Console gamers are going to enjoy better graphics than most PC gamers

So 2/3's of Steam users have a near equivalent or better GPU than Next Gen consoles

and Nearly 1/2 have better processors.

So...what was point of thread again?

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] True, but there are SO many good console games you'll miss out if you're PC only. The difference won't be as dramatic between PS3 and 360, but between PC and Console it is.Suppaman100

There are SO many good PC exclusives.

Console gamers also miss out.  

And I doubt a PC gamer really care about the uncharted games, TLOU, or the halos, when there are so many better games available on PC. At least I don't and I have a PS3.

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Netret0120"]It's about the games. Consoles have better games and exclusives. Graphics aren't that important as long as the game is fun.chrisrooR

Actually, they have less and worse games.

I've counted, we have more AA and AAA games.

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]Try harder. By the time the consoles release, there's going to be far better graphics cards, CPU's and memory on the market. I enjoy console gaming as much as the next person, but in the graphics department consoles can't hold a candle to PC's. Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

. Won't take very long before the PS4 userbase will exceed the tiny userbase that actually own a decent rig.

AdrianWerner

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[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] I'm not saying there aren't. But there are also on console. So what's your point? PC only gamers still miss out.BeardMaster

This is true if nothing else PC gamers are known for their fruitful lives and raw sexual magnetism.

Davekeeh: Your original quote is about EMULATING the Wii U, not a direct hardware comparison of the Wii U to PC hardware. Emulation has more overhead than just the base system. You think the PC can't handle the GTA-style Lego game or Wind Waker HD? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQrffybaSMStinger78

True, most PC gamers have weaker hardware. But still, PCs will catch up really quick with the new consoles.

 

Anyway, PC only gamers will miss out like they always do.

Suppaman100

The guy who wrote this article has no idea what he's talking about. The ps4 wouldn't be able to handle a Wii U emulator either. Just like it can't handle a ps3 emulator. Besides steam hardware survey? Really? So far I've agreed to it on atleast 4 different pc. Of which 2 were weak laptops so it's hardly representative.

[QUOTE="Stinger78"]Davekeeh: Your original quote is about EMULATING the Wii U, not a direct hardware comparison of the Wii U to PC hardware. Emulation has more overhead than just the base system. You think the PC can't handle the GTA-style Lego game or Wind Waker HD? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQrffybaSMDavekeeh

Most non gaming PC's can't*

Stop being an idiot, Davekeeh.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]You know what you will miss out by playing all good games? Having a life. 

NameIess_One

This is true if nothing else PC gamers are known for their fruitful lives and raw sexual magnetism.

well as i understand it, spending more money on hardware guarantees you are wealthier and more successful in life.

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"][QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

There are SO many good PC exclusives.

GuNsbl4ziN

Console gamers also miss out.  

And I doubt a PC gamer really care about the uncharted games, TLOU, or the halos, when there are so many better games available on PC. At least I don't and I have a PS3.

My 3570k to 4.4ghz / 16GB ram Ddr 3 2000 / 7970 3GB Gddr5 rig says NOT gonna happen.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

. Won't take very long before the PS4 userbase will exceed the tiny userbase that actually own a decent rig.

NameIess_One

The guy who wrote this article has no idea what he's talking about. The ps4 wouldn't be able to handle a Wii U emulator either. Just like it can't handle a ps3 emulator. Besides steam hardware survey? Really? So far I've agreed to it on atleast 4 different pc. Of which 2 were weak laptops so it's hardly representative.

Aparthide

Not true, atleast 10 million people have a better PC than the PS4, when the PS4 is released, even more people will have better hardware than the PS4, and from there it keeps on getting worse.

 

0/10

Lumpy311

Tablets with weak hardware are taking over laptops more and more. Desktops are something of the past. Only a selected few will have over the top PCs from now on.

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]It will never happen. How long did it look PS3 to reach 72 mln users? Because that's how many people will be doing 1K upgrades to their PCs regularly in 2015. Somehow I doubt PS4 will sell 72 mln units by 2015

Davekeeh

Sony dev... complementing Sony... surprise.

No, it won't have visuals that compare to a high end PC unless it can run Crysis 3 with everything at max @ 60 fps.

as much as i cant stand how pathetic davekeeh is and try to ignore him to best best of my ability.

 

The only people that annoy me more are the ones calling themselves the master race... and hes got a point. Its gonna be PC peaants for a bit.

BeardMaster

People in this thread mentioning the "master race".

Devakeh, a couple of times.

YOU.

Another guy, tlaking about Manticores, not PC gamers.

As usually, the ocnsolites jump in complaining about the "master race" nonsense, which THEY THEMSELVES  bring up. NOT the PC gamers.

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not true, atleast 10 million people have a better PC than the PS4, when the PS4 is released, even more people will have better hardware than the PS4, and from there it keeps on getting worse.

 

0/10

Vatusus

Tablets with weak hardware are taking over laptops more and more. Desktops are something of the past. Only a selected few will have over the top PCs from now on.

PC gamers normally don't use laptops, and if tablets are going to take over anything, which i doubt, it's gonna be console gaming. PC gaming will never die, as it can easily go back to being niche.

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] I'm not saying there aren't. But there are also on console. So what's your point? PC only gamers still miss out.Suppaman100

Console gamers also miss out.  

And I doubt a PC gamer really care about the uncharted games, TLOU, or the halos, when there are so many better games available on PC. At least I don't and I have a PS3.

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not true, atleast 10 million people have a better PC than the PS4, when the PS4 is released, even more people will have better hardware than the PS4, and from there it keeps on getting worse.

 

0/10

Vatusus

Tablets with weak hardware are taking over laptops more and more. Desktops are something of the past. Only a selected few will have over the top PCs from now on.

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

Not true, atleast 10 million people have a better PC than the PS4, when the PS4 is released, even more people will have better hardware than the PS4, and from there it keeps on getting worse.

0/10

Lumpy311

Tablets with weak hardware are taking over laptops more and more. Desktops are something of the past. Only a selected few will have over the top PCs from now on.

PC gamers normally don't use laptops, and if tablets are going to take over anything, which i doubt, it's gonna be console gaming. PC gaming will never die, as it can easily go back to being niche.

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]It will never happen. How long did it look PS3 to reach 72 mln users? Because that's how many people will be doing 1K upgrades to their PCs regularly in 2015. Somehow I doubt PS4 will sell 72 mln units by 2015

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Lumpy311"]

[QUOTE="Vatusus"]

Tablets with weak hardware are taking over laptops more and more. Desktops are something of the past. Only a selected few will have over the top PCs from now on.

Davekeeh

PC gamers normally don't use laptops, and if tablets are going to take over anything, which i doubt, it's gonna be console gaming. PC gaming will never die, as it can easily go back to being niche.

Most PC gamers have med specs machines, second are high end machines, and third are low spec machines, not everyone that logs into Steam is a PC gamer, when will you learn that the Steam survey is irrelevant?

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] I'm not saying there aren't. But there are also on console. So what's your point? PC only gamers still miss out.Suppaman100

Console gamers also miss out.  

And I doubt a PC gamer really care about the uncharted games, TLOU, or the halos, when there are so many better games available on PC. At least I don't and I have a PS3.

Metacritic... All those scores are based on reviews in which they have played the game for two days or so. The uncharted games may be fun for the first walkthrough, but after that there is no incentive to go play it again, Thus you have spent 60$ on a game which you played for 7 hours. On the other hand games like starcraft 2 hots and dota 2 bring endless entertainment.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

as much as i cant stand how pathetic davekeeh is and try to ignore him to best best of my ability.

 

The only people that annoy me more are the ones calling themselves the master race... and hes got a point. Its gonna be PC peaants for a bit.

Kinthalis

People in this thread mentioning the "master race".

Devakeh, a couple of times.

YOU.

Another guy, tlaking about Manticores, not PC gamers.

As usually, the ocnsolites jump in complaining about the "master race" nonsense, which THEY THEMSELVES  bring up. NOT the PC gamers.

People in general referring to themselves as the master race is innumerable. Save up a few months allowance to buy a half decent GPU and get a superiority complex. Its an affront to me as a gamer, but more importantly. as a human being.

No level of GPU is gonna make a man less mordbidly obese or have less facial hair on his neck.

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

 

Console gamers also miss out.  

And I doubt a PC gamer really care about the uncharted games, TLOU, or the halos, when there are so many better games available on PC. At least I don't and I have a PS3.

AzatiS

Yeah, too bad PC still prevails.

You mean all the 8 users that will buy a PS4/XBone?

The number of PC gamers with rigs that completely outclass a PS4, right now, is already huge, especially when compared to the number of PS4 owners (0) and it will only grow over time.

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

 

Console gamers also miss out.  

And I doubt a PC gamer really care about the uncharted games, TLOU, or the halos, when there are so many better games available on PC. At least I don't and I have a PS3.

GuNsbl4ziN

Metacritic... All those scores are based on reviews in which they have played the game for two days or so. The uncharted games may be fun for the first walkthrough, but after that there is no incentive to go play it again, Thus you have spent 60$ on a game which you played for 7 hours. On the other hand games like starcraft 2 hots and dota 2 bring endless entertainment.

So your logic is flawed and in the end you'll need a console or you'll miss out on the best games that the industry has to offer, this not an opinion but a mere fact.

You mean all the 8 users that will buy a PS4/XBone?

The number of PC gamers with rigs that completely outclass a PS4, right now, is already huge, especially when compared to the number of PS4 owners (0) and it will only grow over time.

nunovlopes

No level of GPU is gonna make a man less mordbidly obese or have less facial hair on his neck.BeardMaster

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] I also have a gaming PC and I can tell you without bias that this last gen the games for console were better than PC. (imo) TLOU, uncharted 2, Super mario galaxy,... >>> any game that came out on PC these last years. Just look at the highest metacritic scores, they're almost only console games.

Suppaman100

Metacritic... All those scores are based on reviews in which they have played the game for two days or so. The uncharted games may be fun for the first walkthrough, but after that there is no incentive to go play it again, Thus you have spent 60$ on a game which you played for 7 hours. On the other hand games like starcraft 2 hots and dota 2 bring endless entertainment.

So your logic is flawed and in the end you'll need a console or you'll miss out on the best games that the industry has to offer, this not an opinion but a mere fact.

It is an opinion, a wrong one, since the PC has more AAA/AA games than consoles.

It will grow very slowly, most people aren't going to buy top tier PC's, especially not in this economy.Davekeeh

[QUOTE="chrisrooR"]Try harder. By the time the consoles release, there's going to be far better graphics cards, CPU's and memory on the market. I enjoy console gaming as much as the next person, but in the graphics department consoles can't hold a candle to PC's. Davekeeh

You're not very bright are you?

For the past few years, there hasn't been a good reason to upgrade since this gen lasted for so long. A 560Ti is still a great card. As new consoles arrive and new games start pushing graphics, PC gamers will have a reason to finally upgrade. I mean, I'm still using a 2007 board, a Q6600, DDR2-800 ram and a 560Ti. It's more than enough to play at settings FAR higher than what the PS3/360 can achieve (I game at 1680x1050, my 22'' monitor native res).

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"] I also have a gaming PC and I can tell you without bias that this last gen the games for console were better than PC. (imo) TLOU, uncharted 2, Super mario galaxy,... >>> any game that came out on PC these last years. Just look at the highest metacritic scores, they're almost only console games.

Suppaman100

Metacritic... All those scores are based on reviews in which they have played the game for two days or so. The uncharted games may be fun for the first walkthrough, but after that there is no incentive to go play it again, Thus you have spent 60$ on a game which you played for 7 hours. On the other hand games like starcraft 2 hots and dota 2 bring endless entertainment.

So your logic is flawed and in the end you'll need a console or you'll miss out on the best games that the industry has to offer, this not an opinion but a mere fact.

Nope. I just told you why those kinds of games score well among "professional" reviewers.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

You mean all the 8 users that will buy a PS4/XBone?

The number of PC gamers with rigs that completely outclass a PS4, right now, is already huge, especially when compared to the number of PS4 owners (0) and it will only grow over time.

Davekeeh

Most people are also not going to throw their PS3/360 away and drop money for a new console. You seem to assume that all PS3/360 owners will instantly upgrade. They will not. Some will, but the number of PS3/360 gamers will be much higher than PS4/XB1 gamers for quite some time.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]No level of GPU is gonna make a man less mordbidly obese or have less facial hair on his neck.NameIess_One

If i had to venture i guess i would imagine its a fairly accurate categorization for the folks generating a superiority complex based on something as trivial as video game hardware.

Obviously im not generalizing an entire userbase, just those that derrive self worth from their video game hardware. Probably lacking in other sources of self esteem, using video game hardware as a last resort.

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]It will never happen. How long did it look PS3 to reach 72 mln users? Because that's how many people will be doing 1K upgrades to their PCs regularly in 2015. Somehow I doubt PS4 will sell 72 mln units by 2015

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]No level of GPU is gonna make a man less mordbidly obese or have less facial hair on his neck.BeardMaster

If i had to venture i guess i would imagine its a fairly accurate categorization for the folks generating a superiority complex based on something as trivial as video game hardware.

Obviously im not generalizing an entire userbase, just those that derrive self worth from their video game hardware. Probably lacking in other sources of self esteem, using video game hardware as a last resort.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"] Answering bad generalizations with even worse generalizations... I too find it affront as a gamer.NameIess_One

If i had to venture i guess i would imagine its a fairly accurate categorization for the folks generating a superiority complex based on something as trivial as video game hardware.

Obviously im not generalizing an entire userbase, just those that derrive self worth from their video game hardware. Probably lacking in other sources of self esteem, using video game hardware as a last resort.

Pretty sure 99% of people on the interenet don't act like this in real life.

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

If i had to venture i guess i would imagine its a fairly accurate categorization for the folks generating a superiority complex based on something as trivial as video game hardware.

 

Obviously im not generalizing an entire userbase, just those that derrive self worth from their video game hardware. Probably lacking in other sources of self esteem, using video game hardware as a last resort.

Lumpy311

Pretty sure 99% of people on the interenet don't act like this in real life.

[QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"] Answering bad generalizations with even worse generalizations... I too find it affront as a gamer.NameIess_One

If i had to venture i guess i would imagine its a fairly accurate categorization for the folks generating a superiority complex based on something as trivial as video game hardware.

Obviously im not generalizing an entire userbase, just those that derrive self worth from their video game hardware. Probably lacking in other sources of self esteem, using video game hardware as a last resort.

For the love of god i think we both hope so. But i also originally thought bronies was comedy schtick.... turns out those guys are real and super serious.

At this point i think its impossible to underestimate humanity, especially in the online realm.

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

If i had to venture i guess i would imagine its a fairly accurate categorization for the folks generating a superiority complex based on something as trivial as video game hardware.

 

Obviously im not generalizing an entire userbase, just those that derrive self worth from their video game hardware. Probably lacking in other sources of self esteem, using video game hardware as a last resort.

Lumpy311

Pretty sure 99% of people on the interenet don't act like this in real life.

[QUOTE="Suppaman100"]

[QUOTE="GuNsbl4ziN"]

 

Metacritic... All those scores are based on reviews in which they have played the game for two days or so. The uncharted games may be fun for the first walkthrough, but after that there is no incentive to go play it again, Thus you have spent 60$ on a game which you played for 7 hours. On the other hand games like starcraft 2 hots and dota 2 bring endless entertainment.

GuNsbl4ziN

So your logic is flawed and in the end you'll need a console or you'll miss out on the best games that the industry has to offer, this not an opinion but a mere fact.

Nope. I just told you why those kinds of games score well among "professional" reviewers.

Look, Suppaman

We could go on and on about what you are missing out on, but we would always end up disagreeing. You enjoy cintematic movie experiences, therfore you will promote console gaming and I enjoy RTSs, MOBAs and FPSs with actual depth and thinking and will therefore promote PC gaming. So be it. 

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

You mean all the 8 users that will buy a PS4/XBone?

The number of PC gamers with rigs that completely outclass a PS4, right now, is already huge, especially when compared to the number of PS4 owners (0) and it will only grow over time.

Davekeeh

[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

You mean all the 8 users that will buy a PS4/XBone?

The number of PC gamers with rigs that completely outclass a PS4, right now, is already huge, especially when compared to the number of PS4 owners (0) and it will only grow over time.

Crypt_mx

Yeah, a multiplayer fee is certainly not something you want in "this economy."

[QUOTE="NameIess_One"][QUOTE="BeardMaster"]

 

If i had to venture i guess i would imagine its a fairly accurate categorization for the folks generating a superiority complex based on something as trivial as video game hardware.

 

Obviously im not generalizing an entire userbase, just those that derrive self worth from their video game hardware. Probably lacking in other sources of self esteem, using video game hardware as a last resort.

Lumpy311

Pretty sure 99% of people on the interenet don't act like this in real life.

im a tad bit more brazen online. but like to believe im generally consistent ideologically. Ive certainly never had anyone espouse any level of corporate ass licking on my day to day, that i experience here.