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#1 fireballonfire
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What is it with cows and their hubris.

If RE5 is anything to go by, seeing as it is a new game developed for all platforms. RE5 is still considered a graphical achievement and is one of the best looking titles for the consoles. This same game maxed out on my PC runs at almost 80FPS (1680 x 1080, 16qx aa)average.

The conclusion is that a decent gaming-PC is about 10 times as powerful as the PS3. Twice as many pixels at almost tripple the framerate + AA beyond what the PS3 will ever see in it's wet dream.

PC-hardware is now so powerful that it totally humiliates console graphics. If uncharted 2 was built for PC it would face the same humiliation as RE5, simple as that(maybe a slightly lower FPS). This same hardware(my PC) have trouble keeping 30FPS running Crysis ultrahigh, 1680 x 1080 4 AA.

It doesn't take that many braincells to figure out that Crysis is a VERY advanced game. It excells in every category, graphics, scale, physics and interaction.

Crysis doesn't make console games look like supermario in comparison but make no misstake maxed out and it makes todays console-games last-gen, and is something you might get to experience with PS4.

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#2 carter15kd5
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we know this already

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#3 FamiBox
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heh. even the 360 version of RE5 looks better than the PS3 version.

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#4 Led_poison
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heh. even the 360 version of RE5 looks better than the PS3 version.

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you mean the wii :|
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#5 funsohng
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can you tell us something that we don't know already
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#6 scarface_dm
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Who cares about pc games, nobody play them anyways :|

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#7 FamiBox
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[QUOTE="FamiBox"]

heh. even the 360 version of RE5 looks better than the PS3 version.

Led_poison

you mean the wii :|

what? :|

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#8 fireballonfire
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Who cares about pc games, nobody play them anyways :|

scarface_dm

Well, PC-gamers do.

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#9 JangoWuzHere
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Who cares about pc games, nobody play them anyways :|

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Well you cared enough to post in a PC thread.
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#11 trollop_scat
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Console graphics will always get trumped by PC - PC can run games at 25x16. But kids cant afford expensive computers, plus a 30 inch monitor. They're lucky if their parents have an HDTV (1080 - haha). So bragging about PC's superior graphics to them is pointless.

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#12 funsohng
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[QUOTE="zbdyx"][QUOTE="scarface_dm"]

Who cares about pc games, nobody play them anyways :|

Really?Stupidest post of the day.Well,almost as stupid as the one in my sig

holy cow your sig is awesome lawl
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#13 HotRevolver
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Console graphics will always get trumped by PC - PC can run games at 25x16. But kids cant afford expensive computers, plus a 30 inch monitor. They're lucky if their parents have an HDTV (1080 - haha). So bragging about PC's superior graphics to them is pointless.

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25x16!? Whoa, what a resolution!
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#14 Tauu
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"Console-graphics humiliated by PC"

That is, until devs learn to awaken the beast that is THE CELL!!! It's already beginning, just look at Heavy Rain and GT5.

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#15 topgunmv
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Console graphics will always get trumped by PC - PC can run games at 25x16. But kids cant afford expensive computers, plus a 30 inch monitor. They're lucky if their parents have an HDTV (1080 - haha). So bragging about PC's superior graphics to them is pointless.

trollop_scat

If by "kids" you mean anyone who would rather spend that extra cash on something else, sure.

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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

What is it with cows and their hubris.

If RE5 is anything to go by, seeing as it is a new game developed for all platforms. RE5 is still considered a graphical achievement and is one of the best looking titles for the consoles. This same game maxed out on my PC runs at almost 80FPS (1680 x 1080, 16qx aa)average.

The conclusion is that a decent gaming-PC is about 10 times as powerful as the PS3. Twice as many pixels at almost tripple the framerate + AA beyond what the PS3 will ever see in it's wet dream.

PC-hardware is now so powerful that it totally humiliates console graphics. If uncharted 2 was built for PC it would face the same humiliation as RE5, simple as that(maybe a slightly lower FPS). This same hardware(my PC) have trouble keeping 30FPS running Crysis ultrahigh, 1680 x 1080 4 AA.

It doesn't take that many braincells to figure out that Crysis is a VERY advanced game. It excells in every category, graphics, scale, physics and interaction.

Crysis doesn't make console games look like supermario in comparison but make no misstake maxed out and it makes todays console-games last-gen, and is something you might get to experience with PS4.

Cool Story Bro, Go Blog It
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#17 fireballonfire
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"Console-graphics humiliated by PC"

That is, until devs learn to awaken the beast that is THE CELL!!! It's already beginning, just look at Heavy Rain and GT5.

Tauu

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

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#18 prsman
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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

[QUOTE="Tauu"]

"Console-graphics humiliated by PC"

That is, until devs learn to awaken the beast that is THE CELL!!! It's already beginning, just look at Heavy Rain and GT5.

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

...and? The PC wasn't originally made for games, so yeah.
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#19 fireballonfire
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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

[QUOTE="Tauu"]

"Console-graphics humiliated by PC"

That is, until devs learn to awaken the beast that is THE CELL!!! It's already beginning, just look at Heavy Rain and GT5.

prsman

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

...and? The PC wasn't originally made for games, so yeah.

So yeah, what??

Todays PC GPU's and CPU's are designed to handle graphics. Are you talking about the late eighties or the earlyninties perhaps.

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#20 CaptainHarley
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Cool Story Bro, Go Blog Itprsman

this is system wars, right? the forum where we argue which systems are best. i keep kind of forgetting which forum im in since so many people seem adverse to actually engaging in the debate

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#21 JangoWuzHere
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[QUOTE="prsman"]Cool Story Bro, Go Blog ItCaptainHarley

this is system wars, right? the forum where we argue which systems are best. i keep kind of forgetting which forum im in since so many people seem adverse to actually engaging in the debate

Yes it seems people don't understand the point of this forum at all.
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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

[QUOTE="Tauu"]

"Console-graphics humiliated by PC"

That is, until devs learn to awaken the beast that is THE CELL!!! It's already beginning, just look at Heavy Rain and GT5.

prsman

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

...and? The PC wasn't originally made for games, so yeah.

but the first games were made on and for the pc

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#23 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="prsman"][QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

washd123

...and? The PC wasn't originally made for games, so yeah.

but the first games were made on and for the pc

Actually I believe they were made for the Odyssey.

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#24 washd123
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="prsman"] ...and? The PC wasn't originally made for games, so yeah.topgunmv

but the first games were made on and for the pc

Actually I believe they were made for the Odyssey.

was the oddessy out in 1961?

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What is it with cows and their hubris.

If RE5 is anything to go by, seeing as it is a new game developed for all platforms. RE5 is still considered a graphical achievement and is one of the best looking titles for the consoles. This same game maxed out on my PC runs at almost 80FPS (1680 x 1080, 16qx aa)average.

The conclusion is that a decent gaming-PC is about 10 times as powerful as the PS3. Twice as many pixels at almost tripple the framerate + AA beyond what the PS3 will ever see in it's wet dream.

PC-hardware is now so powerful that it totally humiliates console graphics. If uncharted 2 was built for PC it would face the same humiliation as RE5, simple as that(maybe a slightly lower FPS). This same hardware(my PC) have trouble keeping 30FPS running Crysis ultrahigh, 1680 x 1080 4 AA.

It doesn't take that many braincells to figure out that Crysis is a VERY advanced game. It excells in every category, graphics, scale, physics and interaction.

Crysis doesn't make console games look like supermario in comparison but make no misstake maxed out and it makes todays console-games last-gen, and is something you might get to experience with PS4.

fireballonfire
Uh... humiliate? Thats a little strong. Nitpicker, thats a better description.
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#26 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="washd123"]

but the first games were made on and for the pc

washd123

Actually I believe they were made for the Odyssey.

was the oddessy out in 1961?

What was out in 1961?

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#27 washd123
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What was out in 1961?

topgunmv

pc games

spacewar! in 1961

and computer games in general back to 1948

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#28 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

What was out in 1961?

washd123

pc games

spacewar! in 1961

and computer games in general back to 1948

A "cathode ray tube amusement device" is not a computer game.

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#29 washd123
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A "cathode ray tube amusement device" is not a computer game.

topgunmv

its a game played on a computer what would you call it?

its not a pc game but i never said it was.

spacewar! is

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#30 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

A "cathode ray tube amusement device" is not a computer game.

washd123

its a game played on a computer what would you call it?

its not a pc game but i never said it was.

spacewar! is

A cathode ray tube device sounds an aweful lot like a tv, not a computer.

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#31 washd123
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A cathode ray tube device sounds an aweful lot like a tv, not a computer.

topgunmv

kinda but even if you ignore it

NIMROD computer in 1951 had a game or two

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#32 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

A cathode ray tube device sounds an aweful lot like a tv, not a computer.

washd123

kinda but even if you ignore it

NIMROD computer in 1951 had a game or two

Ok, I'll give you that.

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#33 washd123
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

A cathode ray tube device sounds an aweful lot like a tv, not a computer.

topgunmv

kinda but even if you ignore it

NIMROD computer in 1951 had a game or two

Ok, I'll give you that.

well those are just computer games.

like i said 1961 spacewar! is the first pc game.

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#34 topgunmv
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[QUOTE="topgunmv"]

[QUOTE="washd123"]

kinda but even if you ignore it

NIMROD computer in 1951 had a game or two

washd123

Ok, I'll give you that.

well those are just computer games.

like i said 1961 spacewar! is the first pc game.

Well you said the first games were made on and for the pc, when apparently they were actually analog devices which weren't mass produced followed by what were essentially novelty games shown at high profile fairs. So we both jumped the gun a bit.

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#35 dah_master
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Isn't Crysis coming to the PS3?

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#36 washd123
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Isn't Crysis coming to the PS3?

dah_master

no its not

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Considering this counsol gen has been arround for 5 years (or so) and the plans for the systems had to be set in stone before that I'd hope that a modern high end PC could significantly out perform them.
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#38 beekayjay
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I would never question the power of a well built PC. However, I would question why PC games of any serious relevance only come out once every 2 years or so.
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#39 2mrw
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i wonder what recent PC games would look like if they are running on 2006 PCs, i bet PS4 would destroy any games released till 2010 on any platform...........PCs are better but they are overrated.

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#40 anotherone10
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Thanks for the info, i didn't already know this...even though i have read a million of the same threads :roll:

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#41 BPoole96
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Yawn. Why is it that PC gamers seem to only talk about graphics, and not about games? The only games they talk about are console games and how superior Crysis's graphics are to them

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#42 Mitjastiskovski
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Yawn. Why is it that PC gamers seem to only talk about graphics, and not about games? The only games they talk about are console games and how superior Crysis's graphics are to them

BPoole96

*facepalm* Go to system wars and count how many threads are about console graphic kings and how many are for PC games. PC gamers can't compete cause we are not that sad to count pixels and look at every shadow and then claim that PS3 or X360 graphics are better.

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#43 caribo2222
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Double_Facepalm by BewilderedBadger.

Pc graphics have not humiliated console graphics, the majority of PC's owned by people in the world have less powerfull graphics cards than the consoles, because most people don't use them aming. The Consoles all have the same graphicall benchmark so they can be more efficiantly utilised by developers and be pushed to their limit unlike Pc's. So the the fact of the story is, Console graphics humiliate most PC's graphics =)

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#44 Major_Reeves
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Don't you guys have games to play?

Besides being all day bla blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah here on the foruns making pointless threads?

Pc gamers may talk only about crysis since it's the actual pinnacle in graphics and physic's but there are more great looking games like arma 2, stalker and cryostasis and every other single game multiplatform or pc exclusive will always blow the consoles.

If you don't have money, don't want to game on a pc, it's ok, no one is pointing at you an infinite of nuclear warheads, it's called choice you know and for some folks consoles don't offer the experience they want.

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#45 CrAppyF33ling
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Yawn. Why is it that PC gamers seem to only talk about graphics, and not about games? The only games they talk about are console games and how superior Crysis's graphics are to them

BPoole96

Because theyre mad that consoles have the most talked about exclusives? idk

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#46 mo0ksi
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Yawn. Why is it that PC gamers seem to only talk about graphics, and not about games? The only games they talk about are console games and how superior Crysis's graphics are to them

BPoole96
Why is that the PC & MAC games board completely absent of Crysis threads then? Honestly, do you want me to pull out an Uncharted 2 graphics thread that happened a week or two ago?
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[QUOTE="Tauu"]

"Console-graphics humiliated by PC"

That is, until devs learn to awaken the beast that is THE CELL!!! It's already beginning, just look at Heavy Rain and GT5.

fireballonfire

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

actually to date no games have used the multithread processing of the cell, they've all run on GPU rendering and simply put the ai on the CPU because thats how you do it on pc. the cell has over 30 threads each of which would take about a quarter of a second to render a frame of uncharted 2, so if it were used right, the cell could enable a 120fps uncharted 2 with the same level of graphics. now, compare some arch vis renders (just google image that) to heavy rain and the like, arch vis is CPU rendered, all games so far are gpu rendered. the cell could, technically, effectively quadruple the power of the ps3 if used right, (30 things each figuring out 4 things a second vs 1 thing figuring out 30 things per second) but nobody has programmed that yet except for some of sony's so called canned tech demos (which are in realtime)
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[QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

[QUOTE="Tauu"]

"Console-graphics humiliated by PC"

That is, until devs learn to awaken the beast that is THE CELL!!! It's already beginning, just look at Heavy Rain and GT5.

12345678ew

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

actually to date no games have used the multithread processing of the cell, they've all run on GPU rendering and simply put the ai on the CPU because thats how you do it on pc. the cell has over 30 threads each of which would take about a quarter of a second to render a frame of uncharted 2, so if it were used right, the cell could enable a 120fps uncharted 2 with the same level of graphics. now, compare some arch vis renders (just google image that) to heavy rain and the like, arch vis is CPU rendered, all games so far are gpu rendered. the cell could, technically, effectively quadruple the power of the ps3 if used right, (30 things each figuring out 4 things a second vs 1 thing figuring out 30 things per second) but nobody has programmed that yet except for some of sony's so called canned tech demos (which are in realtime)

keep telling yourself that
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Tell us something we don't know. :roll:

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#50 Major_Reeves
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[QUOTE="12345678ew"][QUOTE="fireballonfire"]

Good one. So they take advantage of teh cell and all of a sudden the PS3 advances 1000% in power, preach on dude.

Look teh CELL was never specifically designed to process gaming-code. It is more of a universal processor Sony planned to put in a wide variety of electronic devices.

Brainkiller05

actually to date no games have used the multithread processing of the cell, they've all run on GPU rendering and simply put the ai on the CPU because thats how you do it on pc. the cell has over 30 threads each of which would take about a quarter of a second to render a frame of uncharted 2, so if it were used right, the cell could enable a 120fps uncharted 2 with the same level of graphics. now, compare some arch vis renders (just google image that) to heavy rain and the like, arch vis is CPU rendered, all games so far are gpu rendered. the cell could, technically, effectively quadruple the power of the ps3 if used right, (30 things each figuring out 4 things a second vs 1 thing figuring out 30 things per second) but nobody has programmed that yet except for some of sony's so called canned tech demos (which are in realtime)

keep telling yourself that

120 fps? Blasphemy !!!

the ppe is dual threaded, same for the xbox cpu since it basically features 3 ppe's but no spe's.

But the ppe's are single threaded. So sayounara 30 threads. But hey, you can buy 15 + 1 ps3's and cluster them, that way you'll have 30 threaded cluster + 1 client all linked to a switch, provided that sony writes an engine capable of sharing the workload over the nodes. (just imagine the powar to tha cell, 30 threads, 90 spe's, 15 rsx and it's doable due to the gigabyte ethernet nic)

Lol e3 2005, xbox 1 teraflop, ps3 2 teraflops, lol w00t and pigs on the wind...