Consolites must feel proud: they have singlehandidly brought down the PC

[QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Good. Now hurry up and die already. I'm tired of listening to you whiners. It seems like thats all you guys do these days...scoobiesnackarf

You make it sounds like he give a damn to play the ''inferior'' version of a game. If he'd want the superior version he'd just upgrade is PC. You sure seem affected a lot like TC bro.

Oh btw, gotta love PCers throwing a fit and blaming gamers. God i love SW.

[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"][QUOTE="dr-venkman"]Good. Now hurry up and die already. I'm tired of listening to you whiners. It seems like thats all you guys do these days...archvile_78

You make it sounds like he give a damn to play the ''inferior'' version of a game. If he'd want the superior version he'd just upgrade is PC. You sure seem affected a lot like TC bro.

Oh btw, gotta love PCers throwing a fit and blaming gamers. God i love SW.

You can try to refute this by posting scores, sales figures, supposed pirating numbers; nevertheless,

the facts remain that you are singlehandidly killing the PC market one sheepish purchase at a time.

scoobiesnackarf

Thanks to you consolites, the PC quality of games is now experiencing this:

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

That's the counterpoint? The minority of PC gamers are always going to be paranoid of it happening, it's human nature, and they likely know little else.

These topics are created, doesn't make the point any more realistic.

lundy86_4

So you're saying that the TC doesn't know what he's talking about and he is just the 'minority'.

Why would they just randomly be paranoid of it happening? For all we know, it starts with Modern Warfare 2 and Rage, and continues to other games. Look at Crysis; one of the PCs highest scoring games. It's sequel is being put on consoles. Now why would Crytek do such a thing?

Are you saying every single person thinks exactly the same thing at the same time? If so, then yes, everybody must be terrified of the PC becoming consolized. However we don't, therefore just because some people are annoyed/scared of it happening, ahrdly means the majority are.

Multiplats are happening to all systems, from PS3 to 360 and vice versa, from PS3/360 to PC and some vice versa. It's money, it's business. As costs to develop increase, so must what the devs are earning from the game, a la multiplat is one way to solve this. Reaching a wider audience holds the possibility of increasing revenue.

What would the point of them going multiplat if the PC has a larger gaming install base than all 3 consoles combined? Sure, they get more money, but they must have seen another reason to suddenly make the jump to consoles. The only games that will probably stay on the PC are RTS's and MMO's, since they work better on there since there are more keys. The PC will probably just become a multiplat platform aside from those 2 genres

Thanks to you consolites, the PC quality of games is now experiencing this:scoobiesnackarf

Thanks to you consolites, the PC quality of games is now experiencing this:

scoobiesnackarf

So you're saying PC gaming is dead?

[QUOTE="archvile_78"]

[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"] I would say that you are a whiner. It must hurt knowing that up until now you never played the best version of games that also appeared on the PC. Just imagine, you were paying $10 more for a game that was worse. Congratulations. You are obviously one of the reasons that mediocrity has flown from console owners to PC games.scoobiesnackarf

You make it sounds like he give a damn to play the ''inferior'' version of a game. If he'd want the superior version he'd just upgrade is PC. You sure seem affected a lot like TC bro.

Oh btw, gotta love PCers throwing a fit and blaming gamers. God i love SW.

Gladly taking the congratulations, if that can make PCers complaining then hell i'll just stick to what apparently killed the PC and will simply enjoy the childish drama they try to start. Makes me question if the PCers aren't the worst kind of fanboys...but oh well doesn't matter i don't like any kind of fanboy. By the way i didn't knew one game caused the PC gaming to die, pretty funny you know.

[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]

Thanks to you consolites, the PC quality of games is now experiencing this:

BPoole96

So you're saying PC gaming is dead?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

So you're saying that the TC doesn't know what he's talking about and he is just the 'minority'.

Why would they just randomly be paranoid of it happening? For all we know, it starts with Modern Warfare 2 and Rage, and continues to other games. Look at Crysis; one of the PCs highest scoring games. It's sequel is being put on consoles. Now why would Crytek do such a thing?

BPoole96

Are you saying every single person thinks exactly the same thing at the same time? If so, then yes, everybody must be terrified of the PC becoming consolized. However we don't, therefore just because some people are annoyed/scared of it happening, ahrdly means the majority are.

Multiplats are happening to all systems, from PS3 to 360 and vice versa, from PS3/360 to PC and some vice versa. It's money, it's business. As costs to develop increase, so must what the devs are earning from the game, a la multiplat is one way to solve this. Reaching a wider audience holds the possibility of increasing revenue.

What would the point of them going multiplat if the PC has a larger gaming install base than all 3 consoles combined? Sure, they get more money, but they must have seen another reason to suddenly make the jump to consoles. The only games that will probably stay on the PC are RTS's and MMO's, since they work better on there since there are more keys. The PC will probably just become a multiplat platform aside from those 2 genres

Like I said, it's still money. More money is better, it's pretty simple. Why did MS branch into making consoles when they make a KILLING on their OS software, plus office suites? Lucrative business.

It'll still have it's exclusives, no doubt, but not as many. The consoles have companies to try and force exclusives (hence 1st party development, a huge undertaking by Sony this gen). PC does not have this, and only has devs that stay there because they want to be there, they have choice.

A lot of smaller indie devs are also filling the cracks now that digital distribution is coming more into the mainstream. Many smaller devs did not have the means to release a game via disc, as it was harder for them to find a publisher to do so.

Consolites = the Ewoks

PC gamers = the Empire

*throws rocks at PC gamers*

Congratulations consolites,

You sould feel proud. Due to your acceptance of mediocrity you have now brought the death of the best system of all, the PC.

Now that companies have seen they can treat you for the sheep that you are, buying anything and everything, including DLC codes,

attrocious multiplayer gameplay, etc... they have now moved on to treat the PC gamers the same. So not only have you allowed yourselves

to be treated as dogs you have now spread the disease of mediocrity to those who since the inception of gaming itself have refused

to become sheep. The likes of Activision, Infinity Ward, ID Software, etc... have now replicated the mediocrity they put on you year in and year out

onto those who demand better; PC gamers. You can try to refute this by posting scores, sales figures, supposed pirating numbers; nevertheless,

the facts remain that you are singlehandidly killing the PC market one sheepish purchase at a time.

scoobiesnackarf

yes we all are proud.. it took us time and lots of effort but in the end we reached our goal...You know what they say 'if you cant beat them...hhmm'

Or else you could just move on and quit whining and blaiming console gamers for everything that happens to PC gaming..

Sequel to your post.

Its up to Crytek to stave off mediocrity...though with announcements of Crysis 2 being multiplat...our future is unsure.

Crytek is our last hope.

K

It's on its way thanks to consolites, yes. The way things are going now, PC gamers will just get the trash thrown from the feet of its future masters. Thanks alot.scoobiesnackarf

Why do people think PC gamers were first, arcades were first, you dont see them **** about console games being better.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

lundy86_4

Like I said, it's still money. More money is better, it's pretty simple. Why did MS branch into making consoles when they make a KILLING on their OS software, plus office suites? Lucrative business.

It'll still have it's exclusives, no doubt, but not as many. The consoles have companies to try and force exclusives (hence 1st party development, a huge undertaking by Sony this gen). PC does not have this, and only has devs that stay there because they want to be there, they have choice.

A lot of smaller indie devs are also filling the cracks now that digital distribution is coming more into the mainstream. Many smaller devs did not have the means to release a game via disc, as it was harder for them to find a publisher to do so.

So the PC is weakening in the exclusive department and dev support due to consoles? Sure it's money, but as gamers, how much money the devs make does not matter. Look at all the bashing the PS3 got when it lost Tekken, DMC, Resident Evil 5, etc. as exclusives.

Sure, Capcom and Namco may have made more money, but it still weakened the PS3. Luckily, Sony has 1st party developers that cannot go multiplat. The PC does not have this luxury. It will probably just lose exclusive after exclusive with nothing to fall back on.

[QUOTE="drakecool1"]

I think it's mostly hackers downloading games that brought down the PC

fail_baby

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]

Thanks to you consolites, the PC quality of games is now experiencing this:

scoobiesnackarf

So you're saying PC gaming is dead?

You're very welcome sir. Enjoy

[QUOTE="scoobiesnackarf"]

It's on its way thanks to consolites, yes. The way things are going now, PC gamers will just get the trash thrown from the feet of its future masters. Thanks alot.PannicAtack

So the PC is weakening in the exclusive department and dev support due to consoles? Sure it's money, but as gamers, how much money the devs make does not matter. Look at all the bashing the PS3 got when it lost Tekken, DMC, Resident Evil 5, etc. as exclusives.

Sure, Capcom and Namco may have made more money, but it still weakened the PS3. Luckily, Sony has 1st party developers that cannot go multiplat. The PC does not have this luxury. It will probably just lose exclusive after exclusive with nothing to fall back on.

BPoole96

I'm sure consoles play a part, but they are not the sole reason. Anyways like I said, there are many more indie devs now coming out due to DD. So it's not necessarily losing exclusives, it's also picking some up.

Also, there are still companies heavily invested into the PC scene, such as Valve. Anyways, as we all know, it's not solely about exclusives. Exclusives are used on consoles to get individuals to buy said console. Multiplats on top of exclusives will still work just fine.

Maybe if PC gamers actually payed for their games once in awhile...

*runs*

Maybe if PC gamers actually payed for their games once in awhile...

*runs*

EliteKitteh

Maybe if PC gamers actually payed for their games once in awhile...

*runs*

EliteKitteh

Don't generalize.

Yes, piracy is a problem. No, not all PC gamer's do it.

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

Maybe if PC gamers actually payed for their games once in awhile...

*runs*

lundy86_4

Don't generalize.

Yes, piracy is a problem. No, not all PC gamer's do it.

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="EliteKitteh"]

Maybe if PC gamers actually payed for their games once in awhile...

*runs*

treedoor

Don't generalize.

Yes, piracy is a problem. No, not all PC gamer's do it.

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Don't generalize.

Yes, piracy is a problem. No, not all PC gamer's do it.

lundy86_4

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

Congratulations consolites,

You sould feel proud. Due to your acceptance of mediocrity you have now brought the death of the best system of all, the PC.

Now that companies have seen they can treat you for the sheep that you are, buying anything and everything, including DLC codes,

attrocious multiplayer gameplay, etc... they have now moved on to treat the PC gamers the same. So not only have you allowed yourselves

to be treated as dogs you have now spread the disease of mediocrity to those who since the inception of gaming itself have refused

to become sheep. The likes of Activision, Infinity Ward, ID Software, etc... have now replicated the mediocrity they put on you year in and year out

onto those who demand better; PC gamers. You can try to refute this by posting scores, sales figures, supposed pirating numbers; nevertheless,

the facts remain that you are singlehandidly killing the PC market one sheepish purchase at a time.

All that the recent controversy and outcry has shown that there is no difference between console and pc players. Whereas I thought the petition was a good thing the conduct of PC gamers on various forums has been pretty emberassing. Its easily comparable to reactions that the console forums saw when for example FF was announced for 360 or when pretty much any debate over graphic superiority on a console rages. What makes me utterly sick is the people on the IW forums saying they will or are pirating the game. Thats just not only counter productive but also so transparent. Its just pirates using something bad that has happend to the PC community to justify stealing the game. This sort of behaviour was frowned upon by PC gamers...till now I guess.

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Don't generalize.

Yes, piracy is a problem. No, not all PC gamer's do it.

lundy86_4

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

dc337

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

dc337

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

dc337

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

Undoubtedly because it's an open system. However the misconception that the majority of PC gamers pirate is an asinine one/

you are over reacting to two games, rage and modern warfare 2.CaptainHarley

[QUOTE="CaptainHarley"]

you are over reacting to two games, rage and modern warfare 2.hot114

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"]

And yes 360 owners were the first ones pirating MW2

PC pirates are blamed

dc337

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

We want numbers please!

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

Bebi_vegeta

We want numbers please!

You know that I can leave my house and return 2h later with a modded 360 and a bag full of games? I dont know what the situation is in America but in Europe it is in fact quicker and easier to pirate console games. I left the life of a pirate years ago but a majority no wait someone will want numbers...alot of eurpoean console players pirate games and mod their consoles.

I really don't like the direction gaming is heading - DLC, motion controls, QTEs, P2P online, context sensitive actions, simplified and slowed down gameplay, presentation over gameplay etc. It's still pretty good, right now I'm loving DAO, but even that is trying to shove DLC down my throat, I can only imagine what gaming will be like next gen.

What really bugs me is that we now have the technology to make wonderful games with endless possibilities, but because majority of gaming crowd are 12-year old ADD kids we get 5 hour linear frag fests that you can complete by pressing a single button at the right time. And that's the good scenario, now they're targeting non-gamers.

Anyway, there will still be games with depth, dedicated servers and free patches, they just won't be those blockbuster budget titles.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Yep that's also true. Didn't Microsoft also give the bahammer to around 600,000 individuals recently, targeting gamers with modded 360's?

treedoor

[QUOTE="treedoor"][QUOTE="dc337"] It's piracy rates that matter, and pc rates are through the roof compared to the 360.

dc337

And where did they get thoses numbers? It's funny they never give the source or how they got thoses numbers... the guy is talking about sales, and with thoses numbers (compared to consoles) he can magicaly extract the percentage of pirated games.

And best part is, apparently they implemented security checks in the game that made it crash at certain points... hence giving the game a bad reputation. So who would buy a crashed game?

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="treedoor"] Proof?Bebi_vegeta

And where did they get thoses numbers?

And where did they get thoses numbers? It's funny they never give the source or how they got thoses numbers...Bebi_vegeta

Don't you just find it hilarious when hermits pretend PC piracy isn't over the roof just becasue we technically can't post sources like torrent sites and such?

It's ok, you still have WoW, nancy drew, and the Sims expansions.