CONFIRMED: PS4 will Support VOICE and FACIAL Recognition

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#101 delta3074
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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"]The Eye Toy does use a lot of CPU. Just because it doesn't benefit your argument, doesn't mean you can dismiss it. tormentos

 

Link..

 

By the way it can use all the CPU and GPU but since is not mandatory there is no reservation to it.

i agree, it's optional so i doubt would be standard reservation for it, but games it is optional with would obiously be made to use less less CPU to ensure there is enough for the eyetoy if it IS being used to that reservation would be there if you are not using it as well, it's not doing as much as Kinect 2 so i doubt the Hit would be that big anyway. Besides, theoretically SONY could have put in an extra Chip for eyetoy use so there may be no impact on the CPU at all.
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#102 lockjaw333
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[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

WTF, I wants dah gaming machine for crying out loud :? Hell with this, I'm canceling mah preorder and going with The One instead. :twisted:

FoxbatAlpha

Please allow myself to welcome yourself. See you day one Brotha.

Haha. Either you don't know Secret's humor, or you are also being sarcastic. :lol:

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#103 tdkmillsy
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Need to see how well it works first.  Big difference between supporting something and supporting something well.  

Cali3350

PlayStation Camera - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvpCdtjTrAo Full of gimmicks and needs controllers to get the best use (extra cost).

Xbox One Kinect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hi5kMNfgDS4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHN_EknabBU

Blows PS camera away. Things like read lips in the dark, recognise 2 voices at same time. 25 body parts on 6 people instead of 20 on 2 (Kinect 1).

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#104 SecretPolice
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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"][QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

WTF, I wants dah gaming machine for crying out loud :? Hell with this, I'm canceling mah preorder and going with The One instead. :twisted:

lockjaw333

Please allow myself to welcome yourself. See you day one Brotha.

Haha. Either you don't know Secret's humor, or you are also being sarcastic. :lol:

tehe, I was puzzeled as well so I just let it be. :P

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#105 lockjaw333
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Well if it wasn't totally clear before, now we can be sure that the PS Camera was intended to be bundled with every PS4 and Sony removed it at the 11th hour to undercut price. I wonder how the landscape would have changed it both systems included a camera peripheral and were selling for $500? The Kinect 2 is clearly a better piece of tech, so I'm curious whether that would have been an edge over the PS4 at the same price point.

I think its also obvious that Sony did a bit of copying here. They saw the potential in Kinect and tried to capture a bit of the magic. Odds are that removing the PS Camera was on the table as an option because the camera's functionality just wasn't that amazing or novel, so I would be highly skeptical that this thing is a worthwhile peripheral. The fact that Sony was okay with removing it and neutering the user base probably lends itself to that assumption.

Lets be clear though, just because Sony has said that the camera has voice and facial recognition, that does NOT mean it will be on par with the Kinect 2. I see a lot of cows claiming that the PS Camera "can do everything the Kinect can do but is optional". I think that is a ridiculous claim.

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#106 ShaineTheNerd
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F*ck Sony and their bullshit NSA spycamcharizard1605
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#107 Wickerman777
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[QUOTE="Wickerman777"]

 

Even if y'all don't care about it there's a good chance it's gonna effect things. Like I mentioned earlier I don't remember hearing about any dedicated silicon for those things like Xbox One has. If there isn't any I wonder how much CPU and/or GPU resources are going to be set aside to support it.

tormentos

NO..

 

Games make for it will use GPU and CPU,when the PS Eye is not there is not no resources been use,hell even if it is there i don't see resource been tied to it Sony build the system to have as low hit on performance as possible,which is why it has extra hardware,but is not only that is the fact that the PS is  not mandatory which basically confirm resources are not need it.

And in fact part of the stuff on the xbox one apu are for Kinect like the Audio block,and i am sure than of the 10% GPU reservation kinect also have to do with that.

 

Kinect has a chip for image processing the audio is done by the audio block,and any interface adition to the UI is done by GPU.

Translation: I won't use common sense until Sony announces it.

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#108 tormentos
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Well if it wasn't totally clear before, now we can be sure that the PS Camera was intended to be bundled with every PS4 and Sony removed it at the 11th hour to undercut price. I wonder how the landscape would have changed it both systems included a camera peripheral and were selling for $500? The Kinect 2 is clearly a better piece of tech, so I'm curious whether that would have been an edge over the PS4 at the same price point.

 

I think its also obvious that Sony did a bit of copying here. They saw the potential in Kinect and tried to capture a bit of the magic. Odds are that removing the PS Camera was on the table as an option because the camera's functionality just wasn't that amazing or novel, so I would be highly skeptical that this thing is a worthwhile peripheral. The fact that Sony was okay with removing it and neutering the user base probably lends itself to that assumption.

 

Lets be clear though, just because Sony has said that the camera has voice and facial recognition, that does NOT mean it will be on par with the Kinect 2. I see a lot of cows claiming that the PS Camera "can do everything the Kinect can do but is optional". I think that is a ridiculous claim.

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Eye toy says high from the grave...:lol:

 

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#109 FoxbatAlpha
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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"]The Eye Toy does use a lot of CPU. Just because it doesn't benefit your argument, doesn't mean you can dismiss it. tormentos

 

Link..

 

By the way it can use all the CPU and GPU but since is not mandatory there is no reservation to it.

Link for what? If the X1 has a separate processor for everything going on. The poor PS4 is still relying on the off the shelf APU. Simple logic.
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#110 FoxbatAlpha
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[QUOTE="lockjaw333"]

Well if it wasn't totally clear before, now we can be sure that the PS Camera was intended to be bundled with every PS4 and Sony removed it at the 11th hour to undercut price. I wonder how the landscape would have changed it both systems included a camera peripheral and were selling for $500? The Kinect 2 is clearly a better piece of tech, so I'm curious whether that would have been an edge over the PS4 at the same price point.

 

I think its also obvious that Sony did a bit of copying here. They saw the potential in Kinect and tried to capture a bit of the magic. Odds are that removing the PS Camera was on the table as an option because the camera's functionality just wasn't that amazing or novel, so I would be highly skeptical that this thing is a worthwhile peripheral. The fact that Sony was okay with removing it and neutering the user base probably lends itself to that assumption.

 

Lets be clear though, just because Sony has said that the camera has voice and facial recognition, that does NOT mean it will be on par with the Kinect 2. I see a lot of cows claiming that the PS Camera "can do everything the Kinect can do but is optional". I think that is a ridiculous claim.

tormentos

 

Eye toy says high from the grave...:lol:

 

You actually think this is going to work good? Sony threw this together at the last minute to compete with MS. I doubt it will even be available at launch.
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#111 tormentos
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Translation: I won't use common sense until Sony announces it.

Wickerman777

 

Lets see i assume it has no reservation because is not a build in product,much like the PS eye on PS3 did not had reservation,and much like the Eye Toy did not had reservation.

You assume it does based on the fact that Kinect has a chip to process images so that most be compesanted with something on PS4.

 

Difference is that Kinect is mandatory,it was build in into the System,the PS eye is not.

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#112 tormentos
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You actually think this is going to work good? Sony threw this together at the last minute to compete with MS. I doubt it will even be available at launch.FoxbatAlpha

 

I don't care if it works at all i am not interested in camera games.

 

I laugh every time some one say that sony copy MS kinect it is a joke the Eye Toy was out on PS2 before the xbox 360 was even launch,a camera is a camera period,Kinect was more advanace an no one can argue that but the concept of using a camera for games didn't come from MS,hell even Nintendo had a gameboy camera sure it let you take a picture of your self and use it on a very simple game,but it was so did the dream cast.

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#113 FoxbatAlpha
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[QUOTE="FoxbatAlpha"] You actually think this is going to work good? Sony threw this together at the last minute to compete with MS. I doubt it will even be available at launch.tormentos

 

I don't care if it works at all i am not interested in camera games.

 

I laugh every time some one say that sony copy MS kinect it is a joke the Eye Toy was out on PS2 before the xbox 360 was even launch,a camera is a camera period,Kinect was more advanace an no one can argue that but the concept of using a camera for games didn't come from MS,hell even Nintendo had a gameboy camera sure it let you take a picture of your self and use it on a very simple game,but it was so did the dream cast.

I am not implying that they copied a camera. They are copying its features as in the topic of voice rec. and commands. Try going one day without twisting something around.
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#114 starwarsjunky
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let me know when the ps eye has something worth actual money to me and i'll consider it...

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#115 Heil68
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Sony leading the way with cutting edge tech.
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#116 FoxbatAlpha
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Sony leading the way with cutting edge tech. Heil68
You might wanna hold on that comment Clark until you see this cutting edge tech being demo'd.
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#117 danjammer69
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[QUOTE="legalize82"]the options TLHBOBluRayHiDef

I'm a fan of SONY whos's ordered the PS4, but as a technophile, I think MS's idea to include the Kinect with every XBOX ONE is understandable and kind of cool; MS is trying to standardize the inclusion of Kinect in the development of XBOX ONE games, which will increase the percentage of games that will make it a major part of the experience. Also, there's the fact that its specs are pretty nice; a full HD (1080P) camera is impressive.

Agreed. I think once the price comes down on Xbone, that the decision to pack Kinect with every system will truly show as a great choice by MS.
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#118 TruthBToldShow
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LOL at lems thinking the ownage comes from cows wanting this and not because Lems have always treated Kinect features as exclusive or that Kinect is even needed.
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#119 tdkmillsy
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[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]

[QUOTE="legalize82"]the options TLHBOdanjammer69

I'm a fan of SONY whos's ordered the PS4, but as a technophile, I think MS's idea to include the Kinect with every XBOX ONE is understandable and kind of cool; MS is trying to standardize the inclusion of Kinect in the development of XBOX ONE games, which will increase the percentage of games that will make it a major part of the experience. Also, there's the fact that its specs are pretty nice; a full HD (1080P) camera is impressive.

Agreed. I think once the price comes down on Xbone, that the decision to pack Kinect with every system will truly show as a great choice by MS.

ooo that statement no matter how true, wont go down well here.
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#120 shawn30
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I hponestly think this should have been in the box even if it would have raised the price. Its one thing to talk about how the voice and motion controls work overall for the sysytem, but when you watch it demonstrated live in front of you, you'd be suprised how peoples reactions, at lesst to me. And I think in stores this is one of the factors, despite what cows think, that will make the One look very good against just another gaming system. But we shall see once these things are hooked up and in stores. Any word on how the tech in the eye matches up to Kinect 2.0?

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#121 TheKingIAm
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It's optional unlike kinect
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#122 Eddie-Vedder
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Noone cares so noone buys it, M$ makes you pay for it :lol: 

 

Get owned lems :lol:

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#123 John_Matherson
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lol it's so funny when lemmings pretend they're happy when MS does something to them or faces them to buy something and then once it happens to cows they claim ownage...dude if you can't pretend that being in a fishbowl is awesome and then make fun of someone when they fall into the same fishbowl as you.
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#124 CanYouDiglt
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So pretty much something else Sony will copy from Microsoft but again not as good.
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#125 CaseyWegner
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lol it's so funny when lemmings pretend they're happy when MS does something to them or faces them to buy something and then once it happens to cows they claim ownage...dude if you can't pretend that being in a fishbowl is awesome and then make fun of someone when they fall into the same fishbowl as you. John_Matherson

after all the bashing that the fish bowl got...

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#126 John_Matherson
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[QUOTE="John_Matherson"]lol it's so funny when lemmings pretend they're happy when MS does something to them or faces them to buy something and then once it happens to cows they claim ownage...dude if you can't pretend that being in a fishbowl is awesome and then make fun of someone when they fall into the same fishbowl as you. CaseyWegner

after all the bashing that the fish bowl got...

Yes the fishbowl was bashed because it deserved to be but the problem is lems claimed it didn't deserve to be and they claimed to love their fishbowl...when they shouldn't.
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#127 CaseyWegner
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By the way still butturt about casey?WilliamRLBaker

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#128 Deevoshun
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Sounds like MS sold the left over Kinects 1.0 to Sony.  Well it's a start right?

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#129 jsmoke03
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i really hope you cows think this is all of a sudden a good thing cuz its not

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#130 CanYouDiglt
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I honestly can not believe any of the Sony diehards are defending this or even worse bragging about this. It really just shows they have no personal opinion of their own but will agree with anything Sony tells them to think.The first thing it is clear this is something with Sony again trying to copy Microsoft but also clearly will not be as good. Second the only thing the Sony fanboys could agree to bash Xbox One on was to bash the Kinect but now Sony wants to have their own second rate Kinect, Third even though the PS4 is completely integrated with companies like Facebook who has be in the nsa clutches as deep as possible but the PS4 is literally just as bad of a risk with nsa and camera.

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#131 shellcase86
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Was this not confrimed a while ago? Not new.
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#132 X_CAPCOM_X
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Eh I'll pass. Voice operated menus are the bottom of the bottom of digital user interfaces anyway.

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#133 gago-gago
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Did they even do a live demo for this at TGS? Any other conferences before the PS4 launch date? Did they expect people to buy this without knowing how well or not it works?
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#134 CanYouDiglt
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Did they expect people to buy this without knowing how well or not it works?gago-gago
You must be new. Just listen to the average Sony fan and you will see that they do not need to show anything.
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#135 edidili
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Eh I'll pass. Voice operated menus are the bottom of the bottom of digital user interfaces anyway.

X_CAPCOM_X

A controller in the other hand is so much better on navigating in a UI.

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#136 X_CAPCOM_X
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

Eh I'll pass. Voice operated menus are the bottom of the bottom of digital user interfaces anyway.

edidili

A controller in the other hand is so much better on navigating in a UI.



Right? I know some people love voice UIs, but even if I get the camera I won't be using voice and face recognition. 

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#137 masiisam
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It's just posturing.......developers will not take advantage of it simply because the attach rate will be too low. 

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#138 edidili
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[QUOTE="edidili"]

[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

Eh I'll pass. Voice operated menus are the bottom of the bottom of digital user interfaces anyway.

X_CAPCOM_X

A controller in the other hand is so much better on navigating in a UI.



Right? I know some people love voice UIs, but even if I get the camera I won't be using voice and face recognition. 

I was trying to be sarcastic actually. Controller sucks, is not made to navigate OSs. A console is not a PC where you use the mouse to move around or a phone where you use your finger. It is much worse, especially when you have to type some message. Having to scroll right right right in all kind of menus ad nauseam.

It didn't use to be a problem before when all you had was memory card, play disc but now, with user profiles, libraries, achivements, apps, friend lists. 

Yes, voice recognition can help navigating and actually make it much more comfortable than using a controller. Just saying "launch x game" is much faster and comfortable than going to the library scrolling through the games till you find it. 

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#139 donalbane
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Does this mean we'll see Kinect games go multiplat? I'm guessing no since the hardware probably uses different tech... the Microsoft skeletal software probably doesn't have an analogue on the PS4. Then again, who knows. So yeah... KINECT GAMES FOR ALL!
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#140 RR360DD
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And like most Microsoft inspired Sony features, it'll be vastly inferior :lol:

So glad I'm paying the extra £75 for a premium console experience :cool:

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#141 StormyJoe
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I'd be interested in reading the differences between the two.

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#142 Guy_Brohski
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Suddenly, it's an awesome feature,lolrjdofu
Who said that, your ass?

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#143 KillzoneSnake
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Dont care im not buying no cam. Sony doesnt force these things.

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#144 CaseyWegner
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Dont care im not buying no cam. Sony doesnt force these things.

KillzoneSnake

...anymore. then again, they do charge for online play now.

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#145 Guy_Brohski
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Well if it wasn't totally clear before, now we can be sure that the PS Camera was intended to be bundled with every PS4 and Sony removed it at the 11th hour to undercut price. I wonder how the landscape would have changed it both systems included a camera peripheral and were selling for $500? The Kinect 2 is clearly a better piece of tech, so I'm curious whether that would have been an edge over the PS4 at the same price point.

 

I think its also obvious that Sony did a bit of copying here. They saw the potential in Kinect and tried to capture a bit of the magic. Odds are that removing the PS Camera was on the table as an option because the camera's functionality just wasn't that amazing or novel, so I would be highly skeptical that this thing is a worthwhile peripheral. The fact that Sony was okay with removing it and neutering the user base probably lends itself to that assumption.

 

Lets be clear though, just because Sony has said that the camera has voice and facial recognition, that does NOT mean it will be on par with the Kinect 2. I see a lot of cows claiming that the PS Camera "can do everything the Kinect can do but is optional". I think that is a ridiculous claim.

lockjaw333

Why would Sony have charged $500, when their PSEye is only $59? If anything, they would have bundled it with PS4 and charged $50 extra bringing the total package to $450, and it's still cheaper and more powerful than the Bone.

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#146 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

Dont care im not buying no cam. Sony doesnt force these things.

CaseyWegner

...anymore. then again, they do charge for online play now.

When have they ever forced it? Thank Microsoft for that "pay to play" innovation...

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#147 kingtito
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

Dont care im not buying no cam. Sony doesnt force these things.

...anymore. then again, they do charge for online play now.

When have they ever forced it? Thank Microsoft for that "pay to play" innovation...

They're forcing it with the PS4. Sony has a long history of forcing things on it's customers. Don't be def, dumb AND blind your entire life.
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#148 masiisam
Member since 2003 • 5723 Posts

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

[QUOTE="KillzoneSnake"]

Dont care im not buying no cam. Sony doesnt force these things.

StrongBlackVine

...anymore. then again, they do charge for online play now.

When have they ever forced it? Thank Microsoft for that "pay to play" innovation...

They are forcing it for the PS4:|

It's all BS...but one cant say Sony doesnt force things..when now they do..

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#149 deactivated-5f19d4c9d7318
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="CaseyWegner"]

...anymore. then again, they do charge for online play now.

masiisam

When have they ever forced it? Thank Microsoft for that "pay to play" innovation...

They are forcing it for the PS4:|

It's all BS...but one cant say Sony doesnt force things..when now they do..

Yeh so forced, except the number of services behind the PS+ paywall is a fraction of what's locked behind Live... :roll:
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#150 donalbane
Member since 2003 • 16383 Posts
[QUOTE="masiisam"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

When have they ever forced it? Thank Microsoft for that "pay to play" innovation...

hoosier7

They are forcing it for the PS4:|

It's all BS...but one cant say Sony doesnt force things..when now they do..

Yeh so forced, except the number of services behind the PS+ paywall is a fraction of what's locked behind Live... :roll:

The new LIVE is going to have a lot of cool features absent on PSN, though... it's a tradeoff.