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#51 The_RedLion
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You do know the single player is done, right? dreman999
I doubt that
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#52 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

Then they can use that extra time to polish the numerous bugs that will be present (they were there last time they will be here this time).

And why keep it separate? It will be like we have two separate games.

PS: Have you ever criticized ME? It's a great series, but it's far from perfect and you seem to be the only person who thinks it's perfect. You are allowed to criticize.

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1. You never play horde mode in gears? Thing like an omega fight club or Pinnacle station with fit right with it. 2.I never said it was perfect. It has it's problem like character who are LI are cut short to people who don't go into a relationship with them. It has no standing subquest aka make them like overlord. It need more banter. We need to use more powers at once.And the game need a pinnacle station/fight club. Also, Omega needs to be bigger.

Ya I remember the last time Bioware attempted a Horde like mission/mode, it was terrible.

But the fact remain that it had nothing to do with the mode. It was that the combat engine what that bad. ME1's combat is slow, staggering and off balance. ME2 fixed that and ME3 vastly improved ME2's combat. So the combat engine will not be the problem this time. If they do mp and it's PvE, It will be fine, because PvE is easy. PvP on the other hand is complex.
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#53 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"]You do know the single player is done, right? The_RedLion
I doubt that

It is. The planning and details are done. The environment are finished. ME3 is just on the cutting room floor. All that's left is combat and balancing. Right now BW is going onto BSN and taking suggest on how to improve classes from players. This is the last detail the need. That and what ever extra story lines they are recording.
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#54 Kickinurass
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Any co-op is better than no co-op. I'd prefer campaign co-op myself, but I'll take whatever. those handful of missions better be amazing though.

It's not like you have to touch the multiplayer aspect anyway, so I don't know why everyone is crying foul. Considering most of this board is always talking about the freedom to choose in some way or another.

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#55 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="dreman999"]You do know the single player is done, right? dreman999
I doubt that

It is. The planning and details are done. The environment are finished. ME3 is just on the cutting room floor. All that's left is combat and balancing. Right now BW is going onto BSN and taking suggest on how to improve classes from players. This is the last detail the need. That and what ever extra story lines they are recording.

where are you getting your info from?
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#56 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] I doubt thatThe_RedLion
It is. The planning and details are done. The environment are finished. ME3 is just on the cutting room floor. All that's left is combat and balancing. Right now BW is going onto BSN and taking suggest on how to improve classes from players. This is the last detail the need. That and what ever extra story lines they are recording.

where are you getting your info from?

Bioware Social Network...... It's biowares main forum.
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[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"] 1. You never play horde mode in gears? Thing like an omega fight club or Pinnacle station with fit right with it. 2.I never said it was perfect. It has it's problem like character who are LI are cut short to people who don't go into a relationship with them. It has no standing subquest aka make them like overlord. It need more banter. We need to use more powers at once.And the game need a pinnacle station/fight club. Also, Omega needs to be bigger.dreman999

Ya I remember the last time Bioware attempted a Horde like mission/mode, it was terrible.

But the fact remain that it had nothing to do with the mode. It was that the combat engine what that bad. ME1's combat is slow, staggering and off balance. ME2 fixed that and ME3 vastly improved ME2's combat. So the combat engine will not be the problem this time. If they do mp and it's PvE, It will be fine, because PvE is easy. PvP on the other hand is complex.

I'd say creating worthwhile PVE is rather harder than beta testing your PVP to success. There's a reason why there's MP in every single game these days.

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#58 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="dreman999"] It is. The planning and details are done. The environment are finished. ME3 is just on the cutting room floor. All that's left is combat and balancing. Right now BW is going onto BSN and taking suggest on how to improve classes from players. This is the last detail the need. That and what ever extra story lines they are recording.dreman999
where are you getting your info from?

Bioware Social Network...... It's biowares main forum.

can you post a link? to the specific thread where they say all that :)
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#59 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] where are you getting your info from?The_RedLion
Bioware Social Network...... It's biowares main forum.

can you post a link? to the specific thread where they say all that :)

Here's one for q&a for Infliltrator improvement for ME3.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/7376531/1

Here's the ME3 knowned feature thread.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7649262

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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="dreman999"] It is. The planning and details are done. The environment are finished. ME3 is just on the cutting room floor. All that's left is combat and balancing. Right now BW is going onto BSN and taking suggest on how to improve classes from players. This is the last detail the need. That and what ever extra story lines they are recording.dreman999
where are you getting your info from?

Bioware Social Network...... It's biowares main forum.

I would like to see it, trying to find out a lot of info of this so called 4 played co op mode.

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#62 The_RedLion
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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Bioware Social Network...... It's biowares main forum.dreman999

can you post a link? to the specific thread where they say all that :)

Here's one for q&a for Infliltrator improvement for ME3.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/7376531/1

Here's the ME3 knowned feature thread.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7649262

would you be so nice and point out where do they say all that about the sp being done?
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Keep the co-op out of the campaign. If you want multiplay, make sure it has nothing to do with single player.dreman999
Why? :question: It's not like they can force you to play coop.
I agree. How the hell would you add co-op into the middle of a game like Mass Effect? When you get the parts where you're just walking around talking to NPCs and buying gear.... that'd be kind of boring for your partner. MrSelf-Destruct
I would need work, but it's definitely possible. Coop RPGs are nothing new. They could also go a step further than any coop game and let the two players interact in the conversations, maybe even argue, etc.
And I'd have a hard time getting immersed into the story with some idiot running around me and likely shouting profanities his mic. Not to mention the bedroom scenes would be down right *awkward* :P MrSelf-Destruct
That's why you coop it with a bro. Or don't coop it at all.
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#66 DarkLink77
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Well, Mass Effect is officially dead.

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#67 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] where are you getting your info from?HaloPimp978

Bioware Social Network...... It's biowares main forum.

I would like to see it, trying to find out a lot of info of this so called 4 played co op mode.

Wait.....Wait. Co-op is not confirmed at all. BW is silent on this right now. In nothing but SP BW is talking about.
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#68 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] can you post a link? to the specific thread where they say all that :)The_RedLion

Here's one for q&a for Infliltrator improvement for ME3.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/261/index/7376531/1

Here's the ME3 knowned feature thread.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/323/index/7649262

would you be so nice and point out where do they say all that about the sp being done?

This is in a topic deep in the borad. In not going out of may way to find it. Just note that they are currently focusing on the combat. That's not fully developed until the SP is planned out.
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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="dreman999"] I would need work, but it's definitely possible. Coop RPGs are nothing new. They could also go a step further than any coop game and let the two players interact in the conversations, maybe even argue, etc.
And I'd have a hard time getting immersed into the story with some idiot running around me and likely shouting profanities his mic. Not to mention the bedroom scenes would be down right *awkward* :P MrSelf-Destruct
That's why you coop it with a bro. Or don't coop it at all.

Why? They would have to cut dialogue and choice in story for a campaign MP game.
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#71 dreman999
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Well, Mass Effect is officially dead.

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Wait? It wasn't dead to you before?
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#72 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Well, Mass Effect is officially dead.

dreman999
Wait? It wasn't dead to you before?

I had some hope. And then BioWare crushed it.
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Why? They would have to cut dialogue and choice in story for a campaign MP game.dreman999
Why would they *have* to do that?
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I had some hope. And then BioWare crushed it.DarkLink77
1+ reason to like BioWare for me :3
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I had some hope. And then BioWare crushed it.IronBass
1+ reason to like BioWare for me :3

Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.
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#76 padaporra
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I would love to see a co-op, but not like this. A horde mode would be fantastic though.

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Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.DarkLink77
The next Dragon Age?
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.IronBass
The next Dragon Age?

Not as long as BioWare is making it.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.IronBass
The next Dragon Age?

.

Maybe the next Duke Nuken.

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Well as long as it doesn't effect the SP, I don't care I guess.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.padaporra

The next Dragon Age?

Maybe the next Duke Nuken.

If it's good.

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Why are people against co op? If you don't like it, cool. Some of us do.

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#83 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Well, Mass Effect is officially dead.

DarkLink77
Wait? It wasn't dead to you before?

I had some hope. And then BioWare crushed it.

So you gain hope when they confirmed weopon mods and branching rpg element. But an unconfirmed rumor about MP dashes your hopes. Even though this may be miss information and is confused for another ME game they are making?
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Boring. If they really wanted to add coop, they should have added it to the main campaign.IronBass
Co-op can work great separate from the main quest. See Uncharted, Portal 2, Splinter Cell etc.
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Why are people against co op? If you don't like it, cool. Some of us do.

ROFLCOPTER603

Because the ME games have been singleplayer the entire time. I don't think people hate the idea of coop/mp in ME, just the main trilogy that follows Shepard. At least that's how I want it.

But the fact remain that it had nothing to do with the mode. It was that the combat engine what that bad. ME1's combat is slow, staggering and off balance. ME2 fixed that and ME3 vastly improved ME2's combat. So the combat engine will not be the problem this time. If they do mp and it's PvE, It will be fine, because PvE is easy. PvP on the other hand is complex.dreman999

It had nothing to with the combat system, I got through the rest of the game enjoying it, it was the fact that Pinnacle Station was just bad. Nothing else to it.

And if the coop has nothing to do with the singleplayer, then why add it?

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#86 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Wait? It wasn't dead to you before?

I had some hope. And then BioWare crushed it.

So you gain hope when they confirmed weopon mods and branching rpg element. But an unconfirmed rumor about MP dashes your hopes. Even though this may be miss information and is confused for another ME game they are making?

Maybe. I still have serious doubts though, and I'm not going to get the game for anything above $20 anyway. BioWare has lost my day one support. And anyway, this is the video game industry. Rumors/leaks are generally true.
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[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Why are people against co op? If you don't like it, cool. Some of us do.

EliteM0nk3y

Because the ME games have been singleplayer the entire time. I don't think people hate the idea of coop/mp in ME, just the main trilogy that follows Shepard. At least that's how I want it.

But the fact remain that it had nothing to do with the mode. It was that the combat engine what that bad. ME1's combat is slow, staggering and off balance. ME2 fixed that and ME3 vastly improved ME2's combat. So the combat engine will not be the problem this time. If they do mp and it's PvE, It will be fine, because PvE is easy. PvP on the other hand is complex.dreman999

It had nothing to with the combat system, I got through the rest of the game enjoying it, it was the fact that Pinnacle Station was just bad. Nothing else to it.

And if the coop has nothing to do with the singleplayer, then why add it?

You kidding be. ME1 combat was the worst part of it. The fact that BW redid everything from scratch for ME2 for combat is a clear indication that ME1 combat is bad.
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#88 dreman999
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I had some hope. And then BioWare crushed it.

So you gain hope when they confirmed weopon mods and branching rpg element. But an unconfirmed rumor about MP dashes your hopes. Even though this may be miss information and is confused for another ME game they are making?

Maybe. I still have serious doubts though, and I'm not going to get the game for anything above $20 anyway. BioWare has lost my day one support. And anyway, this is the video game industry. Rumors/leaks are generally true.

Please. You'll buy it at launch with the rest of us.
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#89 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dreman999"] So you gain hope when they confirmed weopon mods and branching rpg element. But an unconfirmed rumor about MP dashes your hopes. Even though this may be miss information and is confused for another ME game they are making?

Maybe. I still have serious doubts though, and I'm not going to get the game for anything above $20 anyway. BioWare has lost my day one support. And anyway, this is the video game industry. Rumors/leaks are generally true.

Please. You'll buy it at launch with the rest of us.

No, I won't actually. It'll be really easy to do. I have no hype for it, and BioWare's disappointed me twice in a row. Their days of getting $60 from me are over.
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#90 EliteM0nk3y
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[QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

[QUOTE="ROFLCOPTER603"]

Because the ME games have been singleplayer the entire time. I don't think people hate the idea of coop/mp in ME, just the main trilogy that follows Shepard. At least that's how I want it.

[QUOTE="dreman999"]But the fact remain that it had nothing to do with the mode. It was that the combat engine what that bad. ME1's combat is slow, staggering and off balance. ME2 fixed that and ME3 vastly improved ME2's combat. So the combat engine will not be the problem this time. If they do mp and it's PvE, It will be fine, because PvE is easy. PvP on the other hand is complex.dreman999

It had nothing to with the combat system, I got through the rest of the game enjoying it, it was the fact that Pinnacle Station was just bad. Nothing else to it.

And if the coop has nothing to do with the singleplayer, then why add it?

You kidding be. ME1 combat was the worst part of it. The fact that BW redid everything from scratch for ME2 for combat is a clear indication that ME1 combat is bad.

I never said the combat system was good, but the fact that I was able to enjoy the rest of the game fine shows to me that Pinnacle Station was a waste. I got only for the achievements (and it was cheap I think like $1 or something). Pinnacle Station was uninspiring, boring, and a cheap cash grab.

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[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I had some hope. And then BioWare crushed it.DarkLink77
1+ reason to like BioWare for me :3

Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.

Chocolate covered gold isn't widely available. Outside of that, nothing will be better.
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#92 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="IronBass"] 1+ reason to like BioWare for me :3

Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.

Chocolate covered gold isn't widely available. Outside of that, nothing will be better.

The number of games that are better than the games in the Mass Effect series is so large that listing all of them wouldn't be worth my time. They're poor as third person shooters and even worse as RPGs.
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How 'bout coop romances?
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Maybe. I still have serious doubts though, and I'm not going to get the game for anything above $20 anyway. BioWare has lost my day one support. And anyway, this is the video game industry. Rumors/leaks are generally true.

Please. You'll buy it at launch with the rest of us.

No, I won't actually. It'll be really easy to do. I have no hype for it, and BioWare's disappointed me twice in a row. Their days of getting $60 from me are over.

amen to that man..
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How 'bout coop romances? AAllxxjjnn
Threesomes in Mass Effect 3 confirmed. Aw, YEAH! 8)
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]How 'bout coop romances? DarkLink77
Threesomes in Mass Effect 3 confirmed. Aw, YEAH! 8)

Now that I wouldn't mind :P

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#97 DarthBilf
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="DarthBilf"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Meh, I'll just spend my money on something better.

Chocolate covered gold isn't widely available. Outside of that, nothing will be better.

The number of games that are better than the games in the Mass Effect series is so large that listing all of them wouldn't be worth my time. They're poor as third person shooters and even worse as RPGs.

It's a mistake to attempt to pigeonhole it like that. I would disagree, and say that its an above average shooter, and while ME2 took the "streamlining" of the RPG elements too far, it appears that ME3 will strike the perfect balance between the bad RPG mechanics of 1 and the nonexistent mechanics of 2. However, as a whole, the experience is greater than the sum of its parts. It is an engaging universe with excellent characters, a solid story, and no debilitating gameplay weaknesses.
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#98 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]How 'bout coop romances? DarkLink77
Threesomes in Mass Effect 3 confirmed. Aw, YEAH! 8)

Foursomes dude!
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#99 dreman999
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[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="EliteM0nk3y"]

It had nothing to with the combat system, I got through the rest of the game enjoying it, it was the fact that Pinnacle Station was just bad. Nothing else to it.

And if the coop has nothing to do with the singleplayer, then why add it?

EliteM0nk3y

You kidding be. ME1 combat was the worst part of it. The fact that BW redid everything from scratch for ME2 for combat is a clear indication that ME1 combat is bad.

I never said the combat system was good, but the fact that I was able to enjoy the rest of the game fine shows to me that Pinnacle Station was a waste. I got only for the achievements (and it was cheap I think like $1 or something). Pinnacle Station was uninspiring, boring, and a cheap cash grab.

But does that mean BW can't improve from that?
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#100 xhawk27
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]How 'bout coop romances? EliteM0nk3y

Threesomes in Mass Effect 3 confirmed. Aw, YEAH! 8)

Now that I wouldn't mind :P

And you get to yell out using Kinect. :P