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#151 Pandemonium876
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[QUOTE="loco145"]MGS 4 looks amazing.-Jiggles-

Yes, it does.

Not more amazing than Crysis, though.

agreed. I just wish my comp could run it without exploding, lol.

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#152 VoodooGamer
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I played it with 2 gigs of ram and a Quadcore processor and it did not run it well on very high. Is it a memory problem? I dont know but it wasnt running well . Maybe its I havent played it in awhile and they have come out with new drivers? But it did not run well on the system I played it on and I here many other hermits complain about the 8800gtx performance on Crysis as well. Also its hard to get everbodys comments straight as there is like 4 people in our quote chain.

Polaris_choice

The only thing I've heard hermits complaining about when running the game has to do with resolution and AA. Most want to run it at 1600x1200 or higher with at least 2aa. And, I don't mean to pick on Meuk or anything but he wont upgrade his graphics card until one comes out that will run it with a similar resolution 2aa and at 60FPS. Nothing against him or anything but that seems to be what most hermits or at least, a lot of hermits believe. Nothing wrong with that however.

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#153 agentfred
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Also its hard to get everbodys comments straight as there is like 4 people in our quote chain.

Polaris_choice

That's why you are only allowed to quote 5 quotes before you. :roll:

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#154 Lab392
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You do realize there is more to being technically impressive then graphics, right?Sacred-Snow

This.

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#155 coltsfan4ever
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Wow this mgs4 hate is getting ridiculous!!!lol Oh well,keep crying haters!!:cry:
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#156 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'Gamersince81

Gears of War, Uncharted, and Mass Effect are much more technically impressive than MGS4.

Hell no seriously. I beaten all those and MGS4 overall cant be touched by a console game.. Crysis is another story. You guys have to play the game to see where these claims are stemming from. ill give an example. After liquid says "activate it" they show snake in real time... only thing was IT LOOKED REAL no lie. MGS4 has a weird way of presenting graphics that are unreal at times.

Im glad you know what im talking about. The way it will blend seemlesly sometimes to realtime to ingame and some of the scenes even in gameplay look photo realalstic. Like in the SouthAmerica level when the Sun is blazing over your shoulder. It pisses me off you have kids zooming in on a crate to spot a flat texture. In all honesty the textures look pretty outstanding not to mention every texture in the game gets duplicated on the Octocam suite when you lean against it. There are so many things that make it look visually stunning.

If people want to call me a cow then thats fine I own all the platforms excet the Wii. But even comparing games on the same system( uncharted for an example) MGS4 blows it out of the water.

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#157 SSCyborg
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'jbz7890

Even so, Uncharted and Gears look better than this. :?

I agree. The statement in the review is just a flat out lie. I really think IGN and Gamespot were paid off. If you look at MGS4 on Gamerankings, the average score is 92%. Thats the lowest for a game that got a 10 from Gamespot.

Wow, it's even lower than THPS3

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#158 Pandemonium876
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Gamespot has no good creditability anymore, I no longer take thier reviews seriously.xX0LDSCH00LXx

I stopped taking their reviews seriously when the PS3 came out.

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#159 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

Also its hard to get everbodys comments straight as there is like 4 people in our quote chain.

agentfred

That's why you are only allowed to quote 5 quotes before you. :roll:

Lots of people broke that rule.

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#160 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="slickchris7777"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

[QUOTE="crunchUK"]i don't get it... MGS4 doesn't look graphically good at all... why is it suddenly the next crysis? :( i guess cows are imagining that they are playing on a supercomputer so by that logic supercomputer>computer. :(slickchris7777

You dont even own a PS3 like 99% of the people making comments in here.

There haven't been 100 people commenting in here.

What does that have to do with anything? There can be 99% of 10 people that would be 9 people do you hermits need a math lesson to? lol

Somebody sig this

Awesome lmao. Tell me he did that on purpose?

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#161 Gamersince81
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And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

com2006

Not even close buddy. Play MGS4 and you will feel stupid posting those screens. Now, im saying "those" screens not the super high end Crysis. people always wanna use pics.. you must see the game in motion to understand its visuals and detail.

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#162 IgorVitaly
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[QUOTE="Patriot298"][QUOTE="IgorVitaly"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Patriot298"]This thread makes me :lol: . I mean common anyone with sense can look at MGS4 and see that the 10 was a paid deal with advertising. Jeff's firing proves that this happens with Gamespot. MGS4 does not look as good as Crysis or Mass Effect or Gears for that matter. Just look at the first pic posted...Textures look like PS2. I know ps3 fan-boys will wanna flame me for it. I'll wait until the 360 version releases sometime in 09 that way it will be in real 720P and not 576P. I wanna see what people have to say about this game 6 months down the road. Right now people are full of hype.IgorVitaly

Wow. looks like someone is rocking the +1 beanie of ignorance today..

No kidding I love the damage control from all the lemmings and hermits. I own a PS3 and a 360 and if you think Gears of War or Mass Effect is even in the same league as MGS4 you are either blind are just a complete fanboy. And id hate to tell you but the 360 cant even run NG2 at a smooth framrate good chance of it ever coming close to running MGS4 .

"Denial is a beauty" !!!

MGS4

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Crysis

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HL2 PC

HL2

Gears for PC

Gears

Mass Effect for PC

Mass Effect

Nothing to deny. That's what you Cows wanna believe! There are people out there who realise this is a paid job. Anyone with any wisdom knows that. Living in a fantasy world is ignorance.

Me no cow or atleast when I press my "t!ts" there is no milk sipping.... rofl ugghh

No THIS! Most beauthiful and technically generation ahead of any console game, Crysis floors the competition

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#163 deactivated-57af49c27f4e8
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Gamespot was riding the hype train, obviously.-Jiggles-
that's why they're giving away 10's now. gamespot reviewers should be shut into a room with nothing but halo 3 to play until a new game comes out and they can review it without seeing ads or other reviews to copy.
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#164 Polaris_choice
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And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

com2006

Im sorry but I will firmly say that looks like complete crap compared to MGS4 . There is no shadows casting on any of the objexts and the lighting is non existant MGS4 stomps Crysis on medium .

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#166 horrowhip
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

please god tell me that was a joke...

Polaris_choice

The 9 is right next to the 0 on the keybored it was a typeo ZOMG!!! sue me.

so.... you made the same mistake twice?

You dont even own a PS3 like 99% of the people making comments in here.

Polaris_choice

What does that have to do with anything? There can be 99% of 10 people that would be 9 people do you hermits need a math lesson to? lolPolaris_choice

you hit the 0 instead of the 9 two times???

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#167 MedicMike66
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I've heard a lot of negative reactions to the game, from longtime fans.

Kojima tries way too hard to be clever. It's a videogame, not a European art film.

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#168 Gamersince81
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"][QUOTE="jbz7890"]

[QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'Polaris_choice

Gears of War, Uncharted, and Mass Effect are much more technically impressive than MGS4.

Hell no seriously. I beaten all those and MGS4 overall cant be touched by a console game.. Crysis is another story. You guys have to play the game to see where these claims are stemming from. ill give an example. After liquid says "activate it" they show snake in real time... only thing was IT LOOKED REAL no lie. MGS4 has a weird way of presenting graphics that are unreal at times.

Im glad you know what im talking about. The way it will blend seemlesly sometimes to realtime to ingame and some of the scenes even in gameplay look photo realalstic. Like in the SouthAmerica level when the Sun is blazing over your shoulder. It pisses me off you have kids zooming in on a crate to spot a flat texture. In all honesty the textures look pretty outstanding not to mention every texture in the game gets duplicated on the Octocam suite when you lean against it. There are so many things that make it look visually stunning.

If people want to call me a cow then thats fine I own all the platforms excet the Wii. But even comparing games on the same system( uncharted for an example) MGS4 blows it out of the water.

I couldnt agree more. i never played Crysis and thats the only reason why i will not say it looks better. But i will say when i tarted act 2 i thought i was playing a level of Crysis.. that level was beautiful to look at. Its funny i said MGS4 would be console graphics king last week and i had picthforks pinted at me lol.

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#169 IgorVitaly
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Im sorry but I will firmly say that looks like complete crap compared to MGS4 . There is no shadows casting on any of the objexts and the lighting is non existant MGS4 stomps Crysis on medium . Polaris_choice

Muuuuuuuuu!

its shadows everywhere, the dark areas ARE shadows covering the terrain and objects!

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#170 com2006
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[QUOTE="com2006"]

And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

Polaris_choice

Im sorry but I will firmly say that looks like complete crap compared to MGS4 . There is no shadows casting on any of the objexts and the lighting is non existant MGS4 stomps Crysis on medium .

Sorry but that is because of the foliage

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#171 ironcreed
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:lol: These past few days have just been hilarious, man. The lemmings now sound exactly like the cows did about a year ago, "I am not trusting GS scores anymore, they just are not credible. They had to be paid off."

All this because they cannot accept the fact that a PS3 exclusive recieved a perfect score here. As if it is just unacceptable for the PS3 to have a higher scoring game than anything that is on the 360. Please, guys, stop making the rest of us who also own and love the 360 look bad. The damage control over this is some of the worst, most desparate, and bitter fanboyism I have seen on here. Lemmings are by far and large the most notorious group of fanboys....without question.

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#172 Gamersince81
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]Not even close buddy. Play MGS4 and you will feel stupid posting those screens. Now, im saying "those" screens not the super high end Crysis. people always wanna use pics.. you must see the game in motion to understand its visuals and detail.IgorVitaly

Crysis at all medium with textures set to high, MGS4 has no chance, 12 lifetimes prisonemnt for Crysis for brutaly slaughtering MGS4 at medium force! lol

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Sorry, none of those beat MGS4. But maybe in motion they look great?

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#173 Baranga
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Let's look at this:

Or this:

Or this one:

And this one:

They are from a GOD DAMNED USER-CREATED MAP.

You can find the creator's thread about this here: http://www.crymod.com/thread.php?threadid=24786

Don't tell me MGS4's South America looks better than this!

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#174 horrowhip
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Sorry, none of those beat MGS4. But maybe in motion they look great?

Gamersince81

yeah... I wonder why he posted Multiplayer screenshots...

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#175 IgorVitaly
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Sorry, none of those beat MGS4. But maybe in motion they look great?Gamersince81

Well you are allowed to be in denia lif you want ;)

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#176 readingfc_1
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Gamespot was riding the hype train, obviously.-Jiggles-

No, MGS4 is actually a really amazing game.

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#177 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

I think MGS4's presentation completely blows away Crysis. Yeah I said it.

When I say presentation, I mean not how the graphics look, but how the entire game is presented to you.As good as Crysis looks, to me, the game is incredibly boring. MGS4 is one of the best games overall that I have ever played.

STOP THE HATE.

btw. I did get a good laugh from the TC post though. It was genuinely funny.

kostmpekir

MGS4 graphics are some multiple generations behing Crysis visuals, that is a fact

what part of that do you not understand?
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#178 DAZZER7
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[QUOTE="com2006"]

And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

Gamersince81

Not even close buddy. Play MGS4 and you will feel stupid posting those screens. Now, im saying "those" screens not the super high end Crysis. people always wanna use pics.. you must see the game in motion to understand its visuals and detail.

No, no, no...we're not talking about art****or presentation, the specific argument is how the graphics are a technically the best in a video game or something along those lines. I guarantee, on medium settings, the textures will be a higher resolution, there will be better depth of field effects, still some of the most complex dynamic lighting and lets not forget the sheer scale of the environments. From a "technical@ standpoint, crysis>MGS4. Lets also not talk about screen resolution lol.

It really makes me laugh that when people hear crysis on medium settings they say rubbish graphics. It is completely untrue. Crysis on medium still has higher res textures, better hdr, water effect, character models...I could go on. Because, crysis on medium is like most other pc games maxed out.

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#179 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="horrowhip"]

please god tell me that was a joke...

horrowhip

The 9 is right next to the 0 on the keybored it was a typeo ZOMG!!! sue me.

so.... you made the same mistake twice?

You dont even own a PS3 like 99% of the people making comments in here.

Polaris_choice

What does that have to do with anything? There can be 99% of 10 people that would be 9 people do you hermits need a math lesson to? lolPolaris_choice

you hit the 0 instead of the 9 two times???

No I made it the second time get back on topic.

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#180 IgorVitaly
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"]

Sorry, none of those beat MGS4. But maybe in motion they look great?

horrowhip

yeah... I wonder why he posted Multiplayer screenshots...

Doesnt mather if mp or sp same game. Dwarfs MGS4 easily.

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#181 ironcreed
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Chill with the screens, lol. We all know that Crysis looks better graphically. All that was said in some of the reviews is that MGS4 is one of the most technically impressive games ever made. That is more than just graphical prowess.

But, it is the closest thing to Crysis currently on consoles, no doubt about it. And posting a few low res screens to try and downplay it is beyond a joke in contrast to actually PLAYING THE GAME. Hell, you can find bad screenshots of any game....even Crysis.

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#182 liquidsnake1987
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i just read the MGS4 and i didnt see anything where it says MGS4>Crysis in graphics. They said one of the best looking games. Im a sony and MGS fanboy and i know crysis looks better. However, i prefer MGS4 as a total package.
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#183 EuroMafia
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:( They just forgot to add 'console'angelkimne
Too late. GS bias am confirmed.
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#185 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="Gamersince81"][QUOTE="com2006"]

And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

DAZZER7

Not even close buddy. Play MGS4 and you will feel stupid posting those screens. Now, im saying "those" screens not the super high end Crysis. people always wanna use pics.. you must see the game in motion to understand its visuals and detail.

No, no, no...we're not talking about art****or presentation, the specific argument is how the graphics are a technically the best in a video game or something along those lines. I guarantee, on medium settings, the textures will be a higher resolution, there will be better depth of field effects, still some of the most complex dynamic lighting and lets not forget the sheer scale of the environments. From a "technical@ standpoint, crysis>MGS4. Lets also not talk about screen resolution lol.

It really makes me laugh that when people hear crysis on medium settings they say rubbish graphics. It is completely untrue. Crysis on medium still has higher res textures, better hdr, water effect, character models...I could go on. Because, crysis on medium is like most other pc games maxed out.

Um no Ill say it once and Ill say it again Crysis on medium looks like complete garbage compared to MGS4 . Better HDR? Um where? Its virtually non existant. Better shadows? Um the box doesnt even cast a shadow on the ground. In MGS4 if you run under the tree you can see the branches reflected on his suite. Better character models? Um thats hillarious MGS4 char models are far superior. Better textures? Um in some areas yes but its lighting, shadows and next gen effects look horrid on medium in comparison. Yet again if you played it you wouldnt even argue with me .

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#186 bleehum
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I find it especially funny when people who have never even played the game come in the thread saying the animations and AI are terrible.
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#187 Ninja-Hippo
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I'm pretty sure by "technically impressive" they meant the combination of graphics, effects, animation and sound. And i'd agree with them.
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#189 Holden1985
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MGS4 looks no better that COD4.

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#190 jknight5422
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Too bad Crysis isn't coming to the 360. It's too much game for my PC. I wouldn't upgrade my PC to play Crysis anymore than I would buy a PS3 to play that new game with the geezer in it.

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#191 IgorVitaly
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Chill with the screens, lol. We all know that Crysis looks better graphically. All that was said in some of the reviews is that MGS4 is one of the most technically impressive games ever made. That is more than just graphical prowess.

But, it is the closest thing to Crysis currently on consoles, no doubt about it. And posting a few low res screens to try and downplay it is beyond a joke in contrast to actually PLAYING THE GAME. Hell, you can find bad screenshots of any game....even Crysis.

ironcreed

Be in denial then, those screenshots are true game buffer grabs, hey follow the link for more, its taken by ps3 fans.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=312302

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#192 shearMario
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[QUOTE="DAZZER7"][QUOTE="Gamersince81"][QUOTE="com2006"]

And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

Polaris_choice

Not even close buddy. Play MGS4 and you will feel stupid posting those screens. Now, im saying "those" screens not the super high end Crysis. people always wanna use pics.. you must see the game in motion to understand its visuals and detail.

No, no, no...we're not talking about art****or presentation, the specific argument is how the graphics are a technically the best in a video game or something along those lines. I guarantee, on medium settings, the textures will be a higher resolution, there will be better depth of field effects, still some of the most complex dynamic lighting and lets not forget the sheer scale of the environments. From a "technical@ standpoint, crysis>MGS4. Lets also not talk about screen resolution lol.

It really makes me laugh that when people hear crysis on medium settings they say rubbish graphics. It is completely untrue. Crysis on medium still has higher res textures, better hdr, water effect, character models...I could go on. Because, crysis on medium is like most other pc games maxed out.

Um no Ill say it once and Ill say it again Crysis on medium looks like complete garbage compared to MGS4 . Better HDR? Um where? Its virtually non existant. Better shadows? Um the box doesnt even cast a shadow on the ground. In MGS4 if you run under the tree you can see the branches reflected on his suite. Better character models? Um thats hillarious MGS4 char models are far superior. Better textures? Um in some areas yes but its lighting, shadows and next gen effects look horrid on medium in comparison. Yet again if you played it you wouldnt even argue with me .

There is shadowing but like real life if you are in the shade you don't cast shadows! look at the fence you can see the sunlight beaming through

this is the best I could find for MGS4 and in no way does it compete with Crysis on Medium let alone high!

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#193 Arjdagr8
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And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

com2006

is that crysis on medium? no offense but it doesnt look that great. the lighting is horrid and there are hardly any good shadows. the filter effects have been reduced. the floor textures and trees look nice though.
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#194 horrowhip
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Doesnt mather if mp or sp same game. Dwarfs MGS4 easily.IgorVitaly

The fact that it is MP does matter.

They completely sterilized the MP graphics. The Time of Day is never dramatic, just always mid-day, very bright out. Time of Day has more to do with how good a Crysis screenshot looks than in ANY other game I have ever seen.

I won't deny that MGS4 look better than the "Medium" settings, but a mix of Medium and High, leaning more towards the "High" side, does beat MGS4.

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#195 IgorVitaly
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MGS4 looks no better that COD4.

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#196 horrowhip
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is that crysis on medium? no offense but it doesnt look that great. the lighting is horrid and there are hardly any good shadows. the filter effects have been reduced. the floor textures and trees look nice though.
Arjdagr8

that is a bad shot... he is standing in a big shadow and the trees can't cast their own shadows as a result...

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#197 jknight5422
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[QUOTE="EuroMafia"][QUOTE="angelkimne"]:( They just forgot to add 'console'agentfred

Too late. GS bias am confirmed.

They're biased towards the PS3 I take it?

I think what has happened is that GS has appeared biased towards the 360 the entire time, so in order to appear impartial, they have thrown the cows a bone...lest they get "mad cow" disease, which is aptly portrayed in System Wars all the time.

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#198 IgorVitaly
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is that crysis on medium? no offense but it doesnt look that great. the lighting is horrid and there are hardly any good shadows. the filter effects have been reduced. the floor textures and trees look nice though.
Arjdagr8

It is all made up of shadows, the vegetation is coveringthe sun, thats called REALISTIC!

Look at this photo of the forest would you say it is also shadow less? muuu?

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#199 shearMario
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[QUOTE="com2006"]

And yes Crysis does look better than MGS4 on all medium:

I'm not saying Crysis is a better game overall but I know for a fact it wipes the floor with MGS4 visually.

Arjdagr8

is that crysis on medium? no offense but it doesnt look that great. the lighting is horrid and there are hardly any good shadows. the filter effects have been reduced. the floor textures and trees look nice though.

The reason for poor shadowing is he has taken the shots in the shade, so shadows can't be casted look at the fence you can see the sun light beaming through.

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#200 Kez1984
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Isn't that a multiplayer crysis screen-shot?