Console > PC: Prove me wrong

I'm a PC gamer, and the only console I own is a PS2. But I've grown bored of arguing for the PC, so now I'm going to switch teams for a bit. Anyway, the console is better for these reasons:

A console is convenient
You don't have to worry about tweaking anything
You don't have to update drivers
You don't have to worry about conflicting processes such as AVG and Steam
The games are better
The graphics look good and the system only costs $400 bucks
It's cheaper to game on
You can lay on your couch while playing

In before the hermits hit you with the "MODS, /thread" post.

I'm a PC gamer, and the only console I own is a PS2. But I've grown bored of arguing for the PC, so now I'm going to switch teams for a bit. Anyway, the console is better for these reasons:

A console is convenientYou don't have to worry about tweaking anything
You don't have to update drivers
You don't have to worry about conflicting processes such as AVG and Steam
The games are better
The graphics look good and the system only costs $400 bucks
It's cheaper to game on
You can lay on your couch while playing

VoodooGamer

You make good points, the only ones that are wrong or possible incorrect, are:

"The games are better" - This is completely subjective, and is in fact the other way around for me.

"The graphics look good and the system only costs $400 bucks" - You can build a more powerful PC for $400, so the price is moot. Unless we are talking arcade 360.

"You can lay on your couch while playing" - My PC is set up the same way as my consoles, and I sit on the same couch.

The rest are just a trade-off for added advantages, such as higher rez, better graphics, better control scheme (subjective) using controller or KB/M, mods etc etc.

The games are betterVoodooGamer

In before the hermits hit you with the "MODS, /thread" post.

bez2083

Lulz, that was me. At least it was only a small part of my point though :P

simple:

backwards compatabilty

I'm a PC gamer, and the only console I own is a PS2. But I've grown bored of arguing for the PC, so now I'm going to switch teams for a bit. Anyway, the console is better for these reasons:

A console is convenient
You don't have to worry about tweaking anything
You don't have to update drivers
You don't have to worry about conflicting processes such as AVG and Steam
The games are better
The graphics look good and the system only costs $400 bucks
It's cheaper to game on
You can lay on your couch while playing

VoodooGamer

Better games = Subjective.

Cheaper to game on = depends.

400bucks = the cheapest is now 200.

chocolate ice cream > Vanilla

Prove me wrong.

PC plays all games of the past, often with upgrades (like re-texture packs and such), as well as having the best version of every multiplat, tweaking, updating, conflicting is an issue of less then 1% occurence rate, it takes seconds to update IF you need to, and now several consoles games have patches and updating too. Tweaking is optional, and its more like to run a newer game on an older machine, You can build a pretty damn good PC for about $500, it might not very high crysis on some crazy resolution, but should be able to do just about everything else.Also Mods, adding 2,3,4x as much content to a game, or more, I used over 20 mods in Oblivion to make it playable as it was far too "consolized".

This is getting tedious...

chocolate ice cream > Vanilla

Prove me wrong.

Much of what console users consider disadvantages on PC are seen as advantages to PC gamers, stuff requires more effort but that's because there are more options available to you.

PC gamers perform trade offs for their benefits, trading convenience for freedom. If you just state convenience on consoles and take no note of the sacrifices you have to make to achieve that convenience; then you never appreciated what PC has to offer in the first place.

That said the truthfulness of much of what the OP said is debatable.

I think it's about time I put my old sig back.

mods make every multiplat game better the games are far better (demigod, neverwinter nights, Diablo 2, Audiosurf) better graphics the best online comminities dedicates servers with admins to keep problem makers and rage kids out and they have NO LAG(key factor here) you lay on a couch to play games? i can lay in my far more comfortable bed and play backwards compatibility further back than 1 generation, i can play games from the early 90s with minimal effort

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

chocolate ice cream > Vanilla

Prove me wrong.

moose_knuckler

Who, whoa, whoa, strawberry owns everything :evil:

I wonder how many people will come in here without reading the first line in your OP. Anyway, alot of those are opinion, some are try some aren't, the thing that it comes down to is.

1. PC can play ALL its games

2. PC has the best visuals and the best multiplats (most of the time)

3. PC has cheaper games

4. PC has the MOST and most AAA/AA exclusives of any system

5. PC has the most unique control options and mods to both change how you play a game and how much value you get from one

Dunno if I am forgetting anything.

This is such a pointless thread. The TC has his mind made up already and if you can't see why PC gaming is better than there's no point in arguing.

The fact that this person logged right after posting this thread suggests he's just trying to spark a flame war for laughs. Some of the items in his list are simply subjective or outright wrong, it wouldn't surprise me if this wasn't a serious thread.

The people outright agreeing with him need to read his list better, that or quit being ignorant.

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

chocolate ice cream > Vanilla

Prove me wrong.

-Traveller-

Who, whoa, whoa, strawberry owns everything :evil:

This is such a pointless thread. The TC has his mind made up already and if you can't see why PC gaming is better than there's no point in arguing.

Aljosa23

Consoles are a much better all around gaming solution if you ask me. Computers have many other uses and that's why we all have one. Some PC games are good but to be dedicated to only playing PC games is just limiting yourself. Jamex1987

So being dedicated to console gaming isn't just as limiting?

[QUOTE="-Traveller-"]

[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Cookie's n Cream FTW :PAirGuitarist87

Who, whoa, whoa, strawberry owns everything :evil:

That... Just might work. It's decided. I'm going to try it at some point, if I die though, I want you to know. It's all your fault :P

I'm a PC gamer, and the only console I own is a PS2. But I've grown bored of arguing for the PC, so now I'm going to switch teams for a bit. Anyway, the console is better for these reasons:

A console is convenient
Having a PC running correctly isn't exactly rocket science either.
You don't have to worry about tweaking anything
I never do any tweaking with any of my games other than setting all settings to "High".
You don't have to update drivers
That takes like 10 minutes and only happens like twice a year.
You don't have to worry about conflicting processes such as AVG and Steam
Never run into any problems with that.
The games are better
Debatable, although a lot of multiplats are on the PC, which makes this a weak point.
The graphics look good and the system only costs $400 bucks
PCs don't cost much more than that nowadays, and the graphics are better.
It's cheaper to game on
The games are ten dollars more expensive at launch and don't go down in price nearly as fast.
You can lay on your couch while playing
You can do this with a PC, too, if it's hooked up to your livingroom TV. Besides, you can get awesome chairs which are just as comfy as couches.

VoodooGamer

I've heard all this before a thousand times before.

This is such a pointless thread. The TC has his mind made up already and if you can't see why PC gaming is better than there's no point in arguing.

Aljosa23

So we have one so far.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

This is such a pointless thread. The TC has his mind made up already and if you can't see why PC gaming is better than there's no point in arguing.

stiltzsy

Quake> Unreal Tournament

Half-Life>Halo

Baldur's Gate>Final Fantasy

Planescape Torment>Chrono Cross

Deus Ex 1> Call of Duty

Heretic 2>Gears of War

PC>Console

Prove me wrong. See I can do that to.

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]Consoles are a much better all around gaming solution if you ask me. Computers have many other uses and that's why we all have one. Some PC games are good but to be dedicated to only playing PC games is just limiting yourself. Espada12

So being dedicated to console gaming isn't just as limiting?

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

I'm a PC gamer, and the only console I own is a PS2. But I've grown bored of arguing for the PC, so now I'm going to switch teams for a bit. Anyway, the console is better for these reasons:

A console is convenient
Having a PC running correctly isn't exactly rocket science either.
You don't have to worry about tweaking anything
I never do any tweaking with any of my games other than setting all settings to "High".
You don't have to update drivers
That takes like 10 minutes and only happens like twice a year.
You don't have to worry about conflicting processes such as AVG and Steam
Never run into any problems with that.
The games are better
Debatable, although a lot of multiplats are on the PC, which makes this a weak point.
The graphics look good and the system only costs $400 bucks
PCs don't cost much more than that nowadays, and the graphics are better.
It's cheaper to game on
The games are ten dollars more expensive at launch and don't go down in price nearly as fast.
You can lay on your couch while playing
You can do this with a PC, too, if it's hooked up to your livingroom TV. Besides, you can get awesome chairs which are just as comfy as couches.

I've heard all this before a thousand times before.

[QUOTE="stiltzsy"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

This is such a pointless thread. The TC has his mind made up already and if you can't see why PC gaming is better than there's no point in arguing.

[QUOTE="MetroidPrimePwn"]

[QUOTE="VoodooGamer"]

I'm a PC gamer, and the only console I own is a PS2. But I've grown bored of arguing for the PC, so now I'm going to switch teams for a bit. Anyway, the console is better for these reasons:

A console is convenient
Having a PC running correctly isn't exactly rocket science either.
You don't have to worry about tweaking anything
I never do any tweaking with any of my games other than setting all settings to "High".
You don't have to update drivers
That takes like 10 minutes and only happens like twice a year.
You don't have to worry about conflicting processes such as AVG and Steam
Never run into any problems with that.
The games are better
Debatable, although a lot of multiplats are on the PC, which makes this a weak point.
The graphics look good and the system only costs $400 bucks
PCs don't cost much more than that nowadays, and the graphics are better.
It's cheaper to game on
The games are ten dollars more expensive at launch and don't go down in price nearly as fast.
You can lay on your couch while playing
You can do this with a PC, too, if it's hooked up to your livingroom TV. Besides, you can get awesome chairs which are just as comfy as couches.

stiltzsy

I've heard all this before a thousand times before.

Let's try to see you game competitively laying on a sofa in general.....and you need to update your drivers on any cuttign edge game? :lol: , I've been using the same drivers that came with my 8800 two years ago. Also you don't need to tweak, you can tweak if you want but most games come with something called auto settings /gasp

Yes you do need t tweak...if your FPS isn't what you want then it becomes a game of which graphic goody when turned off has the best bang for the buck (higher FPS) wiht least eyecandy impact.stiltzsy

No, I don't need to tweak. Stuff like BioShock, Far Cry 2, FEAR 2, etc. ran perfectly fine on my computer on all highest settings with no tweaking required. The only exception was Crysis, where I had to turn like 3 settings down to Medium to get it to run fine. Plus, all this stuff really only applies to shooters. You can still get tons of great games like RTS, Turn Based Strategy, Adventure, Puzzler, Casual Games, etc. that don't need uber-hardware at all.

Oh, and BTW, I'm sure you already know this, but you can use a controller with a PC, so you can play it on the couch the same way you would as with a console.

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]Consoles are a much better all around gaming solution if you ask me. Computers have many other uses and that's why we all have one. Some PC games are good but to be dedicated to only playing PC games is just limiting yourself. Espada12

So being dedicated to console gaming isn't just as limiting?

or is it really worth the effort for you to post because it's fun to argue?stiltzsy

In terms of games that are appealing to the masses the consoles offers a much better all around gaming solution. Yes you can't play Empire total War unless you stick a video card into your desktop PC but that game isn't that appealing.

Jamex1987

You mean it is not appealing to you, you cannot make sweeping statements about the overall appeal of a game because of your personal preference.

That said even if you consider it the case, I'd rather be on a platform that doesn't appeal to the masses. The masses take games like Morrowind and Deus Ex and turn them into over accessible bland crap.

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="stiltzsy"] Well I guess SW is pointless then too, so why do you even post here? just curious?stiltzsy

PC gaming >>> Console gaming imo, and ive owned almost every console since atari/nes.

- Pc gaming has tons of user made mods that are awesome

- MORE OPTIONS for controls!! (ps1,ps2, ps3, xbox360,etc.. controllers you can use), plus keyboard and mouse

- MUCH better graphics and sound quality, because of MUCH better graphics cards and much better sound cards then what consoles have

- Easyier to fix a problem on a pc (spend 30$ on a new stick of ram,etc..).

- The biggest and best selection of older games.

- The best online by miles

- MUCH better version of multiplat games

Consoles are a much better all around gaming solution if you ask me. Computers have many other uses and that's why we all have one. Some PC games are good but to be dedicated to only playing PC games is just limiting yourself. Jamex1987

LOL @ limiting yourself by beign a pc gamer haha, what a joke!

You limit yourself by ONLY playing on consoles, why not both?

consoles you gotta get up pop in disk and if you want to play a different game you gotta get up and change disk. while on pc once it's installed you dont need the disk, i lay down in my bed using 360 controller for crysis and ut3 and other games, but my mouse cursor is the analog lol, i dont have to get up to change disk or anything. console gaming is pointless except for exclusives they arent more convient.pcisgodfookcons

Wait till people come in and tell you that you cant use contollers for pc gaming! And that you cant have TEH RUMBLE!!! with pc gaming LOLZ.

[QUOTE="Espada12"]

[QUOTE="Jamex1987"]Consoles are a much better all around gaming solution if you ask me. Computers have many other uses and that's why we all have one. Some PC games are good but to be dedicated to only playing PC games is just limiting yourself. shadow_hosi

So being dedicated to console gaming isn't just as limiting?

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

So being dedicated to console gaming isn't just as limiting?

Jamex1987

Fifa 09 is awesome on pc and NBA2k9 i own for both 360 and PC and i enjoy the pc version more.

[QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="Espada12"]

So being dedicated to console gaming isn't just as limiting?

Jamex1987

What on earth are you talking about? I have mates come over all the tiem to play Fifa 09 on pc. We have 3 xbox360 controllers and a ps2 one and works fantastic.

Let's try to see you game competitively laying on a sofa in general.....and you need to update your drivers on any cuttign edge game? :lol: , I've been using the same drivers that came with my 8800 two years ago. Also you don't need to tweak, you can tweak if you want but most games come with something called auto settings /gasp

Espada12

Much of what console users consider disadvantages on PC are seen as advantages to PC gamers, stuff requires more effort but that's because there are more options available to you.

PC gamers perform trade offs for their benefits, trading convenience for freedom. If you just state convenience on consoles and take no note of the sacrifices you have to make to achieve that convenience; then you never appreciated what PC has to offer in the first place.

That said the truthfulness of much of what the OP said is debatable.

AnnoyedDragon

Limiting yourself to Pc games might not be a bad thing if you consifer yourself a 'hermit'with no friends that come over because 2 player on PC isn't exactly popular.Jamex1987

[QUOTE="stiltzsy"]Yes you do need t tweak...if your FPS isn't what you want then it becomes a game of which graphic goody when turned off has the best bang for the buck (higher FPS) wiht least eyecandy impact.MetroidPrimePwn

No, I don't need to tweak. Stuff like BioShock, Far Cry 2, FEAR 2, etc. ran perfectly fine on my computer on all highest settings with no tweaking required. The only exception was Crysis, where I had to turn like 3 settings down to Medium to get it to run fine. Plus, all this stuff really only applies to shooters. You can still get tons of great games like RTS, Turn Based Strategy, Adventure, Puzzler, Casual Games, etc. that don't need uber-hardware at all.

Oh, and BTW, I'm sure you already know this, but you can use a controller with a PC, so you can play it on the couch the same way you would as with a console.