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It's sad seeing just how many people here need to learn to read ._. The problem is not the score but the content of the review. According to the reviewer, UC2, an unoriginal and linear game, is inferior to gears 2, which is unoriginal and linear as well, and has many bugs and glitches in single player and multiplayer. Keep in mind, he never faulted gears 2 for being unoriginal or linear. And standards changing with time? So now all games have to be open world innovative masterpieces to be good games?tehpiecemaker
9.3 isn't a good game?
It doesn't seem that UC2 being a linear game was a major draw back of the game, Also for UC 2 they took something similar to Gears 2 Horde mode. It doesn't make the unogrinality to be a bad/horrible thing.
[QUOTE="tehpiecemaker"]It's sad seeing just how many people here need to learn to read ._. The problem is not the score but the content of the review. According to the reviewer, UC2, an unoriginal and linear game, is inferior to gears 2, which is unoriginal and linear as well, and has many bugs and glitches in single player and multiplayer. Keep in mind, he never faulted gears 2 for being unoriginal or linear. And standards changing with time? So now all games have to be open world innovative masterpieces to be good games?Bazooka_4ME
I made it bigger for you so people (especially lemmings) can understand why cows are complaining about the review and not the score.
Ti's sad lemmings will find just about anything for a way to damage control even starting this thread when there's a sticky. TC knows he can't handle teh 'sticky'.. :lol:
That big yellow text is damage control. Cows like to moan, end of story. They are not victims here.what's is wrong with ppl this day, not only it's a review from one person ( like it matters:roll:) it's a freakin 9,3, even if the game would have scored 8 it would have been good, some ppl really have no life, did you even played the damn game no
I'm quoting myself for emphasis. The TC is being misleading and saying that people are mad about the actual score when that's not the case and some of you guys keep posting about how people whine even though it's a great score. YOUR MISSING THE POINT OF THE COMPLAINTS. These complaints are completely justified to. You shouldn't be having double standards when reviewing games.First of all, you're an idiot if you think people were simply complaining because of the 9.3. People aren't ****ing stupid. We know 9.3 is a great score so cut that **** out. Gears of War could have gotten an 8.5 and Uncharted 2 8. The actual score wasn't the issue here, so stop trying use that as a basis to bash people because you're completely missing the point. The real issue was basically how GT knocked down points for the game lacking originality and being too linear at some parts. How the **** are they going to make Uncharted 2 a high quality heavy story/character driven game with specific cinematic elements that tops any other game out (including MGS 4) and make it nonlinear. This is a cinematic, interactive, action/adventure game.
Second, the lack of originality is an issue for me because they say that the games that try to do new things will be the games that will get the higher scores. There were plenty of games on GT that have gotten very high review scores that haven't done anything extremely revolutionary. If there is anyway Uncharted 2 does things differently, it's in the online platforming/cover system gameplay because there is no other game on the market as of now that let's you really play with a cover system as vertically as in Uncharted 2. In addition, the game has been improved over the 1st in various ways, but the cinematic qualities have had a huge improvement. You can say that's the one thing that really sets Uncharted 2 apart from other single player campaigns on the market. You will WANT to finish the game badly as you keep playing the campaign.
When I see GeoW 2 scoring higher than Uncharted 2, and Uncharted 2 is probably the better game (which a better overall value too), then I see an issue. GeoW 2 didn't do anything incredibly different from GeoW (which scored a 9.1 from GT). Again, my problem isn't with the score, but their reasoning for scoring it lower than other games for silly/wrong reasons. And no I'm not a cow. Stop being close minded because I have an opinion that some cows share.
mD-
The fact that it scored 0.2 less than Gears of War 2 makes it a disgrace and renders it unplayable imho. I dont spend money buying inferior games.
[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]I made it bigger for you so people (especially lemmings) can understand why cows are complaining about the review and not the score.That big yellow text is damage control. Cows like to moan, end of story. They are not victims here. :lol: no no no sir, I think this whole thread is teh DC. This issue have been talked about at the sticky so why still post it? Be honest man, lemmings will find just about anything (EVEN THIS) to trash the game and its fans.Ti's sad lemmings will find just about anything for a way to damage control even starting this thread when there's a sticky. TC knows he can't handle teh 'sticky'.. :lol:
Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="good_sk8er7"]
Yes! Because Halo 3 is completely original :roll:
ur actually going there? omg fanboys!!!!!! HALO revolutionized the console fps, thats why it scores sooo damn high. honestly know what your talking about before you make dumb comments. u have NEVER played uncharted 2 and probably have NEVER played halo or you would know exactly what i am talking about!
Halo revolotionised the fps, NOT HALO3Yes, but it introduced many new concepts, like equipment, as well as defining how multiplayer FPSs should work online on consoles.You guys aren't even funny. And you're still missing the point, sigh lol...
mD-
What? Your silly argument about the review "content"? No. The purpose of content is to relay information to the gamers to see if they are interested in buying the game. It is true that Uncharted 2 is not original gameplay wise. If the GT review of Gears 2 didnt state that it was unoriginal, then it is the gears 2 review that is inauccrate, not the uncharted 2 review. Besides, anyone with half a brain knows that Gears 2 would have similar gameplay to Gears 1.
This is just stupid fanboys whining because the game scored 0.2 less, you think the cows give a **** about review content? :lol:
Fanboy Rage. One website doesn't score your game as high as you think & you cry like a little girl. Admist the complaining the Fanboy My Game Is Better moves in with his endless comments like Halo 3 & Gears 2 are better look at the score. Everyone else is sitting back looking at them wondering my god look at these freaks.
Since a 9.3 isn't high enough :roll:
Link here...
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As far as people's criticisms of the review are concern, what I saw the most was people were upset that I dinged it so much for it not being original. And that's the comment I saw the most on message boards and our comments. And the truth of the matter is it's not original. It doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done in other games.
Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features.
Note: Gears of War 2 scored 9.5, UC2 scored 9.3
When we review games, we put an extremely high emphasis on originality. Why do you think Super Mario Galaxy scored so high?
And again, I've said it a million times, the game is freaking incredible
There are no risks associated with that game at all. They played it completely safe. They took things that they knew were accepted and people loved and build it into one game. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But you can't expect a score of a 9.8 or a 9.5 and higher if you're doing something like that.
What say you rabblerousers, look what you've driven GT to
Toriko42
Yeah, Gears was so original that makes my eyes hurt!!!
Hereby I present you Killswitch (last gen game)
So much for originality
I wanna make clear, i have no complains for the score, if anything the game score should be lowered to 9.0 if the game is generic. But if your going to lower the score of U2 because isnt "original", then you should do it with Gears of war too, because both games are not orginal at all.
There a word for this Hypocrisy
[QUOTE="Toriko42"]
Since a 9.3 isn't high enough :roll:
Link here...
So pointless...
Notable Quotes:
As far as people's criticisms of the review are concern, what I saw the most was people were upset that I dinged it so much for it not being original. And that's the comment I saw the most on message boards and our comments. And the truth of the matter is it's not original. It doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done in other games.
Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features.
Note: Gears of War 2 scored 9.5, UC2 scored 9.3
When we review games, we put an extremely high emphasis on originality. Why do you think Super Mario Galaxy scored so high?
And again, I've said it a million times, the game is freaking incredible
There are no risks associated with that game at all. They played it completely safe. They took things that they knew were accepted and people loved and build it into one game. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But you can't expect a score of a 9.8 or a 9.5 and higher if you're doing something like that.
What say you rabblerousers, look what you've driven GT to
LookAnDrolL
Yeah, Gears was so original that makes my eyes hurt!!!
Hereby I present you Killswitch (last gen game)
So much for originality
I wanna make clear, i have no complains for the score, if anything the game score should be lowered to 9.0 if the game is generic. But if your going to lower the score of U2 because isnt "original", then you should do it with Gears of war too, because both games are not orginal at all.
There a word for this Hypocrisy
What's more funny is that Winback on the N64 had a cover system in 3rd person before even that game![QUOTE="Toriko42"]
Since a 9.3 isn't high enough :roll:
Link here...
So pointless...
Notable Quotes:
As far as people's criticisms of the review are concern, what I saw the most was people were upset that I dinged it so much for it not being original. And that's the comment I saw the most on message boards and our comments. And the truth of the matter is it's not original. It doesn't really do anything that hasn't been done in other games.
Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features.
Note: Gears of War 2 scored 9.5, UC2 scored 9.3
When we review games, we put an extremely high emphasis on originality. Why do you think Super Mario Galaxy scored so high?
And again, I've said it a million times, the game is freaking incredible
There are no risks associated with that game at all. They played it completely safe. They took things that they knew were accepted and people loved and build it into one game. And that's fine, there's nothing wrong with that. But you can't expect a score of a 9.8 or a 9.5 and higher if you're doing something like that.
What say you rabblerousers, look what you've driven GT to
LookAnDrolL
Yeah, Gears was so original that makes my eyes hurt!!!
Hereby I present you Killswitch (last gen game)
So much for originality
I wanna make clear, i have no complains for the score, if anything the game score should be lowered to 9.0 if the game is generic. But if your going to lower the score of U2 because isnt "original", then you should do it with Gears of war too, because both games are not orginal at all.
There a word for this Hypocrisy
The words are " Get Over It." Who cares really, Uncharted 2 is going to be a blast. we will enjoy the game & laugh at anyone whom says anything stupid or bad about it. Game Over, Move Out.I understand GT's logic on the slightly lower rating than UC2 is getting elsewhere. But that logic should be consistent. How can they say this about Uncharted and still give GOW2 a 9.5 when it did virtually nothing different? I'm not complaining; I agree that originality should count for more a larger part of the score than most sites (this one included) give it. However, the same standard should apply across the board.
sorry but i cant help it am sorry guys but
halo 3>uncharted 2 :lol:
j/k
but do you gys realise how pathetic you sound? its a game ffs as long as you enjoy it thats all that should matter
Oh man, this post almost killed me:lol:Gametrailers review is very bad: they spoil almost every cutscene in the game. And 9.3 is nod a very good score to a highly anticipated console game: console games start to worth at 8.0, the rank is from 8.0 to 10.0, so a 9.3 game is a 6.5.
Ondoval
lol Some guy earlier in either this thread or the official UC2 thread already tried to say that Lego Indiana Jones = Uncharted 2.sorry but i cant help it am sorry guys but
halo 3>uncharted 2 :lol:
j/k
p0g0theclown
Lets face it, even if the reviewer is full of crap about the originality of Gears OR maybe he didn't play Winback or Killswitch back in the day and the game felt fresh to him, all of the whining about it is inexcusable. The game still got an excellent score and a very favorable review and maybe acting like a bunch of adults instead of crybabies might have made the situation better. But no, everybody's got to have a goddamn conspriracy theory as to the reviewers reasoning.
Get the hell over it and enjoy the game.This is even more pathetic than the Nintendo fanboys crying about Zelda flopping here.
Everyone who thinks cows are complaining because of the 9.3 doesn't get it.
It's not the 9.3 It's that the reviewer lowered points because U2 wasn't original. However Halo 3 wasn't docked any points for not being original. Same goes for Gears 2.
If Modern Warfare 2 doesn't get docked any points then that's another one. People are mad because there's these double standards for PS3 games that don't seem to be applied to 360 games.
It doesn't help that GT has already been caught botching their video comparisons with actual proof/facts.
All I have to say is LULZ. Uncharted 2 scored better than gears two in most sites, I could care less about GT review I didn't even watch it I was told it was filled with plot spoilers
whole heartedly agree :)Everyone who thinks cows are complaining because of the 9.3 doesn't get it.
It's not the 9.3 It's that the reviewer lowered points because U2 wasn't original. However Halo 3 wasn't docked any points for not being original. Same goes for Gears 2.
If Modern Warfare 2 doesn't get docked any points then that's another one. People are mad because there's these double standards for PS3 games that don't seem to be applied to 360 games.
It doesn't help that GT has already been caught botching their video comparisons with actual proof/facts.
GiantMuffin
Nor should they because it's nonsense. I don't give a crap why they are doing it, they are complaining about a very favorable review because it wasn't more favorable than a game on a system that they hate. End of story. Complaining about .2 differences in games is so dumb it's incalculable how dumb it is.Everyone who thinks cows are complaining because of the 9.3 doesn't get it.
GiantMuffin
I could see how Gears of War would get some marks for originality. Sure cover systems had been done before but not seamlessly like what Epic integrated. I don't understand how gametrailers could ever justify the second one's score of a 9.5. It's a copy and paste job with laggy multiplayer to boot.Lets face it, even if the reviewer is full of crap about the originality of Gears OR maybe he didn't play Winback or Killswitch back in the day and the game felt fresh to him, all of the whining about it is inexcusable. The game still got an excellent score and a very favorable review and maybe acting like a bunch of adults instead of crybabies might have made the situation better. But no, everybody's got to have a goddamn conspriracy theory as to the reviewers reasoning.
Get the hell over it and enjoy the game.This is even more pathetic than the Nintendo fanboys crying about Zelda flopping here.
heretrix
Nor should they because it's nonsense. I don't give a crap why they are doing it, they are complaining about a very favorable review because it wasn't more favorable than a game on a system that they hate. End of story. Complaining about .2 differences in games is so dumb it's incalculable how dumb it is.[QUOTE="GiantMuffin"]
Everyone who thinks cows are complaining because of the 9.3 doesn't get it.
heretrix
You're not seeing the bigger picture. Yes a 9.3 score is great and complaining about .'s of a difference is futile. But it's the principle of the whole thing. Who's to say this doesn't cross over into other PS3 games if nobody says anything about it? What if other PS3 games come out that don't do anything new but they're still amazing, and they get docked more points for not being original?
Why should GT be able to get away with favorable treatment for certain games and not others just because they're on a certain console? GT should be held accountable when they're inconsistent like this, and that's all we're really talking about. We're not talking about adding points of a score just the whole concept of un-even treatment.
This just confirms my position that cows are the most obnoxious, misinformed and arrogant people in the world. They're still going to get this game and enjoy it, but no, they feel that their ego hasn't been nourished enough. Having played the demo, I think this game should've gotten a higher score, but I REALLY couldn't care less about a freaking review.
The negatives were bs... No originality? And he says Gears 2 came up with Hored mode?! Hored mode was ripped straight from Rainbow six:Vegas, do you guys remember terrorist hunt?! I do, so he can save the BS for people who just look at scores and don't read the reviews. 9.3 is a great score but dont try to justify your score with horrid info!
I actually enjoy the gaming culture, and editors really are horrible at their job.This just confirms my position that cows are the most obnoxious, misinformed and arrogant people in the world. They're still going to get this game and enjoy it, but no, they feel that their ego hasn't been nourished enough. Having played the demo, I think this game should've gotten a higher score, but I REALLY couldn't care less about a freaking review.
Hanass
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