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#1 jbz7890
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From the Gamespot review of MGS4: " Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made."

is more technically impressive than

way to completely lie Gamespot.

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#2 sadikovic
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Yeah...
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#3 Pinkyimp
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From the Gamespot review of MGS4: " Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots is the most technically stunning video game ever made."

is more technically impressive than

way to completely lie Gamespot.

jbz7890

his suit looks good but everything else looks Garbage...

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#4 angelkimne
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:( They just forgot to add 'console'
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#5 ice144
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I wonder if people take the time to think things through before they post.
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#6 -Jiggles-
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Gamespot was riding the hype train, obviously.
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#7 Flamestos
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I expected no less from this lemming...
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#8 loco145
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MGS 4 looks amazing.
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#9 -Jiggles-
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MGS 4 looks amazing.loco145

Yes, it does.

Not more amazing than Crysis, though.

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#10 MoldOnHold
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:( They just forgot to add 'console'angelkimne
Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?
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#11 jbz7890
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:( They just forgot to add 'console'angelkimne

Gears of War, Uncharted, and Mass Effect are much more technically impressive than MGS4.

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#12 ff7isnumbaone
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MG4>crysis. graphics obviously dont make the game. Kojima works hard. Give him a break and stop hating. Go buy mgs 1 to 4. Take your fingers off your keyboard and put them on a controller. Thats what real gamers do.
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#13 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'MoldOnHold
Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?

They may look better. But that doesn't mean that it's not more technically impressive, people forget that it isn't just about how good it looks in a still screenshot.
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#14 Sacred-Snow
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You do realize there is more to being technically impressive then graphics, right?
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#15 Kirlok
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the review looks like it was made by a hardcore cow

gametrailers ftw

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#16 jbz7890
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'MoldOnHold
Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?

I agree. The statement in the review is just a flat out lie. I really think IGN and Gamespot were paid off. If you look at MGS4 on Gamerankings, the average score is 92%. Thats the lowest for a game that got a 10 from Gamespot.

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#17 killab2oo5
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o.O Isn't that MGS4 picture years and years old?

P.S.- I don't think Crysis looks that sharp on any PC....yet anyways.

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#18 -Jiggles-
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MG4>crysis. graphics obviously dont make the game. Kojima works hard. Give him a break and stop hating. Go buy mgs 1 to 4. Take your fingers off your keyboard and put them on a controller. Thats what real gamers do.ff7isnumbaone

Did you just say console gaming is more important/better than PC gaming?

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#19 MoldOnHold
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'angelkimne
Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?

The y may look better. But that doesn't mean that it's not more technically impressive, people forget that it isn't just about how good it looks in a still screenshot.

I haven't played Uncharted or MGS4, but Gears of War does play very smoothly. At least, the single player part.
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#20 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'jbz7890

Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?

I agree. The statement in the review is just a flat out lie. I really think IGN and Gamespot were paid off. If you look at MGS4 on Gamerankings, the average score is 92%. Thats the lowest for a game that got a 10 from Gamespot.

[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'angelkimne
Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?

They may look better. But that doesn't mean that it's not more technically impressive, people forget that it isn't just about how good it looks in a still screenshot.

Stop agreeing. It makes me nervous that i might be wrong !!!
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#21 jbz7890
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You do realize there is more to being technically impressive then graphics, right?Sacred-Snow

The statement is a lie. To make such a bold claim like Kevin van Nord did, there should be absolutely no debate that it is true. If a reviewer said the same thing about Crysis or Gears of War in 2006, no one would debate it.

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#22 DDX2
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o.O Isn't that MGS4 picture years and years old?

P.S.- I don't think Crysis looks that sharp on any PC....yet anyways.

killab2oo5

the Crysis shot is really old too

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#23 com2006
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There is more technically impressive games on consoles nevermind comparing it to the real most technically impressive game Crysis.
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#24 -Jiggles-
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You do realize there is more to being technically impressive then graphics, right?Sacred-Snow

And Crysis still beats it in that department too.

Crysis's physics are far beyond MGS4's physics. It also has massive outdoor environments with an extreme depth of field perception. Also take into consideration that the AI are more advanced and the detail of Crysis's environments are much higher than MGS4's as well (wind, animals, weather, etc).

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#25 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'MoldOnHold
Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?

The y may look better. But that doesn't mean that it's not more technically impressive, people forget that it isn't just about how good it looks in a still screenshot.

I haven't played Uncharted or MGS4, but Gears of War does play very smoothly. At least, the single player part.

But then theres physics, audio, art style, effects and other stuff aswell.
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#26 lowe0
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One of those has to run on a fixed platform costing $400. The other appears to have been written with the motto "if they can't run it, that's their problem."

I know which one I'm more impressed by.

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#27 jbz7890
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

o.O Isn't that MGS4 picture years and years old?

P.S.- I don't think Crysis looks that sharp on any PC....yet anyways.

DDX2

the Crysis shot is really old too

Who cares how old the shots are, Crysis makes MGS4 look like a PS2 game.

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#28 BioShockOwnz
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MGS4 looks last gen compared to Crysis. Is it a great looking console game? Sure. Does it look better than Crysis? Hell to da no!
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#29 killab2oo5
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[QUOTE="killab2oo5"]

o.O Isn't that MGS4 picture years and years old?

P.S.- I don't think Crysis looks that sharp on any PC....yet anyways.

DDX2

the Crysis shot is really old too

I know but the Crysis pic is ultra high settings isn't it?I thought MGS4 graphics would've improved since then,and they have but not by much. >.> Doesn't look all that special to me,around average.
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#30 mo0ksi
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Crysis is still the best looking game though.

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#31 Pinkyimp
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MG4>crysis. graphics obviously dont make the game. Kojima works hard. Give him a break and stop hating. Go buy mgs 1 to 4. Take your fingers off your keyboard and put them on a controller. Thats what real gamers do.ff7isnumbaone

well that's an opinion but as i see it MGS was more focused on story rather than gameplay and crysis was more focused on graphics than story, they both lose in major aspects but you fail to see that., and "real gamers" can choose what games they want to enjoy, i don't need to put my hand on a controller to enjoy a game and you cant tell me to do so..

and hell for all i could say Thief > MGS... but remember that's OPINIONS

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#32 Kez1984
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:( They just forgot to add 'console'angelkimne

Even then, gamespot isn't a tiny little site, this is a big name in terms of gaming websites, it's a ridiculous mistake or deliberate thing to say.

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#33 IgorVitaly
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[QUOTE="Sacred-Snow"]You do realize there is more to being technically impressive then graphics, right?-Jiggles-

And Crysis still beats it in that department too.

Crysis's physics are far beyond MGS4's physics. It also has massive outdoor environments with an extreme depth of field perception. Also take into consideration that the AI are more advanced and the detail of Crysis's environments are much higher than MGS4's as well (wind, animals, weather, etc).

MGS4 -> bland graphic, blurry textures, low polygon count, jaggied horrible last-gen shadows, low amount of normal mapping, average shader effects, lousy AI, average animations, average physics, ugly looking first person gun and low polygon to.

Crysis, the opposite of all above. /THREAD

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#34 MoldOnHold
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But then theres physics, audio, art style, effects and other stuff aswell.angelkimne
Only physics. Audio and art style is part of the "presentation". :P

All three games have a great physics engine from what I've seen of it. :D

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#35 RazMaTaz-1
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I think they ment in terms of console games. Even so, the character model is by the best ive seen on a console anyway
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#36 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="loco145"]MGS 4 looks amazing.-Jiggles-

Yes, it does.

Not more amazing than Crysis, though.

I can't even run Crysis on my PC! :( Not many people can run it on full settings.
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#37 com2006
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[QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]MGS 4 looks amazing.ragrdoll21

Yes, it does.

Not more amazing than Crysis, though.

I can't even run Crysis on my PC! :( Not many people can run it on full settings.

It still as better physics and looks better at medium settings

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#38 sadikovic
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Crysis is still the best looking game though.

mo0ksi

Good lord you do know that that was the most hilarious thing ever made?!... Crysis has a dynamic day-night system meaning you have to in the same place for the exact same lighting to come into play and it will look almost identical to the first pic.

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#39 stereointegrity
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not saying it looks better then crysis but the game in motion with all the things going on at once make this game amazing to play
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#40 yellowandmushy
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While MGS4 is not the better looking game, I'm pretty sure they meant on the audiovisual level. The graphics are great, the voice acting is phenomenal, and Harry Gregson-Williams is god.
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#41 kostmpekir
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MGS4 is indeed one of the least good looking games this gen
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#42 ragrdoll21
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[QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'jbz7890

Gears of War, Uncharted, and Mass Effect are much more technically impressive than MGS4.

Naw, they're really not. The only one I haven't played was Mass Effect. You need to play through the game, I'm on Act4 and the effects are crazy.
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#43 angelkimne
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="-Jiggles-"]

[QUOTE="loco145"]MGS 4 looks amazing.com2006

Yes, it does.

Not more amazing than Crysis, though.

I can't even run Crysis on my PC! :( Not many people can run it on full settings.

It still as better physics and looks better at medium settings

No way, i have to run it at medium with no AA at 1440x900 with my 8600gt. It doesn't look better than most console games imo.
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#45 IgorVitaly
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Crysis is still the best looking game though.

mo0ksi

False it was never set to very high, the creator of that image faked it (medium high mix), already concluded since months ago. Look below those are my own screenshots at 1280*1024 native with edgeaa 2 and high/very high settings mix. Runs great to at 30-40fps.

Crysis high/very high mix

Crysis high/very high mix

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#46 finalfantasy94
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'ragrdoll21

Gears of War, Uncharted, and Mass Effect are much more technically impressive than MGS4.

Naw, they're really not. The only one I haven't played was Mass Effect. You need to play through the game, I'm on Act4 and the effects are crazy.

Exacly. MGS4 cant be judge by a pic. You have to own it and sit down and play it on a nice HD tv to see what it has to offer. IMO it looks better then gears,uncharted and Mass effect. I also think GS was just refering consoles.

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#47 PS2_ROCKS
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They probably mean in terms of console games.
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#48 -Sphere-
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I find most GS reviews to be suspect these days, especially when comments like these are made. Sadly we live in a world where the only thing that matters is money. Honesty and respect are out the window. Crysis will be the graphics king for many more years and will probably be dethroned by a Crysis sequel.
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#49 heretrix
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I think MGS4's presentation completely blows away Crysis. Yeah I said it.

When I say presentation, I mean not how the graphics look, but how the entire game is presented to you.As good as Crysis looks, to me, the game is incredibly boring. MGS4 is one of the best games overall that I have ever played.

STOP THE HATE.

btw. I did get a good laugh from the TC post though. It was genuinely funny.

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#50 IgorVitaly
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[QUOTE="ragrdoll21"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'finalfantasy94

Gears of War, Uncharted, and Mass Effect are much more technically impressive than MGS4.

Naw, they're really not. The only one I haven't played was Mass Effect. You need to play through the game, I'm on Act4 and the effects are crazy.

Exacly. MGS4 cant be judge by a pic. You have to own it and sit down and play it on a nice HD tv to see what it has to offer. IMO it looks better then gears,uncharted and Mass effect. I also think GS was just refering consoles.

It does look like the frambuffer grabs + less jaggies becouse of more bluriness by TV. And no way it looks better than Uncharted or Mass effect.