Consoles are far behind in this aspect...

Controls.

Not only are the controllers not customizable, but you also have a very limited amount to choose from. And I'm just talking about normal gamepads.

I will give you examples when it comes to PC.

So, you like the 360 controller best ?

Get a 360 controller for Windows.

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So, you like the PS2/PS3 controller best ?

Get a Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2. (You can also use a PS2 to PC adapter)

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So, you like the 360 controller, but you'd like the option to switch the d-pad with the left analog stick for certain games ?

Get a Saitek Cyborg Pad.

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So, you just want a simple controller to play your old games ?

Get a Logitech Precision.

Not going against your point, but control customization is really up to the developers. It's just that PC devs put it in, and most console devs don't.-Montauk-

Saitek Cyborg for example:

"... you can also program any button on the pad to become a Precision button. Once programmed, pressing this button can affect the sensitivity of either of the analogue sticks. Having trouble hitting targets through your sniper rifle when using the analogue stick to aim? Hold the Precision button down and the response speed of the stick is reduced, making it much easier to draw a bead on your target.

The Cyborg Rumble Pad also features Saitek's unique FPS button. We realise that many gamers (especially those used to playing on consoles) like to use their gamepads to control first person shooter games, but the majority of these games on PC do not support gamepads. To make the gamepad work in the game you need to program it using the supplied programming software. Whilst this option is still available to you, you can take all the effort out of this by pressing the FPS button on the pad. This instantly programs the pad with the keyboard and mouse commands typically used in these games, meaning you can start playing your games even quicker."

SSBB says hello.dracula_16

Lol. SSBB can counter any argument.

SSBB says hello.dracula_16

[QUOTE="-Montauk-"]Not going against your point, but control customization is really up to the developers. It's just that PC devs put it in, and most console devs don't.Forza_2

Saitek Cyborg for example:

"... you can also program any button on the pad to become a Precision button. Once programmed, pressing this button can affect the sensitivity of either of the analogue sticks. Having trouble hitting targets through your sniper rifle when using the analogue stick to aim? Hold the Precision button down and the response speed of the stick is reduced, making it much easier to draw a bead on your target.

The Cyborg Rumble Pad also features Saitek's unique FPS button. We realise that many gamers (especially those used to playing on consoles) like to use their gamepads to control first person shooter games, but the majority of these games on PC do not support gamepads. To make the gamepad work in the game you need to program it using the supplied programming software. Whilst this option is still available to you, you can take all the effort out of this by pressing the FPS button on the pad. This instantly programs the pad with the keyboard and mouse commands typically used in these games, meaning you can start playing your games even quicker."

aren't those all extras? don't consoles come wth a controller?

If you want a controller on PC you need to pay extra

And can you program your own controls and use it on a console?-Montauk-

[QUOTE="-Montauk-"]And can you program your own controls and use it on a console?Forza_2

I guess you missed my point then. If devs would just put an option to customize controls, you would be able to do it. I know you can customize controls for the 360 version of the Orange Box, and same with Moto GP '06...-Montauk-

aren't those all extras? don't consoles come wth a controller?

If you want a controller on PC you need to pay extra

krunkfu2

[QUOTE="-Montauk-"]I guess you missed my point then. If devs would just put an option to customize controls, you would be able to do it. I know you can customize controls for the 360 version of the Orange Box, and same with Moto GP '06...Forza_2

Well uh yea, PC does give you alot more control options.

You could even put the Wiimote, flight sticks, racing wheels and arcade pads in for good measure.

Does it really matter if the controller is customizable or not? I'm fine with what I have and see nothing wrong with it. filiwian

Does it really matter if the controller is customizable or not? I'm fine with what I have and see nothing wrong with it. filiwian

I agree but your in system wars where if a console got a toaster on it all the other consoles without one would suck.

Well uh yea, PC does give you alot more control options.

You could even put the Wiimote, flight sticks, racing wheels and arcade pads in for good measure.

skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Well uh yea, PC does give you alot more control options.

You could even put the Wiimote, flight sticks, racing wheels and arcade pads in for good measure.

Forza_2

Did you read my post at all? Really, I named two games that I know FOR SURE you can customize controls for on the 360. It's not that the controllers are incapable of customizing the control configuration.-Montauk-

[QUOTE="-Montauk-"]Did you read my post at all? Really, I named two games that I know FOR SURE you can customize controls for on the 360. It's not that the controllers are incapable of customizing the control configuration.Forza_2

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Well uh yea, PC does give you alot more control options.

You could even put the Wiimote, flight sticks, racing wheels and arcade pads in for good measure.

Forza_2

developers want to make their controls a standard
skrat_01

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]developers want to make their controls a standard
Forza_2

I think most missed the point. Forza is talking about how devs no longer offer full customization of controls in the games. Or Very, VERY few do.

When was the last time a game let you say "A is jump." "B is attack" and other things.

IF anything, you are lucky if devs will let you even have "options" to choost from. I'm not talking about "reverse X and Y axis on camera control or FPSes."

But say you don't want that RB button to reload, you have to choose from one of four options in Halo. What if those aren't to your liking though? (I want Melee for RS Press DAMMNIT! But I don't want to lose grenades on the left trigger!!)

You can't do that with most of today's games. I used to remember back then, a majority of games allowed you to map your buttons and put whatever you want on the buttons. It was a lot better than sticking to what devs force you, and in some cases of today's games I'd like that option much more, cause some devs just don't seem to get "controls" in games or I just don't like the use they give you.

I think most missed the point. Forza is talking about how devs no longer offer full customization of controls in the games. Or Very, VERY few do.

yoshi_64

i'm fine without too much choice for console controllers .. they're normally fine anyway

my wiimote works fine for the games i've been playing on the wii

and the 360 controller is great too

It is true that PC's have a wider range of controllers, but I do like what Nintendo are doing with MK:Wii and SSBB. They allow four different controller combo types, and one will boud to suit your needs.

Custom maping, though, is a thing which game developers need to embrace, as different people 'play' differently.

and the wiimote?

so basicly.. you want to feel like yopu are playing console games?

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Well uh yea, PC does give you alot more control options.

You could even put the Wiimote, flight sticks, racing wheels and arcade pads in for good measure.

Forza_2

That Saitek Cyborg concept looks good, But I bet the execution is half assed though. I've always disliked third party hardware save Logitech.FrozenLiquid

The only negative thing I heard from several reviews is that, the cable is a little short.

Also, I actually ordered mine from amazon and it should be getting here this week. I can't wait.

and the wiimote?

so basicly.. you want to feel like yopu are playing console games?

Always-Honest

Keyboard and mouse are good for all games but racing.michael098

oh really? they are good for fighters? schumps? flight games *flight games are attrocious on keyboard and mouse it is far easier to play them with an flight stick or controller* 2d side scrollers? keyboards suck are hardly acceptable for it.

SSBB says hello.dracula_16

wii mote drivers say hello

TC, you are right, you can also play with the PS3 controller now.hamidious

SSBB says hello.dracula_16

It is an advantage, but a very minor one. The consoles' controller options may be inferior, but they're still damn near perfect for almost every game. Switching the D-pad and analog stick is a cool feature, but it's not going to make or break a game.chutup

DMC4 for example. With Dante, I'd use the triggers and bumpers to change styles instead of weapons.

what a waste of your breath TC...or rather typing energy you are destined for.razu_gamer2

The analog sticks on the "PS2 controller" are much better than the ones on the "Rumble Pad 2".

And you write consoles as if you were referring to both the X360, the PS3 and the Wii, but you don't say nothing about the last one... I guess that means there isn't any controller similar to the Wii-remote that you can use on the PC, is there?

The analog sticks on the "PS2 controller" are much better than the ones on the "Rumble Pad 2".

And you write consoles as if you were referring to both the X360, the PS3 and the Wii, but you don't say nothing about the last one... I guess that means there isn't any controller similar to the Wii-remote that you can use on the PC, is there?

bruno_fmenedes

IF one has a wii then he can use the wii mote on his pc .

there are drivers available