Crysis 2 writer: Our Alpha build looks better than Killzone 2

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#51 AAllxxjjnn
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This guy really likes to talk,he is irritating.But in this case i dont see whats the fuss?HHG asked him how does it compare with KZ2 and its only natural what he said...

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It's only irritating if you're taking offense to his criticisms. Otherwise, it's just interesting to hear what he has to say about game narrative and what's wrong with it. I don't see the problem with him using examples like Halo, Modern Warfare, and Gears to help illustrate his point.
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#52 Bus-A-Bus
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

This guy really likes to talk,he is irritating.But in this case i dont see whats the fuss?HHG asked him how does it compare with KZ2 and its only natural what he said...

AAllxxjjnn

It's only irritating if you're taking offense to his criticisms. Otherwise, it's just interesting to hear what he has to say about game narrative and what's wrong with it. I don't see the problem with him using examples like Halo, Modern Warfare, and Gears to help illustrate his point.

Well im not takin offense,i also think that Halo and MW story is really shallow,never got interested in neither,but you know some people find it a bit irritating when he says these kind of stuff on daily basis :)

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#53 xxgunslingerxx
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[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Why would it be a "slam" to say that? Maybe it does look better.

Tessellation

PS3 fanboys don't want a multiplatform to look better than their marginal better looking exclusive's.

just the fact that you thnk the graphics are only marginally better shows that you have never laid your hands on uncharted2 or killzone 2

these games leave the best looking 360 exclusives in the dust

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#54 delta3074
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hmmmhmmhmmm, killzone 2 looks amazing. I can't afford a pc to upgrade crysis all the way, so it doesn't look better thank KZ2 for me.

But, I've seen it on full settings and it does blow u away

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i think they should show us some screens so we can judge for ourselves, if they think there 'alpha' build looks better than KZ2 then they should prove it,seeing is believing,lol
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#55 delta3074
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

Why would it be a "slam" to say that? Maybe it does look better.

xxgunslingerxx

PS3 fanboys don't want a multiplatform to look better than their marginal better looking exclusive's.

just the fact that you thnk the graphics are only marginally better shows that you have never laid your hands on uncharted2 or killzone 2

these games leave the best looking 360 exclusives in the dust

rubbish, Ps3 exclusives may have a graphical edge on 360 exclusives, but UC2 in no way leaves gears 2 'in the dust' ,ps3 exclusives are in no way vastly superior to 360 exclusives in the graphics department, just the fact that you think UC2 looks vastly better than gears 2 shows you have obviously not played gears 2,lol
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#56 JLF1
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What's with this guy?

He's like Cliff Bleszinski earlier this gen but without the tact.

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#57 iammason
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He's just buildng hype. I mean the only reason he trash talked Halo is because he has to compete with it later this year.
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#58 Asim90
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These Crysis developers and their bold claims are getting somewhat annoying now.

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#59 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

This guy really likes to talk,he is irritating.But in this case i dont see whats the fuss?HHG asked him how does it compare with KZ2 and its only natural what he said...

AAllxxjjnn

It's only irritating if you're taking offense to his criticisms. Otherwise, it's just interesting to hear what he has to say about game narrative and what's wrong with it. I don't see the problem with him using examples like Halo, Modern Warfare, and Gears to help illustrate his point.

Nope, it's pretty irritating when he hasn't even done much, in fact, done nothing in video games. I've read his novel Black Man, and while it did win the Arthur C Clarke award, I'm wondering whether the competition that year was anything to scoff at. Not that the novel was bad, but it wasn't really memorable.

Not only that, if that novel is anything to go by, he's going to have to prove himself worthy to actually write an action novel. Black Man relished in its literal nature, many of its events being at home in words, but would need a lot of treatment to get it on film/tv. Forget about putting it in video game form, unless you want some sort of adventure game again.

Last I checked, no one but me played point-and-click adventures.

And it irks me that he didn't realize the world of Halo is pretty much homage central.

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#60 delta3074
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These Crysis developers and their bold claims are getting somewhat annoying now.

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specially with no proof like screenshots to back up there claims
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#61 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"]No hard to believe considering Crytek tech is bastly superior and they are multiplatform devs.Teufelhuhn
I really think you need to provide at least sort of qualification when throwing around terms like "vastly superior".

I won't post a wall of text from a pdf file, for example Crytek deferred lighting can go up to 500 lighst per scene killzone 2 one is 300.
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#62 Tessellation
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[QUOTE="Tessellation"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]Why would it be a "slam" to say that? Maybe it does look better./QUOTE] PS3 fanboys don't want a multiplatform to look better than their marginal better looking exclusive's.xxgunslingerxx
just the fact that you thnk the graphics are only marginally better shows that you have never laid your hands on uncharted2 or killzone 2 these games leave the best looking 360 exclusives in the dust

The fact i have both consoles at home and played many of their exclusives i can only come with the conclusion they are marginal better,and the only thing that blows xbox 360 exclusive's are my PC games.
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#63 JLF1
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Tessellation"]No hard to believe considering Crytek tech is bastly superior and they are multiplatform devs.Tessellation
I really think you need to provide at least sort of qualification when throwing around terms like "vastly superior".

I won't post a wall of text from a pdf file, for example Crytek deferred lighting can go up to 500 lighst per scene killzone 2 one is 300.

That's only on paper though.

I'm not discrediting it but until we can actually see the game running Crytek can throw around as many facts on paper they want but it won't prove anything.

I don't care how many numbers a game is crunshing, I only care about what I can actually see.

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#64 KingsMessenger
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[QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

The Crysis team sure has been quick to brag and bash others lately....

II_Seraphim_II

I know right? What's going on? Crytek used to be so modest way back when. It's like the writer is their new spokesperson or something :P

new spokesperson?

He is a very successful novelist who was just announced as the game's writer, and he is getting interviewed a lot lately as a result. He just says what he is thinking.

Seriously, what is the issue with him speaking his mind? Are we honestly to the point where you can't even say your god damn opinion without having to worry about if it is "politically correct" or not, specifically in regards to GAMING of all things?

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#65 JLF1
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[QUOTE="II_Seraphim_II"][QUOTE="TheMightyHoov"]

The Crysis team sure has been quick to brag and bash others lately....

KingsMessenger

I know right? What's going on? Crytek used to be so modest way back when. It's like the writer is their new spokesperson or something :P

new spokesperson?

He is a very successful novelist who was just announced as the game's writer, and he is getting interviewed a lot lately as a result. He just says what he is thinking.

Seriously, what is the issue with him speaking his mind? Are we honestly to the point where you can't even say your god damn opinion without having to worry about if it is "politically correct" or not, specifically in regards to GAMING of all things?

It's potentially bad PR for Crytek.

Yes, when you are a face-figure of a huge company you will have to learn to shut your mouth at the right times otherwise people will react the way they do now. Look at how people are treating Peter Molyneux's words when he speak. Nobody trusts him anymore.

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#66 deactivated-635601fd996cc
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Make up your minds. This guy might of seen some uber secret stuff from Crytek.

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#67 skrat_01
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Its unbelievable how sensitive people are to other peoples statements, obviously talking up the game.

Like so

What the hell is up with this Crysis 2 writer guy? So far he has talked smack about Modern Warfare 2, Halo 3, and now Killzone 2. I think he needs to shut his mouth before he destroys Cryteks reputation.

Master_ShakeXXX

:lol:

Yeah!

You tell him right!

Attaboy!

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Just wait and see jeesh, of course he is going to give praise to the game he is working on.

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#68 lespaul1919
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they need to stop talking and start showing some gameplay. let the game speak for itself you arrogant pieces of work.

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#69 o0squishy0o
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At this rate I hope they release the game at the same time as modern warfare 3 or gears of war 3 and they get put in their place very quickly. I mean saying stuff like this is really shooting yourself in the ass if the game flops on any part. Specially when it comes to graphics I mean if anything it should look atleast AS good as the first crysis did on PC for the consoles and the PC version to look INSAINE and be an awesome game.

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#70 -Feath-
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While Crytek are really talented at making gorgeous looking games, one begins to wonder how their multiplat (with the main version on PC, nonetheless) can look better than an exclusive game which took hundreds of millions of dollars to produce and over five years of development on the specific architecture. I'd love to be proven wrong though.
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#71 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Im sure it looks alot better then Killzone2

Master_ShakeXXX

it sure doesnt so far. *screens*

Assuming those arn't bullshots, yeah, I would say the guy is out of his mind. Crytek needs to shut him up NEOW.

Those are from the tech demo that came out atCES, thats not new footage.

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#72 o0squishy0o
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="killzowned24"] it sure doesnt so far. *screens*NVIDIATI

Assuming those arn't bullshots, yeah, I would say the guy is out of his mind. Crytek needs to shut him up NEOW.

Those are from the tech demo that came out atCES, thats not new footage.

Well that isnt console footage because the pics are bigger than my screen res 1900x1200 and there are next to no jaggies lol.
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#73 Diametraphine
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Can someone slap this guy? He's annoying!

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#74 tupapi006
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wow looks better than a 1 year old game :?

Killzone 2 doesnt look that good anymore

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#75 Santesyu
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I doubt this claim for some reason...

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#76 hoola
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I love it when developers are arrogant. It makes me like them more because they believe in their product.

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#77 DarkLink77
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Dude just doesn't shut up, does he?

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#78 Hamitay
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

Im sure it looks alot better then Killzone2

killzowned24

it sure doesnt so far.

My eyes!, it hurt!

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#79 racing1750
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That's a bold claim. And what is with this writer bashing other big games?
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#80 racing1750
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wow looks better than a 1 year old game :?

Killzone 2 doesnt look that good anymore

tupapi006

lol what? Killzone 2 looks amazing, even a year later, hell even Gears of war 1 still looks great, and thats from 2006.

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#81 theSADmafioso
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I expected Crysis 2 to look amazing on my PC but to be frank I don't expect miracles on the consoles like many here seem to.

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[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"][QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Assuming those arn't bullshots, yeah, I would say the guy is out of his mind. Crytek needs to shut him up NEOW.

Those are from the tech demo that came out atCES, thats not new footage.

Well that isnt console footage because the pics are bigger than my screen res 1900x1200 and there are next to no jaggies lol.

You're talking about different screens, look at the onces Killzowned24 posted, 1280x720.
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#83 Chutebox  Online
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If what we saw was alpha, I'd have to disagree.

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#84 RiddleMeThat
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Gaming needs someone like this. Otherwise we'll keep seeing the drab **** we've been witnessing for the last 4 years. Developers, generic stories ain't going to cut it anymore. Stop playing it safe, pull your fingers out your ***, and blow me away with a complete mind**** of a story. All we need is a spokesmen to declare how **** todays "Pop music" is. :roll: And can people stop judging Crysis 2 on that flash video GDC tech demo screengrab please? Jesus christ. :roll: :roll:

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#85 Shewgenja
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I just think it's funny that he's comparing the game to a PS3 exclusive rather than a 360 game for graphics. Obviously, they wanted to actually raise the bar.

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#86 gensigns
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="Bus-A-Bus"]

This guy really likes to talk,he is irritating.But in this case i dont see whats the fuss?HHG asked him how does it compare with KZ2 and its only natural what he said...

FrozenLiquid

It's only irritating if you're taking offense to his criticisms. Otherwise, it's just interesting to hear what he has to say about game narrative and what's wrong with it. I don't see the problem with him using examples like Halo, Modern Warfare, and Gears to help illustrate his point.

Nope, it's pretty irritating when he hasn't even done much, in fact, done nothing in video games. I've read his novel Black Man, and while it did win the Arthur C Clarke award, I'm wondering whether the competition that year was anything to scoff at. Not that the novel was bad, but it wasn't really memorable.

Not only that, if that novel is anything to go by, he's going to have to prove himself worthy to actually write an action novel. Black Man relished in its literal nature, many of its events being at home in words, but would need a lot of treatment to get it on film/tv. Forget about putting it in video game form, unless you want some sort of adventure game again.

Last I checked, no one but me played point-and-click adventures.

And it irks me that he didn't realize the world of Halo is pretty much homage central.

Black Man wasn't one of his best - try Altered Carbon, it's probably the best SF novel I've read in the last ten years.

And LOL! Wasn't Morgan the Cow Hero just the other day when he was bashing Halo?

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#87 Shewgenja
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He's still a Cow hero.. He chose a PS3 game to compare graphics too, which obviously shows the mark of quality.

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#88 mo0ksi
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I really hope this guy can walk the walk.
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#89 mitu123
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He bashes Killzone 2's graphics and praises Uncharted 2's story...

He doesn't exactly hate the PS3, neither love it, sounds likes me.:P

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#90 lespaul1919
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he's just getting people excited about his game. I wouldn't look into any of it too far lol.

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#91 xOMGITSJASONx
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Crytek is FAIL if they can't make a better looking game than a 2009 ps3 fps exclusive. :P

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#92 applefan1991  Moderator
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I really hope they can deliver like they claim, because you know Naughty Dog will with Uncharted 3
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#93 mgkennedy5
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This writer seems to insult a lot of things... and judging from those last screens we got, it looks no where near Killzone...
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#94 AktionJakson
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lol @ people doubting crytek

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#95 musicalmac  Moderator
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That guy talks a big game. Clearly he is qualified to make such a claim.
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#96 xOMGITSJASONx
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lol @ people doubting crytek

AktionJakson

Have you played Crysis? I beat both games on high and i doubt Crysis 2 will look much better than U2 on the ps3.

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#97 NVIDIATI
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[QUOTE="AktionJakson"]

lol @ people doubting crytek

xOMGITSJASONx

Have you played Crysis? I beat both games on high and i doubt Crysis 2 will look much better than U2 on the ps3.

So what are you trying to infer when comparing Crysis / Crysis Warhead to Uncharted 2?

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#98 Miroku32
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First bashing Halo storyline and now saying this; I don't deny that Crytek can make beautiful games (but with an uninteresting story) but they shouldn't go to the same ways as Sony, starting bashing other developers.
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#99 NVIDIATI
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First bashing Halo storyline and now saying this; I don't deny that Crytek can make beautiful games (but with an uninteresting story) but they shouldn't go to the same ways as Sony, starting bashing other developers. Miroku32
When you're the best you can do what ever you want :P Though most of these comments have all come form the same person so what can I say, he likes to talk ****.
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#100 dakan45
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Where is that gdc screenshot from pc gamer that shows ungly low detailed grpahics on crysis 2...... http://www.pcgames.de/Crysis-2-PC-213107/Bilder/Crysis-2-Bildervergleich-mit-Crysis-als-Wallpaper-Update-InGame-Screenshots-706499/galerie/1275358/ (for some reason it does not let me link it :( ) "Thats not gonna be the final product and it wont look that on pc" Yeah but they talked about "console" and "alpha version" If thats thre "alpha" which by the way looks like the only thing it could be is an alpha version or a beta....it definetly looks worse than killzone 2.