Consoles aren't "trash."

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#101 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

No, that's not right at all.

I think consoles are worse than PC because PC developers produce better games than the consoles get. It has nothing to do with console developers giving me a good console port, or not.

LegatoSkyheart

And some people think consoles produce better games.

and yet you don't see anyone talking about Red Dead Redemption on a PC or Uncharted 2 on a PC or whatever.

Face it guys, The Big Blockbuster Hits will always be Magnified through Consoles and Never through a PC.

Final Fantasy 7, It's on PC, but no one ever associates to the PC when they think about it, only the PS1.

And how many people associate games like Half Life, Doom, or Starcraft with consoles?

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#103 LegatoSkyheart
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And how many people associate games like Half Life, Doom, or Starcraft with consoles?

Ly_the_Fairy

I know plenty that would associate Half-Life with the Orange Box on their 360's and Doom on the Sega 32X.

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#104 meetroid8
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Consolization doesn't actually refer to PC games becoming more like console games. It refers to the games being made more "streamlined" and shallow in order to garner more main stream appeal. Console games aren't inherently shallow, but many multiplats are.
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#105 YOYOigotAfro
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I see this exact ohrase come up alot here. "Consolized trash." And, I'm sorry, it's not true. Just because a console game is "inferior" (which is purley subjective anyways) to a PC game doesn't make it bad. Also, many people act like, because a game is on a console, it's instantly awful. Well, devs can develop games that are as "deep" or whatever as PC games, it's just a question of whether or not they decide to. I mean, I've played a game that is deeper and more complex than some PC games on a handheld.

I'm not saying consoles are better or whatever, but I am saying that they aren't the "trash" some people make them out to be. (And hey, as a change of pace, how about we don't talk about graphics for once?)

turtlethetaffer
crysis 2 was proof consolized garbage exist's.
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#106 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

And how many people associate games like Half Life, Doom, or Starcraft with consoles?

LegatoSkyheart

I know plenty that would associate Half-Life with the Orange Box on their 360's and Doom on the Sega 32X.

And counter strike?

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#107 YOYOigotAfro
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the original xbox is way better than ps3 or 360 people used to make fun of it because it got pc ports well those pc game's on xbox were less noobished/consolized garbage so games were funner.
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#109 jedikevin2
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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]Stringerboy

Well I just got modded for telling the truth, but what ev, you can't win them all I guess.

Your on 2 accounts? Did you just catch yourself talking in first person?

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#110 Puckhog04
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Such phrases come from insecure PC only fanboys, that's it. Ignore it.

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#111 WhiteKnight77
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

No Consoles aren't Trash at all.

PC Elitist think that because developers aren't giving them special treatment.

VanDammFan

DING DING DING...you got it..thing is consoles drive our gaming entertainment..NEVER let a pcelitist tell you different.

Now use your imagination here a minute. Let's say that PCs did not exist. Do you think consoles would exist? The fact is, without PCs, console gaming would not exist. There would be no way to create a console game nor would there be hardware for consoles themselves. PCs also push console hardware development. If they did not, one would still be playing Pong instead of MW2 or a Madden game or any other console game.

The only way that consoles will ever replace a PC is when consoles get better controls and software that allow for content creation and that will not happen for a very long time, if ever. If it does, then that means that console gaming is that much more like PC gaming which throws the normal arguments for console gaming even further out of the window, even more so than it does now.

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#112 wis3boi
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[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]jedikevin2

Well I just got modded for telling the truth, but what ev, you can't win them all I guess.

Your on 2 accounts? Did you just catch yourself talking in first person?

Oh wow, this is gold :D
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#113 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

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#114 wis3boi
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Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

XVision84
Except PC has more exclusives than either one, and either way, that doesnt make one platform better than another
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#115 WhiteKnight77
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Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

XVision84

Not necessarily. I know one game that will be PC exclusive and if it does make it to a console, it will not change to suit the console except for the controls. It will play the same way as the PC version. I don't really care about Gears 3 or Uncharted 3 one bit, not my type of games.

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#116 Bebi_vegeta
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Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

XVision84

It's not like there's anything stoping us from buying a console if it was that good...

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#117 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"][This message was deleted at the request of a moderator or administrator]jedikevin2

Well I just got modded for telling the truth, but what ev, you can't win them all I guess.

Your on 2 accounts? Did you just catch yourself talking in first person?

Busted :lol:
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#118 millerlight89
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Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

XVision84
Nothing is stopping me from buying a console if I wanted those games ;). Remember we can afford PC gaming because it is o so expensive, what is a couple hundred for a console ?
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#119 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

And how many people associate games like Half Life, Doom, or Starcraft with consoles?

LegatoSkyheart

I know plenty that would associate Half-Life with the Orange Box on their 360's and Doom on the Sega 32X.

Oh right, and I know plenty of people who would associate games like FF7 and MGS with the PC.

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#120 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

wis3boi

Except PC has more exclusives than either one, and either way, that doesnt make one platform better than another

Usually the word "consolized trash" is used when PC gamers are mad that a game is going on consoles, or consolized.

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#121 LegatoSkyheart
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[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

And how many people associate games like Half Life, Doom, or Starcraft with consoles?

Ly_the_Fairy

I know plenty that would associate Half-Life with the Orange Box on their 360's and Doom on the Sega 32X.

Oh right, and I know plenty of people who would associate games like FF7 and MGS with the PC.

How dem Game of the Years coming along?

Uncharted 2, Red Dead Redemption, Demon Souls....All on PC right?

Oh and didn't Valve say that Left 4 Dead sold more on Consoles?

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#123 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

WhiteKnight77

Not necessarily. I know one game that will be PC exclusive and if it does make it to a console, it will not change to suit the console except for the controls. It will play the same way as the PC version. I don't really care about Gears 3 or Uncharted 3 one bit, not my type of games.

There are many games like that, but when consoles are usually called trash by PC gamers who are angry that a game is coming to consoles (ex: battlefield 3 coming to consoles brought lots of "consolization" theories).

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#124 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="jedikevin2"]

[QUOTE="Stringerboy"]

Well I just got modded for telling the truth, but what ev, you can't win them all I guess.

Stringerboy

Your on 2 accounts? Did you just catch yourself talking in first person?

lol no. I would never resort to owning multiple accounts, that is for the weak minded and people who can't accept ownage :P

My internet psychological degree says that you are lying because there is a smily face at the end of this post.

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#125 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

millerlight89

Nothing is stopping me from buying a console if I wanted those games ;). Remember we can afford PC gaming because it is o so expensive, what is a couple hundred for a console ?

That's the best way to game, owning multiple platforms gives you the best experience ;)

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#127 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

I know plenty that would associate Half-Life with the Orange Box on their 360's and Doom on the Sega 32X.

LegatoSkyheart

Oh right, and I know plenty of people who would associate games like FF7 and MGS with the PC.

How dem Game of the Years coming along?

Uncharted 2, Red Dead Redemption, Demon Souls....All on PC right?

Oh and didn't Valve say that Left 4 Dead sold more on Consoles?

Oh no! GOTY at Gamespot! The end-all be-all of gaming websites!

And who cares where L4D sold more? Not sure why you brought that up.

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#128 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

Haters gonna hate, them PC fanboys are just mad cause they losin their exclusives and they can't play Gears 3 and Uncharted 3.

XVision84

Nothing is stopping me from buying a console if I wanted those games ;). Remember we can afford PC gaming because it is o so expensive, what is a couple hundred for a console ?

That's the best way to game, owning multiple platforms gives you the best experience ;)

Not if you aren't interested in those other platforms.
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#129 Ly_the_Fairy
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Nothing is stopping me from buying a console if I wanted those games ;). Remember we can afford PC gaming because it is o so expensive, what is a couple hundred for a console ? millerlight89

That's the best way to game, owning multiple platforms gives you the best experience ;)

Not if you aren't interested in those other platforms.

Being an informed shopper > wasting money

There is a handful of games I'd play if I had a 360 or a Wii, and I'll play them if I get the chance, but I will not pay $200 to buy hardware to play them. Instead I'll take that $200+ and get way more PC games with that money than I would have gotten 360 or Wii games.

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#130 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Nothing is stopping me from buying a console if I wanted those games ;). Remember we can afford PC gaming because it is o so expensive, what is a couple hundred for a console ? millerlight89

That's the best way to game, owning multiple platforms gives you the best experience ;)

Not if you aren't interested in those other platforms.

If you aren't interested in other platforms, then there's no point in calling another platform "trash" because one of the exclusives on the platform you're playing on is going to said "trash" platform.

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#131 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

That's the best way to game, owning multiple platforms gives you the best experience ;)

Ly_the_Fairy

Not if you aren't interested in those other platforms.

Being an informed shopper > wasting money

There is a handful of games I'd play if I had a 360 or a Wii, and I'll play them if I get the chance, but I will not pay $200 to buy hardware to play them. Instead I'll take that $200+ and get way more PC games with that money than I would have gotten 360 or Wii games.

It's like most people on this forum are like, "You aren't getting the best experience if you don't own all.: That's just complete BS :P. I have owned all at once, I wasn't enjoying the consoles, so I stick with PC because that's what I know I love playing on. So awesome to be gaming one moment and alt-tabbing out and doing some work in Excel. I mean, why should I buy something that I know I won't play..just to have it? PC gamers are the devil when we look down on consoles, but it is fine for HD owners to look down on Wii. I just don't get it, nor do I really care to :P
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#132 Pug-Nasty
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Playing some PC games like Crysis and The Witcher II, which are supposed to be great games, make me take the words of PC elitists with a grain of salt. These games just aren't any better, and are in many ways worse, than the great console games I've played.

I am not judging the entirety of the PC library based on my experience with these games, and I'm sure there are lots of great PC games, but I am just bouncing comments made about these games against comments made about console games by certain people.

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#133 millerlight89
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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="XVision84"]

That's the best way to game, owning multiple platforms gives you the best experience ;)

XVision84

Not if you aren't interested in those other platforms.

If you aren't interested in other platforms, then there's no point in calling another platform "trash" because one of the exclusives on the platform you're playing on is going to said "trash" platform.

What does that have to do with anything? My original post in this thread claimed I though consoles WEREN"T trash.
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#134 jedikevin2
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If you aren't interested in other platforms, then there's no point in calling another platform "trash" because one of the exclusives on the platform you're playing on is going to said "trash" platform.

XVision84

Um... wooo.. out of context a bit there... People stating "consolized trash" are not talking about the platform but a game specifically. For example, a couple years ago, I saw someone call supreme commander 2 "consolized trash" because they took out graphical options, took out many k/m options, took out map editor and lowered the graphics compared to 1. They were not calling other platforms trash but that the game. This is what i've seen when peolpe throw out "consolized trash" Still not a good statement to make but its just what i've seen in SW.

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#135 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

[QUOTE="millerlight89"] Not if you aren't interested in those other platforms. millerlight89

If you aren't interested in other platforms, then there's no point in calling another platform "trash" because one of the exclusives on the platform you're playing on is going to said "trash" platform.

What does that have to do with anything? My original post in this thread claimed I though consoles WEREN"T trash.

This had to do with what the TC said, it wasn't really directed at you. I said owning all consoles are good, you said that someone might not be interested in other platforms, and then I said that nobody should call another platform trash because an exclusive is heading towards that platform. Sorry, wasn't talking about you specifically :)

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#136 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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[QUOTE="XVision84"]

If you aren't interested in other platforms, then there's no point in calling another platform "trash" because one of the exclusives on the platform you're playing on is going to said "trash" platform.

jedikevin2

Um... wooo.. out of context a bit there... People stating "consolized trash" are not talking about the platform but a game specifically. For example, a couple years ago, I saw someone call supreme commander 2 "consolized trash" because they took out graphical options, took out many k/m options, took out map editor and lowered the graphics compared to 1. They were not calling other platforms trash but that the game. This is what i've seen when peolpe throw out "consolized trash" Still not a good statement to make but its just what i've seen in SW.

Depends, sometimes it's only the game being bashed, but other times people insult both the game and the platform. I've seen many cases (ex: Battlefield 3) where a game is PC exclusive and is heading to consoles, and they call the game consolized while insulting said console and its userbase for being simpletons. A lot of PC gamers believe that PC gaming is the only way to go, and anything else is just a cheap, worthless alternative.