they are"hardcore" because they play a video game is kidding themselves. Battlefield isn't more "hardcore" than COD, I would actually argue that the only "hardcore" thing about Battlefield is the waiting. Yep I said it, all you do in the game is walk around for hours trying to get to the base and you rarely ever shoot anyone, the session is full but you rarely ever come across people to shoot in the game, I call it Waiting Field. Also there are some pretty "hardcore" COD players out there and they defiantely kick ass on the game, also if your Xbox Live gamertag is set to PRO, than just lol at you. Your not PRO silly, you don't get paid to play games.

So as you can clearly see, all COD haters are hypocrites. You all play the game, you all play other games that don't change much, and there is no such thing as "hardcore". The reason why COD sells well is because alot of people like the games, and the gameplay doesn't change much because it doesn't have to, it's near perfect. No other FPS even comes close to that except mabey Killzone 3. Also your COD hate opinoin doesn't matter, you are in the minority in real life and you know it, hell you own COD probably yourself but you just don't want to admit it.

COD will change when the fans demand it, as of right now they seem to be happy. Only bad thing IMO about COD is the over priced map packs, I don't buy those I get them for FREE from a couple friends that do (PSN has gamesharing, lol xbox) :P

I hate CoD. Call the FBI. Sue me.

While I don't openly bash on the series, I've never owned a CoD. Never will. In fact, the only fps I do own are KZ2, KZ3, and Resistance 2 (and I didn't even like Resistance)

Your arguments are completely flat and redundant. It's all been said before. Ask a mod to lock this thread and try again.percech

His thread title is right.

Idiots saying how they have Activision "boycotted forever" and will never touch any game from them again. Then that special month of the year comes and every one of them buys CoD.

I don't hate CoD, but I am growing a little tired of it. But if nobody else comes up with an awesome FPS I have to stick with CoD. Battlefield 3 didn't made itself to my expectations.

The good thing is that this year, a whole bunch of FPS's are coming to the PC and some of them are really promising.

COD has easy trophies. It would be a crime not to platinum it.

So what about my argument.

CoD has reused it's gameplay mechanics to many times in a row for the series to be fun for a lot of gamers. CoD fans have got themselves in a position where they can only really enjoy CoD and not enjoy other FPSs. This has led to a carbon copy of the gameplay mechanics of CoD 4 for the past 5 games.

Even the Battlefield series has changed up more. Sure the game modes are the same but the speed in which the player move has completely changed, the hit detection and way the weapons work has completely changed, the destruction has been altered through 4 games in a row, the style of gameplay has been altered, the size of the game has been altered, the way vehicles have been integrated has been altered, the stats and unlock system has been altered, and even the engine has been modified and updated. Sure the core gameplay is roughly the same, but it's not identical like CoD is.

If CoD would at least change up the movement speed, weapon handling, damage calculations, environmental impact, layout of the maps, graphics engine, audio, and try some new gameplay elements that aren't versions of what they already have, then people wouldn't bash it. Instead we've gotten the same game on the same engine using the same mechanics since 2007. Well except WaW, that had larger maps and vehicles.

Playing MW3 after playing BF3 made me realize how much of a grind the series has become. Since 2007 I've played every single CoD game the same. Blast through the campaign in one or two sittings and then dive straight into the multiplayer where I unlock the single best gun I can and use that to get to the max rank. Seriously, with CoD you don't even have to change up your weapon for the different situations you encounter. Every weapon is used one way and it's effected for almost every situation. At least in Halo and other FPSs you need to know what weapon to bring to each fight if you want to stand a chance. Hell even CoD 1 had weapons that were obviously better for certain situations than other. WaW had that too. Now it's just grab your single favorite weapon with your favorite loadout of perks, killstreaks, and attatchments, and just play in every situation with the same loadout. Why would you need to chance?

So what about my argument.

CoD has reused it's gameplay mechanics to many times in a row for the series to be fun for a lot of gamers. CoD fans have got themselves in a position where they can only really enjoy CoD and not enjoy other FPSs. This has led to a carbon copy of the gameplay mechanics of CoD 4 for the past 5 games.

Even the Battlefield series has changed up more. Sure the game modes are the same but the speed in which the player move has completely changed, the hit detection and way the weapons work has completely changed, the destruction has been altered through 4 games in a row, the style of gameplay has been altered, the size of the game has been altered, the way vehicles have been integrated has been altered, the stats and unlock system has been altered, and even the engine has been modified and updated. Sure the core gameplay is roughly the same, but it's not identical like CoD is.

If CoD would at least change up the movement speed, weapon handling, damage calculations, environmental impact, layout of the maps, graphics engine, audio, and try some new gameplay elements that aren't versions of what they already have, then people wouldn't bash it. Instead we've gotten the same game on the same engine using the same mechanics since 2007. Well except WaW, that had larger maps and vehicles.

Playing MW3 after playing BF3 made me realize how much of a grind the series has become. Since 2007 I've played every single CoD game the same. Blast through the campaign in one or two sittings and then dive straight into the multiplayer where I unlock the single best gun I can and use that to get to the max rank. Seriously, with CoD you don't even have to change up your weapon for the different situations you encounter. Every weapon is used one way and it's effected for almost every situation. At least in Halo and other FPSs you need to know what weapon to bring to each fight if you want to stand a chance. Hell even CoD 1 had weapons that were obviously better for certain situations than other. WaW had that too. Now it's just grab your single favorite weapon with your favorite loadout of perks, killstreaks, and attatchments, and just play in every situation with the same loadout. Why would you need to chance?

Wasdie

But you still play COD....so you buy a game that you don't like and play it every year when they release a new one? I never said it was the best FPS of all time, but if you don't like then why do you play it? I don't like Battlefield very much, so I don't play it. I would like to see the COD series change a little, but it's not that big of a deal to me really. Only thing I don't like in COD is the sniping, it's really easy and you can just run up and quick scope people if you want. In other games like Killzone for instance the sniping is very different and trying to quick scope would get you killed fast.

All these people who say they hate COD are complete and total phonies. And I can easliy prove it, wacth:

1. You can check just about any COD haters PS3/360 Gamertag and you will find that they play COD on a regular basis, and that they have a fair amount of trophies/achievements for it. Ya you really hate COD don't ya? :roll: Your not fooling anyone, stop trying to act "cool" on the internt (which is just silly, only I'm cool on the internet and real life)

2. You COD haters say the series doesn't change much, fair enough it reallyhasn't, and you say that's why you hate it. Well here is where the hypocirisy comes in, do you play Assassin Creed? Battlefield? Halo? SSBB? Gears of War? God of War? Any sports game like Madden ect..? Than guess what? Your a hypocrite! None of the gamesI mentioned have changed very much over the years, that's right even Battlefield, same two modes and same gameplay as Bad Company and same bad campaign (you know it'strue). There are ALOT of other games I left out, but the fact is that you buy probably buy alot of games that don't change much in their sequels. That makes you a hypocrite.

3. COD haters often say that the series isn't as "hardcore" as other games, well I hate to break it to you but "hardcore" is a damn joke and anyone that thinks they are"hardcore" because they play a video game is kidding themselves. Battlefield isn't more "hardcore" than COD, I would actually argue that the only "hardcore" thing about Battlefield is the waiting. Yep I said it, all you do in the game is walk around for hours trying to get to the base and you rarely ever shoot anyone, the session is full but you rarely ever come across people to shoot in the game, I call it Waiting Field. Also there are some pretty "hardcore" COD players out there and they defiantely kick ass on the game, also if your Xbox Live gamertag is set to PRO, than just lol at you. Your not PRO silly, you don't get paid to play games.

So as you can clearly see, all COD haters are hypocrites. You all play the game, you all play other games that don't change much, and there is no such thing as "hardcore". The reason why COD sells well is because alot of people like the games, and the gameplay doesn't change much because it doesn't have to, it's near perfect. No other FPS even comes close to that except mabey Killzone 3. Also your COD hate opinoin doesn't matter, you are in the minority in real life and you know it, hell you own COD probably yourself but you just don't want to admit it.

COD will change when the fans demand it, as of right now they seem to be happy. Only bad thing IMO about COD is the over priced map packs, I don't buy those I get them for FREE from a couple friends that do (PSN has gamesharing, lol xbox) :P

ShadowMoses900

But you still play COD....so you buy a game that you don't like and play it every year when they release a new one? I never said it was the best FPS of all time, but if you don't like then why do you play it? I don't like Battlefield very much, so I don't play it. I would like to see the COD series change a little, but it's not that big of a deal to me really. Only thing I don't like in COD is the sniping, it's really easy and you can just run up and quick scope people if you want. In other games like Killzone for instance the sniping is very different and trying to quick scope would get you killed fast.

ShadowMoses900

I bought it because I thought I would try it. I'll admit I had fun with Black Ops because I didn't buy MW2 so I hadn't really played CoD in 2 years.

I've always enjoyed CoD campaigns, but even this one was just flat out average in every way possible. Severly disappointed to the point where I've just given up on the series. Black Op's campaign was only a bit better, but not by much.

Also you probably forget that CoD started on the PC. CoD 1, CoD UO, and CoD 2 are easily the best games in the series with CoD 4 following close behind. This was because they were initially made for the PC. Once the focus was on trying to make the games far more accessible for the console crowd, the crowd which they generated the most sales from CoD 4, the game was doomed. When WaW came out, I bought it a few months later because I was really bored and I remember that year being particularly slow for video games. I played it, enjoyed it a bit, but I knew the game series was pretty much turning into nonsense. MW2's bullcrap with no PC support at all really pissed me off. They fixed that with Black Ops and at least Treyarch tries to make a game balanced, unlike IW and Sledgehammer.

I'll be skipping Black Ops unless they do something really different. Now that BF3 is out and they'll be supporting the game with some really good DLC this year, I don't see a reason for me to pick up CoD ever again.

I don't hate the game. I just think it's the same this with a new box cover. I stopped at B OPS. KZ3 is where all the fun is at now.

[QUOTE="percech"]Your arguments are completely flat and redundant. It's all been said before. Ask a mod to lock this thread and try again.WickoSicko

His thread title is right.

Idiots saying how they have Activision "boycotted forever" and will never touch any game from them again. Then that special month of the year comes and every one of them buys CoD.

Of course you would come to spew crap about CoD being perfect, and anyone who criticizes it is wrong. Don't listen to this guy, he is the biggest CoD fanboy in the forums. You can't see anything wrong, outdated, or repetitive about the series? Can't see that it owes its current success more to marketing and appealing to unskilled players? No? Well then there you go, you are stupid. I haven't bought a CoD since WaW (CoD4 was great, so I thought the next one would b good,I was wrong) I have played a little bit of each new one at friends houses just to see if they changed...nope.

You have a skewed veiw of Battlefield BTW, when I play on most maps with 64, 40, or 32 players, there is very little waiting, its alot easier for you view CoD as the best if you know nothing about other games.

Even sports games have changed more then COD series.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

But you still play COD....so you buy a game that you don't like and play it every year when they release a new one? I never said it was the best FPS of all time, but if you don't like then why do you play it? I don't like Battlefield very much, so I don't play it. I would like to see the COD series change a little, but it's not that big of a deal to me really. Only thing I don't like in COD is the sniping, it's really easy and you can just run up and quick scope people if you want. In other games like Killzone for instance the sniping is very different and trying to quick scope would get you killed fast.

Wasdie

I bought it because I thought I would try it. I'll admit I had fun with Black Ops because I didn't buy MW2 so I hadn't really played CoD in 2 years.

I've always enjoyed CoD campaigns, but even this one was just flat out average in every way possible. Severly disappointed to the point where I've just given up on the series. Black Op's campaign was only a bit better, but not by much.

Also you probably forget that CoD started on the PC. CoD 1, CoD UO, and CoD 2 are easily the best games in the series with CoD 4 following close behind. This was because they were initially made for the PC. Once the focus was on trying to make the games far more accessible for the console crowd, the crowd which they generated the most sales from CoD 4, the game was doomed. When WaW came out, I bought it a few months later because I was really bored and I remember that year being particularly slow for video games. I played it, enjoyed it a bit, but I knew the game series was pretty much turning into nonsense. MW2's bullcrap with no PC support at all really pissed me off. They fixed that with Black Ops and at least Treyarch tries to make a game balanced, unlike IW and Sledgehammer.

I'll be skipping Black Ops unless they do something really different. Now that BF3 is out and they'll be supporting the game with some really good DLC this year, I don't see a reason for me to pick up CoD ever again.

I see your point about PC, I have COD 2 on PC and the campaign is amazing. I enjoyed all the levels in it and my favorite one was either the second one where you blow up the Nazi base by putting C4 around it or the D-day invasion. Sure people say D-day has been done a thousand times but I don't care, it was great in COD 2. I don't know if they made if for consoles or not so I can't comment about it, but I noticed that COD 2 campaign was alot longer than any of the other COD campaingns nowadays. I beat MW2 in about 4 hours I think, BO was longer but not as long as COD 2.

So I see your complaint, the COD games have gotten shorter. Also I wish they would go back to WW2, I like that setting more than Modern Warfare. Still you spent money on it and that's all activision needs, your money. I don't have MW3 yet butI plan to, I only played the online at a friends house but I'm hoping the campaign is longer than MW2. I still think the gameplay of the series is pretty good though.

[QUOTE="WickoSicko"]

[QUOTE="percech"]Your arguments are completely flat and redundant. It's all been said before. Ask a mod to lock this thread and try again.Stalkerfieldsis

His thread title is right.

Idiots saying how they have Activision "boycotted forever" and will never touch any game from them again. Then that special month of the year comes and every one of them buys CoD.

Of course you would come to spew crap about CoD being perfect, and anyone who criticizes it is wrong. Don't listen to this guy, he is the biggest CoD fanboy in the forums. You can't see anything wrong, outdated, or repetitive about the series? Can't see that it owes its current success more to marketing and appealing to unskilled players? No? Well then there you go, you are stupid. I haven't bought a CoD since WaW (CoD4 was great, so I thought the next one would b good,I was wrong) I have played a little bit of each new one at friends houses just to see if they changed...nope.

You have a skewed veiw of Battlefield BTW, when I play on most maps with 64, 40, or 32 players, there is very little waiting, its alot easier for you view CoD as the best if you know nothing about other games.

You're as stupid as one can get. You have no idea that the CoD franchise has 30 million playing fans and that its success has very little to do with marketing.

Let Black Ops 2 have zero marketing, and it would still outsell your favourite game of 2012 by at least 400 %.

[QUOTE="WickoSicko"]

[QUOTE="percech"]Your arguments are completely flat and redundant. It's all been said before. Ask a mod to lock this thread and try again.Stalkerfieldsis

His thread title is right.

Idiots saying how they have Activision "boycotted forever" and will never touch any game from them again. Then that special month of the year comes and every one of them buys CoD.

Of course you would come to spew crap about CoD being perfect, and anyone who criticizes it is wrong. Don't listen to this guy, he is the biggest CoD fanboy in the forums. You can't see anything wrong, outdated, or repetitive about the series? Can't see that it owes its current success more to marketing and appealing to unskilled players? No? Well then there you go, you are stupid. I haven't bought a CoD since WaW (CoD4 was great, so I thought the next one would b good,I was wrong) I have played a little bit of each new one at friends houses just to see if they changed...nope.

You have a skewed veiw of Battlefield BTW, when I play on most maps with 64, 40, or 32 players, there is very little waiting, its alot easier for you view CoD as the best if you know nothing about other games.

I'm not a COD fanboy, but whatever. Alot of games don't change much and people still buy them. AlsoI can't play BF with 60 people, I played it on PS3 lol. The sessions were always full (orjust about)but I rarely came across combat, and when I did I usually ended up getting shot. I got bored and sold the game, in COD I turn it on and play and there's action all around, I don't spend hours walking around looking at the secenery like BF.

Yes, you have proved all CoD haters play the games constantly. Or you haven't. One of those is right.

All these people who say they hate COD are complete and total phonies. And I can easliy prove it, wacth:

1. You can check just about any COD haters PS3/360 Gamertag and you will find that they play COD on a regular basis, and that they have a fair amount of trophies/achievements for it. Ya you really hate COD don't ya? :roll: Your not fooling anyone, stop trying to act "cool" on the internt (which is just silly, only I'm cool on the internet and real life)

2. You COD haters say the series doesn't change much, fair enough it reallyhasn't, and you say that's why you hate it. Well here is where the hypocirisy comes in, do you play Assassin Creed? Battlefield? Halo? SSBB? Gears of War? God of War? Any sports game like Madden ect..? Than guess what? Your a hypocrite! None of the gamesI mentioned have changed very much over the years, that's right even Battlefield, same two modes and same gameplay as Bad Company and same bad campaign (you know it'strue). There are ALOT of other games I left out, but the fact is that you buy probably buy alot of games that don't change much in their sequels. That makes you a hypocrite.

3. COD haters often say that the series isn't as "hardcore" as other games, well I hate to break it to you but "hardcore" is a damn joke and anyone that thinks they are"hardcore" because they play a video game is kidding themselves. Battlefield isn't more "hardcore" than COD, I would actually argue that the only "hardcore" thing about Battlefield is the waiting. Yep I said it, all you do in the game is walk around for hours trying to get to the base and you rarely ever shoot anyone, the session is full but you rarely ever come across people to shoot in the game, I call it Waiting Field. Also there are some pretty "hardcore" COD players out there and they defiantely kick ass on the game, also if your Xbox Live gamertag is set to PRO, than just lol at you. Your not PRO silly, you don't get paid to play games.

So as you can clearly see, all COD haters are hypocrites. You all play the game, you all play other games that don't change much, and there is no such thing as "hardcore". The reason why COD sells well is because alot of people like the games, and the gameplay doesn't change much because it doesn't have to, it's near perfect. No other FPS even comes close to that except mabey Killzone 3. Also your COD hate opinoin doesn't matter, you are in the minority in real life and you know it, hell you own COD probably yourself but you just don't want to admit it.

COD will change when the fans demand it, as of right now they seem to be happy. Only bad thing IMO about COD is the over priced map packs, I don't buy those I get them for FREE from a couple friends that do (PSN has gamesharing, lol xbox) :P

ShadowMoses900

Quite a good argument you have there.Since I dislike CoD and don't play it anymore,will give some opinions:

1.Your first point is great,indeed many CoD "haters" "hate" CoD until the release day,and then buy it and play it a lot.True hypocrites,I often adressed such ppl,and I can't stand them...

2.Well,other series you mentioned don't change their core mechanics,true,but they do have some changes that distinct the sequels from one another.Wasdie gave a good example above regarding BF3(another bland military shooter I dislike and don't own),but it made some changes over its predcessors...

3.Hardcore is no joke,the word hardcore represents a game with steep learning curve,one that takes effort to get good at it.BF3 "borrowed" some CoD elements like simplicity,to be more mainstream,appealing to wider audiences,so yeah,its not really as hardcore as it used to be,but BF2 is very much hardcore,it takes a lot of time & effort to get good at it,and same applies to many old PC FPS games,like Counterstrike.So,hardcore isn't a joke,only there aren't too many hardcore FPS games anymore,especially on consoles...

You're still an idiot when it comes to trolling. And I seriously hope you're trolling. With generalizations as broad as this I can't imagine it being anything else.

CoD is actually cool. CoD 4 that is. On the PC, with promod.

Still can't believe actual gamers are defending the copy-paste jobs that were the next CoD games though...it's more than obvious what Activision is doing here, and yet a lot of people seem to ignore it for some reason.

Ok, I have to ask this right now...am I really the only CoD hater who actually doesn't play the games? Cuz it's really starting to sound odd reading peoples posts about how they go out and buy CoD even though they hate it so much.percech

1. People who "hate" CoD play it so they can pass judgement on it. How can you trust the opinion of someone who hasn't played something they criticize? 2. You just assume those other series don't change much. Have you played them? They do more than just add a new campaign and MP maps. 3. Whether or not one thinks there is something "superior" to a hardcore game, the fact is, Call of Duty is definitely not hardcore. It is as casual as it comes. But that doesn't necessarily make it bad, nor does it mean people "have" to like it. You have no reasonable points here, and just ramble about nothing.foxhound_fox

Your first point-"People who "hate" CoD play it so they can pass judgement on it".They bash the games constantly before its released with arguments like "it never changes",so no,they already know what to expect,and what are they getting,and could get a complete picture by watching some gameplay videos,or playing parts of the game at friend's houses,etc.They are just CoD fans in secret,trying to be "hip" and "cool" by hating on CoD on the Internet...

[QUOTE="percech"]Ok, I have to ask this right now...am I really the only CoD hater who actually doesn't play the games? Cuz it's really starting to sound odd reading peoples posts about how they go out and buy CoD even though they hate it so much.DarthJohnova

Your first point-"People who "hate" CoD play it so they can pass judgement on it".They bash the games constantly before its released with arguments like "it never changes",so no,they already know what to expect,and what are they getting,and could get a complete picture by watching some gameplay videos,or playing parts of the game at friend's houses,etc.They are just CoD fans in secret,trying to be "hip" and "cool" by hating on CoD on the Internet...Rocker6

I hate it and you can check my gamertag all you want.I got a copy of Blops for free and it's still sitting in the shrinkwrap.

I see your point about PC, I have COD 2 on PC and the campaign is amazing. I enjoyed all the levels in it and my favorite one was either the second one where you blow up the Nazi base by putting C4 around it or the D-day invasion. Sure people say D-day has been done a thousand times but I don't care, it was great in COD 2. I don't know if they made if for consoles or not so I can't comment about it, but I noticed that COD 2 campaign was alot longer than any of the other COD campaingns nowadays. I beat MW2 in about 4 hours I think, BO was longer but not as long as COD 2.

So I see your complaint, the COD games have gotten shorter. Also I wish they would go back to WW2, I like that setting more than Modern Warfare. Still you spent money on it and that's all activision needs, your money. I don't have MW3 yet butI plan to, I only played the online at a friends house but I'm hoping the campaign is longer than MW2. I still think the gameplay of the series is pretty good though.

ShadowMoses900

Well be prepared to be disappointed, the campaign is shorter and isn't nearly as fun.

As for the shooting mechanics they are rather great. However they rely on the meatgrinder approach to satisfy now. You have to mow down hundreds of enemies to keep the game fun. However they are often bottlenecked and you're forced to sit behind cover to shoot them all, unlike Serious Sam which you have to be both quick on your feat and know your surroundings.

Unfortunately better AI wouldn't help CoD at all. The shooting mechanics are to precise. You can easily mow down hundreds of guys. Better AI wuldn't make it more of a challenge like Halo or FEAR. It would either make it more annoying or more boring.

So really the path they have taken has been the opposite from what has been needed from the series. Personally I would love to see them go with a more open, large scale version of Killzone 2's combat where the weapons were meaty and had a lot of kick and inaccuracy but have the really large scale conflicts. That would be a good change of pace.

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Your first point-"People who "hate" CoD play it so they can pass judgement on it".They bash the games constantly before its released with arguments like "it never changes",so no,they already know what to expect,and what are they getting,and could get a complete picture by watching some gameplay videos,or playing parts of the game at friend's houses,etc.They are just CoD fans in secret,trying to be "hip" and "cool" by hating on CoD on the Internet...foxhound_fox

Its true how you can't make generalizations.Howewer,most CoD "criticizers" don't actually "criticize" it with arguments,but with childish insults and repeating what others said.There are some ppl who just don't play CoD and will criticize it like myself without resorting to insults(I don't have strong feelings like " hate" towards video games),but MOST "criticizers" are just mindless haters,or at least that's how it looks to me.Also,by buying the game for supporting negative judgement,you support Activi$ion in making more CoD games that will be just as negative...

Its true how you can't make generalizations.Howewer,most CoD "criticizers" don't actually "criticize" it with arguments,but with childish insults and repeating what others said.There are some ppl who just don't play CoD and will criticize it like myself without resorting to insults(I don't have strong feelings like " hate" towards video games),but MOST "criticizers" are just mindless haters,or at least that's how it looks to me.Also,by buying the game for supporting negative judgement,you support Activi$ion in making more CoD games that will be just as negative...Rocker6

[QUOTE="percech"]Your arguments are completely flat and redundant. It's all been said before. Ask a mod to lock this thread and try again.WickoSicko

His thread title is right.

Idiots saying how they have Activision "boycotted forever" and will never touch any game from them again. Then that special month of the year comes and every one of them buys CoD.

I haven't bought a cod game ever or touched one since MW2 so your assumption is flawed.

1. You can check just about any COD haters PS3/360 Gamertag and you will find that they play COD on a regular basis, and that they have a fair amount of trophies/achievements for it. The only reason you'll find MW2 (without achievements) under my games is because my friends have played CoD on my 360. I don't own any Call of Duty game, and I don't want to because I really dislike the franchise. Every CoD game is a rehash, and they're not even very fun.

2. You COD haters say the series doesn't change much, fair enough it reallyhasn't, and you say that's why you hate it. Well here is where the hypocirisy comes in, do you play Assassin Creed? Battlefield? Halo? SSBB? Gears of War? God of War? Any sports game like Madden ect..? I have MLB 10 the Show, but I don't purchase every edition every year, I'm not a sucker. And I don't play any of those other games you've mentioned for the same reason I don't play CoD. Every game is a rehash of the last, so there's no point in buying the latest edition. (Except for Super Smash Brothers Brawl, that game is a true sequel to Melee, I'm not sure why you mentioned that one.)

ShadowMoses900

All these people who say they hate COD are complete and total phonies. And I can easliy prove it, wacth:

1. You can check just about any COD haters PS3/360 Gamertag and you will find that they play COD on a regular basis, and that they have a fair amount of trophies/achievements for it. Ya you really hate COD don't ya? :roll: Your not fooling anyone, stop trying to act "cool" on the internt (which is just silly, only I'm cool on the internet and real life)

2. You COD haters say the series doesn't change much, fair enough it reallyhasn't, and you say that's why you hate it. Well here is where the hypocirisy comes in, do you play Assassin Creed? Battlefield? Halo? SSBB? Gears of War? God of War? Any sports game like Madden ect..? Than guess what? Your a hypocrite! None of the gamesI mentioned have changed very much over the years, that's right even Battlefield, same two modes and same gameplay as Bad Company and same bad campaign (you know it'strue). There are ALOT of other games I left out, but the fact is that you buy probably buy alot of games that don't change much in their sequels. That makes you a hypocrite.

3. COD haters often say that the series isn't as "hardcore" as other games, well I hate to break it to you but "hardcore" is a damn joke and anyone that thinks they are"hardcore" because they play a video game is kidding themselves. Battlefield isn't more "hardcore" than COD, I would actually argue that the only "hardcore" thing about Battlefield is the waiting. Yep I said it, all you do in the game is walk around for hours trying to get to the base and you rarely ever shoot anyone, the session is full but you rarely ever come across people to shoot in the game, I call it Waiting Field. Also there are some pretty "hardcore" COD players out there and they defiantely kick ass on the game, also if your Xbox Live gamertag is set to PRO, than just lol at you. Your not PRO silly, you don't get paid to play games.

So as you can clearly see, all COD haters are hypocrites. You all play the game, you all play other games that don't change much, and there is no such thing as "hardcore". The reason why COD sells well is because alot of people like the games, and the gameplay doesn't change much because it doesn't have to, it's near perfect. No other FPS even comes close to that except mabey Killzone 3. Also your COD hate opinoin doesn't matter, you are in the minority in real life and you know it, hell you own COD probably yourself but you just don't want to admit it.

COD will change when the fans demand it, as of right now they seem to be happy. Only bad thing IMO about COD is the over priced map packs, I don't buy those I get them for FREE from a couple friends that do (PSN has gamesharing, lol xbox) :P

ShadowMoses900

I'm not a COD fanboy, but whatever. Alot of games don't change much and people still buy them. AlsoI can't play BF with 60 people, I played it on PS3 lol. The sessions were always full (orjust about)but I rarely came across combat, and when I did I usually ended up getting shot. I got bored and sold the game, in COD I turn it on and play and there's action all around, I don't spend hours walking around looking at the secenery like BF.

ShadowMoses900

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]Its true how you can't make generalizations.Howewer,most CoD "criticizers" don't actually "criticize" it with arguments,but with childish insults and repeating what others said.There are some ppl who just don't play CoD and will criticize it like myself without resorting to insults(I don't have strong feelings like " hate" towards video games),but MOST "criticizers" are just mindless haters,or at least that's how it looks to me.Also,by buying the game for supporting negative judgement,you support Activi$ion in making more CoD games that will be just as negative...foxhound_fox

On most Internet communities,now,their numbers aren't that big on Gamespot,CoD hate isn't as big here as it used to be,I would say(I remember after BO was announced,ppl here would get a very positive response just by saying "CoD SUCKZ!!!",howewer after it was released,many haters bought it,and it set a new record at the time very quickly),but other sites like Gametrailers for example are filled with many CoD haters who just go with many childish insults,without any true arguments...

But again,there indeed are ppl who criticize CoD with reasonable and level minded arguments,and there are many CoD aspects that can be criticized.

I may be wrong,but such ppl seem like minority in the sea of "cool" haters...

EDIT:Another good source of mindless CoD hate is Youtube,many "CoD suckz" videos saying only childish insults getting positive responses,with comments section filled with same crap...

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I'm not a COD fanboy, but whatever. Alot of games don't change much and people still buy them. AlsoI can't play BF with 60 people, I played it on PS3 lol. The sessions were always full (orjust about)but I rarely came across combat, and when I did I usually ended up getting shot. I got bored and sold the game, in COD I turn it on and play and there's action all around, I don't spend hours walking around looking at the secenery like BF.

Am_Confucius

I don't care, the game was boring. I call it Waiting Field, because all I did was walk around saying "ya this game would be great if I could actually shoot people" also there is no split screen which was just dumb. COD I can play with freinds in my living room, BF you can't. And only two game modes? No variety, and the sequel didn't change that either because the sequel is the same game just like COD.

So I do have expeirinece in the subject, didn't you say that you never played COD before? So how would you know what COD is like then? You have no expereince on it. I played both and COD is the better game IMO.

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I'm not a COD fanboy, but whatever. Alot of games don't change much and people still buy them. AlsoI can't play BF with 60 people, I played it on PS3 lol. The sessions were always full (orjust about)but I rarely came across combat, and when I did I usually ended up getting shot. I got bored and sold the game, in COD I turn it on and play and there's action all around, I don't spend hours walking around looking at the secenery like BF.

ShadowMoses900

I don't care, the game was boring. I call it Waiting Field, because all I did was walk around saying "ya this game would be great if I could actually shoot people" also there is no split screen which was just dumb. COD I can play with freinds in my living room, BF you can't. And only two game modes? No variety, and the sequel didn't change that either because the sequel is the same game just like COD.

So I do have expeirinece in the subject, didn't you say that you never played COD before? So how would you know what COD is like then? You have no expereince on it. I played both and COD is the better game IMO.

CoD is a terrible series. I don't care about trophies, or gaming in general. You lose.aaronmullan

Once Call of Duty has died, it will be remembered as one of the greatest franchise in entertainment history.

It's amazing that no matter how good anything is, as long as it's popular and dominating everything else, it's going to be hated on more than anything else on the market.

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[QUOTE="Am_Confucius"] If you can't find any enemies and gets shot when you see one, you simply suck at the game. I recommend that you talk about subjects you have experience in, for a change.

Am_Confucius

I don't care, the game was boring. I call it Waiting Field, because all I did was walk around saying "ya this game would be great if I could actually shoot people" also there is no split screen which was just dumb. COD I can play with freinds in my living room, BF you can't. And only two game modes? No variety, and the sequel didn't change that either because the sequel is the same game just like COD.

So I do have expeirinece in the subject, didn't you say that you never played COD before? So how would you know what COD is like then? You have no expereince on it. I played both and COD is the better game IMO.

I haven't played CoD since MW, I don't play any of the other series you mentioned and I don't care about being hardcore or not.

Yet I still dislike CoD. What is this sorcery?

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