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#1 Toriko42
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Since a 9.3 isn't high enough :roll:

Link here...

So pointless...

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As far as people's criticisms of the review are concern, what I saw the most was people were upset that I dinged it so much for it not being original. And that's the comment I saw the most on message boards and our comments. And the truth of the matter is it's not original. It doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done in other games.

Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features.

Note: Gears of War 2 scored 9.5, UC2 scored 9.3

When we review games, we put an extremely high emphasis on originality. Why do you think Super Mario Galaxy scored so high?

And again, I've said it a million times, the game is freaking incredible

There are no risks associated with that game at all. They played it completely safe. They took things that they knew were accepted and people loved and build it into one game. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But you can't expect a score of a 9.8 or a 9.5 and higher if you're doing something like that.

What say you rabblerousers, look what you've driven GT to

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#2 Blixxed
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Cows are the only group that complains over good scores.

From what I have seen at least. :p

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#3 Toriko42
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Cows are the only group that complains over good scores.

From what I have seen at least. :p

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I really think they're mad on GT because Gears of War 2 got a 9.5 :lol:
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#4 jakehouston88
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He reviewed it wrong. :)

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#5 ___gamemaster__
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yeah i read that too but we are in GS so cows here wont complain. :P

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#6 Toriko42
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He reviewed it wrong. :)

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Instead of just going around making claims, give me proof or some reasoning
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#7 SolidTy
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Sorry, it's hard for me to have an opinion about this, since I haven't played the game yet.

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I guess I will hunt this thread down once I finish Uncharted 2 twice. Sorry I couldn't be more help.:)

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#8 WhyS
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The most funny part about all this is that they are angry with a score, a great score, on a game that they haven't even played yet themselves. How fanboy'ish (read Low) can it get?
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#10 gamefan67
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For shame. Cows act like 9.3 is not an excellent score. Seeing as how I have not played UC2 (besides the beta which is very fun) I can not comment any further.
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#11 Yandere
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I agree with him from what I've played, the game is generic -- but it's fun.

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#12 clone01
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He reviewed it wrong. :)

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why do you say that? and i have to ask you, in all honesty, are you really proud to align yourself with a faceless corporation like sony (or ninty, or ms, for that matter)? honestly, i find this to be a very alien concept. unlike a family/pet/friend, these companies care nothing for you except your money. is this something you have aspired to?
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#13 clone01
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i find this just ridiculous. i really enjoyed uncharted, and will be buying uncharted 2 on the first day, but complaining about something that is pretty much AAA across the board is unnecessary.

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#14 ThatsSimtastic
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="jakehouston88"]

He reviewed it wrong. :)

Instead of just going around making claims, give me proof or some reasoning

You expect him to reason his incredibly biased posts? He is the king of making ridiculously stupid one liner posts and not have any reasoning
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#15 beekayjay
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Welcome to 2009, where a 9.3 is somehow signs of unfair bias. I'm a PS3 owner and I think the whining and complaining is pathetic and embarrassing.
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#16 good_sk8er7
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Yes! Because Halo 3 is completely original :roll:

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#17 Blixxed
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"]

Cows are the only group that complains over good scores.

From what I have seen at least. :p

Toriko42

I really think they're mad on GT because Gears of War 2 got a 9.5 :lol:

I forget how the quote goes, but as time goes on the standards get higher or something.

So an for example, if Uncharted 2 was reviewed a year ago, before Gears 2 came out, the score would have been higher then if it was recently reviewed, like it was.

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#18 Mystery_Writer
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well i'm not in favor of reviews that don't give a little extra bump in score due to "originality".. but at the same time i'm not a fond of cry babies (which from experience, it's the majority of ps3 fans)

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#19 finalfantasy94
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So is he still calling gears orginal? If so then yea I still have a problem. I dont care for his score. I think its fine,but the whole originality comment was dumb.

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#20 Messiahbolical-
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The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.
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#21 Nero_Paladin
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It's no use trying to make sense of comments made by fanboy's.

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#22 Bigboi500
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Fanboys never get it right...
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#23 clone01
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Fanboys never get it right...Bigboi500
certainly true.
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#24 aroxx_ab
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So is he still calling gears orginal? If so then yea I still have a problem. I dont care for his score. I think its fine,but the whole originality comment was dumb.

finalfantasy94

Yeah agreed on that, cant see what is new with gears 2 at all. we seen it before.

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#25 mgs_freak91
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He reviewed it wrong. :)

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:S I can't believe you are being serious - mate, you have to be joking, right? Every post I have seen you made is some fanboy comment which gives you no credibility at all. Really! Get over it. I understand that you have your own opinions on things. But, don't be a fanboy about it!
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w0w :| im at a loss of words honestly
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#29 WhyS
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It's possible to have other flaws as well other than just lack of originality. I don't know if they deducted any points because of this, but I remember him stating that the A.I was moronic while talking about the stealth element in the game. Just an example..
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#30 Toriko42
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So if CODMW2 gets higher then a 9.3 then is it going back on thier word? Cause I mean MW2 still looks like a blast,but doesint really look orginal.

finalfantasy94
The fact that they're bringing Snowmobile Racing to COD is enough for me :lol: Special Forces is just so over the top it's amazing
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#31 Zaibach
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The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.Messiahbolical-
This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

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#32 AtomicBaconBits
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What is wrong with people?...It's a ****ing 9.3! How can you complain over that? And the fact that GT actually has to defend themselves..over a 9.3?! I'm just...wow,I don't know what to say...

Even if GT gave it a 6.0...who cares? It's getting high 9's on the majority of all videogame sites.I'd just be enjoying my game,instead of complaining over ONE site's review...

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.Zaibach

This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

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#34 oxygenis4losers
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Why is this even an issue? Who cares? It's a great score to begin with but even if it wasn't, why on earth would you ever seriously be offended by the opinion and score of a reviewer or anyone else for that matter?

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#35 finalfantasy94
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It's possible to have other flaws as well other than just lack of originality. I don't know if they deducted any points because of this, but I remember him stating that the A.I was moronic while talking about the stealth element in the game. Just an example..WhyS

Yea but its seems the whole originality thing was the sore thumb he was mainly talking about. This guy better stick to his guns. If he doesint dock every game for not having orginal stuff. He will be a bold face liar.

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#36 fireballonfire
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Why do you guys(looking at cows)care anyway. Let me tell you something that might come as a shock to you. Reviews are not objective!! How many times does this have to be said before it sinks in. Not everybody likes the same games. Maybe this game didn't do all that for this guy, so what. You should be more worried about your own enjoyment instead of deciding for other what to think.

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#37 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.Toriko42

This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

So gears 1 was uber orginal and so was part 2?

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#38 AtomicBaconBits
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Why do you guys(looking at cows)care anyway. Let me tell you something that might come as a shock to you. Reviews are not objective!! How many times does this have to be said before it sinks in. Not everybody likes the same games. Maybe this game didn't do all that for this guy, so what. You should be more worried about your own enjoyment instead of deciding for other what to think.

fireballonfire

Thank you.Sadly,people these days have to go by what others say.Not by their own views.

Seriously,who cares if one site gives a game a bad review,when it's getting positive feedback from the majority of others? And in this case,it was actually an excellent score.But people still whine about it...

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[QUOTE="WhyS"]It's possible to have other flaws as well other than just lack of originality. I don't know if they deducted any points because of this, but I remember him stating that the A.I was moronic while talking about the stealth element in the game. Just an example..finalfantasy94

Yea but its seems the whole originality thing was the sore thumb he was mainly talking about. This guy better stick to his guns. If he doesint dock every game for not having orginal stuff. He will be a bold face liar.

If they would have given it an 8 or 7 for that same reason. Yes, then maybe fanboys' whine would've been justified. Now he said it got a 9.3 instead of what.. a 9.8 or 9.5? So yes, if another game pops up, which, according to GT doesn't bring anything new to the table. Yeah, I guess they are liars if they don't take .5p off of their score.
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#41 Blixxed
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

finalfantasy94

Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

So gears 1 was uber orginal and so was part 2?

More so then Uncharted 2 to them. Anyone complaining about IGNs Uncharted 2's 9.5 and Gears' 9.6 yet?
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.Toriko42

This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

Their track record speaks different. Look at the games they've given good scores to, most of them aren't original at all. Saying one thing and doing it are two different things completely. Actions speak louder than words. If this guy didn't want to get flamed, then he shouldn't have brought up originality. The can say they praise originality all day long, but when their track record is the way it is... chock full of unoriginal games being praised and original games being criticized... all they're doing is simply contradicting themselves and ruining their own credibility. That's fine though. I used to be a big supporter of them, but I typically don't support hypocrites.... so I'll just stop watching their reviews.
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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.Toriko42

This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

By that logic MW2 would score lower than kz2 because of rising standards regardless of being a better game or not.

and as far as originality goes my demon souls argument has not been rebutted

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#45 Blixxed
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

Messiahbolical-

Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

Their track record speaks different. Look at the games they've given good scores to, most of them aren't original at all. Saying one thing and doing it are two different things completely. Actions speak louder than words. If this guy didn't want to get flamed, then he shouldn't have brought up originality. The can say they praise originality all day long, but when their track record is the way it is... chock full of unoriginal games being praised and original games being criticized... all they're doing is simply contradicting themselves and ruining their own credibility. That's fine though. I used to be a big supporter of them, but I typically don't support hypocrites.... so I'll just stop watching their reviews.

So he should have given a fake score just to make fanboys happy then? Wow, that'd make his job soooooo much easier. And you know different people review games on GameTrailers, right?
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#46 Blixxed
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"]

[QUOTE="Zaibach"]This actually is pretty spot on. it is really inconsistant, demon's souls is the most original game to come out in a while and it got 8,9- i'm not being a fanboy just pointing out the inconsistencies in thier excuses 9.3 is a great score.

Zaibach

Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

By that logic MW2 would score lower than kz2 because of rising standards regardless of being a better game or not.

and as far as originality goes my demon souls argument has not been rebutted

It's because games push the standards up as time goes on, it hasn't been that long since the PS2/Xbox/Cube days, look how far games have already come.
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#47 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too late

That's what the guy at GT is sayin

Blixxed

So gears 1 was uber orginal and so was part 2?

More so then Uncharted 2to them. Anyone complaining about IGNs Uncharted 2's 9.5 and Gears' 9.6 yet?

I think noone is speaking about igns review because they didint constally say NOT ORIGINAL and TAKES FROM OTHER GAMES and counting it as a big negative. Gears 1 and 2 didint feel orginal cause well it didint invent the cover system.

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#48 _Cadbury_
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Meh. For everyone to get so upset about only their review im sure there mustve been something they didnt do right.
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#49 fireballonfire
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I wonder if we will ever see the day when we can experience all the enjoyment from a game just by reading it's review. It sure as hell would spare us a lot of time not to mention the trouble actually playing the games.

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#50 danish-death
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It's on another forum - why do we even care? UC2 got 9.5 on GS and that's all we should care about.