Console games win in the end

Why? Because of optimization. Sure games look better on a PC if you have the specs but a console game, more likely an exclusive, is tailored to that specific hardware. All the code needed for system compatibility can be taken out and code is optimized for a more fluid and efficient gaming experience. You'll never know how well a game runs on you're PC until you buy it or if you're lucky you can demo it. Then you have the chance of needing to purchase additional or replacement hardware just to run it.

PC gaming is dieing, that's why consoles win

I actually always know how well a game will run on my computer before buying it. I don't even have to ask people. I just know because I'm not an idiot.

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

Espada12

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

Zero_epyon

Same scenario.

Say you're a console gamer and you want to play Crysis. What do you do?

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

Zero_epyon

Look at the back of the box for the ATI equivelant of the card needed...

I won't find anything like Black Shark on consoles, so they can't win for me :)

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

treedoor

Same scenario.

Say you're a console gamer and you want to play Crysis. What do you do?

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

Zero_epyon

You have to ask yourself just how badly you want to play Crysis, considering if you''ve got an old video card that the rest of your setup is probably out of date too. Do you want to spend money on hardware for a game or not? Not unlike consoles, really. If I really wanted to play Uncharted 2, I'd have to ask myself if I wanted to spend the money opn hardware to play it.

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

svetzenlether

You have to ask yourself just how badly you want to play Crysis, considering if you''ve got an old video card that the rest of your setup is probably out of date too. Do you want to spend money on hardware for a game or not? Not unlike consoles, really. If I really wanted to play Uncharted 2, I'd have to ask myself if I wanted to spend the money opn hardware to play it.

I actually always know how well a game will run on my computer before buying it. I don't even have to ask people. I just know because I'm not an idiot.

treedoor

I won't find anything like Black Shark on consoles, so they can't win for me :)

AdrianWerner

I was thinking of getting Black Shark, but this vid pushed me over the edge. Can't wait to try it out.

I like console gaming more than PC gaming, but that doesn't mean that PC gaming doesn't have its place. As far as RTS, adventure, and FPS's are concerned, I'd probably go PC if I had the specs. But I prefer fighting games, action games, and more other types on the consoles for other reasons.

I guess I just don't like the idea of shelling out thousands of dollars to play a game. In the case of Diablo 3 however, it looks like I'll have to do just that. Diablo 3 ain't coming to consoles. And I have no problem with that.

I do most of my gaming on consoles because I know that every game I play will work without fail 100% of the time. My computer is older and thus, I'll have to either upgrade the crap out of it or just start fresh.

Consoles have their markets just as well as PC's. I guess I'm happy that more dev's are grasping the power of consoles over PC, but I understand that PC gaming isn't dead yet, and with the almost endless customizations you can do on PC's, games have a healthy environment on it as well.

PC gaming isn't dead yet. With computers being in basically every persons house in the US at least, the chances of it going away are slim.

PS3 games win in the end...:)

I like console gaming more than PC gaming, but that doesn't mean that PC gaming doesn't have its place. As far as RTS, adventure, and FPS's are concerned, I'd probably go PC if I had the specs. But I prefer fighting games, action games, and more other types on the consoles for other reasons.

I guess I just don't like the idea of shelling out thousands of dollars to play a game. In the case of Diablo 3 however, it looks like I'll have to do just that. Diablo 3 ain't coming to consoles. And I have no problem with that.

I do most of my gaming on consoles because I know that every game I play will work without fail 100% of the time. My computer is older and thus, I'll have to either upgrade the crap out of it or just start fresh.

Consoles have their markets just as well as PC's. I guess I'm happy that more dev's are grasping the power of consoles over PC, but I understand that PC gaming isn't dead yet, and with the almost endless customizations you can do on PC's, games have a healthy environment on it as well.

PC gaming isn't dead yet. With computers being in basically every persons house in the US at least, the chances of it going away are slim.

starfox15

I won't find anything like Black Shark on consoles, so they can't win for me :)

AdrianWerner

Bah, everyone knows those gauges are just stickers, i'd rather play ace combat IMO

I like console gaming more than PC gaming, but that doesn't mean that PC gaming doesn't have its place. As far as RTS, adventure, and FPS's are concerned, I'd probably go PC if I had the specs. But I prefer fighting games, action games, and more other types on the consoles for other reasons.

I guess I just don't like the idea of shelling out thousands of dollars to play a game. In the case of Diablo 3 however, it looks like I'll have to do just that. Diablo 3 ain't coming to consoles. And I have no problem with that.

I do most of my gaming on consoles because I know that every game I play will work without fail 100% of the time. My computer is older and thus, I'll have to either upgrade the crap out of it or just start fresh.

Consoles have their markets just as well as PC's. I guess I'm happy that more dev's are grasping the power of consoles over PC, but I understand that PC gaming isn't dead yet, and with the almost endless customizations you can do on PC's, games have a healthy environment on it as well.

PC gaming isn't dead yet. With computers being in basically every persons house in the US at least, the chances of it going away are slim.

starfox15

Thanks. I don't think PC gaming should die. I agree that RTS games shouldn't be played on consoles. Adventure and FPS can be on both imo. But I don't think it's worth upgrading your computer just to pay a new game. Even recommended specs don't always run the game smooth.Zero_epyon

Honestly there isn't a single game this gen you cannot play if your rig can play crysis at the settings you stated and there probably isn't going to be one but project offset(and I mean in terms of you maxing it) but you will still be able to play it at a setting way above what consoles can do. I understand you don't like the few hassles that come with PC gaming, but hardware pushing titles are basically non existant these days on PC.

PC gaming is dieing, that's why consoles win

WINDWAKER1

A special thanks to Hannah Montana: The Movie (PC game) for it's contribution to the death of PC gaming.

PS3 games win in the end...:)

jakehouston88

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]Thanks. I don't think PC gaming should die. I agree that RTS games shouldn't be played on consoles. Adventure and FPS can be on both imo. But I don't think it's worth upgrading your computer just to pay a new game. Even recommended specs don't always run the game smooth.Espada12

Honestly there isn't a single game this gen you cannot play if your rig can play crysis at the settings you stated and there probably isn't going to be one but project offset(and I mean in terms of you maxing it) but you will still be able to play it at a setting way above what consoles can do. I understand you don't like the few hassles that come with PC gaming, but hardware pushing titles are basically non existant these days on PC.

I don't like console games, no matter how optimized they are. Sure, I'd love a gaming machine that was cheap and very easy to use. Too bad such machines do not have any games that interest me. Plus I simply CAN'T play games on a controller. They don't win for me.

You made PC gaming sound WAY more complicated than it actually is. If you really have that hard a time with your PC go buy a Mac or something.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I won't find anything like Black Shark on consoles, so they can't win for me :)

WINDWAKER1

Bah, everyone knows those gauges are just stickers, i'd rather play ace combat IMO

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]Thanks. I don't think PC gaming should die. I agree that RTS games shouldn't be played on consoles. Adventure and FPS can be on both imo. But I don't think it's worth upgrading your computer just to pay a new game. Even recommended specs don't always run the game smooth.Zero_epyon

Honestly there isn't a single game this gen you cannot play if your rig can play crysis at the settings you stated and there probably isn't going to be one but project offset(and I mean in terms of you maxing it) but you will still be able to play it at a setting way above what consoles can do. I understand you don't like the few hassles that come with PC gaming, but hardware pushing titles are basically non existant these days on PC.

Crysis 2 with the improvements to the engine is going to be much more optimised than crysis 1, so you could probably max that out as well. Either way it doesn't make the game unplayable for you not to max it and it will still look better than anything on consoles.

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I won't find anything like Black Shark on consoles, so they can't win for me :)

AdrianWerner

Bah, everyone knows those gauges are just stickers, i'd rather play ace combat IMO

Ace combat got an 8.5, yeah that's what i thought

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

Bah, everyone knows those gauges are just stickers, i'd rather play ace combat IMO

WINDWAKER1

Ace combat got an 8.5, yeah that's what i thought

Why? Because of optimization. Sure games look better on a PC if you have the specs but a console game, more likely an exclusive, is tailored to that specific hardware. All the code needed for system compatibility can be taken out and code is optimized for a more fluid and efficient gaming experience. You'll never know how well a game runs on you're PC until you buy it or if you're lucky you can demo it. Then you have the chance of needing to purchase additional or replacement hardware just to run it.

Zero_epyon

Besides the rest of your post that is highly misinformed. Enjoy your lesser framerates that some how grant you more fluidness.

Why? Because of optimization. Sure games look better on a PC if you have the specs but a console game, more likely an exclusive, is tailored to that specific hardware. All the code needed for system compatibility can be taken out and code is optimized for a more fluid and efficient gaming experience. You'll never know how well a game runs on you're PC until you buy it or if you're lucky you can demo it. Then you have the chance of needing to purchase additional or replacement hardware just to run it.

Zero_epyon

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

Bah, everyone knows those gauges are just stickers, i'd rather play ace combat IMO

WINDWAKER1

Ace combat got an 8.5, yeah that's what i thought

:roll:

I don't know why you would compare games from diffrent genres (arcade shooter like AC to a sim) and expect it to make any sense

The day PC games die is the day you guys lose all hope of getting good consoles. Who do you think develops high end CPUs and Graphics chips .... MS and Sony ????? ROFL (not including the cell). Nvid/ATI/AMD/intel .... without an aggressive gaming market for them to develop for on the PC platform you guys are gonna have to run on net book quality stuff someday. Have fun with your intel accelerated Xbox 9000....ColdfireTrilogy

This

[QUOTE="ColdfireTrilogy"]The day PC games die is the day you guys lose all hope of getting good consoles. Who do you think develops high end CPUs and Graphics chips .... MS and Sony ????? ROFL (not including the cell). Nvid/ATI/AMD/intel .... without an aggressive gaming market for them to develop for on the PC platform you guys are gonna have to run on net book quality stuff someday. Have fun with your intel accelerated Xbox 9000....duxter1

This

If PC gaming dies why would those companies stop working if apparently they affect the consoles too. They'd just focus more on consoles i guess.

[QUOTE="duxter1"]

[QUOTE="ColdfireTrilogy"]The day PC games die is the day you guys lose all hope of getting good consoles. Who do you think develops high end CPUs and Graphics chips .... MS and Sony ????? ROFL (not including the cell). Nvid/ATI/AMD/intel .... without an aggressive gaming market for them to develop for on the PC platform you guys are gonna have to run on net book quality stuff someday. Have fun with your intel accelerated Xbox 9000....WINDWAKER1

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If PC gaming dies why would those companies stop working if apparently they affect the consoles too. They'd just focus more on consoles i guess.

Death of PCgaming would cripple console gaming forever, both hardware and software wise

PC gaming is dieing, that's why consoles win

WINDWAKER1

[QUOTE="svetzenlether"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Ok but let's say it's a game like crysys which plays better on nvidia cards and you have an old ATI card. And you really want to play crysis. What do you do?Zero_epyon

You have to ask yourself just how badly you want to play Crysis, considering if you''ve got an old video card that the rest of your setup is probably out of date too. Do you want to spend money on hardware for a game or not? Not unlike consoles, really. If I really wanted to play Uncharted 2, I'd have to ask myself if I wanted to spend the money opn hardware to play it.

There's holes in your logic, TC. For example, if a game can't run with "max settings" on a console(inFamous-720p, no AA), you're stuck with it like that. At least with the PC you can fix that. On top of that, all games on PC have the potential to run at 1080p+ and have 16xAA, whereas 720p isn't even standard for consoles.

P.S. there's usually and "optimize" button for PC games so you'll automatically get the best config for your fig. Devs also release minimum requirements/benchmarks so you know if your PC can run it before hand...

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

PC gaming is dieing, that's why consoles win

explainnow

:P

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"] Ok but let's say it's a game like crysys which plays better on nvidia cards and you have an old ATI card. And you really want to play crysis. What do you do?Zero_epyon

Same scenario.

Say you're a console gamer and you want to play Crysis. What do you do?

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

Same scenario.

Say you're a console gamer and you want to play Crysis. What do you do?

JangoWuzHere

The day PC games die is the day you guys lose all hope of getting good consoles. Who do you think develops high end CPUs and Graphics chips .... MS and Sony ????? ROFL (not including the cell). Nvid/ATI/AMD/intel .... without an aggressive gaming market for them to develop for on the PC platform you guys are gonna have to run on net book quality stuff someday. Have fun with your intel accelerated Xbox 9000....ColdfireTrilogy

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

Or you can look at the back of the box and see these two tabs with helpful information.

*Minimum Requirements* and *Recommended Requirements*

svetzenlether

You have to ask yourself just how badly you want to play Crysis, considering if you''ve got an old video card that the rest of your setup is probably out of date too. Do you want to spend money on hardware for a game or not? Not unlike consoles, really. If I really wanted to play Uncharted 2, I'd have to ask myself if I wanted to spend the money opn hardware to play it.

off topic, but dude

canucks own

I actually always know how well a game will run on my computer before buying it. I don't even have to ask people. I just know because I'm not an idiot.

treedoor

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

I actually always know how well a game will run on my computer before buying it. I don't even have to ask people. I just know because I'm not an idiot.

ManicAce

Why? Because of optimization. Sure games look better on a PC if you have the specs but a console game, more likely an exclusive, is tailored to that specific hardware. All the code needed for system compatibility can be taken out and code is optimized for a more fluid and efficient gaming experience. You'll never know how well a game runs on you're PC until you buy it or if you're lucky you can demo it. Then you have the chance of needing to purchase additional or replacement hardware just to run it.

Zero_epyon

thats why the console version of mass effect runs better than the pc version.. o wait:|:D

Why? Because of optimization. Sure games look better on a PC if you have the specs but a console game, more likely an exclusive, is tailored to that specific hardware. All the code needed for system compatibility can be taken out and code is optimized for a more fluid and efficient gaming experience. You'll never know how well a game runs on you're PC until you buy it or if you're lucky you can demo it. Then you have the chance of needing to purchase additional or replacement hardware just to run it.

Zero_epyon