Crack open the champagne!!! Media declares the WINNER OF THIS CONSOLE WAR !!!

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#101 MARIOSDAD_basic
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:lol: Are you kidding me? anyone who actually thinks Wii is not going to win is in denial. Last year everyone thought it would flop, Now its just SHOCK ppl cant believe it ... aint it great! id say you guys are around denial/anger stage

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#102 jedigemini
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:lol: Are you kidding me? anyone who actually thinks Wii is not going to win is in denial. Last year everyone thought it would flop, Now its just SHOCK ppl cant believe it ... aint it great! id say you guys are around denial/anger stage

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#103 kcpp2b
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[QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

Did you read what this thread is about? It's about claiming the Wii has won already. I dont need to communicate which I meant when the thread is about the Wii being the "winner of this console war" already. Maybe it's your job to read the threads you post in and its titles

jedigemini

Or maybe it's your job to pay more attention to what's going on in the world. Semantics aside, declaring that the Wii has won is correct and good common sense, if a little bit behind the times. Predicting that the PS3 will win is a joke.

I already explained why I think they will win and just barely as I said. I don't just look at sales at the current time. I guess that's your genius way of finding a winner in the end. Bravo.

The Wii and it's Wiimote won't last for five years or more. I think it will die out in about 2-3 years. Again as I said earlier the games will begin to really distance themselves for 360/PS3 in terms of graphics and more in about 2-3 years in which casuals will notice. The PS3's price has nowhere to go but down as well as the 360's while the Wii can go down but it can only do so by so much being that's it' already the lowest price.

On top of that both other consoles haven't really had heavy hitters aside from the surprise heavy hitter that is now Gears of War.

When you look at the future of something you don't just look at current figures and guess that will continue for years and be done with it.

I mean didn't the Gamecube lead in sales at the beginning and then wind up last?

The Wii won't win IMO but that doesn't mean it will be beat like last gen. I said it wlll be a very close race this time with the PS3 barely winning.

Also declairing anything has already won this early into a race is beyond basic logic, especially when we are talking about the entertainment industry, an industry in which just about most companies are wrong in predicting. There are too many factors to say there's a winner already this early.

You just clearly demonstrated your lack of knowledge about this industry and made a mockery of your post.

I asked a question genius... I had heard that on here a couple of times that Gamecube was leading early on at one point... 

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#104 metalmonkey268
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a console war isn't won in the first 6 months.
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#105 M8ingSeezun
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

:lol: Sheep :lol: and thier precious insecure sales ramblings :lol:

They can have all the sales and non-gaming casuals for all I care. There are other platforms to enjoy 3rd party gaming ;) Something the Wii will rarely have. :lol:

jedigemini

 

Just like the DS

 

oh wait

owned.

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

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#106 CyanX73
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The Wii Won Already. lets bring in the New Ps4 and X720arabi_89

 

I heard it was going to be called Xbox 1000.

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#107 hellsing321
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The Wii hasn't won yet. Right now it doesn't seem like there is much of anything that can happen to change the Wii's momentum but anything can happen so, lets wait and see.
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#108 Rhys555
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Well, we're 6 months into this console war and the Wii is dominating MS and Sony so concisely that the mainsteam media seems assured in Nintendo's victory. Amidst the hundred's of articles citing the Wii incredible success that literally pollute news stands around the globe, in the past week, the Wii's victory has been trumpeted on the cover of 2 major magazine's (EDGE and Fortune), and to be perfectly honest with you, it's going to take nothing short of a miracle for MS and Sony to stop Nintendo this generation.

Whether or not you agree with these proclamations, this kind of exposure and publicity alone... is very, very, good for the Wii. Claims of the Wii's victory heralded on the cover's of major magazines will only contribute to the Wii's success and bring it closer to that reality. You see, the Wii is already winning the most most important part of any console war...

the war of public perception ;) 

jedigemini

get some confirmation off proper market analysts, and give it to years, then we'll talk ;).

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#109 jedigemini
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a console war isn't won in the first 6 months.metalmonkey268
All three consoles are out and the Wii is dominating. You will be hard pressed to find a console in gaming history that dominated its competitors in their first 6 months on the market together and went on to lose the war.... infact, it's never happened before..

Wii ftw.

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#110 Rhys555
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"]

Well, we're 6 months into this console war and the Wii is dominating MS and Sony so concisely that the mainsteam media seems assured in Nintendo's victory. Amidst the hundred's of articles citing the Wii incredible success that literally pollute news stands around the globe, in the past week, the Wii's victory has been trumpeted on the cover of 2 major magazine's (EDGE and Fortune), and to be perfectly honest with you, it's going to take nothing short of a miracle for MS and Sony to stop Nintendo this generation.

Whether or not you agree with these proclamations, this kind of exposure and publicity alone... is very, very, good for the Wii. Claims of the Wii's victory heralded on the cover's of major magazines will only contribute to the Wii's success and bring it closer to that reality. You see, the Wii is already winning the most most important part of any console war...

the war of public perception ;) 

Rhys555

get some confirmation off proper market analysts, and give it 2 years, then we'll talk ;).

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#111 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

:lol: Sheep :lol: and thier precious insecure sales ramblings :lol:

They can have all the sales and non-gaming casuals for all I care. There are other platforms to enjoy 3rd party gaming ;) Something the Wii will rarely have. :lol:

M8ingSeezun

 

Just like the DS

 

oh wait

owned.

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

so you're bashing other people because you have a different opinion? :|
talk about cocky.
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#112 metalmonkey268
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[QUOTE="metalmonkey268"]a console war isn't won in the first 6 months.jedigemini

All three consoles are out and the Wii is dominating. You will be hard pressed to find a console in gaming history that dominated its competitors in their first 6 months on the market together and went on to lose the war.... infact, it's never happened before..

Wii ftw.

 

this generation is so different than any generation previous.

you also cannot used the past to dictate the future.

claiming a winner now is silly. times change, people change, the mass market sways in the way of whatever is "hot". dont kid yourself, the wii is hot in the mainstream, and that's what's making it sell so well. if it wasn't hot, then all three consoles would be selling the same (except the 360 in japan)

for all you know, the mainstream media will sway towards the next piece of cool technology and the wii's mainstream appeal will fade.

 

don't count your chickens before they hatch. 

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#113 M8ingSeezun
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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"][QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

:lol: Sheep :lol: and thier precious insecure sales ramblings :lol:

They can have all the sales and non-gaming casuals for all I care. There are other platforms to enjoy 3rd party gaming ;) Something the Wii will rarely have. :lol:

nintendo-4life

 

Just like the DS

 

oh wait

owned.

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

so you're bashing other people because you have a different opinion? :|
talk about cocky.

That's not bashing....at least not in the extreme uber sense. Stop twisting the scenerio here. This is SW...if you think this is "bashing" and can't handle the heat, GTFO. I was only laughing at the TC's "crystal ball."

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#114 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

:lol: Sheep :lol: and thier precious insecure sales ramblings :lol:

They can have all the sales and non-gaming casuals for all I care. There are other platforms to enjoy 3rd party gaming ;) Something the Wii will rarely have. :lol:

M8ingSeezun

 

Just like the DS

 

oh wait

owned.

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

so you're bashing other people because you have a different opinion? :|
talk about cocky.
[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"][QUOTE="Iyethar"][QUOTE="kcpp2b"]

Did you read what this thread is about? It's about claiming the Wii has won already. I dont need to communicate which I meant when the thread is about the Wii being the "winner of this console war" already. Maybe it's your job to read the threads you post in and its titles

kcpp2b

Or maybe it's your job to pay more attention to what's going on in the world. Semantics aside, declaring that the Wii has won is correct and good common sense, if a little bit behind the times. Predicting that the PS3 will win is a joke.

I already explained why I think they will win and just barely as I said. I don't just look at sales at the current time. I guess that's your genius way of finding a winner in the end. Bravo.

The Wii and it's Wiimote won't last for five years or more. I think it will die out in about 2-3 years. Again as I said earlier the games will begin to really distance themselves for 360/PS3 in terms of graphics and more in about 2-3 years in which casuals will notice. The PS3's price has nowhere to go but down as well as the 360's while the Wii can go down but it can only do so by so much being that's it' already the lowest price.

On top of that both other consoles haven't really had heavy hitters aside from the surprise heavy hitter that is now Gears of War.

When you look at the future of something you don't just look at current figures and guess that will continue for years and be done with it.

I mean didn't the Gamecube lead in sales at the beginning and then wind up last?

The Wii won't win IMO but that doesn't mean it will be beat like last gen. I said it wlll be a very close race this time with the PS3 barely winning.

Also declairing anything has already won this early into a race is beyond basic logic, especially when we are talking about the entertainment industry, an industry in which just about most companies are wrong in predicting. There are too many factors to say there's a winner already this early.

You just clearly demonstrated your lack of knowledge about this industry and made a mockery of your post.

I asked a question genius... I had heard that on here a couple of times that Gamecube was leading early on at one point... 

from what i know it never lead, it just had a successfl launch, but that didn't last, at least not as much as the Wii anyway
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#115 MikeE21286
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Your right....crack the champagne ......

(seems about right) by my estimation the Wii's Lifecycle is...........over ......about......right now , yep. It's done. CRACK THAT CHAMPAGNE FELLOWS....ONTO THE "NEXT GEN"!

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#116 dragontank28
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how can you say the wii has won yet i really doubt it will keep it demand up this high for to much longer and eventualy the ps3 and the 360 will have price drops and that will drive there sales even more it way too early to call a winner and just because the devloper are suporting the wii now does not mean the will stick with it for the long hall plus all the top games out for the wii right now are all first party games and they are few and far between they always take a long time to relase there games
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#117 SergeantSnitch
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The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered. 

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#118 MARIOSDAD_basic
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The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered. 

SergeantSnitch

HAAH i can do the same thing ... ps3 and 360's days are numbered because great games like Metroid Prime, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Resident Evil:The Umbrella Chronicles havent been released either ;)

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#119 MoldOnHold
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This generation is still young.
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#120 blacktorn
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Good for Nintendo,but it won't be my fav console this gen i know that for sure.
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The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered. 

SergeantSnitch
1.funny, last year the hot items were both HDTVs AND Wiis :| if you honestly think people will NOT buy a Wii simply because they do not own a an HDTV you are delusional, on the other hand people will not buy a 360 or PS3 because they don't own an HDTV ;) 2. if it appeals to joe gamer today, it will appeal to joe gamer tommorow, this is not why it's winning "right now", that's why it's winning overall :| 3.when you combine to console just to beat (and that's barely even) one console, you'd know that that one console sure is a gem :), thanks for making my point. besides, if you have money to buy a 360 AND a PS3, you'd most likely own a Wii anyway. Wii days are numbered?aside from speculation you have nothing to prove this on, also, it has the best summer line up, it's beating the PS3 FIVE to one in japan, and that's with shoratges,praise from the father to the gamer to the media, HIGHLY anticipated titles are on the way,and more support is on the way. sir, you've been served ^_^
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"][QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

:lol: Sheep :lol: and thier precious insecure sales ramblings :lol:

They can have all the sales and non-gaming casuals for all I care. There are other platforms to enjoy 3rd party gaming ;) Something the Wii will rarely have. :lol:

M8ingSeezun

 

Just like the DS

 

oh wait

owned.

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

so you're bashing other people because you have a different opinion? :|
talk about cocky.

That's not bashing....at least not in the extreme uber sense. Stop twisting the scenerio here. This is SW...if you think this is "bashing" and can't handle the heat, GTFO. I was only laughing at the TC's "crystal ball."

mind your manners, you act like you know it all, who the hell do you think you are, level 1 :lol: he didn't use a crystal ball, if you used the thing between your ears you'd know he's just quoting the media genius. wow cocky, stupid, AND offensive :|, let me guess, you're a cow?
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#123 NorthlandMan
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How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

M8ingSeezun

 

 

You are owned because you implied that the Wii would have poor third party support because it is from Nintendo. The DS is also from Nintendo. Here is a list of companies that have shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales

  • Capcom
  • Squarenix
  • Atlus
  • Team Ninja
  • Bioware
  • EA
  • Ubisoft
  • Nippon Ichi
  • Microsoft
  • Codemasters
  • Strategy First
  • Namco

 

The PSP on the other hand is getting a worse beating than your argument. The Wii hasnt won by any means and the level of third party support is prety weak right now but to imply it wont get third party support regardless of its popularity ridiculous

 

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#124 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered.

MARIOSDAD_basic

HAAH i can do the same thing ... ps3 and 360's days are numbered because great games like Metroid Prime, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Resident Evil:The Umbrella Chronicles havent been released either ;)


But the difference in graphics this generation are much bigger between the Wii and the PS3/360.  The only thing you got is Wii-mote controls.
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#125 SergeantSnitch
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered.

nintendo-4life

1.funny, last year the hot items were both HDTVs AND Wiis :| if you honestly think people will NOT buy a Wii simply because they do not own a an HDTV you are delusional, on the other hand people will not buy a 360 or PS3 because they don't own an HDTV ;) 2. if it appeals to joe gamer today, it will appeal to joe gamer tommorow, this is not why it's winning "right now", that's why it's winning overall :| 3.when you combine to console just to beat (and that's barely even) one console, you'd know that that one console sure is a gem :), thanks for making my point. besides, if you have money to buy a 360 AND a PS3, you'd most likely own a Wii anyway. Wii days are numbered?aside from speculation you have nothing to prove this on, also, it has the best summer line up, it's beating the PS3 FIVE to one in japan, and that's with shoratges,praise from the father to the gamer to the media, HIGHLY anticipated titles are on the way,and more support is on the way. sir, you've been served ^_^



HDTV's make up like 25% of the TV market today.  By 2009, SDTV's will be obsolete because analog TV will no longer be televised.  More HDTV's in the home = more Blu-Ray sales, more PS3 sales, and more 360 sales.

PS3/360's upcoming lineup will completely destroy the Wii.  Gamers won't miss out on the games I've mentioned. 

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HDTV's make up like 25% of the TV market today. By 2009, SDTV's will be obsolete because analog TV will no longer be televised. More HDTV's in the home = more Blu-Ray sales, more PS3 sales, and more 360 sales.

PS3/360's upcoming lineup will completely destroy the Wii. Gamers won't miss out on the games I've mentioned.

SergeantSnitch

 

HDTV sales will undoubtedly increase albeit slowly. But the Wii can be played on a HDTV and most casuals see it as far more exciting than the PS3 or 360. In the long run graphics matter less than public eprception and software. The wii has public perception and cawsual software covered so it will win (sorry fanboy). what it doesn't have is quality software of the kind gamers required which will be very important if it is to lure gamers away from the 360 

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You are owned because you implied that the Wii would have poor third party support because it is from Nintendo. The DS is also from Nintendo. Here is a list of companies that have shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales

  • Capcom
  • Squarenix
  • Atlus
  • Team Ninja
  • Bioware
  • EA
  • Ubisoft
  • Nippon Ichi
  • Microsoft
  • Codemasters
  • Strategy First
  • Namco

 

The PSP on the other hand is getting a worse beating than your argument. The Wii hasnt won by any means and the level of third party support is prety weak right now but to imply it wont get third party support regardless of its popularity ridiculous

NorthlandMan


LMAO @ how you put Microsoft on the list of developers that "shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales".

Perhaps you should also mention devs like Konami that have shifted focus to the PSP after having watching their excellent games get outsold by Super Princess Peach.
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#128 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered. 

MARIOSDAD_basic

HAAH i can do the same thing ... ps3 and 360's days are numbered because great games like Metroid Prime, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Resident Evil:The Umbrella Chronicles havent been released either ;)

ooh! wow Super Mario Galaxy, and SSB Brawl are both such great examples of a console seller, aren't they?! Galaxy looks just like Super Mario 64, but with better graphics and Brawl looks just like the last SSB game but with Wario, a volleyball in armor and Solid Snake. :roll:

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#129 squallff8_fan
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[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]It's too early to declare a winner. All consoles will do fine but in the long run the PS3 has the edge, imo.jedigemini
You're kidding... right? :|

He actually is right, and to prove his statement which system from last gen is still doing great right now even though its been out in the market 8 years? Yeah thats right the ps2. If anything, your comment would make more sense towards the ppl saying the wii won this war already. Nothing against the wii, but to say this war is over only after a few months is just setting yourself for a late dissappointment. FACT.

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#130 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered.

SergeantSnitch

1.funny, last year the hot items were both HDTVs AND Wiis :| if you honestly think people will NOT buy a Wii simply because they do not own a an HDTV you are delusional, on the other hand people will not buy a 360 or PS3 because they don't own an HDTV ;) 2. if it appeals to joe gamer today, it will appeal to joe gamer tommorow, this is not why it's winning "right now", that's why it's winning overall :| 3.when you combine to console just to beat (and that's barely even) one console, you'd know that that one console sure is a gem :), thanks for making my point. besides, if you have money to buy a 360 AND a PS3, you'd most likely own a Wii anyway. Wii days are numbered?aside from speculation you have nothing to prove this on, also, it has the best summer line up, it's beating the PS3 FIVE to one in japan, and that's with shoratges,praise from the father to the gamer to the media, HIGHLY anticipated titles are on the way,and more support is on the way. sir, you've been served ^_^



HDTV's make up like 25% of the TV market today.  By 2009, SDTV's will be obsolete because analog TV will no longer be televised.  More HDTV's in the home = more Blu-Ray sales, more PS3 sales, and more 360 sales.

PS3/360's upcoming lineup will completely destroy the Wii.  Gamers won't miss out on the games I've mentioned. 

you don't seem to get my point, if HDTVs really will boost the PS3 sales as you say, then why didn't everyone who bought the HDTV bought a PS3 as well? all they bought is the Wii. and also, having HDTVs will not harm the Wii, however, NOT having an HDTV will harm the X360 and the PS3, so either way, HDTVs shouldn't be feared, it should be embraced, because it's not going to magically change the outcome. and if blu ray really becomes standard? well than that means that there will be better stand alone players, not the PS3, sorry! and again, it's really flattering that you are combining two consoles just to barely beat one console, in my eyes, having that one console is more special than either of the other two you just mentioned. give up, the opints you gave were weak.
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[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]It's too early to declare a winner. All consoles will do fine but in the long run the PS3 has the edge, imo.squallff8_fan

You're kidding... right? :|

He actually is right, and to prove his statement which system from last gen is still doing great right now even though its been out in the market 8 years? Yeah thats right the ps2. If anything, your comment would make more sense towards the ppl saying the wii won this war already. Nothing against the wii, but to say this war is over only after a few months is just setting yourself for a late dissappointment. FACT.

he is wasn't commenting on the "too early to declare a winner" part, it's the latter that boggled his, and my mind.
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#132 deactivated-586249e1b64ba
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[QUOTE="NorthlandMan"]

 

You are owned because you implied that the Wii would have poor third party support because it is from Nintendo. The DS is also from Nintendo. Here is a list of companies that have shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales

  • Capcom
  • Squarenix
  • Atlus
  • Team Ninja
  • Bioware
  • EA
  • Ubisoft
  • Nippon Ichi
  • Microsoft
  • Codemasters
  • Strategy First
  • Namco

 

The PSP on the other hand is getting a worse beating than your argument. The Wii hasnt won by any means and the level of third party support is prety weak right now but to imply it wont get third party support regardless of its popularity ridiculous

Teufelhuhn



LMAO @ how you put Microsoft on the list of developers that "shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales".

Perhaps you should also mention devs like Konami that have shifted focus to the PSP after having watching their excellent games get outsold by Super Princess Peach.

Wait...what!? I don't really keep track of game sales but a huge WTF if you can find a link to prove this.

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LMAO @ how you put Microsoft on the list of developers that "shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales".

Perhaps you should also mention devs like Konami that have shifted focus to the PSP after having watching their excellent games get outsold by Super Princess Peach.
Teufelhuhn

and Konami titles have done very well actually all things considered. Lunar Knights was great but was still essentially a GBA game. Castlevania is the definition of hardcore and it has had very respectable sales (around 300k i think) which is great. Konami have never shifted support to the PSP, they've always supported the PSP. compare the production values of MGS and Silent hill to the crap they put out on the DS. It's coming back to bite them in the ass now though since nobody is buying games for the failed handheld anymore. They like many other developers are going to have to adapt or die

As for super princess peach outselling konami games, that's nothing to be ashamed of. It is after all a first party Nintendo title marketed at females and it is on a console that has a very diverse mix of owners. At least their games actually sell on the DS, it is after all the superior handheld

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#134 The_Ish
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[QUOTE="MARIOSDAD_basic"]

:lol: Are you kidding me? anyone who actually thinks Wii is not going to win is in denial. Last year everyone thought it would flop, Now its just SHOCK ppl cant believe it ... aint it great! id say you guys are around denial/anger stage

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:twisted:

 

jedigemini

Greatest post ever.

I know right? I love owning a Wii and never playing it! Its the best ever!

 

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#135 Idonomeus
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To me the winner is the console with the best games and to judge that in system wars we use Gamespot's AA and AAA rated games. Whoever has the most in 5 years will be the winner IMO. Of course my personal winner is the most important and that won't rely on how much anyone besides myself enjoys the consoles.
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#137 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]

LMAO @ how you put Microsoft on the list of developers that "shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales".

Perhaps you should also mention devs like Konami that have shifted focus to the PSP after having watching their excellent games get outsold by Super Princess Peach.
NorthlandMan

and Konami titles have done very well actually all things considered. Lunar Knights was great but was still essentially a GBA game. Castlevania is the definition of hardcore and it has had very respectable sales (around 300k i think) which is great. Konami have never shifted support to the PSP, they've always supported the PSP. compare the production values of MGS and Silent hill to the crap they put out on the DS. It's coming back to bite them in the ass now though since nobody is buying games for the failed handheld anymore. They like many other developers are going to have to adapt or die

As for super princess peach outselling konami games, that's nothing to be ashamed of. It is after all a first party Nintendo title marketed at females and it is on a console that has a very diverse mix of owners. At least their games actually sell on the DS, it is after all the superior handheld



I brought up MS because you implied they developed games for the PSP before they made DS games. Sony is their #1 enemy, they would make DS games regardless of sales.

And as for Konami, surely their PSP sales aren't poor otherwise they wouldn't still be developing for it (and moving franchises like Castlevania over from DS). :wink:
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#138 M8ingSeezun
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[QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

NorthlandMan

You are owned because you implied that the Wii would have poor third party support because it is from Nintendo. The DS is also from Nintendo. Here is a list of companies that have shifted focus to the DS away from the PSP after its amazing sales

  • Capcom
  • Squarenix
  • Atlus
  • Team Ninja
  • Bioware
  • EA
  • Ubisoft
  • Nippon Ichi
  • Microsoft
  • Codemasters
  • Strategy First
  • Namco

 

The PSP on the other hand is getting a worse beating than your argument. The Wii hasnt won by any means and the level of third party support is prety weak right now but to imply it wont get third party support regardless of its popularity ridiculous

 

WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT??????

Are you that pathetically desperate to PICK A FIGHT? Stop shoving words into my mouth. I never have said anything about the PSP or DS or anything negative about the DS. I'm talking about the Wii in response to the TC's assumption of Wii "domination." I'm sticking to my point. Read my 1st ever post on this thread. All I said about the DS is its fine portable for what's its design to be. And that's it.

In regards to Wii and 3rd party support.....I'm talking about relying on other platforms for 3rd party support simply because, HERE'S MY OPIONION......GET READY......they're my type of games and genres. That's why I rather rely on the other platforms for it. ;) Wii's 3rd party lineup whatever the hell that is, is purely subjective to opinions........YOU may like it (as well as Sheep) and think they're the bomb that's YOU.........but not for ME. That's why I said ITS ALL A MATTER OF OPINIONS. You don't agree?, which is most likely the case with angry sheep here,........ that's tough....have a cookie.

And stop desperately EXPANDING this idiotic argument you're trying to suck out of me....I said what I meant and that's it. It's simple to the point and obvious!

GET IT????

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#139 Iyethar
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I already explained why I think they will win and just barely as I said. I don't just look at sales at the current time. I guess that's your genius way of finding a winner in the end. Bravo.kcpp2b

Sales trends at the current time is the correct way to predict the console war's outcome.  In every previous generation, a prediction made based on the sales trends 6 months after all consoles were on the market would predict the eventual winner.  It's not genius, merely correct.

The Wii and it's Wiimote won't last for five years or more.kcpp2b

Why not?

I think it will die out in about 2-3 years. Again as I said earlier the games will begin to really distance themselves for 360/PS3 in terms of graphics and more in about 2-3 years in which casuals will notice.kcpp2b

The graphics difference is already huge.  The market does not care.

The PS3's price has nowhere to go but down as well as the 360's while the Wii can go down but it can only do so by so much being that's it' already the lowest price.kcpp2b

That doesn't matter.  The Wii is below the mass-market price threshhold now.  By the time either competitor reaches that point, the Wii will have established itself as the dominant victor - at which point it would outsell its competitors even if they were cheaper.

On top of that both other consoles haven't really had heavy hitters aside from the surprise heavy hitter that is now Gears of War.kcpp2b

Too bad for the other consoles that they didn't get compelling software quickly enough to matter. 

When you look at the future of something you don't just look at current figures and guess that will continue for years and be done with it.kcpp2b

Actually, in the console industry you look at current figures and extrapolate based on the firm historical pattern that sales trends only diverge further and further.  The industry is entirely centered around momentum, so in the future Wii is likely to be outselling its competition to an even greater degree. 

I mean didn't the Gamecube lead in sales at the beginning and then wind up last?kcpp2b

Not at all. 

The Wii won't win IMOkcpp2b

Your opinion is irrelevant to the Wii's success or failure. 

but that doesn't mean it will be beat like last gen. I said it wlll be a very close race this time with the PS3 barely winning.kcpp2b

You're wrong.  The PS3 is guaranteed not to win this console war.

Also declairing anything has already won this early into a race is beyond basic logic, especially when we are talking about the entertainment industry, an industry in which just about most companies are wrong in predicting. There are too many factors to say there's a winner already this early.kcpp2b

Tell that to Sony.  They predicted that the PS2 would be the dominant victor at this same point in the last generation, for the same reasons that I am now predicting that the Wii will be the dominant victor in this generation.  They were correct at that time and I am correct at this time.

Only one factor is truly relevant - sales momentum. 

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#140 MARIOSDAD_basic
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[QUOTE="MARIOSDAD_basic"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered. 

scorch-62

HAAH i can do the same thing ... ps3 and 360's days are numbered because great games like Metroid Prime, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Resident Evil:The Umbrella Chronicles havent been released either ;)

ooh! wow Super Mario Galaxy, and SSB Brawl are both such great examples of a console seller, aren't they?! Galaxy looks just like Super Mario 64, but with better graphics and Brawl looks just like the last SSB game but with Wario, a volleyball in armor and Solid Snake. :roll:

WOW really? ok  Halo 3 looks just like halo 2 but with shinier graphics, gta4 = gta3 with better graphics, god of war 3 = just another GOD 2 update thats it!! :D MASS EFFECT? hasnt been proven ... wow thats such a great system seller, im sure MASS EFFECT will move millions of systems haha

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#141 mjf249
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I wouldn't necessarily say the war is over-- in fact when was the last time the media or journalists in general ever right about the winner? When the PlayStation debuted, everyone thought the Nintendo 64 would totally destroy it, yet the PlayStation sold the most units in it's respective generation. Or how just last generation? Everyone thought Microsoft and Nintendo would keep it close-- only to be totally annhilated by Sony.

I know things look quite grim for Sony, but it's not even fare to compare when it hasn't had any of it's heavyweights come out yet. I don't think the Xbox 360 will win(sadly, its a great console), just because it's in a deeper hole than the Xbox was in Japan. I will however say the Xbox 360 will gain larger market sales. 

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#142 TOTAL_DEFENSE_0
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please, it would be an insult if Nintendo won because they've pretty much forgotten about their hardcore gamers. where's Wii's Gears of War/Killzone 2/ Halo 3/ MGS4? PS3 is down right now but not for long. By the end of the year PS3 is going to start fighting back strong. This war is between 360 and PS3
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#143 enral
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[QUOTE="Riviera_Phantom"]Wii has won. It has won in a market where the only conosle involved is.....The wii. Sorry but wii is so different from 360/PS3 it's not even in the SAME RACE. To say it is would be ignorant as the experience being offered is far too different unlike previous generations. SeptimusV_basic

Hardcore gamers know this, however the masses that have deemed the Wii the winner, including the media, do not. Marketing has shown no differentiation in Nintendo bowing out. It still is the same race, even if technically its not. It IS hindering the sales of the other consoles, while turning an AMAZING profit. Thats all that matters in the real world.

I agree.

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#144 marvelfan
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Wow this dosn't make much sense, I cant believe that main stream mags are jumping the gun like this, it's way to soon to call this. There is a big chance that they will be eating there words, in another 6 months to a year.
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please, it would be an insult if Nintendo won because they've pretty much forgotten about their hardcore gamers. where's Wii's Gears of War/Killzone 2/ Halo 3/ MGS4? PS3 is down right now but not for long. By the end of the year PS3 is going to start fighting back strong. This war is between 360 and PS3TOTAL_DEFENSE_0

I don't feel forgotten by Nintendo, actually. TP was nothing short of amazing, much better than WW, SPM was definitely a great game, and we've got MP3, Mario Galaxy, and Brawl on the horizon. So what if they've released games like Wii Play and Wii Sports for the nongamers, much like the DS, I'm getting exactly what I want with the option of having fun with so-called "non-games" as well. If anything, the Gamecube is when Nintendo fans got hosed, not the Wii.

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#146 nintendo-4life
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"][QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

:lol: Sheep :lol: and thier precious insecure sales ramblings :lol:

They can have all the sales and non-gaming casuals for all I care. There are other platforms to enjoy 3rd party gaming ;) Something the Wii will rarely have. :lol:

M8ingSeezun

 

Just like the DS

 

oh wait

owned.

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

so you're bashing other people because you have a different opinion? :|
talk about cocky.

That's not bashing....at least not in the extreme uber sense. Stop twisting the scenerio here. This is SW...if you think this is "bashing" and can't handle the heat, GTFO. I was only laughing at the TC's "crystal ball."

mind your manners, you act like you know it all, who the hell do you think you are, level 1 :lol: he didn't use a crystal ball, if you used the thing between your ears you'd know he's just quoting the media genius. wow cocky, stupid, AND offensive :|, let me guess, you're a cow?

Sorry for being Level 1...I don't live on these forums.

No Mind your manners. Stop TWISTING the scenerio just to make some kind of idiotic justification on your sheep behalf. Read my 1st ever post on this thread....it wasn't even bashing....more like laughing at the TC and to most sheep.

Cocky??? Sheep or Fanboys in general are just as guility.

And yes he did use his "crystal ball".....by taking into account the media's quotes....and using that and assuming the Wii has already won the console war.....when in fact it barely even started nor even ENDED.

IDIOT.  

really now, just look at the pictures he posted, it clearly says Wii is winning, he's only quoting the media, nothing more :|
i'm no sheep, i'm a manticore, but you're "laughing at someone" or so you would call it, and then defend your post because it's "your opinion" is simply not sifisticated, because you're laughing in the wrong direction.
and yes, the fact that you're a level shows how much you don't know about this forum, who are you to tell me to GTFO? if anything, THAT IS an insult.
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[QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"][QUOTE="nintendo-4life"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"][QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="NorthlandMan"][QUOTE="M8ingSeezun"]

:lol: Sheep :lol: and thier precious insecure sales ramblings :lol:

They can have all the sales and non-gaming casuals for all I care. There are other platforms to enjoy 3rd party gaming ;) Something the Wii will rarely have. :lol:

M8ingSeezun

 

Just like the DS

 

oh wait

owned.

How am I owned? It's a matter of opinion. Something you sheep can't seem to understand (nor accept) when the oposition doesn't seem to agree with you.

I'm not talking about the DS. We're talking Wii here. The DS is a fine portable, for what it's design to be.

so you're bashing other people because you have a different opinion? :|
talk about cocky.

That's not bashing....at least not in the extreme uber sense. Stop twisting the scenerio here. This is SW...if you think this is "bashing" and can't handle the heat, GTFO. I was only laughing at the TC's "crystal ball."

mind your manners, you act like you know it all, who the hell do you think you are, level 1 :lol: he didn't use a crystal ball, if you used the thing between your ears you'd know he's just quoting the media genius. wow cocky, stupid, AND offensive :|, let me guess, you're a cow?

Sorry for being Level 1...I don't live on these forums.

No Mind your manners. Stop TWISTING the scenerio just to make some kind of idiotic justification on your sheep behalf. Read my 1st ever post on this thread....it wasn't even bashing....more like laughing at the TC and to most sheep.

Cocky??? Sheep or Fanboys in general are just as guility.

And yes he did use his "crystal ball".....by taking into account the media's quotes....and using that and assuming the Wii has already won the console war.....when in fact it barely even started nor even ENDED.

IDIOT.  

really now, just look at the pictures he posted, it clearly says Wii is winning, he's only quoting the media, nothing more :|
i'm no sheep, i'm a manticore, but you're "laughing at someone" or so you would call it, and then defend your post because it's "your opinion" is simply not sifisticated, because you're laughing in the wrong direction.
and yes, the fact that you're a level shows how much you don't know about this forum, who are you to tell me to GTFO? if anything, THAT IS an insult.
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="MARIOSDAD_basic"][QUOTE="SergeantSnitch"]

The Wii is only winning right now because

1) HDTV's aren't the norm yet

2) It appeals to Joe Consumer

3) Great games like MGS4, GTA4, Halo 3, Mass Effect, God Of War 3, DMC4, FFXIII, and a ton of others haven't released.

The Wii's days are numbered. 

MARIOSDAD_basic

HAAH i can do the same thing ... ps3 and 360's days are numbered because great games like Metroid Prime, Super Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Resident Evil:The Umbrella Chronicles havent been released either ;)

ooh! wow Super Mario Galaxy, and SSB Brawl are both such great examples of a console seller, aren't they?! Galaxy looks just like Super Mario 64, but with better graphics and Brawl looks just like the last SSB game but with Wario, a volleyball in armor and Solid Snake. :roll:

WOW really? ok  Halo 3 looks just like halo 2 but with shinier graphics, gta4 = gta3 with better graphics, god of war 3 = just another GOD 2 update thats it!! :D MASS EFFECT? hasnt been proven ... wow thats such a great system seller, im sure MASS EFFECT will move millions of systems haha

Halo 3?! how can you bash Halo 3 and live with yourself?! GTA 4... okay i agree with you there, but not totally. God of War 3 is going to be awesome just because it [should] end the series, and i haven't seen anything for Mass Effect :( i'm so far behind... Wii = pwned, raped and any other unpleasant thing that can happen to it

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#149 darthogre
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This is hilliarious....how the Wii won?  Without even one game that is worth buying the console for?

The people writing these articles probably don't even play games so it's no wonder they think Wii is the winner after 6 months lol.

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I brought up MS because you implied they developed games for the PSP before they made DS games. Sony is their #1 enemy, they would make DS games regardless of sales.

And as for Konami, surely their PSP sales aren't poor otherwise they wouldn't still be developing for it (and moving franchises like Castlevania over from DS). :wink:Teufelhuhn

My mistake, a few of those developers were those who had always focused on the DS more than the PSP. But the point remains, DS third party support >>>>PSP third party support.

As for "moving" castlevania of the PSP, i dont see how porting/remaking some old castlevania games counts as a betrayal in any way. You can bet your bottom dollar that the DS will be getting all the new castlevania games. Igarishi has publicly stated that the castlevania team think that the PSP is pretty crap.  and I doubt that many DS fans are upset, after al we're not really into ports ;)

As for PSP software sales , you dont have to be a genius to realsie that they're actually pretty mediocre. There are still barely any million sellers on the machine (i think that there are only about 5) and the bests selling game is still a multiplat GTA spinoff that isn't very good. In contrast DS sales have never been healthier