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#52 Allthishate
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When cows rant about scores that areactually realy gd confirms in my mind what that dude said about PS fanboys . ( cant remmber his name sadly :( )

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#53 Allthishate
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

So gears 1 was uber orginal and so was part 2?

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More so then Uncharted 2to them. Anyone complaining about IGNs Uncharted 2's 9.5 and Gears' 9.6 yet?

I think noone is speaking about igns review because they didint constally say NOT ORIGINAL and TAKES FROM OTHER GAMES and counting it as a big negative. Gears 1 and 2 didint feel orginal cause well it didint invent the cover system.

Gears was original imo and totaly deserved it's score. LIKE HOW UC2 deserves it's score .

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#54 Messiahbolical-
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Toriko42"] Had UC2 come out last year and GEOW2 this year, the role would be reversed but the fact is, UC2 came a year too lateThat's what the guy at GT is sayinBlixxed
Their track record speaks different. Look at the games they've given good scores to, most of them aren't original at all. Saying one thing and doing it are two different things completely. Actions speak louder than words. If this guy didn't want to get flamed, then he shouldn't have brought up originality. The can say they praise originality all day long, but when their track record is the way it is... chock full of unoriginal games being praised and original games being criticized... all they're doing is simply contradicting themselves and ruining their own credibility. That's fine though. I used to be a big supporter of them, but I typically don't support hypocrites.... so I'll just stop watching their reviews.

So he should have given a fake score just to make fanboys happy then? Wow, that'd make his job soooooo much easier. And you know different people review games on GameTrailers, right?

Who cares about the score? It's his "reasoning" that annoys me. I thought the score was great. If only he didn't sit there and make complaints about stuff that don't count as complaints... and I got over it, but then he had to post some damage control, still complaining about the same garbage saying stuff like "9.3 is the highest score an unoriginal game can possibly get" when games that are even more unoriginal like Halo 3 get 9.8. It just makes him look stupid, he should have kept his mouth shut and let it die. I'm tired of hearing about it anyways, I'm just going to take everything they say with a grain of salt from now on because I don't put up with hypocrisy.

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#55 Blixxed
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"][QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

So gears 1 was uber orginal and so was part 2?

finalfantasy94

More so then Uncharted 2to them. Anyone complaining about IGNs Uncharted 2's 9.5 and Gears' 9.6 yet?

I think noone is speaking about igns review because they didint constally say NOT ORIGINAL and TAKES FROM OTHER GAMES and counting it as a big negative. Gears 1 and 2 didint feel orginal cause well it didint invent the cover system.

Gears is said to be the one that perfected it nearly, and Gears 2 made it alot better, so I guess it wasn't perfect the first time around, it was just better then everything else. Ever think that games only problem wasn't originality? Ever think that IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT PEOPLE REVIEWING THE GAMES. I'm not even sure who did the review for each one, but there is more then one guy doing it at Game Trailers. No games are perfect.
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#56 omarsh94
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That's pathetic really, it's not like cows played it and completed the game.

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#57 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="finalfantasy94"]

[QUOTE="Blixxed"] More so then Uncharted 2to them. Anyone complaining about IGNs Uncharted 2's 9.5 and Gears' 9.6 yet?Blixxed

I think noone is speaking about igns review because they didint constally say NOT ORIGINAL and TAKES FROM OTHER GAMES and counting it as a big negative. Gears 1 and 2 didint feel orginal cause well it didint invent the cover system.

Gears is said to be the one that perfected it nearly, and Gears 2 made it alot better, so I guess it wasn't perfect the first time around, it was just better then everything else. Ever think that games only problem wasn't originality? Ever think that IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT PEOPLE REVIEWING THE GAMES. I'm not even sure who did the review for each one, but there is more then one guy doing it at Game Trailers. No games are perfect.

See im fine with perfected,but perfected doesint equal original. Anywho you bring up one point that im curious about. Why is the reviewer of games in gametrailers never shown. Its just one voice. I mean every other website does not why not them.

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.

Uncharted 2 is not an FPS like Halo. The only thing in common in both games is that they have guns in them.
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#59 TheLordHimself
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LOL because 9.3 obviously means they think the game is terrible... I don't get fanboys.

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#60 skanjos
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i stoped caring for gt from their biased comparisson videos and some "ugly" reviews .

mgsiv story 8.7 and halo 3 story 9.5 and gears 2 story 8.8 hm..........sth is wrong here

want originality? demons soul why 8.9?is it too hard for them?

valkyria chronicles 9.1 the best jrpg this gen and the most innovative and original yet its not 9.5+ like the reviewer says.

originality gears 2 9.5 = fail

originality halo 3 9.8 =fail

what was original in those games and they scored 9.5+ .

its a fact that gt is biased and you can see it in their comparisson videos.they havent scored a single ps3 exclusive more than 9.4 and calling originality as an excuse is %#!$ .i mean isnt lbp innovative and original?yet it scored 9.4 there ,but offcourse teh gears 2 is more original than lbp....

thats why i am posting here and not there.you can go to the 360(conclaive beast) or the ps3(ps2 x 1,5) in their forums.lol gt.

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[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.

Uncharted 2 is not an FPS like Halo. The only thing in common in both games is that they have guns in them.

? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.
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#62 xxmatt125xx
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Cows are the worst fanboys around all they complain over everything, look what they did to the forza 3 video review http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-forza-motorsport/57471

Video rated at 7.3 sony fans please grow up.

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#63 Messiahbolical-
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Cows are the worst fanboys around all they complain over everything, look what they did to the forza 3 video review http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-forza-motorsport/57471

Video rated at 7.3 sony fans please grow up.

xxmatt125xx
lol Hypocrisy at it's finest.
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[QUOTE="xxmatt125xx"]

Cows are the worst fanboys around all they complain over everything, look what they did to the forza 3 video review http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-forza-motorsport/57471

Video rated at 7.3 sony fans please grow up.

Messiahbolical-

lol Hypocrisy at it's finest.

yeah.. all fanboys are the same..

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wow really people, you complaining about a 9.3 score, it's a freaking 9.3, I wonder what would be the reaction if he actually flopped the game.

But he is also stupid because he is not making a good point with his originality comment too.

"Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features."

I wonder what he thinks of MW2 lol, how about them yearly sports games.

All games are me too when it comes to the regeneration health system that Halo : CE did, I don't know what the heck is he talking about?

Damn he is making it worse for him :lol:

Again taking ideas and refine/making a better use of is part of originality.

Thats what the first Gears of War did with the cover system, they took unoriginal concept and made it their own.

He is just not making a good point about his defense.

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#66 Messiahbolical-
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="xxmatt125xx"]

Cows are the worst fanboys around all they complain over everything, look what they did to the forza 3 video review http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-forza-motorsport/57471

Video rated at 7.3 sony fans please grow up.

___gamemaster__

lol Hypocrisy at it's finest.

yeah.. all fanboys are the same..

lol Exactly. I just thought it was funny that he was says cow's complain over everything then right after that he starts complaining in the same post. Why do people have to be so hypocritical these days? People need to just think about what they're posting before they press enter...
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wow really people, you complaining about a 9.3 score, it's a freaking 9.3, I wonder what would be the reaction if he actually flopped the game.

But he is also stupid because he is not making a good point with his originality comment too.

"Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features."

I wonder what he thinks of MW2 lol, how about them yearly sports games.

All games are me too when it comes to the regeneration health system that Halo : CE did, I don't know what the heck is he talking about?

Damn he is making it worse for him :lol:

Again taking ideas and refine/making a better use of is part of originality.

Thats what the first Gears of War did with the cover system, they took unoriginal concept and made it their own.

He is just not making a good point about his defense.

HAZE-Unit

thats exactly what i've been saying, MW2 canr score more than KZ2 by that logic right?

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#68 xxmatt125xx
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Really is it so hard for people to accept Uncharted 2 got a great score Forza 3 got a great score why complain just enjoy the games. What do sony fans want a pefect score no less, even if it got 9.5 its hardy a difference.
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#69 xxmatt125xx
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[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] lol Hypocrisy at it's finest.Messiahbolical-

yeah.. all fanboys are the same..

lol Exactly. I just thought it was funny that he was says cow's complain over everything then right after that he starts complaining in the same post. Why do people have to be so hypocritical these days? People need to just think about what they're posting before they press enter...

I was just stating a fact about the ratings and i wasnt complaining merely stating what i thought you need to stop jumping to conclusions.

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#70 ThatsSimtastic
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Quit crying it's a great score meaning it's a good game. Only cows will find any excuse to cry over the smallest things.

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#71 Messiahbolical-
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Really is it so hard for people to accept Uncharted 2 got a great score Forza 3 got a great score why complain just enjoy the games. What do sony fans want a pefect score no less, even if it got 9.5 its hardy a difference.xxmatt125xx
Dude, you're making yourself look so bad right now and you don't even realize it. You're saying "why complain just enjoy the games", yet you continue to come on here and complain instead of just enjoying the game yourself. Practice what you preach. I mean... why are you even on here? Have you even asked yourself that yet? Just go enjoy the games like you said. Nobody on here's even talking about Forza...
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#72 xxmatt125xx
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Im just stating sony fans would run into a fire if sony said it was a good idea, and really i wasnt complaining i dont care if its rated lower by sony fans i just think its sad on their part.
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.Messiahbolical-
Uncharted 2 is not an FPS like Halo. The only thing in common in both games is that they have guns in them.

? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.

Halo 3 was the only console FPS this gen that had some original idea's.

Forge

Theater mode

BTW you really think uncharted has an original setting???>

TOMB RAIDER???

Indiana Jones???

The only bigshot game that had an original setting this generation was Bioshock.

Oh and COD4 was original in the use of RPG elements for it's multiplayer (perks etc.)

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#74 PS_Trizzle
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The game recieved a 9.5 here and that is all that matters here, so take it easy people :D A 9.3 from GT is great and should be cause to celebrate not complain and whine on a forum.

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#76 Messiahbolical-
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Im just stating sony fans would run into a fire if sony said it was a good idea, and really i wasnt complaining i dont care if its rated lower by sony fans i just think its sad on their part.xxmatt125xx
Then why do you continue to talk about it? Just exit the topic, get over it, and enjoy the games like you said. If you enjoy Forza 3, you're going to enjoy it either way. Do you not think that 360 fanboys are doing the same thing to PS3 games like Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 all the time? It happens on both sides, and it doesn't matter. User scores are pretty much useless to even pay attention to, because they're purposely downrated so often no matter what console they're on... so who cares. :| Forza 3 will be a great game, though I fail to see how it's "original", but that's never been an issue until now. ;)
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.

This is true, and the fact that many games that are very original get lower scores. He is just making crap up to cop out..
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Dang, those guys really have to chill out. They throw a fit because it's .7 away from perfection? They should just give God of War 3 an 8...that'll show 'em! Add some insult to injury :P
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#79 Blixxed
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[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

wow really people, you complaining about a 9.3 score, it's a freaking 9.3, I wonder what would be the reaction if he actually flopped the game.

But he is also stupid because he is not making a good point with his originality comment too.

"Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features."

I wonder what he thinks of MW2 lol, how about them yearly sports games.

All games are me too when it comes to the regeneration health system that Halo : CE did, I don't know what the heck is he talking about?

Damn he is making it worse for him :lol:

Again taking ideas and refine/making a better use of is part of originality.

Thats what the first Gears of War did with the cover system, they took unoriginal concept and made it their own.

He is just not making a good point about his defense.

Zaibach

thats exactly what i've been saying, MW2 canr score more than KZ2 by that logic right?

No, because as the standards go up, so does the quality of the games. And I'm 99% sure Modern Warfare 2s story will be better then Killzone 2s. So it's already surpassing it, so since the standards have changed, it might get the same score or better.
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Supafly1"] Uncharted 2 is not an FPS like Halo. The only thing in common in both games is that they have guns in them.Norule04

? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.

Halo 3 was the only console FPS this gen that had some original idea's.

Forge

Theater mode

BTW you really think uncharted has an original setting???>

TOMB RAIDER???

Indiana Jones???

The only bigshot game that had an original setting this generation was Bioshock.

Oh and COD4 was original in the use of RPG elements for it's multiplayer (perks etc.)

Lol, here lies a noob to gaming. May he rest in peace.
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#81 TintedEyes
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Never really cared about GT's reviews, but it will be funny as hell when MW2 gets a higher score from them.
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#82 killerfist
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That's hilarious:lol: It got a 9.3 and people still feel the need to complain? Wowzers..
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#83 Norule04
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[QUOTE="Norule04"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] ? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.DragonfireXZ95

Halo 3 was the only console FPS this gen that had some original idea's.

Forge

Theater mode

BTW you really think uncharted has an original setting???>

TOMB RAIDER???

Indiana Jones???

The only bigshot game that had an original setting this generation was Bioshock.

Oh and COD4 was original in the use of RPG elements for it's multiplayer (perks etc.)

Lol, here lies a noob to gaming. May he rest in peace.

I'm a noob because I think that feature wise halo 3 and cod4 are more original than uncharted 2?

Oh wait you must be one of those elitist hermits thinking that consoles are teh inferior?

Tell me how old are you?

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#84 Supafly1
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"]The score is fine, the only thing that pisses me off is that he has to talk about the game "not being original". Halo 3 wasn't close to original but it got 9.8... so in other words, he's just making garbage up. In fact, most of the games that score really high on there AREN'T original at all.

Uncharted 2 is not an FPS like Halo. The only thing in common in both games is that they have guns in them.

? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.

You are complaining that Halo 3 got 9.5 and U2 9.3. I am just reminding you that both games are totally different. Sure both aren't original but how do you know that they were reviewed by the same person? Review is to get a glimpse of the game and its features, reviewer has his own opinion about the game, he probably voted down the originality because he has seen the same stuff used in other games too many times. Maybe he would've had given Halo 3 a lower score too if he had done the review.
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All of a sudden lack of originality is the only flaw a game could possibly have.. turning all other flaws obsolete. Therefore, if MW2 scores higher than UC2 it'd mean that GT are liars contradictory.

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Supafly1"] Uncharted 2 is not an FPS like Halo. The only thing in common in both games is that they have guns in them.Norule04

? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.

Halo 3 was the only console FPS this gen that had some original idea's.

Forge

Theater mode

BTW you really think uncharted has an original setting???>

TOMB RAIDER???

Indiana Jones???

The only bigshot game that had an original setting this generation was Bioshock.

Oh and COD4 was original in the use of RPG elements for it's multiplayer (perks etc.)

lol That's not even worth replying to. Forge isn't original, it's just a bunch of ideas and elements stolen from other games like Garry's Mod and modified a bit and called their own. COD4's perks aren't original at all. They were called power-ups in other FPS, and have been around since games like Unreal Tournament 1999. The only difference is that in COD4, you start off with them and in other games you had to find them in the map. So again, just ideas stolen from other games and modified a bit and calling them their own. Isn't that what GameTrailers was complaining about Uncharted 2 doing? Taking elements from other games, modifying them a bit, and calling them their own? Isn't that what gaming was built on? Not always making something completely new, but improving on what already existed? Like I said, Uncharted 2 isn't the most original game... but since when was that a problem?
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[QUOTE="Supafly1"][QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Supafly1"] Uncharted 2 is not an FPS like Halo. The only thing in common in both games is that they have guns in them.

? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.

You are complaining that Halo 3 got 9.5 and U2 9.3. I am just reminding you that both games are totally different. Sure both aren't original but how do you know that they were reviewed by the same person? Review is to get a glimpse of the game and its features, reviewer has his own opinion about the game, he probably voted down the originality because he has seen the same stuff used in other games too many times. Maybe he would've had given Halo 3 a lower score too if he had done the review.

I'm not complaining about the scores, I honestly don't care about the scores... I care a lot more about the fact that he complained about the lack of originality in one game even though he's reviewing on a site that obviously doesn't usually give a crap if a game's original or not, but if it's good.
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#88 Norule04
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[QUOTE="Norule04"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] ? What the hell does the genre have to do with anything I said in my post? I was talking about originality. Something Halo 3 has NONE of. How many alien FPS are ount there? Way too many to name off the top of your head. How many treasure hunter platforming adventure/3rd person shooters are there out there? Not many. I can only think of Tomb Raider, but even then they're not that similar. I'd say UC2, though not that original, is still a ton more original than a lot of these generic FPS games that get praised to high heaven these days. What's original about COD4? Nothing, it has to be one of the least original games ever made. Yet they gave it a 9.4 and mentioned nothing about it's lack of originality.(Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge COD fan... there really isn't anything original about it) They're self-contradictory and that's why people are pissed.Messiahbolical-

Halo 3 was the only console FPS this gen that had some original idea's.

Forge

Theater mode

BTW you really think uncharted has an original setting???>

TOMB RAIDER???

Indiana Jones???

The only bigshot game that had an original setting this generation was Bioshock.

Oh and COD4 was original in the use of RPG elements for it's multiplayer (perks etc.)

lol That's not even worth replying to. Forge isn't original, it's just a bunch of ideas and elements stolen from other games like Garry's Mod and modified a bit and called their own. COD4's perks aren't original at all. They were called power-ups in other FPS, and have been around since games like Unreal Tournament 1999. The only difference is that in COD4, you start off with them and in other games you had to find them in the map. So again, just ideas stolen from other games and modified a bit and calling them their own. Isn't that what GameTrailers was complaining about Uncharted 2 doing? Taking elements from other games, modifying them a bit, and calling them their own? Isn't that what gaming was built on? Not always making something completely new, but improving on what already existed? Like I said, Uncharted 2 isn't the most original game... but since when was that a problem?

I'm talking about Consoles first of all and second of all I'm talking about THIS GENERATION. Tell me does uncharted 2 have ANYTHING that is remotely original on consoles and this generation???

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Norule04"]

Halo 3 was the only console FPS this gen that had some original idea's.

Forge

Theater mode

BTW you really think uncharted has an original setting???>

TOMB RAIDER???

Indiana Jones???

The only bigshot game that had an original setting this generation was Bioshock.

Oh and COD4 was original in the use of RPG elements for it's multiplayer (perks etc.)

Norule04

Lol, here lies a noob to gaming. May he rest in peace.

I'm a noob because I think that feature wise halo 3 and cod4 are more original than uncharted 2?

Oh wait you must be one of those elitist hermits thinking that consoles are teh inferior?

Tell me how old are you?

So now you are changing what you are saying? Before you said the games were original, not more original than Uncharted 2. It's hard to debate with someone when they constantly change what they say in the first place. Halo had already had 2 games before it and countless other space marine games that it had taken elements from. Forge is not original, neither is theater mode. CoD4... well I don't even have to go into that one. Many games had already been using leveling in multiplayer, hell there have been CS mods around for years called Warcraft mode, that allow you to level up and use new powers. It's nothing new at all. My age has nothing to do with it, although since you are curious, I'm 24. :P
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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"][QUOTE="Norule04"]

Halo 3 was the only console FPS this gen that had some original idea's.

Forge

Theater mode

BTW you really think uncharted has an original setting???>

TOMB RAIDER???

Indiana Jones???

The only bigshot game that had an original setting this generation was Bioshock.

Oh and COD4 was original in the use of RPG elements for it's multiplayer (perks etc.)

Norule04

lol That's not even worth replying to. Forge isn't original, it's just a bunch of ideas and elements stolen from other games like Garry's Mod and modified a bit and called their own. COD4's perks aren't original at all. They were called power-ups in other FPS, and have been around since games like Unreal Tournament 1999. The only difference is that in COD4, you start off with them and in other games you had to find them in the map. So again, just ideas stolen from other games and modified a bit and calling them their own. Isn't that what GameTrailers was complaining about Uncharted 2 doing? Taking elements from other games, modifying them a bit, and calling them their own? Isn't that what gaming was built on? Not always making something completely new, but improving on what already existed? Like I said, Uncharted 2 isn't the most original game... but since when was that a problem?

I'm talking about Consoles first of all and second of all I'm talking about THIS GENERATION. Tell me does uncharted 2 have ANYTHING that is remotely original on consoles and this generation???

Again, you're changing the rules and now allowing only games from this generation? I don't think you're worth the time to debate with.
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#92 Norule04
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[QUOTE="Norule04"]

[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] lol That's not even worth replying to. Forge isn't original, it's just a bunch of ideas and elements stolen from other games like Garry's Mod and modified a bit and called their own. COD4's perks aren't original at all. They were called power-ups in other FPS, and have been around since games like Unreal Tournament 1999. The only difference is that in COD4, you start off with them and in other games you had to find them in the map. So again, just ideas stolen from other games and modified a bit and calling them their own. Isn't that what GameTrailers was complaining about Uncharted 2 doing? Taking elements from other games, modifying them a bit, and calling them their own? Isn't that what gaming was built on? Not always making something completely new, but improving on what already existed? Like I said, Uncharted 2 isn't the most original game... but since when was that a problem?DragonfireXZ95

I'm talking about Consoles first of all and second of all I'm talking about THIS GENERATION. Tell me does uncharted 2 have ANYTHING that is remotely original on consoles and this generation???

Again, you're changing the rules and now allowing only games from this generation? I don't think you're worth the time to debate with.

Seriously are you blind?

Edit dammit why did gamespot leave out my first reply in the quote.

Like I said I didn't change the rules I already stated consoles only and this generation.

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lol That's not even worth replying to. Forge isn't original, it's just a bunch of ideas and elements stolen from other games like Garry's Mod and modified a bit and called their own. COD4's perks aren't original at all. They were called power-ups in other FPS, and have been around since games like Unreal Tournament 1999. The only difference is that in COD4, you start off with them and in other games you had to find them in the map. So again, just ideas stolen from other games and modified a bit and calling them their own. Isn't that what GameTrailers was complaining about Uncharted 2 doing? Taking elements from other games, modifying them a bit, and calling them their own? Isn't that what gaming was built on? Not always making something completely new, but improving on what already existed? Like I said, Uncharted 2 isn't the most original game... but since when was that a problem?Messiahbolical-

It still got a 9.3. What were you expecting? A 10? Spare me! It got a 9.5 here and on IGN.

That's 9.5 on both GS and IGN, and a 9.3 on GT. Have you even played either Halo 3 or Uncharted 2? Because I'd say Halo 3's Theatre mode is pretty original and unique.

But I know you've played Halo ODST, since it says on your profile that you gave it a whopping score of 1.0/10.

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[QUOTE="Zaibach"]

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]

wow really people, you complaining about a 9.3 score, it's a freaking 9.3, I wonder what would be the reaction if he actually flopped the game.

But he is also stupid because he is not making a good point with his originality comment too.

"Gears of War 2 was released a year ago. The original Gears of War was released way before that. So the expectations change over time. You can't just create a 'me too' game where you grab all the best features from all the games that are over a year old and expect to get the same score a year later for those same features."

I wonder what he thinks of MW2 lol, how about them yearly sports games.

All games are me too when it comes to the regeneration health system that Halo : CE did, I don't know what the heck is he talking about?

Damn he is making it worse for him :lol:

Again taking ideas and refine/making a better use of is part of originality.

Thats what the first Gears of War did with the cover system, they took unoriginal concept and made it their own.

He is just not making a good point about his defense.

Blixxed

thats exactly what i've been saying, MW2 canr score more than KZ2 by that logic right?

No, because as the standards go up, so does the quality of the games. And I'm 99% sure Modern Warfare 2s story will be better then Killzone 2s. So it's already surpassing it, so since the standards have changed, it might get the same score or better.

Wait!! so youre saying gears 2's story is better than Uncharted 2?

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] lol That's not even worth replying to. Forge isn't original, it's just a bunch of ideas and elements stolen from other games like Garry's Mod and modified a bit and called their own. COD4's perks aren't original at all. They were called power-ups in other FPS, and have been around since games like Unreal Tournament 1999. The only difference is that in COD4, you start off with them and in other games you had to find them in the map. So again, just ideas stolen from other games and modified a bit and calling them their own. Isn't that what GameTrailers was complaining about Uncharted 2 doing? Taking elements from other games, modifying them a bit, and calling them their own? Isn't that what gaming was built on? Not always making something completely new, but improving on what already existed? Like I said, Uncharted 2 isn't the most original game... but since when was that a problem?SpinoRaptor24

It still got a 9.3. What were you expecting? A 10? Spare me! It got a 9.5 here and on IGN.

That's 9.5 on both GS and IGN, and a 9.3 on GT. Have you even played either Halo 3 or Uncharted 2? Because I'd say Halo 3's Theatre mode is pretty original and unique.

But I know you've played Halo ODST, since it says on your profile that you gave it a whopping score of 1.0/10.

Wow that explains a lot

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Gametrailers review is very bad: they spoil almost every cutscene in the game. And 9.3 is nod a very good score to a highly anticipated console game: console games start to worth at 8.0, the rank is from 8.0 to 10.0, so a 9.3 game is a 6.5.

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#98 Messiahbolical-
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Like I said I didn't change the rules I already stated consoles only and this generation.

Norule04
Don't you realize that by stating "consoles only" and "this generation", you're just admitting that in the grand scheme of things(All games, all platforms, all generations) the two things you said aren't original at all. Having to hide behind a crutch doesn't make your games original. I never said Uncharted 2 was original. In fact, I specifically admitted that it's not original... but you still refuse to admit that Halo 3 and COD4 aren't original either. And I still doubt you're going to admit it too. So this will probably be my last reply to you, since you're so ignorant and don't want to admit the truth that you have to hide your games behind a crutch in order to justify their "originality"(even though you could only come up with 1 thing per game anyways, and both have been disproved).
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[QUOTE="Blixxed"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]thats exactly what i've been saying, MW2 canr score more than KZ2 by that logic right?

Zaibach

No, because as the standards go up, so does the quality of the games. And I'm 99% sure Modern Warfare 2s story will be better then Killzone 2s. So it's already surpassing it, so since the standards have changed, it might get the same score or better.

Wait!! so youre saying gears 2's story is better than Uncharted 2?

Are you saying it is? Wow, I didn't know it was October 13th already and you beat the game as well!
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#100 Blixxed
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Gametrailers review is very bad: they spoil almost every cutscene in the game. And 9.3 is nod a very good score to a highly anticipated console game: console games start to worth at 8.0, the rank is from 8.0 to 10.0, so a 9.3 game is a 6.5.

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This is one of the stupidest posts I have ever read.