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#501 nintendog66
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I believe even a low end PC can outlcass an Xbox 360 and a PS3. Just grab a Core 2 Duo E7200, 8600GT and 2GB of RAM = 200$. that's ALL you need to make your current PC look and play like a console, all games at 30FPS, decent resolution(1366x768) and max graphics(looks 10x better than consoles). If you're reading this message then that means you're on a PC that means you already have a moterboard, case and all other extra parts and the above components make it a quite capable low/mid end PC.
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#502 AnnoyedDragon
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8600GTnintendog66

I wouldn't go with something that old today, 9600GT and whatever ATI equivalent is a 'mainstream card' that pretty much makes a joke of consoles without worrying the wallet.

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#503 lowe0
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There would have to be something holding games back despite the progress of technology, some sort of lowest common denominator stopping modern shooters from reaching their full potential, I wonder what that could be?

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The art pipeline. Technology has improved, but texturers and modelers still only produce the same amount of work. If you have the money for only 1 or 2 additional FTEs, you can get more bang for the buck right now by putting them in programming (even accounting for how much cheaper artists are).
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#504 mudman91878
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[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="trix5817"][QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="blackace"]

I will provide the links so I can just shut you up.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Video_game_industry

PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007. The console gaming market made 17.9 billion in 2007 in the U.S. alone. Worldwide it was 41.9 billion.

So who's the idiot now? :lol:

w3stfa11



You are for relying on a public wiki than official DFC figures, simply because the wiki is in your favour.



PC Gaming market was only worth $1 billion in the U.S. and 3.8 billion worldwide in 2007.

blackace


DFC Intelligence states 2007 US PC game revenues were $2.76 billion, with a worldwide game revenue of $8.3 billion.





Dude.. Console gaming is $17 billion in the U.S. alone in 2007. So even if you added those worldwide figures together console gaming is STILL OWNING PC gaming. That was the point of the post. That $8.3 billion is probably including subscription costs as well.



You do realize that your putting 3 systems up against 1 right?

You do realize that PC hardware sales are not included in those figures right?

You do realize that console hardware sales ARE included in those figures right?



I realize that. XBox Live subscriptio and downloadable content revenue from the Wii, PS3 and 360 aren't in those figures either. :roll: Even if you took the hardware figures out and use just the software figures it would still be beating PC gaming software figures. The $17 billion was only in the U.S. while the PC figures were worldwide. Seriously, do the math.



As AnnoyedDragon mentioned, it's a very bad comparison. Let's see the numbes from 2007.

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/NPD_2007_in_review

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/PC_sales_2007_in_review

Video game software sales is $8.64 billion including console and handheld. Since it's not fair to compare both those platforms versus PC gaming, it's best to just look at console sales. For consoles, it is $6.6.

A few notes, there are 3 consoles out now versus only one PC platform. All three are entering their second or third year (peak years) and the Wii is boosting game sales enormously. This is evident when you see that console game sales were $4 billion in 2006.

Ok, for PC, game sales were $910 million, excluding online distribution. MMO and online gaming subscriptions total around $1 billion.[http://www.worldsinmotion.biz/2008/05/npd_online_subscriptions_gener.php] Note: This is includes premium subscription revenue by sites like pogo.com

So, it's roughly $6.6billion for console software sales compared with ~$2 billion for PC games. I'd say the PC industry is doing great and will only grow along with the consoles. But anyway, this entire debate is pretty pointless.

Cheers.

PC gaming dwarfs ANY console. Anybody who tries to combine the total sales of 3 COMPETING consoles immediately fails and they should not be argued with.

Also, MMO/game subscriptions are WAY more than $1 billion for PC. WoW alone brings in $150 million a month.

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#505 skrat_01
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Yikes this thread has gotten large.
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#506 demon790
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I believe even a low end PC can outlcass an Xbox 360 and a PS3. Just grab a Core 2 Duo E7200, 8600GT and 2GB of RAM = 200$. that's ALL you need to make your current PC look and play like a console, all games at 30FPS, decent resolution(1366x768) and max graphics(looks 10x better than consoles). If you're reading this message then that means you're on a PC that means you already have a moterboard, case and all other extra parts and the above components make it a quite capable low/mid end PC.nintendog66

Moterboard!? :P LOL Anywho I have a pc...I can upgrade everything but to the core 2 duo...I'm stuck with only pentium 4 or a pentium D. Kinda sucks eh? I see what your doing and it works...making old new. Thats good...but I'm stuck with a 3.00GHz p4 til this computer dies...til them wii60 time

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#507 AdrianWerner
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Stardock already delivered 4 PC AAAs this gen and they are still PC exclusive dev :)
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#508 IgorVitaly
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I believe even a low end PC can outlcass an Xbox 360 and a PS3. Just grab a Core 2 Duo E7200, 8600GT and 2GB of RAM = 200$. that's ALL you need to make your current PC look and play like a console, all games at 30FPS, decent resolution(1366x768) and max graphics(looks 10x better than consoles). If you're reading this message then that means you're on a PC that means you already have a moterboard, case and all other extra parts and the above components make it a quite capable low/mid end PC.nintendog66

This is completly correct, not only would it do the same but quite a bit more. It would be cappable of higher resolution, more texture detail, more geometry shaders etc.

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#509 Phenom316
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This isnt my first post in this thread, i was saying how PC is 10000x better but its all in your opinion.

The thing is since you have a PC and everything if you compare a console to a PC you should compare the parts that make is a gaming pc. 1GB RAM = $30. $400 (console) - $30 = $370. $370 can get duel 4850's. one 4850 is much better than an 8800 GT which already WHOOOOPS consoles graphics.

Dont compare PC to consoles, its degradding.

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#510 Chyropraise
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I have CoD 4 on Xbox 360 and PC. They are basically the same when compared from a single player aspect. Beyond the auto lock on xbox 360 anyway. When you go to Multiplayer the differences between the two are quite large.

1. Auto aim is a joke. I don't know how many times I have been aiming at a persons head and then another enemy walks in front of him and my aim goes all over the place.

2. Xbox live is vastly weaker then a PC dedicated server. I sometimes have lag problems based on what person Xbox Live deems host. Not to mention when the host quits it completely stops the game and brings you back to lobby.

3. Xbox lives random map dice roll. It is rediculous that I sit in the lobby after a match and the host quits and it randomly picks a new map. Possibly bringing you right back to the map you just got done playing. Also it immediately starts the map so it gives the people in the lobby almost zero chance to veto.

In general the single player aspect of PC and Xbox 360 are close. In multiplayer I would say Xbox needs to improve their online service because it is seriously lacking compared to PC servers.

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#511 blackdreamhunk
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Here is fact that you console players over looked. All the hardware companies make there from pc gaming. PC's push the technogly to ti's max. If the pc game Industry was dead. Hardare guys who make cpu's and gpu's would go out of business. That would affect everything. If that ever happened I am sure there is alot large companies that would step in. Even goverments would be affected. We goverments use hardware for alot of stuff.They would want the best.Goverments use hardware for stuff like weapons.
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#512 DarxPhil
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Graphically PC crushes consoles. Why are people fighting then? its to obvious. Gamplay wise it just depends on you and what you perfer. I like PC better, but i just like the games on it more and i belive you can get more out of a PC in the long run. And i love to upgrade my system and build new rigs.:). BTW i could get a 4850 or 9600GT and i will kill consoles in a matter of second. To PC gamers games with good graphics like gears of war and MGS4 are just cute.