Crysis 2 and RAGE are proof that the 360 is more powerful then the PS3 (no 56K)

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#201 BoloTheGreat
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[QUOTE="imprezawrx500"]they both look much the same just the 360 has more bloom, anyway they both look like low settings in the original crysis so who cares about tiny differences?Stoner-Pimp
As someone whos played both crysis and warhead on better than high settings i really have to disagree, the PS3/360 footage looks far better than low settings. i would go as far to say it looks like a cross between medium and high.

I'd say a mix of all 3, somethings look like they are on low, some elements look almost like High, it's obviously been cut down in other ways though, i can't imagine they could make HUGE contuinuously streaming enviroments with that kind of fidelity but it's hard to do that on consoles anyway, small scale and better graphics is an ok compramise in my book, the high level shaders are there but it seems at a cost.
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#202 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="Nisim19"]

Crysis 2 and RAGE are the next console graphics kings (and IMO we will not see a better looking games this gen)

and last IGN videos show that the 360 ver looks and run much better then the PS3 ver

and also RAGErunat 60FPS on the 360 and only 30-20FPS on the PS3.

cows say that the PS3 is more powerful becusegame like U2 andKZ2, so we havehere 2 game that looks much much better then U2 and KZ2

and thay run better on the 360, thisis proof that the PS3 is notmore powerful then the 360.

It's a computer game ported down to a weeker computer....course it's gonna play and run better on the 360.

You are incredibly wrong. The x360 is a powerpc, nothing like an x86 processor.

Be that as it is.... You act as if you can't take a PC game (none "Gaming for Windows") and play it on a computer using Power PC. Or that IBMs Thnkbook doesn't run WIndows.... You probably know this but the Cell is considered a PowerPC CPU. That doesn't change the fact that the architect for the 360 is still more simular to a PC (or familer enough to not have to relearn your ABCs). Porting to the 360 that proprietary operating system designed by Microsoft (including dev kits) then it still closer to a PC than the PS3.
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#203 Epak_
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The 360 version does look better. I've seen the videos and it ran better too. Curse that cryptic PS3 architecture.

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#204 Tasman_basic
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The PS3 crysis looks better to me.
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#205 killa4lyfe
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[QUOTE="killa4lyfe"]isnt it ironic now that consoliltes have gotten Crysis 2, they start loving it while the get a strongly inferior version of the game compared to the all-mighty pc? anyways, i wont lie that this game looks greaaat, BUT the versions look equivalent right now and off screen= fail. Right now, KZ 2 is GRFX KING and that is on ps3 so meaning ps3>360 atm :PShattered007
How ironic that your sig is System Wars; where logic comes to die" and you use logic like that... :|

ahh but u do not understand what i said, i said ATM, and that is how SW works am i right? When Gears came out.....360>PS3 wasn't it?:|
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#206 JigglyWiggly_
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[QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"][QUOTE="Shattered007"] It's a computer game ported down to a weeker computer....course it's gonna play and run better on the 360.Shattered007
You are incredibly wrong. The x360 is a powerpc, nothing like an x86 processor.

Be that as it is.... You act as if you can't take a PC game (none "Gaming for Windows") and play it on a computer using Power PC. Or that IBMs Thnkbook doesn't run WIndows.... You probably know this but the Cell is considered a PowerPC CPU. That doesn't change the fact that the architect for the 360 is still more simular to a PC (or familer enough to not have to relearn your ABCs). Porting to the 360 that proprietary operating system designed by Microsoft (including dev kits) then it still closer to a PC than the PS3.

Yes it's closer but it's nothing alike. One is an OOE processor the other is an IOE. Thing I was referring to though, was when you said scaled down pc. 360 is nothing like a pc :o

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#207 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Shattered007"][QUOTE="JigglyWiggly_"] You are incredibly wrong. The x360 is a powerpc, nothing like an x86 processor.JigglyWiggly_

Be that as it is.... You act as if you can't take a PC game (none "Gaming for Windows") and play it on a computer using Power PC. Or that IBMs Thnkbook doesn't run WIndows.... You probably know this but the Cell is considered a PowerPC CPU. That doesn't change the fact that the architect for the 360 is still more simular to a PC (or familer enough to not have to relearn your ABCs). Porting to the 360 that proprietary operating system designed by Microsoft (including dev kits) then it still closer to a PC than the PS3.

Yes it's closer but it's nothing alike. One is an OOE processor the other is an IOE. Thing I was referring to though, was when you said scaled down pc. 360 is nothing like a pc :o

Processor wise not probably,but tools and coding it is.
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#208 MortalDecay
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[QUOTE="MortalDecay"][QUOTE="Brownesque"]What IGN videos show that the 360 version looks better? I've been watching the Cryengine 3 comparison videos since they came out and every one of them looked better on the PS3 side. You're going to have to link them. Not to mention the fact that Carmack said that the PS3 version would get up to nearly the same framerate. Not to mention that those games are not even remotely close to the graphics things from the looks of things.....I'd say that Uncharted 2, Killzone 2, or Gran Turismo 5 have it by a very, very large margin. Crysis 2 looks like butt on consoles, roughly equal to medium settings Crysis 1. That and multiplatform titles aren't the truest indicators of a consoles peak performance, particularly in the case of the Playstation 3, which requires a bit more optimized coding to get the greatest degree of efficiency out of the processors. Exactly how many of the PS3's 6 parallel processors are being utilized in either Crysis 2 or Rage at any given time?djsifer01
This is why I never understood cows. The proof in your face, and you'll deny it to the very end. The Cry Engine 3 tech demo destroys KZ2, Uncharted 2, and every other game you could mention. BUT, since it's multiplat, and might very well look slightly better on the 360, IT DOESN'T COUNT. I mean, can you really keep a straight face, and say that?

Here is a prime example of a Lemming in complete denial.

I'm not the one denying anything.
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#209 MortalDecay
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The PS3 version has much better detail and just overall looks better than the 360 version

whitetiger3521
Then I guess it's a matter of opinion. No one can agree, so no one is right.
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#210 MortalDecay
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Dude, this is a dead topic. The ps3 IS a more powerful system. its just harder to program for. i mean the gamimg industry has confirmed that a thousand times. saying the 360 is more powerful than the ps3 is as stupid as saying that obama wasnt born in america. Its just not true. lol.

jettpack

So, you're calling one of the engineers for both processors a liar?

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/feature/3904/processing_the_truth_an_interview_.php?page=3 (posted in another thread)

Come one...They're equal, at best. The 360 has the edge, because devs can get more out of it, without having to get a third mortgage on all of their homes. But, in the end, they're equal. It's a hard pill to swollow. PS3 users were led to believe the PS3 was this "ultra mega powerful beast" of a console, and you shelled out a lot of money, only to find out that the cheaper console is equal, and in some cases better. Again, I'd be upset, also.

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#211 godzillavskong
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The PS3 version has much better detail and just overall looks better than the 360 version

whitetiger3521
I must need better glasses, or upgrade my glasses from SD to HD, because these images look identical to me. If there is a difference, it's a minor difference. What are you seeing that makes the PS3 version look much more detailed?
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#212 DanteSuikoden
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The only thing you showed is that PS3 has better lighting.......which we already knew

Good job

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#213 wehertn
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the 360 version does look better but they both pale in comparison to pc so it really doesnt matter
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#214 jettpack
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[QUOTE="jettpack"]

[QUOTE="CTR360"] probably have some diffrent but not big deal and uncharted2 kill easy every pc game -Ichigo1987-

FACT:

RAGE=CRYSIS2>>>>>>>>>>>>Uncharted 2>killzone 2

NO

oh, yeah.

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#215 washd123
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lol people here are just as dumb as on GT

looks/visuals are not a good representation of power. looks are up to the artist. power lies with the graphics.

where if you look the 360 does some things better and the ps3 does some things better.

lets wait until the finished product until anything is considered 'proof'

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#216 dommeus
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Rage will run at 60fps on both consoles. Doolz2024
I doubt it will run at 60fps on either.
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#217 washd123
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[QUOTE="Doolz2024"]Rage will run at 60fps on both consoles. dommeus
I doubt it will run at 60fps on either.

its supposed to with Doom4 looking even better and running at 30fps. but i doubt itll be consistant since it never is. FC2 KZ2 all see framerate drops

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#218 metalpower08
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

They're the same.

They are not the same at all. Please stop spreading ignorant lies.

Besides the crappy pauses someone did with off screen shots the only difference of the top two screens is ps3 has more dynamic lightning. In the top shot the xbox shot is so dark you can't see half of the detail you can on the ps3
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#219 decoppel
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[QUOTE="metalpower08"][QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

They're the same.

They are not the same at all. Please stop spreading ignorant lies.

Besides the crappy pauses someone did with off screen shots the only difference of the top two screens is ps3 has more dynamic lightning. In the top shot the xbox shot is so dark you can't see half of the detail you can on the ps3

True. But the 360s shading looks better.... as to be expected
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#220 PAL360
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Both versions look the same to me. Still, after reading all the thread its scary the number of ppl who still believe that PS3 is more powerfull than 360!! :shock:

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#221 Filthybastrd
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Everyone who thinks the difference is significant should probably get a pc because:

1: They're extreme gfx whores

2: the pc will give you something that looks vastly better than the 99% identical versions we'll get of Rage and Crysis 2 on consoles.

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#222 TBoogy
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[QUOTE="Nisim19"][QUOTE="bigblunt537"]

I just watched the video again pausing a million times and the only difference is the lighting. The 360 version seems darker... They both also ran the same, but they ran weird because there was lag between what he was doing on the pc and what was displaying on the consoles.

bigblunt537

skip to part 2 to the outside door the textures in the 360 ver are better and also the lighting and FPS

They look identical. The only thing the 360 is doing better is the lighting... Quit being a fanboy both will look great on both consoles although i will be buying mine on pc.

If the 360 has better lighting, then they don't look indentical.

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#223 CwlHeddwyn
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for crying out loud people- the Xbox 360 & PS3 are pretty much equal in power.

I've said it all along.

Both systems can do GREAT graphics it just takes longer and more money to squeeze out Top Notch visuals from the PS3. The Xbox 360 is easier to work with.

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#224 switchblade129
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well if you look on part 1 at 2:36 you will see ps3 has better shading than the xbox 360. look at the shadows and honestly tell me which looks better.
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#225 PS3_CowBoy
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This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!
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#226 washd123
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This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!PS3_CowBoy

too bad neither console does. the graphical quality of both is equal. theres hasnt been any significant increase in that quality either since 2008

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#227 RedruM_I
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Didn't the Crytek guy said that they already maximized the 360 while they haven't achieved that for the PS3?
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#228 wehertn
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why does this matter there both gonna be better on pc...

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#229 awssk8er716
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[QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

They're the same.

Brownesque

They are not the same at all. Please stop spreading ignorant lies.

Maybe side by side they aren't, but if you play one, then turn it off, then switch to the other one. There is no way you are going to notice the difference.

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#230 GnR-SLaSh
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

They're the same.

They are not the same at all. Please stop spreading ignorant lies.

lol QFT
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#231 clyde46
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Has it really come to this? Arguing over framerates? Personally I'd rather take 30FPS and have super awesome graphics over 60FPS with medium graphics. But I have a gaming PC so I can have games running at high frames AND have great graphics!

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#232 II_Seraphim_II
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lol, this thread is funny :lol:
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#233 Hanass
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This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!PS3_CowBoy

Consoles can have graphics king titles now? :lol:

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#234 SPYDER0416
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Yeah, PS3 usually looks better in the graphics department. Nothing different here, except tha its only a slight difference really.

You can't really compare Killzone 2 and Gears of War.

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#235 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Brownesque"][QUOTE="EndorphinMaster"]

They're the same.

GnR-SLaSh

They are not the same at all. Please stop spreading ignorant lies.

lol QFT

Ahh poor lemmings, your right there not the same the PS3 version is actually superior especially in the case of Crysis where Cevat said the engine should run slightly better on the ps3.

http://www.psu.com/Crytek--CryEngine-3-will-run-slightly-better-on-PS3-News--a006807-p0.php

And that pretty much ends it.

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#236 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="PS3_CowBoy"]This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!Hanass

Consoles can have graphics king titles now? :lol:

I own all gaming platfroms( except a wii) and im not so sure what pc fans are gloating about. Im rocking Crysis on a GTX285 and yes it looks gorgeous but seriuolsy Uncharted 2 among theives looks better then any other game on my pc. Im not sure why pc gamers grasp for one game when a vast majority of the best looking games this gen are on consoles.

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#237 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="evilross"]

Every demo that I have seen has show Cry Engine 2 to look slightly better on the PS3, and John Carmack (programing and hardware god) has said several times that the PS3 is the slightly more powerful console, albeit harder to develop for, and has also stated that Blu-Ray is a large advantage when using his new texturing methods.

Brownesque

And he said that the Playstation 3's "rasterizer" is slower. He's also had a history of saying that the Xbox 360 has more memory than the Playstation 3....and personally, I think his figures were off when he said it. I'm kind of ambivalent on Carmack's comments, myself, but obviously they're grounded in some kind of reality, and that reality does not seem to amount to "teh PS3 will thrash all when we tap into da powah." I expect there to be differences with Rage, call me crazy. I'm waiting on Eurogamer to expose the details, but the game isn't releasing for a long ass time anyway, so what does it matter?

Maybe you should check out Game informer issue 196 when John Carmack says the PS3 has more raw power. It just takes more time and resources to expolit it.

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#238 blank33
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What would System Wars be like if Crysis didn't exist?

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#239 washd123
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="PS3_CowBoy"]This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!Polaris_choice

Consoles can have graphics king titles now? :lol:

I own all gaming platfroms( except a wii) and im not so sure what pc fans are gloating about. Im rocking Crysis on a GTX285 and yes it looks gorgeous but seriuolsy Uncharted 2 among theives looks better then any other game on my pc. Im not sure why pc gamers grasp for one game when a vast majority of the best looking games this gen are on consoles.

because graphics are tech and not simply how it looks. its objective and factual. visuals are looks

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#240 Hanass
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[QUOTE="Hanass"]

[QUOTE="PS3_CowBoy"]This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!Polaris_choice

Consoles can have graphics king titles now? :lol:

I own all gaming platfroms( except a wii) and im not so sure what pc fans are gloating about. Im rocking Crysis on a GTX285 and yes it looks gorgeous but seriuolsy Uncharted 2 among theives looks better then any other game on my pc. Im not sure why pc gamers grasp for one game when a vast majority of the best looking games this gen are on consoles.

Wow, that is just flat-out wrong. There is just no way that anyony who's not retarded would agree with that. Anyways, I'll just say that I'm wrong because I have a feeling that this debate is going to last a loooooong time if I object.

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#241 PAL360
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This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!PS3_CowBoy

That doesnt prove nothing also. Just proves that RIGHT NOW the best looking game is on PS3. Still hundreds of other games prove that both systems are pretty even graphics wise.

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#242 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="PS3_CowBoy"]This does not prove Anything! Which console has the graphics King title...the PLAYSTATION 3 does!Hanass

Consoles can have graphics king titles now? :lol:

Mostly fanboy cows make that claim.. Heavently Sword this.. Lair that.. MGS4 this and Uncharted that.. :roll: Funny how the PS3 can hold the title of "console graphics king" (when the PC craps on console's graphics wise), and yet they don't believe in the term console exclusive.. :|
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#243 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"][QUOTE="Brownesque"] They are not the same at all. Please stop spreading ignorant lies.Polaris_choice

lol QFT

Ahh poor lemmings, your right there not the same the PS3 version is actually superior especially in the case of Crysis where Cevat said the engine should run slightly better on the ps3.

http://www.psu.com/Crytek--CryEngine-3-will-run-slightly-better-on-PS3-News--a006807-p0.php

And that pretty much ends it.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-crysis-2-pushes-ps3-to-limits Checkmate! :)

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#244 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="GnR-SLaSh"] lol QFT vaderhater

Ahh poor lemmings, your right there not the same the PS3 version is actually superior especially in the case of Crysis where Cevat said the engine should run slightly better on the ps3.

http://www.psu.com/Crytek--CryEngine-3-will-run-slightly-better-on-PS3-News--a006807-p0.php

And that pretty much ends it.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-crysis-2-pushes-ps3-to-limits Checkmate! :)

PC Version

PC Version... You were saying?

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#245 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

Ahh poor lemmings, your right there not the same the PS3 version is actually superior especially in the case of Crysis where Cevat said the engine should run slightly better on the ps3.

http://www.psu.com/Crytek--CryEngine-3-will-run-slightly-better-on-PS3-News--a006807-p0.php

And that pretty much ends it.

OhSnapitz

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-crysis-2-pushes-ps3-to-limits Checkmate! :)

PC Version

PC Version... You were saying?

Sure hide if you like k?

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#246 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

[QUOTE="vaderhater"]http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/e3-crysis-2-pushes-ps3-to-limits Checkmate! :)

PC Version... You were saying?

Sure hide if you like k?

lol seriously? Isn't that what cows(the fanboys) do all day concerning the 360? Now you can't take your own medicine. :lol:
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#247 deactivated-5b2b34c3a42a1
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I do own a 360 (and not a PS3) and prefer it over the PS3 but I have to admit, PS3 is more powerful than the 360 in terms of graphics. Not by much though, but it is better.

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#248 sexxxyboy
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The PS3 shots look amazing. the 360 ones however look a little dark, oversaturated, and mainly blurry. not as sharp as the ps3 ones.
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#249 vaderhater
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"]

PC Version... You were saying?

OhSnapitz

Sure hide if you like k?

lol seriously? Isn't that what cows(the fanboys) do all day concerning the 360? Now you can't take your own medicine. :lol:

So why bring the PC version into this? Results may vary because on my PC it would look like and run like crap. On my buddies it could run smooth but not at max. And cows like to bring up games from the 360 that are also on the PC and I dont care because geting that game for the PC is pointless in my case and im sure for alot of others as well so.......

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#250 OhSnapitz
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[QUOTE="vaderhater"]

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="vaderhater"]Sure hide if you like k?

lol seriously? Isn't that what cows(the fanboys) do all day concerning the 360? Now you can't take your own medicine. :lol:

So why bring the PC version into this? Results may vary because on my PC it would look like and run like crap. On my buddies it could run smooth but not at max. And cows like to bring up games from the 360 that are also on the PC and I dont care because geting that game for the PC is pointless in my case and im sure for alot of others as well so.......

If you don't use your PC for gaming, then I understand.. it's just that most of the fanboys on this forum, who support the PS3, like to hide behind the PC when referring to 360 games.