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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"]
[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"]Oh and yea....if you wanna play the latest games you need to change your Video card at least 8-9months......and how much are they??? 599-699 right?? Right!!! So a PC is kind of expensive after a while. Always needs to be upgraded. a Console is for people who doesn't want to deal with that. But I too will upgrade my PC before Crysis arives...:) unless it comes out on the PS3 wich is not impossibleHunAndras1984

Are you clueless about hardware? Oh yea you are clueless...
If a $900 PC outperforms the console now it will always outperform it...
You upgrade that frequently only if youre clueless about what youre doing or a finished graphics wh***re...

Am I?? GeForce 8800

So your telling me that a videocard that you got like 7months ago will perfectly run Crysis??

that one will run Crysis easily.

And that's what want....run Crysis easily! always wanted to run my PC games on the max...that's why I spend a fortune on the PC's all the time.

you do realize that buying Computer parts from Best buy is the stupidest thing you can do right......That card costs $200 less on Newegg...

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#52 True_Gamer_

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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
The_Game21x

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

$100mil per month shutter any argument you may had...

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#53 HunAndras1984

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Am I?? GeForce 8800
So your telling me that a videocard that you got like 7months ago will perfectly run Crysis??
Hewkii

perfectly. and so will this.

What's the RAM req. on Crysis anyone know?? I have 1gig DDR 266mhz.

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#54 DementedDragon

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They need to get real, the only way consoles gaming will cease is if everyone stops playing them; and that's never going to happen. I'm pretty sure console gamers hold the majority in sales for the gaming community.

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#55 foxhound_fox

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What's the RAM req. on Crysis anyone know?? I have 1gig DDR 266mhz.HunAndras1984

http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/

Min: 768 MB on XP/1GB on Vista
Rec: 1.5GB+

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#56 HunAndras1984

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[QUOTE="HunAndras1984"]What's the RAM req. on Crysis anyone know?? I have 1gig DDR 266mhz.foxhound_fox

http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/

Min: 768 MB on XP/1GB on Vista
Rec: 1.5GB+

Than I need to upgrade that to......another $100

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[QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
The_Game21x

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

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#58 The_Game21x

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
True_Gamer_

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

$100mil per month shutter any argument you may had...

And yet, based on yearly sales, Console gaming is still ahead...that's odd...

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#59 baddog121390

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="HunAndras1984"]What's the RAM req. on Crysis anyone know?? I have 1gig DDR 266mhz.HunAndras1984

http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requirements/

Min: 768 MB on XP/1GB on Vista
Rec: 1.5GB+

Than I need to upgrade that to......another $100

You don't need too. I've never played any of my games on max settings when they first came out. Crysis will have much more to make up for the few settings you'll slide down. Such as Power Struggle, an amazing single-player campaign that can be played many different ways, and an engaging story that will span into a trilogy.

I can play F.E.A.R on low settings and still have a blast with the fantastic AI and exilerating multiplayer. Graphics on the PC are just the icing on the cake. And you don't always need ICING!

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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
The_Game21x

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

$100mil per month shutter any argument you may had...

And yet, based on yearly sales, Console gaming is still ahead...that's odd...

Most console games don't have the lifespan of a PC game. There are millions of counter-strike, dod, unreal, and BF players, and those games came out years ago,. So we should dismiss a platform because a lot of people choose to play older games, than running out to the store to play every single new release? Second, I buy all my PC games online, which aren't counted by the NPD. Also, the NPD is the US only, doesn't include Europe and the rest of the world, which is much more PC centric than here in the states.

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#61 The_Game21x

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
mismajor99

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

Prove it.

I have sales data, which shows that PC sales are far behind console sales. You can view that, here You say the NPD does a horrible job at calculating PC game sales, well, get some proof from another source.

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#62 foxhound_fox

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You don't need too. I've never played any of my games on max settings when they first came out. Crysis will have much more to make up for the few settings you'll slide down. Such as Power Struggle, an amazing single-player campaign that can be played many different ways, and an engaging story that will span into a trilogy.
I can play F.E.A.R on low settings and still have a blast with the fantastic AI and exilerating multiplayer. Graphics on the PC are just the icing on the cake. And you don't always need ICING!
baddog121390

You are telling me. I put over 200 hours into Oblivion on low-medium.

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I must disagree, and say that this man seems very ... frightened almost. Sure the PC is perhaps still the best platform for many developers to make games on, and sure to some people it may be the best thing out over consoles. However, you can never win the main consumers, and even some "hardcore" console gamers with the complications that come with PC gaming. Console game is very easy for anyone to just go to their store, buy the game for their system, pop the disc in and play. With PC you have to worry if your PC can even run the game. If not, and you're not very computer savvy I must say that going to buy extra RAM or memory or what not for your PC to play the game will become a complicated and difficult task that the main "casual" gamer may give up. Also, with games starting to appeal to a much more wider audience on consoles, how can one say that "console gaming will die." :question: The PC has many games that are mostly the shooter, RTS, adventure, and a few other occasional multi plat genres of consoles. However... consoles and handhelds too have games that are very easy for the casual market. Sure you can hop on the web and play some free games of Tetris or other small puzzle games. However, there's still a lack of definitibve icons that attract the market and can be associated with a console. Games like Mario, Wii Sports, and yet games that are on them don't seem to be as their console brethren in terms of sales. Halo or GTA I know sell more on the console than the PC. Why? I think the PC accessibility is not so easy for many, and they just want the game they can play with friends and with consoles, you can all share that moment of Halo in 4 player split screen or XBL connection very easily. PCs aren't bad, but they are just way to difficult for the main stream, and I still don't think that will change anytime soon, even if they can still make a very accessible PC for minimum req on some games... because it's just the "fear" the casuals have in the PC market. I don't think that the ideology will change very soon... or at all...

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[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
The_Game21x

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

Prove it.

I have sales data, which shows that PC sales are far behind console sales. You can view that, here You say the NPD does a horrible job at calculating PC game sales, well, get some proof from another source.

Read right inside the annual sales report. I know you can read, you are reading this!! This is pretty well known in the industry. PC sales do not include the following, MMO fees, Online Transactions(Including Digital Distribution), and are U.S. based only. They only count retail brick and mortar stores in the US, which heavily favor all console platforms, but many PC gamers purchase their games online or use services like Steam, D2D, and Gametap. I do and so do my other PC gaming buddies. You are grossly misleading yourself is you take the NPD as gospel, as they do a terrible job at calculating PC sales.

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[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
The_Game21x

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

Prove it.

I have sales data, which shows that PC sales are far behind console sales. You can view that, here You say the NPD does a horrible job at calculating PC game sales, well, get some proof from another source.

right here, NPD numbers did not include online sales up to a certain point. http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=12777

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#66 Vandalvideo

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]I must disagree, and say that this man seems very ... frightened almost. Sure the PC is perhaps still the best platform for many developers to make games on, and sure to some people it may be the best thing out over consoles. However, you can never win the main consumers, and even some "hardcore" console gamers with the complications that come with PC gaming. Console game is very easy for anyone to just go to their store, buy the game for their system, pop the disc in and play. With PC you have to worry if your PC can even run the game. If not, and you're not very computer savvy I must say that going to buy extra RAM or memory or what not for your PC to play the game will become a complicated and difficult task that the main "casual" gamer may give up. Also, with games starting to appeal to a much more wider audience on consoles, how can one say that "console gaming will die." :question: The PC has many games that are mostly the shooter, RTS, adventure, and a few other occasional multi plat genres of consoles. However... consoles and handhelds too have games that are very easy for the casual market. Sure you can hop on the web and play some free games of Tetris or other small puzzle games. However, there's still a lack of definitibve icons that attract the market and can be associated with a console. Games like Mario, Wii Sports, and yet games that are on them don't seem to be as their console brethren in terms of sales. Halo or GTA I know sell more on the console than the PC. Why? I think the PC accessibility is not so easy for many, and they just want the game they can play with friends and with consoles, you can all share that moment of Halo in 4 player split screen or XBL connection very easily. PCs aren't bad, but they are just way to difficult for the main stream, and I still don't think that will change anytime soon, even if they can still make a very accessible PC for minimum req on some games... because it's just the "fear" the casuals have in the PC market. I don't think that the ideology will change very soon... or at all...

PC gaming is only as complicated as one makes it. If you so wished it, there are PCs as easily to use and just as accesible as consoles that almost never break down and have automated trouble shooting software. If you want a more complex machine, then that option is also available. The PC isn't restricted by what it can do, its restricted by the moron behind the wheel.

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#67 True_Gamer_

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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
The_Game21x

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

$100mil per month shutter any argument you may had...

And yet, based on yearly sales, Console gaming is still ahead...that's odd...

WoW has made more money than all the console best sellers combined... The games has been out for 30 months...do the math...

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[QUOTE="yoshi_64"]I must disagree, and say that this man seems very ... frightened almost. Sure the PC is perhaps still the best platform for many developers to make games on, and sure to some people it may be the best thing out over consoles. However, you can never win the main consumers, and even some "hardcore" console gamers with the complications that come with PC gaming. Console game is very easy for anyone to just go to their store, buy the game for their system, pop the disc in and play. With PC you have to worry if your PC can even run the game. If not, and you're not very computer savvy I must say that going to buy extra RAM or memory or what not for your PC to play the game will become a complicated and difficult task that the main "casual" gamer may give up. Also, with games starting to appeal to a much more wider audience on consoles, how can one say that "console gaming will die." :question: The PC has many games that are mostly the shooter, RTS, adventure, and a few other occasional multi plat genres of consoles. However... consoles and handhelds too have games that are very easy for the casual market. Sure you can hop on the web and play some free games of Tetris or other small puzzle games. However, there's still a lack of definitibve icons that attract the market and can be associated with a console. Games like Mario, Wii Sports, and yet games that are on them don't seem to be as their console brethren in terms of sales. Halo or GTA I know sell more on the console than the PC. Why? I think the PC accessibility is not so easy for many, and they just want the game they can play with friends and with consoles, you can all share that moment of Halo in 4 player split screen or XBL connection very easily. PCs aren't bad, but they are just way to difficult for the main stream, and I still don't think that will change anytime soon, even if they can still make a very accessible PC for minimum req on some games... because it's just the "fear" the casuals have in the PC market. I don't think that the ideology will change very soon... or at all...

Well, hopefully the population of the world gets a bit smarter, because we are all doomed if ram installation is the cause of the world's downfall. There are far more people using the PC for casual gaming than there are using consoles. Solitaire? Mine Sweep? Anyone?

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] PC gaming is only as complicated as one makes it. If you so wished it, there are PCs as easily to use and just as accesible as consoles that almost never break down and have automated trouble shooting software. If you want a more complex machine, then that option is also available. The PC isn't restricted by what it can do, its restricted by the moron behind the wheel.

True, but I think to some the mentality people carry with PC gaming is that it's always a high end platform for hig specs and outstanding looking games in the technical department, and when they see those games and the box and the graphics on it, and their current 3 year old PC may only run it on low-medium or something it can be a turn off. Also I think it's that mentality that equates to the idea that PC gaming has to be this way so it's very expensive, so it's not worth it. Whatever it may be I guess, it's just PC gaming has a mentality to many I believe... that it's very difficult. That mentality hurts the market, and the constant releases of a new GPU or their PC being outdated in 2 years is just not helping. Though I beleive personally technology should always advance so I don't think that's bad, but there's not many who think that way it seems.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
cobrax25

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

Prove it.

I have sales data, which shows that PC sales are far behind console sales. You can view that, here You say the NPD does a horrible job at calculating PC game sales, well, get some proof from another source.

right here, NPD numbers did not include online sales up to a certain point. http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=12777

Good read, although they still haven't fulfilled their promise. Strange enough, they still haven't put it into their total tally for the NPD 2006 report, unless they are still tallying. It's also funny that people want to lump the PS2, Xbox, PS3, Wii, Gamecube all against one platform, the PC. Why don't we single out the Xbox 360, and compare to everyone else? It doesn't make any sense at all. Each is a separate platform, to each in itself. PC Game sales totaled around 1 billion(minus online, e-tail, MMO, and non-US sales), while all the console systems bound together totaled 4.8 billion(games only). So, divide 5 billion by the number of consoles (even though the PS2 probably has the majority of that), that's about 5 systems in that total software number. Not so impressive anymore.

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[QUOTE="cobrax25"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
mismajor99

world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

Prove it.

I have sales data, which shows that PC sales are far behind console sales. You can view that, here You say the NPD does a horrible job at calculating PC game sales, well, get some proof from another source.

right here, NPD numbers did not include online sales up to a certain point. http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=12777

Good read, although they still haven't fulfilled their promise. Strange enough, they still haven't put it into their total tally for the NPD 2006 report, unless they are still tallying. It's also funny that people want to lump the PS2, Xbox, PS3, Wii, Gamecube all against one platform, the PC. Why don't we single out the Xbox 360, and compare to everyone else? It doesn't make any sense at all. Each is a separate platform, to each in itself. PC Game sales totaled around 1 billion(minus online, e-tail, MMO, and non-US sales), while all the console systems bound together totaled 4.8 billion(games only). So, divide 5 billion by the number of consoles (even though the PS2 probably has the majority of that), that's about 5 systems in that total software number. Not so impressive anymore.

theirs also one more thing to consider, the fact that the amount is listed in $'s. Means that, thats not factoring the fact that the average console game costs more then the average PC game.

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Gears for PC never heard tha yet. Link?

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[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
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world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

Prove it.

I have sales data, which shows that PC sales are far behind console sales. You can view that, here You say the NPD does a horrible job at calculating PC game sales, well, get some proof from another source.

You do know that the NPD doesn't count subscription based games (like WoW) and digitial downloaded games, which make up a HUGE portion..........

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#74 downPlayDemon

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HAHAHAHAHAHA maybe if the world ent int andother World war and japan europe and america were split. Then the engineers for games were forced to make bombs. But how many PC games do you see in the top of the NPD charts? PC has a seperate chart in order to not get owned by consoles on a monthly basis. PC gaming will die well before console gaming.

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#75 GermanShepard06

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Correct. It's why Epic just recently spoke out about how PC gaming is not what it once was and it's also why Gears of War is exclusive to a console despite Epic starting out on the PC.Hewkii

EPIC also confirmed that gears would be coming to the PC.

geow on pc will bring the real deal when they drop a 32 and 64 player online modes.

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HAHAHAHAHAHA maybe if the world ent int andother World war and japan europe and america were split. Then the engineers for games were forced to make bombs. But how many PC games do you see in the top of the NPD charts? PC has a seperate chart in order to not get owned by consoles on a monthly basis. PC gaming will die well before console gaming.downPlayDemon

WoW..........

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Gears for PC never heard tha yet. Link?MOM-D

their were several rumors going around after PC gamer, antecedently leaked several screenshots. And then Epic pretty much guaranteed it. http://pc.ign.com/articles/765/765204p1.html

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Gears for PC never heard tha yet. Link?MOM-D

Gears of War a Lock for PC

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PC gaming is cool but not very practical at all. Consoles are userfriendly and convinient, which is why I and many other customers will always prefer them.

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[QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"][QUOTE="Hammerofjustice"][QUOTE="The_Game21x"]
Considering Console gaming is steadily increasing in sales and the PC isn't anywhere near matching console sales (in total, not just one console) I have to call BS on this.
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world of warcraft disagrees with your post. and poops all over it for that matter.

Wrong. World of Warcraft has, what, 8 million subscribers? And that's being generous. Now let's compare that to the tens (possibly hundreds) of millions of people who invest in console gaming. All of a sudden, WOW is very insignificant.

Plus theres a ton of sales data that supports my argument. Don't make me get it and own you up and down the street. :|

Why are you comparing three systems against one? The only system that holds any water against the PC player base is the PS2, the 360 has about 10 million+ users, the PS3 is around 3 million plus users, and the Wii is somewhere around 6 million, but I could be off a little. Anyway, there is an estimated 200 million PC Gamers, so don't go around acting all high and mighty. And don't be throwing NPD garbage around either, as they do a horrible job at calculating PC Game sales. If you compare the PC against each and every other gaming system individually, the PC wins in shear numbers. This is of course counting the number of people around the world, not just here in the States. But, if you count the next-gen systems all together, against one the PC platform, the PC still wins. Funny, isn't it?

Prove it.

I have sales data, which shows that PC sales are far behind console sales. You can view that, here You say the NPD does a horrible job at calculating PC game sales, well, get some proof from another source.

right here, NPD numbers did not include online sales up to a certain point. http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=12777

It's also in either Games for Windows Magazine or PC Gamer from the last two months. Half-Life 2 has sold a truckload of copies since 2004 over Steam, ditto for CS: Source and HL2: Episode 1. Not even taking into account all of the other games Steam has carried, NPD hadn't contacted Valve once about their Steam sales since release. Ditto for online e-tailers like Amazon, GoGamer, Fry's.com, even places like Newegg that techy people love so much - as far as the NPD data is concerned, those sales simply didn't exist. Direct2Drive doesn't exist, and neither does EA Link or the online-download versions of games like Galactic Civilizations 2 when it comes to the sales numbers published. As far as the 8800GTS linked at Best Buy... do I buy it there for $500 or buy an eVGA with lifetime warranty from Newegg for $360... gah, decisions decisions.. hahah

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HAHAHAHAHAHA maybe if the world ent int andother World war and japan europe and america were split. Then the engineers for games were forced to make bombs. But how many PC games do you see in the top of the NPD charts? PC has a seperate chart in order to not get owned by consoles on a monthly basis. PC gaming will die well before console gaming.downPlayDemon

If only the sales charts would include the methods in which most PC Gamers use to purchase their software. The day PC Gaming dies, is the day Console gaming is long been dead. If you make, test, and develop console games on the PC, it will always make sense to deliver on the PC platform. Until your Wii, 360, or PS3 can make games on their own, you're spitting into the wind.

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HP talks games? LOL

The whole PC-versus-console scene hasn't changed much in the past 10 years and it won't change much in the next 10 years whatever they tell you.

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Console gaming is finished..........Hahahaha

Keep dreaming HP guy. I know all these sales and Halo 2 breaking records when it released that would rival and beat 99% of all movie releases...Yeah we should really really be worried.

PC can do more then what a console can and has had that title and abiity since forever...so shouldn't consoles be dead many years ago?

Consoles dying and the end of consoles.. um yeah

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yea right. who would rather play a computer game on a 23" monitor than on a 42" HDTV? Fact is neither is dying.

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I rather play PC games than any other but my computer sucks so that won't happen.

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#86 baddog121390

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yea right. who would rather play a computer game on a 23" monitor than on a 42" HDTV? Fact is neither is dying.tazzydnc

Many people would?

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#87 imprezawrx500

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[QUOTE="the-very-best"]Correct. It's why Epic just recently spoke out about how PC gaming is not what it once was and it's also why Gears of War is exclusive to a console despite Epic starting out on the PC.baddog121390

Actually, Epic and id Software aren't what they used to be. PC is fine if not better than ever.

so true, doom 3 had nothing on farcry and crysis will own id and epic this year

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#88 imprezawrx500

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PCs will never do to casuals what consoles do. Do you think any of the casuals will ever spend more the $1000 on a gaming machine?Bansheesdie

with amd working on a all in one cpu/gpu you average pc in 5-10 years time may well have a powerful gpu

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#89 imprezawrx500

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Oh and yea....if you wanna play the latest games you need to change your Video card at least 8-9months......and how much are they??? 599-699 right?? Right!!! So a PC is kind of expensive after a while. Always needs to be upgraded. a Console is for people who doesn't want to deal with that. But I too will upgrade my PC before Crysis arives...:) unless it comes out on the PS3 wich is not impossibleHunAndras1984

what can't you consoel fans understand you don't have to upgrade? upgrading more than every year - 2 years is nothing but over kill. a good pc now will run games in 2011 better than x360, and what about the x360 upgrades?

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#90 imprezawrx500

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[QUOTE="HunAndras1984"]Oh and yea....if you wanna play the latest games you need to change your Video card at least 8-9months......and how much are they??? 599-699 right?? Right!!! So a PC is kind of expensive after a while. Always needs to be upgraded. a Console is for people who doesn't want to deal with that. But I too will upgrade my PC before Crysis arives...:) unless it comes out on the PS3 wich is not impossibleTrue_Gamer_

Are you clueless about hardware? Oh yea you are clueless... If a $900 PC outperforms the console now it will always outperform it... You upgrade that frequently only if youre clueless about what youre doing or a finished graphics wh***re...

so true but nomater how many tiimes you say it console fans wil stil say it has to be upgraded. console are lossing the advantages they used to have. patches, donwloadable content, web browsers are all showing console are turning into upgradable pcs

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Lol wtf they are getting stronger if anything what a tool :|

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[QUOTE="lawsonboy"]
As long as high end gaming PC's cost 2, 3, and sometimes 4 times what a console costs and the games are not looking even twice as good as the best console games out, console games will never die.
And don't forget that right now that the capabilities of hardware far exceeds the capabilities of developers to utilize that power. I don't see that changing any time soon so it doesn't matter if there are DX 10 drives...its how many games take advantage of it. Right now...ONE...Crysis. Is that enough reason to pay $600 for that video card? I don't think so.
Consoles are here to stay for a while.
mismajor99

Excuse me buddy, but my PC cost under a grand and it runs my games with beautiful resolution, exceeding that of my 360. You don't need a 2000 dollar rig! Also, a PC is used for many other tasks than gaming, so you are paying for a whole lot more. Gaming on your rig is simply going to be just the cost of an updating your graphics card, as Vista is requiring companies to ship their PC's with much more power under the hood, ram and raw processing power to be more specific. DX10 is just the next advancement in interfacing video cards with your PC, it's just the beginning, and Crysis isn't the only game to look forward to. There is a huge list of titles that justify a purchase of a 150-300 dollar video card, as you don't need an 8800 to enjoy them.

your video card costs the same as the 360! you just owned yourself and you don't even know it. Your PC costs 2.5 what the 360 costs and like I said, the games might look better, but not 2.5 times better.

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You're basing this off of someone's "claim"? :lol:The moon is going to fall out of orbit and collide with earth tomorrow, or atleast thats what lilrush claims.

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#94 creativeminded

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Consoles are not going anyway thanks to the Wii.

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#95 KAS3Y_JAM3Z

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The war between the 360 and PS3 is going to be a dirty one. I am probably just keep my hands out of it.foxhound_fox

did you even read topic or the TC's post...?

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#96 X360PS3AMD05

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Not in the near future.

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I'm sick of everybody talking about how everyone unlike them is doomed. If someone is going to "die" in the upcoming years, whether guided by fact or speculation, I'm pretty sure we would know it was going on. As active members of the gaming community, it is our purpose to seek out this kind of information, but it is sad when people are only looking for the mere quote that somehow backs there opinion instead of objectively looking at all of the evidence. In short, don't always look for the positives because you may be left with little.

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This topic is just as ridiculous as "PC gaming is going to die."

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#99 True_Gamer_

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[QUOTE="mismajor99"][QUOTE="lawsonboy"]
As long as high end gaming PC's cost 2, 3, and sometimes 4 times what a console costs and the games are not looking even twice as good as the best console games out, console games will never die.
And don't forget that right now that the capabilities of hardware far exceeds the capabilities of developers to utilize that power. I don't see that changing any time soon so it doesn't matter if there are DX 10 drives...its how many games take advantage of it. Right now...ONE...Crysis. Is that enough reason to pay $600 for that video card? I don't think so.
Consoles are here to stay for a while.
lawsonboy

Excuse me buddy, but my PC cost under a grand and it runs my games with beautiful resolution, exceeding that of my 360. You don't need a 2000 dollar rig! Also, a PC is used for many other tasks than gaming, so you are paying for a whole lot more. Gaming on your rig is simply going to be just the cost of an updating your graphics card, as Vista is requiring companies to ship their PC's with much more power under the hood, ram and raw processing power to be more specific. DX10 is just the next advancement in interfacing video cards with your PC, it's just the beginning, and Crysis isn't the only game to look forward to. There is a huge list of titles that justify a purchase of a 150-300 dollar video card, as you don't need an 8800 to enjoy them.

your video card costs the same as the 360! you just owned yourself and you don't even know it. Your PC costs 2.5 what the 360 costs and like I said, the games might look better, but not 2.5 times better.

An X1950XT costs $250....Here in EU the console gaming is a decietful milking enterprise....PC games cost €30 while console games cost €60... Talk about ignorance...

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#100 joe_g_patton

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I don't like to see "HP" and "gaming" in the same sentence. If they are so big on gaming, why is the video hardware so crappy on their standard home pc's? Do they even have a line of gaming pc's? If you buy a sub-$1000(US) HP PC, you better get on new egg & throw a few hundred dollars into a good video card and probably some additional RAM if you want to play current gen PC games. HP is about as far away from competing with consoles for gaming as you can get.

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