Crysis 2 dev: Both consoles are equal, but PS3 is 'lowest denominator'

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#51 AbleFa3
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

It is a million times more open world than Uncharted 2

Also has real 3D forests while U2 has walls and rooms with some trees stuck around on them, one is a world, the other is a path

Gears 3 looks vastly more impressive than KZ3 as well to me

DragonfireXZ95

A million times? Neither of them are open world, so how can one be more open world than the other one? Alan Wake is less linear yes, but it's not open world.

Call it whatever you like, fact is the levels in Alan Wake have infinitly bigger walking space than U2 that is usually milited to a path or room

Video for proof

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBN04saU4I&feature=related

Halo Reach does look amazing (esp. the textures), but the only problem is that it's not very consistent compared to U2 and KZ2. Pretty much the same reason why GOW3 isn't given much credit.

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Lack of hype is the reason, not inconsistency

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[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="thetruespin"]If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?DragonfireXZ95

It´s all about first party devs dedication.

Also those games look amazing indeed but there are already games on 360 that easly compete with them like Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption or the new Castlevania for example.

Halo Reach isn't anywhere near Uncharted 2. Red Dead Redemption might be though... Haven't played Castlevania.

Reach looks fantastic....And when you consider the scale, AI it even makes it more incredible.
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#53 dah_master
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The guy in the interview is confusing me...

He says that PS3 is the low-end denominator then he says the PS3 gives better visuals?...whut?

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#54 waltefmoney
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[QUOTE="AbleFa3"]

It is rather sad that they have to dump down 360 version because of the PS3 old GPU and hard to master design

Castlevania is another victim of that

The good thing is that Project Kingdoms, the next big thing from Crytek is 360 exclusive, so they wont hold back on this one

DragonfireXZ95

If Project Kingdoms is a 360 exclusive, yes they will. The hardware sucks for the 360 too compared to gaming PC hardware.

I thought the community manager at Crytek already confirmed that Codename Kingdoms is indeed exclusive to the Xbox 360?

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#55 iMojo786_PSN
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And once Crytek release their 360 exclusive which doesnt even look on par with Uncharted2 they will say "it is not about teh graphics, but the gameplay" or "we had limited time" :lol:

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#56 waltefmoney
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And once Crytek release their 360 exclusive which doesnt even look on par with Uncharted2 they will say "it is not about teh graphics, but the gameplay" or "we had limited time" :lol:

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So you've seen the game? Links?

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#57 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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And once Crytek release their 360 exclusive which doesnt even look on par with Uncharted2 they will say "it is not about teh graphics, but the gameplay" or "we had limited time" :lol:

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#58 Tessellation
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Does anybody else remember watching a crysis 2 interview (medieval setting) and someone actually saying the words 'the 360 is the lowest common denominator'? i could of sworn they said that.

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No, they said that about the ps3.
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#59 Tessellation
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The PS3 is simply a more powerful peace of hardware thats painfully obvious at this point.TheSterls
that isn't what crytek said or thinks,plus u are not a developer
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#60 Tessellation
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And once Crytek release their 360 exclusive which doesnt even look on par with Uncharted2 they will say "it is not about teh graphics, but the gameplay" or "we had limited time" :lol:

iMojo786_PSN
And who cares about UC2 when Crysis 2 murders it in the graphics department.
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#61 Miroku32
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So what im understanding(after actually reading the article) is that both will be on par, both consoles are equal, and the ps3 is harder to develop for... Sounds like the same thing we've been hearing for a long time now.

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I agree with you. I wonder which developer haven't said that.
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lol nvrmind

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#63 Caseytappy
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Reach looks fantastic....And when you consider the scale, AI it even makes it more incredible. walkingdream

That's what i love about Reach , the insane amount of things happening on the screen at once , fights in the far background , huge space ships fighting in the air , explosions everywhere .

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"During that project we found that the PS3 gave far better visuals than the 360."

but then again these are the same guys that said crysis is not possible on a console

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#65 gpuking
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Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3.
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Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. gpuking

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

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#67 PAL360
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Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. gpuking

RDR not only touches, it also surpass them.

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[QUOTE="redhot_sauce"]

[QUOTE="tomarlyn"]

Trey 4 Life dog

the guy in the pic......he prefers the 360

Interesting, so do I.
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#69 G-O-M-J
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If 360 and ps3 are equal, explain Killzone 2, Uncharted 2, God of War 3, GT5? How come the 360 isn't turning out the same quality graphics?thetruespin
Errr cool opinion bro ;) lets look at the facts shall we?.. its actually the 360 putting out games with higher quality graphics, as proven by comparing multiplats side by side. All the factual evidence we have suggests the 360 is actually superior to the ps3.. but obviously, logic goes out the window here so.. carry on :P
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#70 FIipMode
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Yeah we knew this for the longest while, the consoles are close to equal power and PS3 is less developer friendly.
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. waltefmoney

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

That was actually the PC version from the single player and KZ3 MP Beta still wins out in a number of areas. KZ3 campaign will be better by a fair margin if scaling up from the MP.
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"]Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. gpuking

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

That was actually the PC version from the single player and KZ3 MP Beta still wins out in a number of areas. KZ3 campaign will be better by a fair margin if scaling up from the MP.

I got the links mixed up, I edited shortly after. And yes, I consider the Crysis 2 MP Beta on Xbox 360 to look better than the Killzone 3 MP Beta on PS3.

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[QUOTE="gpuking"]Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. waltefmoney

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

Oh yeah, it has razor-sharp screen tearing :lol: anyway 360 Crysis 2 looks sad both on pics and in motion.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"]Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. Orchid87

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

Oh yeah, it has razor-sharp screen tearing :lol: anyway 360 Crysis 2 looks sad both on pics and in motion.

So you've played PS3 Crysis 2?

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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

waltefmoney

Oh yeah, it has razor-sharp screen tearing :lol: anyway 360 Crysis 2 looks sad both on pics and in motion.

So you've played PS3 Crysis 2?

>Implying I do care for PS3 Crysis 2.

We are comparing 360 Crysis 2 to Killzone 3, aren't we?

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[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

waltefmoney

That was actually the PC version from the single player and KZ3 MP Beta still wins out in a number of areas. KZ3 campaign will be better by a fair margin if scaling up from the MP.

I got the links mixed up, I edited shortly after. And yes, I consider the Crysis 2 MP Beta on Xbox 360 to look better than the Killzone 3 MP Beta on PS3.

If you consider massive screen tearing, sever pop ins, a plathera of blurry textures, 0xaa and laughable post processing LOD better than killzone 3 beta than you sure needs to have your eyes checked.
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#77 waltefmoney
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>Implying I do care for PS3 Crysis 2.

We are comparing 360 Crysis 2 to Killzone 3, aren't we?

Orchid87

Sure, why not. Go ahead.

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#78 Tessellation
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Crysis 2 MP beta looks better than KZ3 MP beta.
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If you consider massive screen tearing, sever pop ins, a plathera of blurry textures, 0xaa and laughable post processing LOD better than killzone 3 beta than you sure needs to have your eyes checked.gpuking

Basically this. Also MW2-inspired art and gameplay.

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#80 UnrealDelusion
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. waltefmoney

This definitely looks better than Killzone 3.

I hope your joking right? That was ugly beyond belief.

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#81 waltefmoney
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If you consider massive screen tearing, sever pop ins, a plathera of blurry textures, 0xaa and laughable post processing LOD better than killzone 3 beta than you sure needs to have your eyes checked.gpuking

Have a look at your own thread and notice the irony. Also notice the low res textures.

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[QUOTE="gpuking"]If you consider massive screen tearing, sever pop ins, a plathera of blurry textures, 0xaa and laughable post processing LOD better than killzone 3 beta than you sure needs to have your eyes checked.waltefmoney

Have a look at your own thread and notice the irony. Also notice the low res textures.

So? Comparing to the high end PC games they maybe not as sharp but still vastly better than what's in Crysis 2 360 version.
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#83 Bus-A-Bus
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Crysis 2 will definitely become graphics king on consoles and will look better than KZ3,thats just the way it goes,its Crytek.

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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"]If you consider massive screen tearing, sever pop ins, a plathera of blurry textures, 0xaa and laughable post processing LOD better than killzone 3 beta than you sure needs to have your eyes checked.gpuking

Have a look at your own thread and notice the irony. Also notice the low res textures.

So? Comparing to the high end PC games they maybe not as sharp but still vastly better than what's in Crysis 2 360 version.

The textures are much better and it has much less blur, especially on the gun models.

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Crysis 2 will definitely become graphics king on consoles and will look better than KZ3,thats just the way it goes,its Crytek.

Bus-A-Bus

I highly doubt it. Judging by the released 360 Crysis 2 media it yet has to top KZ2 and it's 3 months from release.

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#86 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="gpuking"] That was actually the PC version from the single player and KZ3 MP Beta still wins out in a number of areas. KZ3 campaign will be better by a fair margin if scaling up from the MP.gpuking

I got the links mixed up, I edited shortly after. And yes, I consider the Crysis 2 MP Beta on Xbox 360 to look better than the Killzone 3 MP Beta on PS3.

If you consider massive screen tearing, sever pop ins, a plathera of blurry textures, 0xaa and laughable post processing LOD better than killzone 3 beta than you sure needs to have your eyes checked.

are you watching the killzone 3 video for that matter?
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[QUOTE="gpuking"][QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

Have a look at your own thread and notice the irony. Also notice the low res textures.

waltefmoney

So? Comparing to the high end PC games they maybe not as sharp but still vastly better than what's in Crysis 2 360 version.

The textures are much better and it has much less blur, especially on the gun models.

Crysis 2 on the 360 won't even come close to KZ3 judging by your beta footage. Hell games from a decade ago on the PC look better then that ugly mess.

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#88 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Crysis 2 will definitely become graphics king on consoles and will look better than KZ3,thats just the way it goes,its Crytek.

Orchid87

I highly doubt it. Judging by the released 360 Crysis 2 media it yet has to top KZ2 and it's 3 months from release.

but that's your opinion,majority opinion agree Crysis 2 looks better than killzone 2 and 3.
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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Crysis 2 will definitely become graphics king on consoles and will look better than KZ3,thats just the way it goes,its Crytek.

Tessellation

I highly doubt it. Judging by the released 360 Crysis 2 media it yet has to top KZ2 and it's 3 months from release.

but that's your opinion,majority opinion agree Crysis 2 looks better than killzone 2 and 3.

That would be the lemmins lying to themselves since they have yet to get a game which is graphically impressive.

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[QUOTE="Orchid87"]

[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Crysis 2 will definitely become graphics king on consoles and will look better than KZ3,thats just the way it goes,its Crytek.

Tessellation

I highly doubt it. Judging by the released 360 Crysis 2 media it yet has to top KZ2 and it's 3 months from release.

but that's your opinion,majority opinion agree Crysis 2 looks better than killzone 2 and 3.

If we're talking about the 360 version then I'm afraid you're wrong.

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#91 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

Crysis 2 will definitely become graphics king on consoles and will look better than KZ3,thats just the way it goes,its Crytek.

Orchid87

I highly doubt it. Judging by the released 360 Crysis 2 media it yet has to top KZ2 and it's 3 months from release.

Right now there are 400 people working on Crysis 2 and the most of them are,from Crytek Frankfurt are working on SP while Crytek UK is dedicated for MP.Latest(month old) footage of SP looked like it had big potential.They added per object motion blur and now they are adding their own AA on consoles,all in the ending phase of developing.Right now,Crysis 2 looks very ROUGH,with frame drops,texture pop ins,screen tearing and what not,but its lighting,physics and everything else looks like it has serious potential,just needs alot of polish that KZ3 already has.

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Anyone else stop giving a damn for Crysis 2? All the focus has gone to the console version and they killed the multiplayer by making it more Modern Warfare-ish. If there's no demo, then there won't be a purchase from me. I'm only interested in the single-player and we've haven't seen or heard much except for MP and which console it looks best on.

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:| Killed the multiplayer? Something tells me you have never played the mediocre Crysis 1 multiplayer..

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#93 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Orchid87"]

I highly doubt it. Judging by the released 360 Crysis 2 media it yet has to top KZ2 and it's 3 months from release.

UnrealDelusion

but that's your opinion,majority opinion agree Crysis 2 looks better than killzone 2 and 3.

That would be the lemmins lying to themselves since they have yet to get a game which is graphically impressive.

yes you keep telling yourself that,i didn't know the community of gamespot are all xbox fanboys :roll:
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Crysis 2 PC beta gameplay

vs.

Killzone 3 beta gameplay

Crysis 2 looks cartoonish just by looking at its character animation. The environment looks empty - there's no atmosphere effects and the levels look rather plain. Don't even get me started on its sound FXs...

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#95 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="Orchid87"]

I highly doubt it. Judging by the released 360 Crysis 2 media it yet has to top KZ2 and it's 3 months from release.

Orchid87

but that's your opinion,majority opinion agree Crysis 2 looks better than killzone 2 and 3.

If we're talking about the 360 version then I'm afraid you're wrong.

re wrong.

wrong.


just like your previous post

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#96 johny300
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[QUOTE="gpuking"]Anyone who watched the 360 ver. Crysis 2 beta footage would know it's a total mess and killzone 3 slaughters it graphically. Crysis 2 on 360 at least needs much much work if it intends to compete with the big boys. But yeah, atm nothing on 360 touches the likes of kz2, uc2 and gow3. PAL360

RDR not only touches, it also surpass them.

No RDR doesn't surpass them, and please stop with technical marvel lol.
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#97 UnrealDelusion
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"] but that's your opinion,majority opinion agree Crysis 2 looks better than killzone 2 and 3.Tessellation

That would be the lemmins lying to themselves since they have yet to get a game which is graphically impressive.

yes you keep telling yourself that,i didn't know the community of gamespot are all xbox fanboys :roll:

I don't need to myself that since I own a pc and not a poor man's PC also known as XBOX360. So in other words I will be playing Crysis 2 the way it's meant to be played.

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Right now there are 400 people working on Crysis 2 and the most of them are,from Crytek Frankfurt are working on SP while Crytek UK is dedicated for MP.Latest(month old) footage of SP looked like it had big potential.They added per object motion blur and now they are adding their own AA on consoles,all in the ending phase of developing.Right now,Crysis 2 looks very ROUGH,with frame drops,texture pop ins,screen tearing and what not,but its lighting,physics and everything else looks like it has serious potential,just needs alot of polish that KZ3 already has.

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KZ3 may also get some more polish :roll: But still there's little time left for a drastical improvement.

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#99 Bus-A-Bus
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Right now there are 400 people working on Crysis 2 and the most of them are,from Crytek Frankfurt are working on SP while Crytek UK is dedicated for MP.Latest(month old) footage of SP looked like it had big potential.They added per object motion blur and now they are adding their own AA on consoles,all in the ending phase of developing.Right now,Crysis 2 looks very ROUGH,with frame drops,texture pop ins,screen tearing and what not,but its lighting,physics and everything else looks like it has serious potential,just needs alot of polish that KZ3 already has.

Orchid87

KZ3 may also get some more polish :roll: But still there's little time left for a drastical improvement.

Believe me there will...new story trailer should come soon.Anyway,you just have to look at Aprils GDC footage of Crysis 2 and than compare it any new one you will see major difference,almost different game.

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#100 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="UnrealDelusion"]

That would be the lemmins lying to themselves since they have yet to get a game which is graphically impressive.

UnrealDelusion

yes you keep telling yourself that,i didn't know the community of gamespot are all xbox fanboys :roll:

I don't need to myself that since I own a pc and not a poor man's PC also known as XBOX360. So in other words I will be playing Crysis 2 the way it's meant to be played.

you talk about poor man's PC..yet defending the ps3 lmao.