Could 360 do Uncharted 2 graphics?

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#1 Baurus_1
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I don't think so. In my opinion, the graphics in the Uncharted 2 screenshots look better than any 360 game by a good margin. I think the PS3 is a more graphically capable system.

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#2 bethwo
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Probably
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#3 IIJuggaNottII
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who knows. I didnt think that the 360 could do Gears 2 graphics, I guess.
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#4 II_Seraphim_II
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Im willing to bet it could.
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#5 coolnessmancool
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yes alan wake mass effect and gears 2 look just as good
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#6 one_on_one
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Uncharted 2 kinda looks like the upcoming 50 Cent video game and that's multiplat, so most likely yes, but who knows.

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#7 lawlessx
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im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.
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#8 BioShockOwnz
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Easily. It's been done already.
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#9 Sgt_Hale
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yes alan wake mass effect and gears 2 look just as goodcoolnessmancool
No they don't, but that's not the point... these threads are stupid. Who cares if the 360 could do it or not?! The point is that it doesn't have any games that look like that yet... maybe it eventually will (in fact I would bet that it will), maybe it won't. You can only enjoy whatever games are on your system anyway... so who cares what another system could 'potentially' do?
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#10 patriots7672
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The 360 could make it look about 85-90% as good, but not totally all the way.
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#11 EG101
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Of course the 360 could. The 360 is capable of higher polycounts and higher res textures than the PS3. Thats why its easier to port games from PS3 to 360 than it is to port games from 360 to PS3. What is apparent is that Sony has contracted some great technical and artistic talent in insomniac and Naughtydog.
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#12 patriots7672
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im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.lawlessx

Only the makers of Uncharted could answer that and they did by saying no the 360 couldn't do it because they harnessed the Bluray drive's capabilities and the 360 only does DVDs.

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#13 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.patriots7672

Only the makers of Uncharted could answer that and they did by saying no the 360 couldn't do it because they harnessed the Bluray drive's capabilities and the 360 only does DVDs.

yeah im sure they did say that :roll:
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#14 deuteris
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Never. The PS3 will always have better graphics from now on.

I know we thought the 360 wouldn't be able to match PS3 graphics when the PS3 launched and were surprised at how well the 360 matched up. We were surprised again in 2007 as the 360 continued to keep pace. And were surprised yet again this 2008 with the new Gears and latest Gamespot comparison. But now there's no way we're going to be surprised again.

Is there?

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#15 longshotgir
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Gears 2 and RE5 look better. So im guessing it can do even more. Come on guys, dont jump to conclusions so early. The game looks good but you are exaggerating.
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im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.lawlessx
I think you mean nobody has the knowledge to answer that question. What does IQ have to do with it?
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#17 longshotgir
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.patriots7672

Only the makers of Uncharted could answer that and they did by saying no the 360 couldn't do it because they harnessed the Bluray drive's capabilities and the 360 only does DVDs.

Uhh, Epic said the same thing about gears 1 and some ps3 games look better than it. I wouldnt believe them if i were you.
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.BumFluff122
I think you mean nobody has the knowledge to answer that question. What does IQ have to do with it?

cows? :P
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#19 user_nat
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In my opinion there are games that already do look better.. so yes.
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The 360 could make it look about 85-90% as good, but not totally all the way. patriots7672

... Oh, my God.

I'm guessing that if Naughty Dog developed Uncharted for the 360, they could have made it run smoother, have better textures, and just about everything else would be better.

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Of course the 360 could. The 360 is capable of higher polycounts and higher res textures than the PS3. Thats why its easier to port games from PS3 to 360 than it is to port games from 360 to PS3. What is apparent is that Sony has contracted some great technical and artistic talent in insomniac and Naughtydog.EG101

Are you sure?

Here's the answer....... http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/18/interview-uncharted-drakes-fortune-possible-on-360/

Obli: How hard would it be to port Uncharted to the Xbox 360? I'm not just talking storage constraints (Blu-ray). Could it be faithfully recreated without the use of Cell?

Evan Wells: I won't say that it would be impossible, but it would be very difficult and we most certainly would have to make enough concessions that it would start to feel like a different game

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#22 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="longshotgir"]Gears 2 and RE5 look better. So im guessing it can do even more. Come on guys, dont jump to conclusions so early. The game looks good but you are exaggerating.

I disagree with your Gears2 RE5 comments. Gears 2 looks amazing but I think Uncharted 2 (from these screens) looks better. As for RE5, Im really confused as to what all the fuss is about. Yes, Chris Redfield looks great and all, but the background can look pretty shoddy at times and the enemies arent exactly as detailed as Chris. It looks good, but the way some people have been heralding it around here as "graphics king" is just beyond me. :(
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[QUOTE="EG101"]Of course the 360 could. The 360 is capable of higher polycounts and higher res textures than the PS3. Thats why its easier to port games from PS3 to 360 than it is to port games from 360 to PS3. What is apparent is that Sony has contracted some great technical and artistic talent in insomniac and Naughtydog.patriots7672

Are you sure?

Here's the answer....... http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/18/interview-uncharted-drakes-fortune-possible-on-360/

Obli: How hard would it be to port Uncharted to the Xbox 360? I'm not just talking storage constraints (Blu-ray). Could it be faithfully recreated without the use of Cell?

Evan Wells: I won't say that it would be impossible, but it would be very difficult and we most certainly would have to make enough concessions that it would start to feel like a different game

I kinda doubt that Naughty Dog are experts on Xbox 360 development..
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#24 PSP107
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[QUOTE="lawlessx"]im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.patriots7672

Only the makers of Uncharted could answer that and they did by saying no the 360 couldn't do it because they harnessed the Bluray drive's capabilities and the 360 only does DVDs.

so if 360 had HD-DVD (which means more space than DVD ) can they pull it off?
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#25 kingtito
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Are we back to these topics again?????? SERIOUSLY when are you cows going to get it straight that the 360 and PS3 are equal in power.
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#26 II_Seraphim_II
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]

[QUOTE="EG101"]Of course the 360 could. The 360 is capable of higher polycounts and higher res textures than the PS3. Thats why its easier to port games from PS3 to 360 than it is to port games from 360 to PS3. What is apparent is that Sony has contracted some great technical and artistic talent in insomniac and Naughtydog.user_nat

Are you sure?

Here's the answer....... http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/18/interview-uncharted-drakes-fortune-possible-on-360/

Obli: How hard would it be to port Uncharted to the Xbox 360? I'm not just talking storage constraints (Blu-ray). Could it be faithfully recreated without the use of Cell?

Evan Wells: I won't say that it would be impossible, but it would be very difficult and we most certainly would have to make enough concessions that it would start to feel like a different game

I kinda doubt that Naughty Dog are experts on Xbox 360 development..

maybe so, maybe not but I would take their word over anyone on this forums. Besides, they know the specs of the X360 and the architecture is pretty similar to PC so Im sure they can make a pretty educated guess.
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The 360 could make it look about 85-90% as good, but not totally all the way. patriots7672
Really? Any reason to back up your statement?
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#28 patriots7672
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]im pretty sure nobody here has the IQ to really answer that question.PSP107

Only the makers of Uncharted could answer that and they did by saying no the 360 couldn't do it because they harnessed the Bluray drive's capabilities and the 360 only does DVDs.

so if 360 had HD-DVD (which means more space than DVD ) can they pull it off?

Right the trouble is that the data that needs to be accessed from the disc while playing all needs to be on the disc and is too much data for a dual-layered dvd as with the 360. Bluray is large enough to pull it off and that is why they said they harnessed the capabilities of the Bluray drive to pull it off.

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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]

[QUOTE="EG101"]Of course the 360 could. The 360 is capable of higher polycounts and higher res textures than the PS3. Thats why its easier to port games from PS3 to 360 than it is to port games from 360 to PS3. What is apparent is that Sony has contracted some great technical and artistic talent in insomniac and Naughtydog.user_nat

Are you sure?

Here's the answer....... http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/18/interview-uncharted-drakes-fortune-possible-on-360/

Obli: How hard would it be to port Uncharted to the Xbox 360? I'm not just talking storage constraints (Blu-ray). Could it be faithfully recreated without the use of Cell?

Evan Wells: I won't say that it would be impossible, but it would be very difficult and we most certainly would have to make enough concessions that it would start to feel like a different game

I kinda doubt that Naughty Dog are experts on Xbox 360 development..

Even so, I'd be more inclined to believe them considering that Killzone has the best looking texture consistency throughout the levels I've seen than any game I've played on the 360 so far. The models and the environments look better too.... So if the graphics card on the 360 was so much better as fanboys would lead us to believe, why has the 360 been out longer and not produced comparable graphics? If KZ2 is the exception and no other PS3 games look as good within the next year, then maybe it's just the amount of money spent on KZ development... but considering how good Uncharted 2 is already looking, I'm more inclined to believe that the PS3 is just more powerful. Microsoft has not really shown us a lot from their 2009 lineup though... maybe they have some really impressive games that they've just kept under the hood??? I think we'll have a clearer idea by the end of 2009.
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#30 Sgt_Hale
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Are we back to these topics again?????? SERIOUSLY when are you cows going to get it straight that the 360 and PS3 are equal in power. kingtito

Probably when the 360 has more games that look as good as PS3's exclusives:|

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#31 iam2green
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yes, every system can play each exclusive.
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#32 longshotgir
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]The 360 could make it look about 85-90% as good, but not totally all the way. wapahala

... Oh, my God.

I'm guessing that if Naughty Dog developed Uncharted for the 360, they could have made it run smoother, have better textures, and just about everything else would be better.

wow, i love your sig!
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Can ps3 pull off gears' textures? Who the fk cares? :roll:
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#34 longshotgir
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[QUOTE="EG101"]Of course the 360 could. The 360 is capable of higher polycounts and higher res textures than the PS3. Thats why its easier to port games from PS3 to 360 than it is to port games from 360 to PS3. What is apparent is that Sony has contracted some great technical and artistic talent in insomniac and Naughtydog.patriots7672

Are you sure?

Here's the answer....... http://www.gamestooge.com/2007/11/18/interview-uncharted-drakes-fortune-possible-on-360/

Obli: How hard would it be to port Uncharted to the Xbox 360? I'm not just talking storage constraints (Blu-ray). Could it be faithfully recreated without the use of Cell?

Evan Wells: I won't say that it would be impossible, but it would be very difficult and we most certainly would have to make enough concessions that it would start to feel like a different game

It says PORT, not create from the ground up.
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#35 longshotgir
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[QUOTE="kingtito"]Are we back to these topics again?????? SERIOUSLY when are you cows going to get it straight that the 360 and PS3 are equal in power. Sgt_Hale

Probably when the 360 has more games that look as good as PS3's exclusives:|

it has enough games. Seriously, you people can't talk unless you played all the games. ATM 360 has the best graphics , deal with it. RE5 is the only game i can see dethroning gears 2 along with KZ (although this one IMO is as good as gears 2, different artstyles) and certainly uncharted looks good but not enough to compete with RE5 IMO.
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[QUOTE="patriots7672"]The 360 could make it look about 85-90% as good, but not totally all the way. wapahala

... Oh, my God.

I'm guessing that if Naughty Dog developed Uncharted for the 360, they could have made it run smoother, have better textures, and just about everything else would be better.

... Oh, my God. um no
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Im willing to bet it could.II_Seraphim_II
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Probably.
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Come on!! Not only is it impossible for the X360 to get the same graphics, but it is impossible for it to have the amazing sound the exclusives on the PS3 have. People does'nt think of this much, but the PS3 also runs high resolution sound and that demands a lot of bandwidth and processing power. Not even PC games know what 7.1 PCM sound is. The X360 only runs compressed Dolby Digital, not even DTS.

And the developers also has to make some levels look worser than others as well. They have to use a lot of these tricks to fit the game on one dvd.....admit it.

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#40 BeanTownBrown86
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it might be able to pump out the visuals but i doubt it will be able to run it smoothly
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#41 manziny
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Gods sake, who cares both systems can do HD Graphics
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#42 longshotgir
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[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

Come on!! Not only is it impossible for the X360 to get the same graphics, but it is impossible for it to have the amazing sound the exclusives on the PS3 have. People does'nt think of this much, but the PS3 also runs high resolution sound and that demands a lot of bandwidth and processing power. Not even PC games know what 7.1 PCM sound is. The X360 only runs compressed Dolby Digital, not even DTS.

And the developers also has to make some levels look worser than others as well. They have to use a lot of these tricks to fit the game on one dvd.....admit it.

'high resolution sound' :lol: you sir, are and genius :)
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[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

Come on!! Not only is it impossible for the X360 to get the same graphics, but it is impossible for it to have the amazing sound the exclusives on the PS3 have. People does'nt think of this much, but the PS3 also runs high resolution sound and that demands a lot of bandwidth and processing power. Not even PC games know what 7.1 PCM sound is. The X360 only runs compressed Dolby Digital, not even DTS.

And the developers also has to make some levels look worser than others as well. They have to use a lot of these tricks to fit the game on one dvd.....admit it.

longshotgir

'high resolution sound' :lol: you sir, are and idiot :)

:lol:

Btw longshot, I would delete the word "idiot", it could get you suspended, trust me.

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#44 Martin_G_N
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[QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

Come on!! Not only is it impossible for the X360 to get the same graphics, but it is impossible for it to have the amazing sound the exclusives on the PS3 have. People does'nt think of this much, but the PS3 also runs high resolution sound and that demands a lot of bandwidth and processing power. Not even PC games know what 7.1 PCM sound is. The X360 only runs compressed Dolby Digital, not even DTS.

And the developers also has to make some levels look worser than others as well. They have to use a lot of these tricks to fit the game on one dvd.....admit it.

longshotgir
'high resolution sound' :lol: you sir, are and idiot :)

Well...if you are using an X360 or a PC, you probably don't know what I'm talking about. But with an home cinema, you can easely hear the difference between a multiplatform game and a PS3 exclusive. The sound samples are better and the sound format is better. But you stay with your 64kbps sound samples.
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#45 ermacness
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while i don think that uncharted could run on the 360, i do fell that there'll be limitations. Animations, will be one of them that take a hti on the 360. While gears 2 do hold the console graphics crown right now, (IMHO) gears 2 really didn't look loads better than gears 1, as a matter of fact, i'll argue that the sequel performance transition is greater in Uncharted than it is in Gears. Also, Gears 2 will not hold that crown as long as gears 1 did. I do believe that the 360 is starting to show some age slightly in their graphics because gears was the best looking game that ran the most efficient that the 360 had to offer, until gears 2 came out. On the ps3, Uncharted was top dog of the ps3 (and consoles up until gears 2 came out), while GT5p, MGS4, and Motorstorm: PR (more technical than visual) are all great contenders for a graphics debate, and from the looks of 09, the ps3 visuals are only getting better and better, while the 360 have to rely on multiplats. So while i do think that the game is achievable on the 360, it'll come with limitations.
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[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="longshotgir"][QUOTE="Martin_G_N"]

Come on!! Not only is it impossible for the X360 to get the same graphics, but it is impossible for it to have the amazing sound the exclusives on the PS3 have. People does'nt think of this much, but the PS3 also runs high resolution sound and that demands a lot of bandwidth and processing power. Not even PC games know what 7.1 PCM sound is. The X360 only runs compressed Dolby Digital, not even DTS.

And the developers also has to make some levels look worser than others as well. They have to use a lot of these tricks to fit the game on one dvd.....admit it.

'high resolution sound' :lol: you sir, are and idiot :)

:lol:

Btw longshot, I would delete the word "idiot", it could get you suspended, trust me.

thanks for the warning, but suspended? :lol: been there, done that; i was suspended til 3 hours ago. Go me
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#47 foxhound_fox
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Could the PS3 do Gears of War graphics? If the PS3 and 360 can run games like Mirror's Edge, The Darkness and other multiplatform titles at essentially the same graphical fidelity, then both consoles would be fully capable of doing exclusives that either console has.
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#48 longshotgir
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while i don think that uncharted could run on the 360, i do fell that there'll be limitations. Animations, will be one of them that take a hti on the 360. While gears 2 do hold the console graphics crown right now, (IMHO) gears 2 really didn't look loads better than gears 1, as a matter of fact, i'll argue that the sequel performance transition is greater in Uncharted than it is in Gears. Also, Gears 2 will not hold that crown as long as gears 1 did. I do believe that the 360 is starting to show some age slightly in their graphics because gears was the best looking game that ran the most efficient that the 360 had to offer, until gears 2 came out. On the ps3, Uncharted was top dog of the ps3 (and consoles up until gears 2 came out), while GT5p, MGS4, and Motorstorm: PR (more technical than visual) are all great contenders for a graphics debate, and from the looks of 09, the ps3 visuals are only getting better and better, while the 360 have to rely on multiplats. So while i do think that the game is achievable on the 360, it'll come with limitations.ermacness
oh, it's you again. Anyway, 360 is fine, M$ will come up with something under their sleeves i promise, they dont like showing their guns until game shows and expos. So yeah, 360 is not aging, it just has less 1st party support than sony. M$ will hire ammo as soon as it runs out of exclusives. And gears 2 will not be dethroned that easily, i guess some people forgot how amazing this game looked.
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#49 DBhova23
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The ps3 exclusives are pulling away from the 360's. The only game that can even be in conversation with the likes of MGS4, Uncharted, Heavy Rain, and Killzone is Gears 2 which obviously can look equally as good on the PS3.
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#50 Martin_G_N
Member since 2006 • 2124 Posts
[QUOTE="crazy-player"][QUOTE="longshotgir"] 'high resolution sound' :lol: you sir, are and idiot :)longshotgir

:lol:

Btw longshot, I would delete the word "idiot", it could get you suspended, trust me.

thanks for the warning, but suspended? :lol: been there, done that; i was suspended til 3 hours ago. Go me

It's ok to be called an idiot, is'nt it?:) But the sound on most of the exclusives for the PS3 is pretty good compared other games. Maybe not a BD movie quality, but at least it's dvd quality, which none of the other consoles have.