Crysis 2 dev: Both consoles are equal, but PS3 is 'lowest denominator'

From this interview:

http://www.gameblog.fr/blogs/eska/p_16980_mes-amis-les-devs-daniel-phillips

AKka:What was the Lead Console at the beginning of Crysis 2 dev ?

Daniel:At the start I believe it was the Xbox 360 that was used as the console benchmark. As of now though, we've switched to the PS3 as our "low end" benchmark. Not because it's inferior to the 360, but because it's just so much harder to develop on. It has very different specs compared to the 360.

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AKka: Does the hardware difference between the 360 and the PS3 allow one of these version to look better?

Daniel:When I worked on A:CM I would have said yes to this question. During that project we found that the PS3 gave far better visuals than the 360. But having worked on Crysis 2, I have found that the quality is all dependant on the programming team. As it stands right now, the quality is near identical between the 360 and PS3 for Crysis 2 (and amazing)Gameblog

He's pretty much saying that both the 360 and PS3 are just as powerful as each other, but the PS3 is the lowest denominator in the development because it's harder to program for (and more likely to have errors in code). I don't actually think they'll be perfectly equal (although we've seen it before), but it'll be interesting to see how it turns out in the end.

The interview itself is pretty interesting, too.

It is rather sad that they have to dump down 360 version because of the PS3 old GPU and hard to master design

Castlevania is another victim of that

The good thing is that Project Kingdoms, the next big thing from Crytek is 360 exclusive, so they wont hold back on this one

It is rather sad that they have to dump down 360 version because of the PS3 old GPU and hard to master design

Castlevania is another victim of that

The good thing is that Project Kingdoms, the next big thing from Crytek is 360 exclusive, so they wont hold back on this one

AbleFa3

This won't end well.

*looks at posts above*

Uh oh.

Does anybody else remember watching a crysis 2 interview (medieval setting) and someone actually saying the words 'the 360 is the lowest common denominator'? i could of sworn they said that.

and both 360 and ps3 are lowest common denominator for pc amiright?

Does anybody else remember watching a crysis 2 interview (medieval setting) and someone actually saying the words 'the 360 is the lowest common denominator'? i could of sworn they said that.

convicted_94

Yeah, that was actually more than a year ago. Note how he said that both consoles are equal, though.

I've got a weird feeling that this post will be ignored.

Trey 4 Life dog

Does anybody else remember watching a crysis 2 interview (medieval setting) and someone actually saying the words 'the 360 is the lowest common denominator'? i could of sworn they said that.

convicted_94

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Does anybody else remember watching a crysis 2 interview (medieval setting) and someone actually saying the words 'the 360 is the lowest common denominator'? i could of sworn they said that.

NotTarts

Yeah, that was actually more than a year ago. Note how he said that both consoles are equal, though.

I've got a weird feeling that this post will be ignored.

umm, isn't both the ps3 and 360 the lowest denominator in comparison to the pc "like someone above me stated", but anyway yeah the ps3 is harder to develop for but its cool their working with it and i'm sure the ports will be up to par.

It is rather sad that they have to dump down 360 version because of the PS3 old GPU and hard to master design

Castlevania is another victim of that

The good thing is that Project Kingdoms, the next big thing from Crytek is 360 exclusive, so they wont hold back on this one

AbleFa3

LOL WHAT? Castlevania was better on the PS3 with a better framerate and no disk swaping. The PS3 is simply a more powerful peace of hardware thats painfully obvious at this point.

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It is rather sad that they have to dump down 360 version because of the PS3 old GPU and hard to master design

Castlevania is another victim of that

The good thing is that Project Kingdoms, the next big thing from Crytek is 360 exclusive, so they wont hold back on this one

TheSterls

LOL WHAT? Castlevania was better on the PS3 with a better framerate and no disk swaping. The PS3 is simply a more powerful peace of hardware thats painfully obvious at this point.

Anyone else stop giving a damn for Crysis 2? All the focus has gone to the console version and they killed the multiplayer by making it more Modern Warfare-ish. If there's no demo, then there won't be a purchase from me. I'm only interested in the single-player and we've haven't seen or heard much except for MP and which console it looks best on.

Everbody knows that the PS3 GPU sucks!

Trey 4 Life dog

tomarlyn

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Trey 4 Life dog

redhot_sauce

He was always a fakeboy.

Meh I never understood the console wars when they are so close in performance and visuals.

The PC is a huge improvement if you are trying to compare consoles.

Even if consoles are the lowest denominator the PC usually gets an upgrade in visuals and sometimes gameplay too.

Like Devil May Cry 4 on the PC has Legendary Dark Knight Mode which spawns many more enemies than normal.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Upo-mnbS838

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Trey 4 Life dog

waltefmoney

He was always a fakeboy.

Meh I never understood the console wars when they are so close in performance and visuals.

Hakkai007

The console wars are not limited to graphics.

What discussion value is there to be had here? Nothing said isn't something we haven't heard hundreds of times since PS3's launch.

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[QUOTE="redhot_sauce"] the guy in the pic......he prefers the 360

redhot_sauce

He was always a fakeboy.

Now you see how far fanboys will go to try to ridicule another system because of silly console loyalty.

If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?thetruespin

I assume that question is directed to Crytek, here is a link to their contact page.

What discussion value is there to be had here? Nothing said isn't something we haven't heard hundreds of times since PS3's launch.

Mystic-G

No where in the Q&A did he use the words lowest denominator.

Kind of a misleading title when you just make something up like that

It is rather sad that they have to dump down 360 version because of the PS3 old GPU and hard to master design

Castlevania is another victim of that

The good thing is that Project Kingdoms, the next big thing from Crytek is 360 exclusive, so they wont hold back on this one

AbleFa3

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?waltefmoney

I assume that question is directed to Crytek, here is a link to their contact page.

GT5 is taking six years to make. :lol: If a 360 game took that long believe me it would look great too. Oh and Gears3, Alan Wake all look as good as anything on the PS3. Sure you might say UC2 or KZ2 might look a little better but it's not much if they do.

If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?thetruespin

For some reason i know this since the beginning of this gen...

This is obvously another PR statement from Crytek, hyping that both products "will be" equally as good.

Nothing to see here move along.

This is obvously another PR statement from Crytek, hyping that both products "will be" equally as good.

Nothing to see here move along.

lucky_star

Indeed, it is not so strange that a multipltform will be better on 360, that is common by now

If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?thetruespin

It´s all about first party devs dedication.

Also those games look amazing indeed but there are already games on 360 that easly compete with them like Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption or the new Castlevania for example.

He`s babbling nonsese,again.They said exactly the opposite,which makes sense,for everyone with a basic grasp on the subject:

http://www.pcworld.com/article/194313/crytek_crysis_2_performs_better_on_ps3_than_xbox_360.html,and it will look more vibrant,and richer.PC will definitely look the best.

If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?thetruespin

If they are equal why 360 has open world games with stunning visuals like Alan Wake and PS3 has only games with paths and static lighting like Uncharted 2 ?

Also GT5 has 2D trees, the way of PS1

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?PAL360

It´s all about first party devs dedication.

Also those games look amazing indeed but there are already games on 360 that easly compete with them like Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption or the new Castlevania for example.

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?AbleFa3

If they are equal why 360 has open world games with stunning visuals like Alan Wake and PS3 has only games with paths and static lighting like Uncharted 2 ?

Also GT5 has 2D trees, the way of PS1

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?DragonfireXZ95

If they are equal why 360 has open world games with stunning visuals like Alan Wake and PS3 has only games with paths and static lighting like Uncharted 2 ?

Also GT5 has 2D trees, the way of PS1

It is a million times more open world than Uncharted 2

Also has real 3D forests while U2 has walls and rooms with some trees stuck around on them, one is a world, the other is a path

Gears 3 looks vastly more impressive than KZ3 as well to me

From what I've seen, the quality of the game is usually determined by how experienced the studio is. This is why the Killzone series looks so good; even on the PS2, which was weaker than the Xbox, Killzone looked and felt on par with most Xbox games, and even beat a few.

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If they are equal why 360 has open world games with stunning visuals like Alan Wake and PS3 has only games with paths and static lighting like Uncharted 2 ?

Also GT5 has 2D trees, the way of PS1

AbleFa3

It is a million times more open world than Uncharted 2

Also has real 3D forests while U2 has walls and rooms with some trees stuck around on them, one is a world, the other is a path

Gears 3 looks vastly more impressive than KZ3 as well to me

So what im understanding(after actually reading the article) is that both will be on par, both consoles are equal, and the ps3 is harder to develop for... Sounds like the same thing we've been hearing for a long time now.

Nice baiting title. So what im understanding(after actually reading the article) is that both will be on par, both consoles are equal, and the ps3 is harder to develop for... Sounds like the same thing we've been hearing for a long time now. This is news worthy because? Oh right, flame bait to make the ps3 look worse than it is.

Chubith

Where is this 'flaming'? You're actually the only person who's said anything that could be considered mildly insulting, you know. From what I can see, the rest of the posts are pretty mature.

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[QUOTE="thetruespin"]If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?DragonfireXZ95

It´s all about first party devs dedication.

Also those games look amazing indeed but there are already games on 360 that easly compete with them like Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption or the new Castlevania for example.

Halo Reach doesnt look as good as Uncharted2 but it easly does as much considering the scale, amount of enemies, spliscreen, lightning, textures, etc. Castlevania looks very close to GoW3. Red Dead Redemption is a technical marvel considering....everything! It´s the most impressive console game i have seen so far.

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It´s all about first party devs dedication.

Also those games look amazing indeed but there are already games on 360 that easly compete with them like Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption or the new Castlevania for example.

PAL360

Halo Reach doesnt look as good as Uncharted2 but it easly does as much considering the scale, amount of enemies, spliscreen, lightning, textures, etc. Castlevania looks very close to GoW3. Red Dead Redemption is a technical marvel considering....everything! It´s the most impressive console game i have seen so far.

Halo Reach does look amazing (esp. the textures), but the only problem is that it's not very consistent compared to U2 and KZ2. Pretty much the same reason why GOW3 isn't given much credit.