Crysis 2 and RAGE are proof that the 360 is more powerful then the PS3 (no 56K)

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#101 Toriko42
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I think it proves the 360 is easier to exploit and get the best results from but that's to be expected because of the one year advance in developer experience and the complexity of the PS3's hardware. Both are actually pretty much equal.
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#102 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="PSdual_wielder"]

How about someone post some non-offscreen shots before declaring anything?

The screens on page 7 of this thread even had the TV blurred out on the PS3 pic, that must be REALLY fair competition isn't it?

PSdual_wielder

Yes because a better TV (although they were the same models) will magiclly add Ambient and High Dynamic lighting to the PS3 version. :roll:

if you're saying the ps3 version lacks those you could just be a bit more direct. The thing is with the current amount of materials both side has there is no fair competition. I could say the PS3 version has better textures and give you no supporting evidence other than the offscreens currently available, and you can't refute my claim despite how hard you try. I could even say cryengine 3 at this state looks even worse than killzone 2 because there's HD videos of one game and none of the other.

So yeah I'd wait for some real screenshots and videos to show up before saying anything.

So now you want irrefutable proof and my screen shots arn't admissible as such... :roll: You have eye's...if they tell you the PS3 version looks better then go with it. I made an observation and to me it's pretty clear...if you can't see that then no matter what I show you, it won't matter.

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#103 Nonstop-Madness
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The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version.
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#104 Shattered007
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The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version. Nonstop-Madness
How can it be a superior version if it's missing fretures?

EDIT: Features are lowerd on one console?

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#105 aaronmullan
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Every demo that I have seen has show Cry Engine 2 to look slightly better on the PS3, and John Carmack (programing and hardware god) has said several times that the PS3 is the slightly more powerful console, albeit harder to develop for, and has also stated that Blu-Ray is a large advantage when using his new texturing methods.

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/thread. Yup, PS3 is just harder to develop for.
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#107 Nonstop-Madness
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version. Shattered007

How can it be a superior version if it's missing fretures?

EDIT: Features are lowerd on one console?

idk, maybe textures or draw distance or physics etc.
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#108 Renjinrezo
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version. Shattered007

How can it be a superior version if it's missing fretures?

EDIT: Features are lowerd on one console?

I think the dev. meant that PS3 has more potential. Oh and lighting thing isn't exactly true, RSX should be capable to do full hdr but without using AA (The architecture doesn't let the usage of both; the old Nvidia cards). The lighting is still strange though,in my opinion, being very unnatural in both (most likely because of it being off-screen). As mentioned(or not lol)before I will rather wait for a better comparison.

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#109 WildDangles92
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Nisim19...you are officially the new Pimp_Dog, that is until he makes a new alt account

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#110 Adrian_Cloud
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The Last Gaurdian looks better. :|
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#111 Bladex2k
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wow you compairing a mitiplat game duh 360 will look better.... mgs4/kz2 any1?

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#112 doubleblahzors2
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lol @ people thinking ps3 games look worse because of the developers. it's because ps3 hardware has less memory and less advanced gpu to work with, cpu might be more powerful but it's not gonna give it the edge in graphics.
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#114 Nisim19
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The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version. Nonstop-Madness
yap like GHOSTBASTERS devs say that the PS3 is the superior version lol dev say that becuse the PS3 ver of multiplat games dont sell good as the 360 ver
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#115 Classic24
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ROFL you little kids are really stupid, the ps3 has 512 mb of memory, same as the xbox 360, cevat yerli, the head at crytek SAID THE PS3 WAS MORE POWERFUL i mean after that its basically done arguing lol PS3 wins
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#116 doubleblahzors2
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The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version. Nonstop-Madness
Where is this link?
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#117 usule
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ROFL you little kids are really stupid, the ps3 has 512 mb of memory, same as the xbox 360, cevat yerli, the head at crytek SAID THE PS3 WAS MORE POWERFUL i mean after that its basically done arguing lol PS3 winsClassic24
If only CEVAT hasn't said that "the PS3 is the lowest denominator" in between PS3 / 360 / PC you could have been right...
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#118 doubleblahzors2
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ROFL you little kids are really stupid, the ps3 has 512 mb of memory, same as the xbox 360, cevat yerli, the head at crytek SAID THE PS3 WAS MORE POWERFUL i mean after that its basically done arguing lol PS3 winsClassic24
no ps3 has 256 mb ram dedicated for the gpu and 256 mb dedicated for the cpu xbox360 has 512 mb and the cpu/gpu share it each uses any amount that's needed
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[QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version. doubleblahzors2
Where is this link?

http://pc.ign.com/articles/966/966403p2.html, top of the second page.
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#121 razgriz_101
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How about someone post some non-offscreen shots before declaring anything?

The screens on page 7 of this thread even had the TV blurred out on the PS3 pic, that must be REALLY fair competition isn't it?

PSdual_wielder

yeah thats what i was thinking? kinda skews the point in the comparassin.

Not too bothered both look pretty similar to me ifi was to imagine myself playing it but thats the way i think.

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#122 doubleblahzors2
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[QUOTE="doubleblahzors2"][QUOTE="Nonstop-Madness"]The only difference is lighting. 360 can do Full HDR while the PS3 does Low HDR, although Cevat did say that the PS3 is the superior version. Nonstop-Madness
Where is this link?

http://pc.ign.com/articles/966/966403p2.html, top of the second page.

it's the samething yeri said before ps3 will run better in some situations and xbox360 will run better in others. except ign cut off the 360 part to spin it lol.
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#123 Bladex2k
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omg look at this cryeng3 on ps3 wtf looks so NICE

LINK http://ps3.ign.com/dor/articles/1014415/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html;jsessionid=4cslj2gqapmgk

go to 3 mins into video wow its almost like the pc

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#124 Next-Gen-Tec
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I saw the PS3 demonstration, and the frame rate was pretty unstable. The short clips of the side by side comparison looked like 360 version ran a bit smoother, this is my honest opinion. Of course this wouldn't mean 360 is more powerful than PS3 though, but I am impressed of how developers can simultaneously create very similar games, very easily.
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#125 doubleblahzors2
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After the huge failure crysis warhead is atleast by my standards, who gives a damn about crytek or their crappy outdated destruction engine. lol red faction guerilla is where it's at kids, crysis you can only destroy a 1 story 1 room building and everything in the world you cant destroy except a tree , on red faction guerilla you can destroy multiple room multistory buildings and destroy everything. red faction's destruction is so much more advanced.
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#126 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="doubleblahzors2"]After the huge failure crysis warhead is atleast by my standards, who gives a damn about crytek or their crappy outdated destruction engine. lol red faction guerilla is where it's at kids, crysis you can only destroy a 1 story 1 room building and everything in the world you cant destroy except a tree , on red faction guerilla you can destroy multiple room multistory buildings and destroy everything. red faction's destruction is so much more advanced.

the demo i played failed to prove that point as well as being the "buildings" are empty.....
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I saw the PS3 demonstration, and the frame rate was pretty unstable. The short clips of the side by side comparison looked like 360 version ran a bit smoother, this is my honest opinion. Of course this wouldn't mean 360 is more powerful than PS3 though, but I am impressed of how developers can simultaneously create very similar games, very easily.Next-Gen-Tec
this is a direct feed off the ps3 and is a 9 min long video from ign

LINK http://ps3.ign.com/dor/articles/1014415/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html;jsessionid=4cslj2gqapmgk

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#129 usule
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[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]I saw the PS3 demonstration, and the frame rate was pretty unstable. The short clips of the side by side comparison looked like 360 version ran a bit smoother, this is my honest opinion. Of course this wouldn't mean 360 is more powerful than PS3 though, but I am impressed of how developers can simultaneously create very similar games, very easily.Bladex2k

this is a direct feed off the ps3 and is a 9 min long video from ign

LINK http://ps3.ign.com/dor/articles/1014415/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html;jsessionid=4cslj2gqapmgk

Yeah it's in this IGN video that Cevat says at the end the ps3 is the lowest denominator in between the 360/PC/PS3.
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#130 Nonstop-Madness
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[QUOTE="Bladex2k"]

[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]I saw the PS3 demonstration, and the frame rate was pretty unstable. The short clips of the side by side comparison looked like 360 version ran a bit smoother, this is my honest opinion. Of course this wouldn't mean 360 is more powerful than PS3 though, but I am impressed of how developers can simultaneously create very similar games, very easily.usule

this is a direct feed off the ps3 and is a 9 min long video from ign

LINK http://ps3.ign.com/dor/articles/1014415/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html;jsessionid=4cslj2gqapmgk

Yeah it's in this IGN video that Cevat says at the end the ps3 is the lowest denominator in between the 360/PC/PS3.

not really, he just says the PS3 has the weaker GPU but they have found ways to make the versions the same. (of course excluding the PC)
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#131 Bladex2k
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yea cuz those dam spu are harder to program for lol

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#132 Next-Gen-Tec
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[QUOTE="Next-Gen-Tec"]I saw the PS3 demonstration, and the frame rate was pretty unstable. The short clips of the side by side comparison looked like 360 version ran a bit smoother, this is my honest opinion. Of course this wouldn't mean 360 is more powerful than PS3 though, but I am impressed of how developers can simultaneously create very similar games, very easily.Bladex2k

this is a direct feed off the ps3 and is a 9 min long video from ign

LINK http://ps3.ign.com/dor/articles/1014415/gc-2009-cry-engine-3-demo/videos/gcom09act_crytek_demo2_081709.html;jsessionid=4cslj2gqapmgk

Yep, that's the one I was talking about. Thanks for the link.
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#133 KingsMessenger
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I saw the PS3 demonstration, and the frame rate was pretty unstable. The short clips of the side by side comparison looked like 360 version ran a bit smoother, this is my honest opinion. Of course this wouldn't mean 360 is more powerful than PS3 though, but I am impressed of how developers can simultaneously create very similar games, very easily.Next-Gen-Tec
The framerate was stable except for when the character was inside the tunnel portions that was there for loading purposes only(every environment change started with a walk through the same tunnel. That tunnel is there to mask the loading of the level).
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#134 zarshack
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Doesnt sound like you tried very hard with your research, Carmak already debunked that 20-30 FPS on PS3 talk.

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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="doubleblahzors2"]After the huge failure crysis warhead is atleast by my standards, who gives a damn about crytek or their crappy outdated destruction engine. lol red faction guerilla is where it's at kids, crysis you can only destroy a 1 story 1 room building and everything in the world you cant destroy except a tree , on red faction guerilla you can destroy multiple room multistory buildings and destroy everything. red faction's destruction is so much more advanced.

the demo i played failed to prove that point as well as being the "buildings" are empty.....

seems to me you havent played red faction guerilla. there's stuff in the buldings. plus crysis you can only destroy a shack lol, it's destruction is a pure joke compared to red faction.
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#136 doubleblahzors2
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volition>crytek somehow red faction guerilla you can destroy everything in a level except maybe a dumpster. awhile crysis you can only destroy 1 or 2 things. and somehow volition managed to make their engine have no pop in on xbox360 demo i played. and crytek's engine has pop in like crazy objects appearing right out of thin air right infront of you. red faction guerilla also has dynamic lighting just no day and night time cycle which im sure volitions engine could do anyway. not a big deal about day/night stuff.
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#137 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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I cant see a difference between crysis 2 on 360 and ps3 :?

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#138 12345678ew
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*facepalm*, they don't have full RGB and superwhite enabled on ps3. they look identicle if you enable those, the 360 just doesn't have the option to turn them off. ign does this on purpose, and the 360 will always look better on IGN, because they take the screenshots with bad settings...

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#139 Puckhog04
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And both will pale in comparison to the PC version of each.

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#140 Androvinus
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lol. almost looks as good as killzone 2
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#141 tenaka2
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In my opinion the ps3 images are better, the 360 has loads of lens flare and little detail, the ps3 pics have more colour and the lighting isn't overboard.

I'm a hermit btw.

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#142 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

In my opinion the ps3 images are better, the 360 has loads of lens flare and little detail, the ps3 pics have more colour and the lighting isn't overboard.

I'm a hermit btw.

thats what i thought aswell.
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#143 sethman410
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A port from a PC version... This doesn't prove anything. But ps3 is more powerful than the 360. *looks at Uncharted 2 and Kz2.*
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#144 shoemen22
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its a game engine designed around directx both consoles can do those graphics its just easier to get it to run on the 360 this doesnt prove anything but games made just for the ps3 have always been known to be better graphics then that of the 360 games
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#145 anshuk20002
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ps3 is more powerful but not by that much

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#146 KingsMessenger
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In my opinion the ps3 images are better, the 360 has loads of lens flare and little detail, the ps3 pics have more colour and the lighting isn't overboard.

I'm a hermit btw.

tenaka2
The detail between the two is basically the same, because they use practically the same assets. The 360 version has more HDR(there is no lens flare effect) and the monitor is set to a higher contrast level.
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#147 Nisim19
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A port from a PC version... This doesn't prove anything. But ps3 is more powerful than the 360. *looks at Uncharted 2 and Kz2.*sethman410
crysis 2 >>>>>>>>> U2 and KZ2 and crysis 2 is best on the 360 (after the PC ) so yes 360 > PS3
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#148 mr-krinkles
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I think outdoors it obviously looks better on the 360 version.

Come on are you seriously telling me you don't see a difference there? 360 seems to benefit from much better HDR and the colours seem much richer (PS3 has a washed out look). Also check out the difference between the shaders on the gun and arm. PS3 doesn't have that shadowing. This is coming from a PS3 only owner, too.

There's not that much difference, but it definitely is there.

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#150 Nisim19
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[QUOTE="Nisim19"][QUOTE="sethman410"]A port from a PC version... This doesn't prove anything. But ps3 is more powerful than the 360. *looks at Uncharted 2 and Kz2.*zacroxs

crysis 2 >>>>>>>>> U2 and KZ2 and crysis 2 is best on the 360 (after the PC ) so yes 360 > PS3

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Dude are you a moron the person WHO DEVELOPED THE GAME said the PS3 was stronger than the 360

okay are you ready YOUR A PERSON WHO HASNT EVEN PLAYED CRYSIS 2 YET AND THIS GUY IS THE PERSON WHO IS DEVELOPING IT

You do the math :D

you dont even saw the videos hu? the dev already said that the 360 GPU is much better then the PS3 GPU and also the best looking game looks and works better on the 360, i have facts you have just words...