Console gaming is so expensive

[QUOTE="00154"][QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

an imac wont last 2 mins as a gaming machine .

dontshackzmii

Yeah i do you cant upgrade them. Only mac you can is the mac pro witch is a work station .

Not a valid point i can still play games without the need to upgrade. if that was the point then every 6months you would need to upgrade your rig to play games which in the long run cost you more than a wii ps3 or 360

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

PC has a wide spectrum of hardware, so no price is set. You can make a fairly good PC for $400 or so, if you're on a minimal budget.

iliatay

$400 would not buy you a good gaming PC, not in Canada anyways. My bro made a PC and it cost him $700, so i'm just basing it off that. If you want to say it is $500 fine, than we could say the 360 is only $200, cause that is how much the arcade is. Then you could just buy a cheap 20 GB HDD off ebay for about $30. So it would still be$230 to $500 which isstill a pretty bigdifference.

Don't most already own a tv regardless if they have a console or not? :roll:

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Pc gaming is air tight there is Not one real thing consoles have over pc . Consoles are for people who cant even plug some thing in the tv without looking it up .

Hanass

Are you serious? If you're not bashing the PC for not having games, you're acting like a PC elitist. Is this your way of making them look bad?

Proof me wrong dont just go to personal attacks .

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

PC has a wide spectrum of hardware, so no price is set. You can make a fairly good PC for $400 or so, if you're on a minimal budget.

iliatay

$400 would not buy you a good gaming PC, not in Canada anyways. My bro made a PC and it cost him $700, so i'm just basing it off that. If you want to say it is $500 fine, than we could say the 360 is only $200, cause that is how much the arcade is. Then you could just buy a cheap 20 GB HDD off ebay for about $30. So it would still be$230 to $500 which isstill a pretty bigdifference.

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Most people already have TVs for one. Another thing is TVs are cheap now a days. You can get 32" HD tv for about $400. Why do hermits get so mad at when people over exaterate prices of PCs, yet you guys think TVs cost $1300?

Also you would need a monitor for CPU, or you could use your TV like I stated before.

As for Games, no one is forcing you to buy games on release days when they cost $60, only game I pay $60 for is NHL games, all the rest I wait til there atleast $30, which recently doesn't take to long.

by "good" do you mean a system made out of $ store plastic ? 400$ rig is a huge waste of money.

dontshackzmii

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP20 - OEM

APEX PC-389-C Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS M2A74-AM AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

GIGABYTE GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail

Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply - Retail

PNY OPTIMA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800 - Retail

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail

Total:$388.42

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="00154"] You got any proof on that?00154

Yeah i do you cant upgrade them. Only mac you can is the mac pro witch is a work station .

You might as well stick to console gaming. Main reason why pc pwns console in every way is that it can be upgraded .

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

PC has a wide spectrum of hardware, so no price is set. You can make a fairly good PC for $400 or so, if you're on a minimal budget.

iliatay

$400 would not buy you a good gaming PC, not in Canada anyways. My bro made a PC and it cost him $700, so i'm just basing it off that. If you want to say it is $500 fine, than we could say the 360 is only $200, cause that is how much the arcade is. Then you could just buy a cheap 20 GB HDD off ebay for about $30. So it would still be$230 to $500 which isstill a pretty bigdifference.

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Pc gaming is air tight there is Not one real thing consoles have over pc . Consoles are for people who cant even plug some thing in the tv without looking it up .

dontshackzmii

Are you serious? If you're not bashing the PC for not having games, you're acting like a PC elitist. Is this your way of making them look bad?

Proof me wrong dont just go to personal attacks .

I couldn't care less about "proofing" you wrong, I just know you don't mean a word you're saying and are just trying to make PC gamers look elitist.

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

PC has a wide spectrum of hardware, so no price is set. You can make a fairly good PC for $400 or so, if you're on a minimal budget.

$400 would not buy you a good gaming PC, not in Canada anyways. My bro made a PC and it cost him $700, so i'm just basing it off that. If you want to say it is $500 fine, than we could say the 360 is only $200, cause that is how much the arcade is. Then you could just buy a cheap 20 GB HDD off ebay for about $30. So it would still be$230 to $500 which isstill a pretty bigdifference.

If you live in Canada, you'd know that console games cost at least $30 more than PC games. $70 + %13 tax ($80 total) compared to $50 no tax on Steam. And that's right off the bat, on day-1 that the game is released, without counting the huge sales Steam has.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

A 360 costs $300.

A PC costs $700. You might even want to buy a monitor for your computer, so their is another $200, you can use your TV if you want but for me that would be a huge inconvience.

So it's $300 for a 360 or$900 for a PC, so yeah that makes the PC cheaper for sure.

RAGINGxPONY

PC has a wide spectrum of hardware, so no price is set. You can make a fairly good PC for $400 or so, if you're on a minimal budget.

$400 would not buy you a good gaming PC, not in Canada anyways. My bro made a PC and it cost him $700, so i'm just basing it off that. If you want to say it is $500 fine, than we could say the 360 is only $200, cause that is how much the arcade is. Then you could just buy a cheap 20 GB HDD off ebay for about $30. So it would still be$230 to $500 which isstill a pretty bigdifference.

Not in CAD, but in US you can. It would be an extremely budget rig, but it's possible.

I put one together for the TC for $400 without OS, as OS can be picked up free or very cheap (I got Windows 7 for $40 in Canada for a student deal), and if you need to buy it, it was $500.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

by "good" do you mean a system made out of $ store plastic ? 400$ rig is a huge waste of money.

lundy86_4

Total:$388.42

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

ew dvd that is the worst case i have ever seen so ugly 2gb ram that is nothing these days. plus only 2 cores and a weak amd one at that. that pc will be out of date by the time you put it together

[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="RAGINGxPONY"]

$400 would not buy you a good gaming PC, not in Canada anyways. My bro made a PC and it cost him $700, so i'm just basing it off that. If you want to say it is $500 fine, than we could say the 360 is only $200, cause that is how much the arcade is. Then you could just buy a cheap 20 GB HDD off ebay for about $30. So it would still be$230 to $500 which isstill a pretty bigdifference.

savagetwinkie

If you live in Canada, you'd know that console games cost at least $30 more than PC games. $70 + %13 tax ($80 total) compared to $50 no tax on Steam. And that's right off the bat, on day-1 that the game is released, without counting the huge sales Steam has.

I've bought a lot of games on Steam, yet I have no criminal record...

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

by "good" do you mean a system made out of $ store plastic ? 400$ rig is a huge waste of money.

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP20 - OEM

APEX PC-389-C Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS M2A74-AM AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

GIGABYTE GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail

Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply - Retail

PNY OPTIMA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800 - Retail

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail

Total:$388.42

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

PS3 = $350
High end PC = $2500
3 PS3 Controllers = $150
3 Extra PCs = $7500 (split screen cant be done on pc so each person requires 1 pc)

Ps3 Total = $500
PC Total = $10000

damn consoles are cheap

iliatay

WOW WTH IS THAT?

more like:

pc: $800

ps3: $350 + $1300 (tv) + $150 (3 controllers)

= $1800

^^ consoles cost alot especially because it only does one thing.

Are you saying that people shopping for a console DON'T already own a tv?

And my console does way more than one thing, and all very well

PS3 = $350
High end PC = $2500
3 PS3 Controllers = $150
3 Extra PCs = $7500 (split screen cant be done on pc so each person requires 1 pc)

Ps3 Total = $500
PC Total = $10000

damn consoles are cheap

sikanderahmed

My pc was about 800$ reusing the case, dvd drive, and power supply. So no. As for this thread, it's an obvious troll attempt.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

by "good" do you mean a system made out of $ store plastic ? 400$ rig is a huge waste of money.

dontshackzmii

Total:$388.42

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

ew dvd that is the worst case i have ever seen so ugly 2gb ram that is nothing these days. plus only 2 cores and a weak amd one at that. that pc will be out of date by the time you put it together

It will be out of date quicker than most PC's, but for a budget of $400 that's not surprising. I proved you wrong, so suck it up my friend.

2 cores is fine, I run everything max on my e8400, and 2gb ram is fine, espoecially with the release of Windows 7. Case is not too important, as those components will not give off as much heat as high-performance parts.

:lol: putting a happy face in front of your post won't make you any less serious. Come on now, don't claim that you were being sarcastic just because I mentioned your posting history.

Hanass

i wasnt being sarcastic but i do think you are taking this a bit too serious, its like you actually hate me or something just coz i think console > pc.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="Hanass"]

If you live in Canada, you'd know that console games cost at least $30 more than PC games. $70 + %13 tax ($80 total) compared to $50 no tax on Steam. And that's right off the bat, on day-1 that the game is released, without counting the huge sales Steam has.

I've bought a lot of games on Steam, yet I have no criminal record...

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

by "good" do you mean a system made out of $ store plastic ? 400$ rig is a huge waste of money.

savagetwinkie

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP20 - OEM

APEX PC-389-C Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS M2A74-AM AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

GIGABYTE GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail

Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply - Retail

PNY OPTIMA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800 - Retail

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail

Total:$388.42

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

Mhmmm. You don't necessarily need Windows, as if you have it, you can just trransfer it to the new PC. Or there are legal ways to pick it up for cheap or free (I got Windows 7 for $40, as i'm a student).

For $400 you're not gonna get a card that'll run everything, but I said it was possible, and it is.

Link to benchmarks

It performs quite well. Set too high, it runs Crysis, 1024x768 2xaa at 29FPS avg.

you should be happy i didnt bring up alienware costs 8)sikanderahmed

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Total:$388.42

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

ew dvd that is the worst case i have ever seen so ugly 2gb ram that is nothing these days. plus only 2 cores and a weak amd one at that. that pc will be out of date by the time you put it together

It will be out of date quicker than most PC's, but for a budget of $400 that's not surprising. I proved you wrong, so suck it up my friend.

2 cores is fine, I run everything max on my e8400, and 2gb ram is fine, espoecially with the release of Windows 7. Case is not too important, as those components will not give off as much heat as high-performance parts.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

by "good" do you mean a system made out of $ store plastic ? 400$ rig is a huge waste of money.

lundy86_4

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP20 - OEM

APEX PC-389-C Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS M2A74-AM AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

GIGABYTE GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail

Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply - Retail

PNY OPTIMA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800 - Retail

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail

Total:$388.42

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

wow even my laptop is more powerful then that. you cannot get HIGH END pc for $400

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]you should be happy i didnt bring up alienware costs 8)Vandalvideo

so is pc gaming lulz

wow even my laptop is more powerful then that. you cannot get HIGH END pc for $400

sikanderahmed

Nobody said you could :?

For $400 that PC will perform quite well.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

LG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black IDE Model GH22NP20 - OEM

APEX PC-389-C Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

ASUS M2A74-AM AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 740G Micro ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

GIGABYTE GV-R467ZL-1GI Radeon HD 4670 1GB 128-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail

Thermaltake TR2 W0388RU 600W ATX 12V v2.2 Power Supply - Retail

PNY OPTIMA 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model MD2048KD2-800 - Retail

AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX240OCGQBOX - Retail

Total:$388.42

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

Mhmmm. You don't necessarily need Windows, as if you have it, you can just trransfer it to the new PC. Or there are legal ways to pick it up for cheap or free (I got Windows 7 for $40, as i'm a student).

For $400 you're not gonna get a card that'll run everything, but I said it was possible, and it is.

Link to benchmarks

It performs quite well. Set too high, it runs Crysis, 1024x768 2xaa at 29FPS avg.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Total:$388.42

Total with Windows 7: 493.41

For $400 it's not half bad.

lundy86_4

ew dvd that is the worst case i have ever seen so ugly 2gb ram that is nothing these days. plus only 2 cores and a weak amd one at that. that pc will be out of date by the time you put it together

It will be out of date quicker than most PC's, but for a budget of $400 that's not surprising. I proved you wrong, so suck it up my friend.

2 cores is fine, I run everything max on my e8400, and 2gb ram is fine, espoecially with the release of Windows 7. Case is not too important, as those components will not give off as much heat as high-performance parts.

Thats not a good machine. You sir have lower standards if you think thats a good machine. Both the spec and the quailty stink

so is pc gaming lulzsikanderahmed

windows 7 is not happy with 2gb of ram, especially not for gaming, i've got an almost identicle setup and my 360 easily outperforms it, i'm waiting for my new vid card which should change things.savagetwinkie

I'm running Windows 7 right now on 2gb's whilst my 4gb sticks are in for a warranty exchange, it runs fine, and runs all games fine, which leads me to believe you do not know what you are saying.

Like I said the 4670 pushes Crysis on high at 1024x768, 2xaa at an avg 29 FPS. That is not bad for such a budget card.

Thats not a good machine. You sir have lower standards if you think thats a good machine. Both the spec and the quailty stink

dontshackzmii

For $400 that is a "good" PC. It's not good compared to higher priced PC's.

I have fine standards as I use an e8400 with 4870 and 4gb of ram. I was simply stating you can build a rig that can run a lot of games for $400. Which I proved.

What build quality do you expect for $400. Seems like you are trying everything to counter my point, which I proved, with factual evidence and benchmarks for the GPU. Sorry my friend, just leave it and move on.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

ew dvd that is the worst case i have ever seen so ugly 2gb ram that is nothing these days. plus only 2 cores and a weak amd one at that. that pc will be out of date by the time you put it together

dontshackzmii

It will be out of date quicker than most PC's, but for a budget of $400 that's not surprising. I proved you wrong, so suck it up my friend.

2 cores is fine, I run everything max on my e8400, and 2gb ram is fine, espoecially with the release of Windows 7. Case is not too important, as those components will not give off as much heat as high-performance parts.

Thats not a good machine. You sir have lower standards if you think thats a good machine. Both the spec and the quailty stink

Oh by the way with windows that machine is almost 100$ more then 400$ so no you didnt make a 400$ gaming rig. sadly if it does not have windows its NOT a gaming rig .

pc gaming is so expensive. to get the best experience you need the latest GPU which alone costs like 3x more then 360, not only that but the GPU will be outdated approximately 10 seconds after its release. ill just leave it there

I got windows 7 for free, 2 version of it because i'm a student also, but not everyone is, so the full cost of the computer is the full cost of it, if one person can get discounts then good for them. And i'm running the exact same right with twice as much memory and you know what? it sux, playing on my 360 is much better.savagetwinkie

I run Windows 7 on 2gb currently, as my 4gb of ram is in for repair, and it runs perfectly fine. I also showed that GPU can play Crysis well, which shows your personal experience is either wrong, or flawed.

Yes, good for them, you can also attend certain conferences and get new Windows OS' for free, shopuld they be offered, or you can transfer an older version of Windows from another PC if you have it. There are many variables.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]windows 7 is not happy with 2gb of ram, especially not for gaming, i've got an almost identicle setup and my 360 easily outperforms it, i'm waiting for my new vid card which should change things.lundy86_4

I'm running Windows 7 right now on 2gb's whilst my 4gb sticks are in for a warranty exchange, it runs fine, and runs all games fine, which leads me to believe you do not know what you are saying.

Like I said the 4670 pushes Crysis on high at 1024x768, 2xaa at an avg 29 FPS. That is not bad for such a budget card.

pc gaming is so expensive. to get the best experience you need the latest GPU which alone costs like 3x more then 360, not only that but the GPU will be outdated approximately 10 seconds after its release. ill just leave it there

sikanderahmed

To get an experience better than consoles, you don't need to spend that much.

The best is always going to cost more, that's life for you.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

It will be out of date quicker than most PC's, but for a budget of $400 that's not surprising. I proved you wrong, so suck it up my friend.

2 cores is fine, I run everything max on my e8400, and 2gb ram is fine, espoecially with the release of Windows 7. Case is not too important, as those components will not give off as much heat as high-performance parts.

dontshackzmii

Thats not a good machine. You sir have lower standards if you think thats a good machine. Both the spec and the quailty stink

Oh by the way with windows that machine is almost 100$ more then 400$ so no you didnt make a 400$ gaming rig. sadly if it does not have windows its NOT a gaming rig .

Or use an older version of Windows, which i'm sure many people have, or you can get it for cheap or free, as their are a few legal ways to do so.

you have a ps3 for 350$ 150$ for 3 controllers then you need 1500$ for a good tv then you need to spend 50$ on HDMI cable then you need to buy games that are like 20$ more ,

I could make a pc way more powerful then ps3 for the same price and will have way more features .

dontshackzmii

3 controllers..? There is online play you know.. Or 3rd party controllers that are cheaper. Plus use your old tv. Who says you need to get a brand new tv for the PS3/360 right away after buying them + HMDI?

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

pc gaming is so expensive. to get the best experience you need the latest GPU which alone costs like 3x more then 360, not only that but the GPU will be outdated approximately 10 seconds after its release. ill just leave it there

lundy86_4

To get an experience better than consoles, you don't need to spend that much.

The best is always going to cost more, that's life for you.

Not necessarily, sometimes you're paying for a brand name.

you have a ps3 for 350$ 150$ for 3 controllers then you need 1500$ for a good tv then you need to spend 50$ on HDMI cable then you need to buy games that are like 20$ more ,

I could make a pc way more powerful then ps3 for the same price and will have way more features .

dontshackzmii

PS3 = $299 (Buy with free shipping/no taxes off of amazon)

Each extra controller = $45 (Completely optional, most people play multiplayer games online)

Ebay 6 foot HDMI cable = $4

Compatible Monitor or TV = Exact same requirement you'd need for PC gaming; you can use a PC monitor if you want to. Even so, you can buy a 26" HDTV for ~$309 dollars.

I don't think PS3 was a good candidate here to talk about extra expenses - those are much less on the PS3 than they are on the 360 or even the Wii.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"]windows 7 is not happy with 2gb of ram, especially not for gaming, i've got an almost identicle setup and my 360 easily outperforms it, i'm waiting for my new vid card which should change things.savagetwinkie

I'm running Windows 7 right now on 2gb's whilst my 4gb sticks are in for a warranty exchange, it runs fine, and runs all games fine, which leads me to believe you do not know what you are saying.

Like I said the 4670 pushes Crysis on high at 1024x768, 2xaa at an avg 29 FPS. That is not bad for such a budget card.

Of course it's a big difference, but Windows 7 runs fine on 2gb. It only uses 1gb and leaves 1gb for gaming or running programs.

Of course the 4670 isn't a good card, but it plays games quite well. Like I said, I gave you benchmarks, I don't particularly care for your personal experiences as they would prone to embelishment.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

pc gaming is so expensive. to get the best experience you need the latest GPU which alone costs like 3x more then 360, not only that but the GPU will be outdated approximately 10 seconds after its release. ill just leave it there

topgunmv

To get an experience better than consoles, you don't need to spend that much.

The best is always going to cost more, that's life for you.

Not necessarily, sometimes you're paying for a brand name.

Agreed, but the best will always cost more than the worst. A 5870 costs more than a 3870, because it's better. Of course, in the world of technology, prices can drop likes stones, or stay steady for a while.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Thats not a good machine. You sir have lower standards if you think thats a good machine. Both the spec and the quailty stink

Oh by the way with windows that machine is almost 100$ more then 400$ so no you didnt make a 400$ gaming rig. sadly if it does not have windows its NOT a gaming rig .

Or use an older version of Windows, which i'm sure many people have, or you can get it for cheap or free, as their are a few legal ways to do so.

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

pc gaming is so expensive. to get the best experience you need the latest GPU which alone costs like 3x more then 360, not only that but the GPU will be outdated approximately 10 seconds after its release. ill just leave it there

lundy86_4

To get an experience better than consoles, you don't need to spend that much.

The best is always going to cost more, that's life for you.

thats the problem, you dont get better experience on pc. at least i dont.

A majority of quality PC's cost more than PS3s.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I'm running Windows 7 right now on 2gb's whilst my 4gb sticks are in for a warranty exchange, it runs fine, and runs all games fine, which leads me to believe you do not know what you are saying.

Like I said the 4670 pushes Crysis on high at 1024x768, 2xaa at an avg 29 FPS. That is not bad for such a budget card.

Of course it's a big difference, but Windows 7 runs fine on 2gb. It only uses 1gb and leaves 1gb for gaming or running programs.

Of course the 4670 isn't a good card, but it plays games quite well. Like I said, I gave you benchmarks, I don't particularly care for your personal experiences as they would prone to embelishment.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Oh by the way with windows that machine is almost 100$ more then 400$ so no you didnt make a 400$ gaming rig. sadly if it does not have windows its NOT a gaming rig .

savagetwinkie

Or use an older version of Windows, which i'm sure many people have, or you can get it for cheap or free, as their are a few legal ways to do so.

I don't expect that. I am simply showing them as options. Plus there are the usual arguments of running Windows based games in Linux (though not to the same standard obviously.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Or use an older version of Windows, which i'm sure many people have, or you can get it for cheap or free, as their are a few legal ways to do so.

I don't expect that. I am simply showing them as options. Plus there are the usual arguments of running Windows based games in Linux (though not to the same standard obviously.