Console gaming is so expensive

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

pc gaming is so expensive. to get the best experience you need the latest GPU which alone costs like 3x more then 360, not only that but the GPU will be outdated approximately 10 seconds after its release. ill just leave it there

topgunmv

To get an experience better than consoles, you don't need to spend that much.

The best is always going to cost more, that's life for you.

Not necessarily, sometimes you're paying for a brand name.

[QUOTE="HaxxySax_7777"]

In the long run, PC gaming is infinitely cheaper. I've saved probably 500$ this generation.

savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] 2gb vs 3gb windows is a big difference, i have 2 computers and there is a bit of difference between 2 and 4, and the 4670 is not a good card, if your going to play on a pc and spend up to $400 you'll be dissapointed coming from a console. I'm running a 4670 1gb and although i can play games they aren't very smooth, especially on high settings, WoW was filled with slowdown in 10 man raids, it doesn't like high resolutions, Far cry 2 which i just go today had that graphics lag that made the imputs sluggish, i just said screw it and bought a 5770 because the 4670 is a terrible card for any medium to high end gaming, low to medium is doable.savagetwinkie

Of course it's a big difference, but Windows 7 runs fine on 2gb. It only uses 1gb and leaves 1gb for gaming or running programs.

Of course the 4670 isn't a good card, but it plays games quite well. Like I said, I gave you benchmarks, I don't particularly care for your personal experiences as they would prone to embelishment.

However, for very limited $400 rig, that is a good avg FPS. As a standard it is not, but limited to the hardware you would have, it is a good FPS.

Anways, I was simply showing a reasonable $400 rig was possible. Which i've shown. If you want to argue whether it's any good, then you are free to. However that system would be comparable to consoles, and iof not, surpass them.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] you can't expect people to have those sources available to them, and even if they had them they still paid for them, there for they are part of teh total cost, it would be like me having a 360 and not a controller so i can just say, well all i need is to buy a controller so it will only cost me $50 to play 360 games, and i'm sure other people are in the same boat so we don't have to include the cost of a 360 to play 360 games. You need windows to play windows games, therefore you need to buy windows to play windows games. and the rest of the computer.savagetwinkie

I don't expect that. I am simply showing them as options. Plus there are the usual arguments of running Windows based games in Linux (though not to the same standard obviously.

I know you won't get good results. I am simply showing alternatives.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

pc gaming is so expensive. to get the best experience you need the latest GPU which alone costs like 3x more then 360, not only that but the GPU will be outdated approximately 10 seconds after its release. ill just leave it there

sikanderahmed

To get an experience better than consoles, you don't need to spend that much.

The best is always going to cost more, that's life for you.

thats the problem, you dont get better experience on pc. at least i dont.

I meant in terms of performance.

Experience from types of games etc is purely subjective, and people can prefer what they like because of this.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

PS3 = $350
High end PC = $2500
3 PS3 Controllers = $150
3 Extra PCs = $7500 (split screen cant be done on pc so each person requires 1 pc)

Ps3 Total = $500
PC Total = $10000

damn consoles are cheap

dontshackzmii

Lol, split screen is possible on PC, and high end PC's don't need to cost $2500.

The majority of games are moving away from splitscreen on both consoles and PC anyway.

Pretty much no games on pc do it . Also 4 players on a 20 intch screen is like 5 intches eatch wow lame .however online gaming has killed it on consoles as well. unles you have wii

Actually that's 10 inches per person. :D

And what kind of $800 dollar PC would even be able to START a game that looks like Uncharted 2?

In the long run, PC gaming is infinitely cheaper. I've saved probably 500$ this generation.

[QUOTE="snowyfleury"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] i bought an xbox for $400 at the beginning of this generation, i also spent $400 upgrading my pc, which i'm spending another $400 upgrading my pc 5 years later, my 360 is still doing what it does without upgrades.savagetwinkie

True. With PC's it's not simply about upgrading a GPU. If you have to upgrade your processor, and therefore need a new socket type etc, then you will have to spend more money.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Lol, split screen is possible on PC, and high end PC's don't need to cost $2500.

The majority of games are moving away from splitscreen on both consoles and PC anyway.

AndyAlfredo

Pretty much no games on pc do it . Also 4 players on a 20 intch screen is like 5 intches eatch wow lame .however online gaming has killed it on consoles as well. unles you have wii

Actually that's 10 inches per person. :D

And what kind of $800 dollar PC would even be able to START a game that looks like Uncharted 2?

20/4=5

In the long run, PC is cheaper.

At first PC may seem expensive, with all the hardware, graphic card (If you want top of line, 400$) and all that other stuff.

But games in canada are 10 dollars less then consoles.

Plus with new games, console's are 70 dollars now and PC is 50.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Of course it's a big difference, but Windows 7 runs fine on 2gb. It only uses 1gb and leaves 1gb for gaming or running programs.

Of course the 4670 isn't a good card, but it plays games quite well. Like I said, I gave you benchmarks, I don't particularly care for your personal experiences as they would prone to embelishment.

However, for very limited $400 rig, that is a good avg FPS. As a standard it is not, but limited to the hardware you would have, it is a good FPS.

Anways, I was simply showing a reasonable $400 rig was possible. Which i've shown. If you want to argue whether it's any good, then you are free to. However that system would be comparable to consoles, and iof not, surpass them.

In the long run, PC is cheaper.

At first PC may seem expensive, with all the hardware, graphic card (If you want top of line, 400$) and all that other stuff.

But games in canada are 10 dollars less then consoles.

Plus with new games, console's are 70 dollars now and PC is 50.

deathtarget04

The prices are ridiculous in Canada right now.

I seriously have to decide if I really want the console game before buying it. As i'm spending $80 on a new game in store.

In the long run, PC is cheaper.

At first PC may seem expensive, with all the hardware, graphic card (If you want top of line, 400$) and all that other stuff.

But games in canada are 10 dollars less then consoles.

Plus with new games, console's are 70 dollars now and PC is 50.

deathtarget04

The canadian $ these days jumps up and down more then a mechanical bull .

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

In the long run, PC is cheaper.

At first PC may seem expensive, with all the hardware, graphic card (If you want top of line, 400$) and all that other stuff.

But games in canada are 10 dollars less then consoles.

Plus with new games, console's are 70 dollars now and PC is 50.

The prices are ridiculous in Canada right now.

I seriously have to decide if I really want the console game before buying it. As i'm spending $80 on a new game in store.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] so does vista, they are very comparable, and 29fps AVERAGE really isn't that good, average implies drops, where if it was running at a steady 30fps and locked there it would be ok. Your bench marks only show its hitting the medium and stumbling over it here and there.savagetwinkie

However, for very limited $400 rig, that is a good avg FPS. As a standard it is not, but limited to the hardware you would have, it is a good FPS.

Anways, I was simply showing a reasonable $400 rig was possible. Which i've shown. If you want to argue whether it's any good, then you are free to. However that system would be comparable to consoles, and iof not, surpass them.

I agree it's a horrible idea for just gaming. However, I can't talk for everybody's budget. If they reall want to play PC gamnes, for that budget, then it's a viable option. For myself, I usually spend $1500 CAD putting a gaming rig together.

I only set out to put a PC together for $400 which will run some fairly new games. I did that (though to different interpretations of success :P ), though of course it's not a viable option for people with more money to spend on a PC than that :P

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

In the long run, PC is cheaper.

At first PC may seem expensive, with all the hardware, graphic card (If you want top of line, 400$) and all that other stuff.

But games in canada are 10 dollars less then consoles.

Plus with new games, console's are 70 dollars now and PC is 50.

savagetwinkie

The prices are ridiculous in Canada right now.

I seriously have to decide if I really want the console game before buying it. As i'm spending $80 on a new game in store.

True. There is a service similar to Gamefly in Canada, though I personally do not use it. It's gameaccess.ca.

[QUOTE="deathtarget04"]

In the long run, PC is cheaper.

At first PC may seem expensive, with all the hardware, graphic card (If you want top of line, 400$) and all that other stuff.

But games in canada are 10 dollars less then consoles.

Plus with new games, console's are 70 dollars now and PC is 50.

lundy86_4

The prices are ridiculous in Canada right now.

I seriously have to decide if I really want the console game before buying it. As i'm spending $80 on a new game in store.

I know. I only bought like 4 games last year. 1 currently this year.

But i borrow games from friends so it's all good :)

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[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Pretty much no games on pc do it . Also 4 players on a 20 intch screen is like 5 intches eatch wow lame .however online gaming has killed it on consoles as well. unles you have wii

dontshackzmii

Actually that's 10 inches per person. :D

And what kind of $800 dollar PC would even be able to START a game that looks like Uncharted 2?

20/4=5

20 inches is diagonal length. Go from one corner to the other (top left to bottom right) and you'll have 20 inches between 2 screens. Do the other 2 corners (top right to bottom left) and you'll have another 20 inches, between another 2 screens. Each person gets what is equal to a 10 inch (measured diagonally) screen.

Your math is trying to say there is 20 sq/in on the monitor, and each person gets 1/4, which is wrong.

[QUOTE="HaxxySax_7777"]

In the long run, PC gaming is infinitely cheaper. I've saved probably 500$ this generation.

savagetwinkie

Unless you chose your parts unwisely, your older PC would run current games just as well. Just because the games are toned-down the consoles doesn't mean it's doing something the PC isn't doing. It's almost like because there's setting options on PC games that people think the PC is weaker because they somehow think the console is maxing the engine.

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Lol, split screen is possible on PC, and high end PC's don't need to cost $2500.

The majority of games are moving away from splitscreen on both consoles and PC anyway.

AndyAlfredo

Pretty much no games on pc do it . Also 4 players on a 20 intch screen is like 5 intches eatch wow lame .however online gaming has killed it on consoles as well. unles you have wii

Actually that's 10 inches per person. :D

And what kind of $800 dollar PC would even be able to START a game that looks like Uncharted 2?

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

However, for very limited $400 rig, that is a good avg FPS. As a standard it is not, but limited to the hardware you would have, it is a good FPS.

Anways, I was simply showing a reasonable $400 rig was possible. Which i've shown. If you want to argue whether it's any good, then you are free to. However that system would be comparable to consoles, and iof not, surpass them.

I agree it's a horrible idea for just gaming. However, I can't talk for everybody's budget. If they reall want to play PC gamnes, for that budget, then it's a viable option. For myself, I usually spend $1500 CAD putting a gaming rig together.

I only set out to put a PC together for $400 which will run some fairly new games. I did that (though to different interpretations of success :P ), though of course it's not a viable option for people with more money to spend on a PC than that :P

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Lol, split screen is possible on PC, and high end PC's don't need to cost $2500.

The majority of games are moving away from splitscreen on both consoles and PC anyway.

AndyAlfredo

Pretty much no games on pc do it . Also 4 players on a 20 intch screen is like 5 intches eatch wow lame .however online gaming has killed it on consoles as well. unles you have wii

Actually that's 10 inches per person. :D

And what kind of $800 dollar PC would even be able to START a game that looks like Uncharted 2?

you have a ps3 for 350$ 150$ for 3 controllers then you need 1500$ for a good tv then you need to spend 50$ on HDMI cable then you need to buy games that are like 20$ more ,

I could make a pc way more powerful then ps3 for the same price and will have way more features .

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="AndyAlfredo"]

[QUOTE="dontshackzmii"]

Pretty much no games on pc do it . Also 4 players on a 20 intch screen is like 5 intches eatch wow lame .however online gaming has killed it on consoles as well. unles you have wii

iliatay

Actually that's 10 inches per person. :D

And what kind of $800 dollar PC would even be able to START a game that looks like Uncharted 2?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] but if youre just buying a computer for gaming, thats a horrible idea, to buy a $400 computer (technically 500) so 500 vs 300 which consoles at this point can perform better. then to get a better experience and for the most part on some games, playable, you need to go out and buy a new vid card, now there is no reason to get a $100 card since you could have spent the marginal difference in price for a 9800 and get 2x the better results, but like me, i ended up getting a 5770 for 150 today which i can be expecting in a few days. Spending $500 on a cheap gaming computer will end up cosint you far more to get a better experience, then just spending $600 or $800 when you fist get it. Or you can get a ps3 for 300 and about 5 games brandy new. And that should last you 8 + years which you'll be able to play everything on it perfectl fine.savagetwinkie

I agree it's a horrible idea for just gaming. However, I can't talk for everybody's budget. If they reall want to play PC gamnes, for that budget, then it's a viable option. For myself, I usually spend $1500 CAD putting a gaming rig together.

I only set out to put a PC together for $400 which will run some fairly new games. I did that (though to different interpretations of success :P ), though of course it's not a viable option for people with more money to spend on a PC than that :P

I agree. I would personally prefer to save and put together a better PC. Budgets are a big thing for people who have gaming as solely a hobby. I know when I get my new apartment, I won't be able to spend as much mulah on it :P

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I agree it's a horrible idea for just gaming. However, I can't talk for everybody's budget. If they reall want to play PC gamnes, for that budget, then it's a viable option. For myself, I usually spend $1500 CAD putting a gaming rig together.

I only set out to put a PC together for $400 which will run some fairly new games. I did that (though to different interpretations of success :P ), though of course it's not a viable option for people with more money to spend on a PC than that :P

I agree. I would personally prefer to save and put together a better PC. Budgets are a big thing for people who have gaming as solely a hobby. I know when I get my new apartment, I won't be able to spend as much mulah on it :P

[QUOTE="AndyAlfredo"]

Actually that's 10 inches per person. :D

And what kind of $800 dollar PC would even be able to START a game that looks like Uncharted 2?

PC gaming is dead.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] even for someone new in gaming thats a bad idea, if your going to skimp on the pc then at least toss in a high end card, the only way its a good idea is if someone is buying a pc, but only *might* play games on it, instead of investing in a more expensive gaming solution, if they end up playing more then they can get more later on. But for someone that intends to play games, spending an extra $100 on the vid card will make a HUGE difference and it'll save them from upgrading sooner then later.savagetwinkie

I agree. I would personally prefer to save and put together a better PC. Budgets are a big thing for people who have gaming as solely a hobby. I know when I get my new apartment, I won't be able to spend as much mulah on it :P

Definately. I only put that computer together quickly as an example. It can definately be refined.

9800 is still quite a good card for people getting into PC gaming, especially since hardware crushing games are few and far between now.

you have a ps3 for 350$ 150$ for 3 controllers then you need 1500$ for a good tv then you need to spend 50$ on HDMI cable then you need to buy games that are like 20$ more ,

I could make a pc way more powerful then ps3 for the same price and will have way more features .

dontshackzmii

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

I agree. I would personally prefer to save and put together a better PC. Budgets are a big thing for people who have gaming as solely a hobby. I know when I get my new apartment, I won't be able to spend as much mulah on it :P

Definately. I only put that computer together quickly as an example. It can definately be refined.

9800 is still quite a good card for people getting into PC gaming, especially since hardware crushing games are few and far between now.

Both PC and Console gaming can be very similar in price, the difference with PC is it allows for the "enthusiast" market (in the sense of buying more powerful parts).

Both have advantages and disadvantages, and this thread does nothing to dissuade anybody.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Both PC and Console gaming can be very similar in price, the difference with PC is it allows for the "enthusiast" market (in the sense of buying more powerful parts).

Both have advantages and disadvantages, and this thread does nothing to dissuade anybody.

NLahren

In what way?

Then buy a PC while I enjoy my "expensive" PS3.

felipebo

What he said.

you have a ps3 for 350$ 150$ for 3 controllers then you need 1500$ for a good tv then you need to spend 50$ on HDMI cable then you need to buy games that are like 20$ more ,

I could make a pc way more powerful then ps3 for the same price and will have way more features .

You're right, I do kind of hate people like you. Not because you prefer consoles, but because you mindlessly spit bull**** all day about PC gaming. Because you spend your whole freaking life here bashing it for absolutely no reason. Because you think that because you have an opinion, you don't have to respect other people here who disagree with you. Because you insult anyone who likes to play games on their PC like they don't deserve to be here. Because you deny everything in the end and dump all the blame on PC gamers at the end.

Sorry, Hitler but I don't repect those types of people. Keep playing the victim and act like I'm the one who's being an **** here.

you have a ps3 for 350$ 150$ for 3 controllers then you need 1500$ for a good tv then you need to spend 50$ on HDMI cable then you need to buy games that are like 20$ more ,

I could make a pc way more powerful then ps3 for the same price and will have way more features .

you have a ps3 for 350$ 150$ for 3 controllers then you need 1500$ for a good tv then you need to spend 50$ on HDMI cable then you need to buy games that are like 20$ more ,

I could make a pc way more powerful then ps3 for the same price and will have way more features .

yea i aggre, PC gameing ends up cheaper anyway, here in Poland console games cost 2x PC version sometimes

i think consoles can really be cheap if you dont want own a pc. Since most console owner still buying pcs from HP they pay more in the end, while my brother for example dont spent anything for a pc he just visit us if he needs something from windows or do it at work. He even saved enough money to buy his girlfriend another ps3 slim lately.

I think pc gaming can only be cheaper if you figured out how it works. I was used to be a console gamer and have spent a lot of money on fail parts like a videocard that broke after 3 months, a powersupply from lcpower and a cooler that destroyed my motherboard. But if you figured out how to build one you can build a machine that can fit your needs. @TC the controllers are really cheap at least on ps3 for quality wise. You can play them wireless and wired if you need power. Try to find a mouse that can do that, the only one that i know is this mamba from razer for 100€. Consoles are built for gaming you dont have to build them therefor.

Give me a good reason on why you NEED a 50". And why bother spending a fortune on a 50" LED when there are NEOPDP plasmas on the market that are half the price and offer a superior picture.Marka1700

[QUOTE="Marka1700"] Give me a good reason on why you NEED a 50". And why bother spending a fortune on a 50" LED when there are NEOPDP plasmas on the market that are half the price and offer a superior picture.lowe0

Lets see, from a gaming stand point only. Assuming you already have a hdtv and a 5.1 receiver. The consoles and PC are all hooked up to the same tv and receiver.

PS3 Slim with one new game ( lets say COD:MW2 )................ $360.00

Xbox360 Elite with MW2 ( and yearly Live subscription ) and you might need a wireless adaptor too..... $410 to $510

PC .... well this can vary wildly, but if you plan on playing COD:MW2 at 1080p and use the 5.1 reciever you will need a nice graphics card and a sound card with optical output, a decent processor and ram and, the operating system. You will probably need a wireless keyboard and mouse too. Personally my PC hardware investment cost more than my PS3, 360 and Wii combined. So for me............about $1400 initial investment including the game.

So, no, console gaming is not as expensive as pc gaming.