Crysis is better than Killzone 2 and Halo 3

HALO 3 is a much better game than Crysis and Killzone 2 combined. The other two may be graphically superior but that is where it ends.

crysis is too light, it wasn't action pack enough compare to halo 3 or killzone 2, but i still prefer it over halo3, but killzone 2 is the best fps IMO

Me too it gotta be the level design . The levels just dont feel like an island, more like a linearized map, follow that road and go to that korean base.dakan45

its the way your playing then. i never felt like a game had more possibilities than in crysis. do i blow up this hous and distract the gaurds? do i take this road? do i use speed+streagth to jump over these houses and bypass them altogther? do i take the high grounds in the forest? do i take the beach? should i take the vehical? should i shopot out the tires so they cant use it but i cant either?

the choices werent endless per se but they were numerous and more numerous than in pretty much anyother game without being convoluted and unnecessary.

[QUOTE="biggest_loser"]I highly doubt that either KZ2 and Halo 3 provide as much freedom as Crysis or as much improvisation. None of these games will be remember for their narratives though :P Kiyobear

Halo will be memorable to fans of the franchise and while I don't like any game in the series but the first I do like the Halo universe. KZ has great atmosphere at least. Crysis just... annoyed the hell out of me.

Crytek is going to make a multi-platform game and it will suck. PC gamers will say it's because they went multi-plat and consoles ruined the game. I say it's because they are a one trick pony; that trick being top notch visuals. Take that away from them and they are a mediocre developer.

yeah totally mediocre thats why FC is considered one of the worst FPSs ever as is crysis, all generic and all graphics no gameplay or anything right?

[QUOTE="dakan45"] Me too it gotta be the level design . The levels just dont feel like an island, more like a linearized map, follow that road and go to that korean base.washd123

its the way your playing then. i never felt like a game had more possibilities than in crysis. do i blow up this hous and distract the gaurds? do i take this road? do i use speed+streagth to jump over these houses and bypass them altogther? do i take the high grounds in the forest? do i take the beach? should i take the vehical? should i shopot out the tires so they cant use it but i cant either?

the choices werent endless per se but they were numerous and more numerous than in pretty much anyother game without being convoluted and unnecessary.

HALO 3 is a much better game than Crysis and Killzone 2 combined. The other two may be graphically superior but that is where it ends.

sexy_robot_man

Really?
But what standard. Because last time I check

Crysis 9.5

Halo 3 9.5

Soooooooooooo you really can't say halo 3 is better now can you?

The maps are fundementally linear in design, the player is throttled by the level geometry from point A to point B. However how you get from point A to point B is non linear, sandbox in design. Its true, it doesn't have those 'island levels' like Far Cry (mind you there were only a few in Far Cry), however even those in Far Cry were also restrictive in throttling the player into certain approaches, and the way you progressed from point A to B did not provide nearly as much gameplay options or choice as Crysis did. There is also the nanosuit factor.skrat_01

thats basically what i was trying to say. the progression was still the same linear way. but it was how you got to a b or sometimes c that separates it from other games.

the fact that more people play halo 3 mp right now compared to crysis wars is testament enough to halo 3 being better than crysis. kz2 cant touch either of them.mtradr43

lol using multiplayer as a standard for a single player game brilliant logic.

[QUOTE="mtradr43"]the fact that more people play halo 3 mp right now compared to crysis wars is testament enough to halo 3 being better than crysis. kz2 cant touch either of them.washd123

lol using multiplayer as a standard for a single player game brilliant logic.

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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]the fact that more people play halo 3 mp right now compared to crysis wars is testament enough to halo 3 being better than crysis. kz2 cant touch either of them.mtradr43

lol using multiplayer as a standard for a single player game brilliant logic.

lolololololol omg that was a good one seriously. more replay value in halo 3 ahahahhahahahaha ok. so we now know your opinion on the matter is invalid.

PC can make better graphics than consoles????

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[QUOTE="mtradr43"]the fact that more people play halo 3 mp right now compared to crysis wars is testament enough to halo 3 being better than crysis. kz2 cant touch either of them.mtradr43

lol using multiplayer as a standard for a single player game brilliant logic.

more replay value? i loved halo 3 but its obvious you havent played crysis, or if you did, you didnt quite "get it"

You proved that Crysis LOOKS better than KZ2 but thats its better game. Overall IMO H3 and KZ2 are way better games.Magik85

and why that??

not in multiplayer or gameplay

It's sad that many people only consider good multiplayer games "good" nowadays. But well, to each his own.

IMO, Crysis Multiplayer wasn't all that good but the singleplayer is made of pure gold. The first levels have a lot of freedom and while the last few are more linear they are also very exciting.

And who do you think you are to decide what a "good FPS gameplay" is like? Just because you prefer one type of shooter over another does not make it better for everyone. That's just your opinion and it isn't any more valid than anyone elses.

I like the gunplay in Crysis.

You have pistols, shotguns, assault rifles, sniper rifles, rocket launchers, explosive charges, frag, smoke and flash bang grenades plos some cool alien devices. Most of weapons have 2 modes of fire, and you can shoot using iron sights, reflex sights, assault scopes and sniper scopes in almos any large weapon, plus laser pointers to increase your accuracy and sound suppressors to minimize your pressence at the cost of less damage per shot. Yoa also have grenade launcher addons, incendiary bullets and in Warhead claymore and AT-mines, EMP grenades and dual wielding smgs.

You have tons of options to destroy things in Crysis: shoot the fuel tank in the vehicles to blow them, shot the tires to make they to lose the control, fire a 40 mm grenade to make they jump over your head, take a heavy chaingun turret to trample over the enemies or even better: put a C4 charge in your jeep and drive against the next and jump off two seconds before click the detonator in the middle of a dozen of surprised KPA nerds.

Only problem that I see is the overall lack of variety in enemies (soldiers, elite soldiers, vehicles and four different aliens) and the fact that the game is much easier than Far Cry (even in Delta). But the gunplay is nice.

Crysis MP is not so good because it hasnt physic and the graphics laggs, but you can set it to normal and it would still has better graphics than halo and killzone.

For 0:20 to 0:47 :

Yo dawg i heard you like watching youtube videos so i put a youtube video in your youtube video so you can watch youtube while you watch youtube.

Ok sry about that , i always wanted to say a "yo dawg" joke

On topic, these games are too different to compare gameplay wise(killzone 2 is way more linear and scripted) , graphics wise i think most will agree that crysis is far better.

I heard soldiers just sort of stand around while you snipe people standing right next to them in crysis, is that true?

For 0:20 to 0:47 :

Yo dawg i heard you like watching youtube videos so i put a youtube video in your youtube video so you can watch youtube while you watch youtube.

Ok sry about that , i always wanted to say a "yo dawg" joke

On topic, these games are too different to compare gameplay wise(killzone 2 is way more linear and scripted) , graphics wise i think most will agree that crysis is far better.

Apssei

lol i know and good one, this guy haven't played Killzone and to proof something put a youtube video on the youtube video :lol:

And we all know that Crysis looks better than anything

Technically, yes. But that's what's measurable and the rest is nothing more but your opinion, as you yourself state as well. Nothing much to discuss. We can just share our opinions.

As for mine. I played through Halo 3, played about 1/3 of Killzone at a friend's andplayed just a little bit of Crysis atthis same friend's place. Killzone 2 appealed most to me from what I've experienced, but in all honesty I haven't played enough of Crysis to have a well informed opinion on it.

As for the replies in this thread: one of the most annoying things in SW, is people who have an opinion about a game without ever having touched it. You know who you are. That fact invalidates large parts of discussion about games on this forum.

i just finished playing crysis demo on high settings, it doesnt look as good as those screenshots people post on this forum (yes i tried the game on very high settings as well with full 1080p resolutions, still doesnt look that good). overall i think its a good game but i wouldnt say its better then kz2

Right...

I've played all Halo FPS games, beat Halo 3 midnight release on Legendary the first night and found all the skuls the same night. The campaign was pretty average, yet it did have it's epic parts. Multiplayer is what makes the Halo games, not the SP.

I beat Killzone 2 aswell, Rico ruined the campaign but it was definitely better than Halo 3's campaign. And had epic multiplayer to boot.

Crysis has superior graphics to both games combined. I don't know why people say it has "bad / weak" gameplay, the game is a pure FIRST PERSON SHOOTER. FPS = FIRST PERSON SHOOTER. Saying it's not a "pure" FPS is being an obvious console fanboy, and just plain ignorant. No one can really defend their statement on why they bash Crysis, no one ever will because the game is very good. Has a good story, and it's told well. The gameplay is fine. However crysis does not have very good MP support, but makes up for it with Crysis wars, but still imo KZ2 and H3 beat crysis in MP. But other than that they get crushed in categories by crysis.

i just finished playing crysis demo on high settings, it doesnt look as good as those screenshots people post on this forum (yes i tried the game on very high settings as well with full 1080p resolutions, still doesnt look that good). overall i think its a good game but i wouldnt say its better then kz2

sikanderahmed

Most of a screenshots are modded, like a modded config file or the natural mod to bring out the best in crysis.

I heard soldiers just sort of stand around while you snipe people standing right next to them in crysis, is that true?

topgunmv

on easy mode theres some glitches like that yet. but try that on hard or especially delta and no youll be f*cked.

KZ2's MP or Halo's MP > Crysis MP, at least from my point of view. And that's one of the most important points of FPSs especially these days.abuabed

the most important part of singleplayer games is the multiplayer? uh come again?

[QUOTE="abuabed"]KZ2's MP or Halo's MP > Crysis MP, at least from my point of view. And that's one of the most important points of FPSs especially these days.washd123

the most important part of singleplayer games is the multiplayer? uh come again?

I prefer a million times the Single player than the multiplayer

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="abuabed"]KZ2's MP or Halo's MP > Crysis MP, at least from my point of view. And that's one of the most important points of FPSs especially these days.Pelon208

the most important part of singleplayer games is the multiplayer? uh come again?

I prefer a million times the Single player than the multiplayer

k. still has no relevance ont he quality of the single player game. otherwise lets throw multiplayer games into the mix. halo 3 and KZ2 mp are sh*t compared to most multiplayer games.

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[QUOTE="washd123"]

the most important part of singleplayer games is the multiplayer? uh come again?

washd123

I prefer a million times the Single player than the multiplayer

k. still has no relevance ont he quality of the single player game. otherwise lets throw multiplayer games into the mix. halo 3 and KZ2 mp are sh*t compared to most multiplayer games.

Yes i know, i just wanted to say that i prefer single player than multiplayer

Yes i know, i just wanted to say that i prefer single player than multiplayer

Pelon208

wait nevermind. damnit i need to read more carefully.

[QUOTE="abuabed"]KZ2's MP or Halo's MP > Crysis MP, at least from my point of view. And that's one of the most important points of FPSs especially these days.washd123

the most important part of singleplayer games is the multiplayer? uh come again?

He's right to a certain degree. I have near to 250 hours in the Crysis Wars mp, and although I like it the game lacks some aspects very popular on most played fps those days. Crysis Wars has no permanent stats system with unlockable weapons and items nor ranking degree improvements, as in COD 4/WaW, BF2/Bad Company, Quake Wars, Halo 3 or Killzone 2. This features keeps busy a lot of people while they are playing until reach all locked content. Crysis Wars is more focused to test skills, more cold in the way of old UT and Quake experiences, and as with Quake Wars the learning curve is hard.

On graphics alone? Laughable. Halo has a better campaign and the multiplayer of Crysis isn't even worthy of comparing it to Halo's. Congrats Crysis is a prettier game, now if only it weren't generic shooter with bad multiplayer.Mau-Justice

The campaign vs campaign is purely opinion. However, Crysis is not generic nor as linear as Halo 3's campaign.

Of course it's better, people actually don't know this? I mean they are console FPSs... doesn't take much.

[QUOTE="Pelon208"]

Yes i know, i just wanted to say that i prefer single player than multiplayer

washd123

wait nevermind. damnit i need to read more carefully.

lol don't worry

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="abuabed"]KZ2's MP or Halo's MP > Crysis MP, at least from my point of view. And that's one of the most important points of FPSs especially these days.Ondoval

the most important part of singleplayer games is the multiplayer? uh come again?

He's right to a certain degree. I have near to 250 hours in the Crysis Wars mp, and although I like it the game lacks some aspects very popular on most played fps those days. Crysis Wars has no permanent stats system with unlockable weapons and items nor ranking degree improvements, as in COD 4/WaW, BF2/Bad Company, Quake Wars, Halo 3 or Killzone 2. This features keeps busy a lot of people while they are playing until reach all locked content. Crysis Wars is more focused to test skills, more cold in the way of old UT and Quake experiences, and as with Quake Wars the learning curve is hard.

youre comparing single player games to multiplayer games. multiplayer is simply and addon for a single player game.

[QUOTE="sikanderahmed"]

i just finished playing crysis demo on high settings, it doesnt look as good as those screenshots people post on this forum (yes i tried the game on very high settings as well with full 1080p resolutions, still doesnt look that good). overall i think its a good game but i wouldnt say its better then kz2

SamGv

Most of a screenshots are modded, like a modded config file or the natural mod to bring out the best in crysis.

Crysis is okay, but I wouldn't call it good.

The Nano Suit isn't too amazing, and the only modes that are useful are the default defense mode, and Stealth.
Speed can be used to escape if detected, but if you use stealth effectively then it should never happen, and while strength does help if you're gonna jump up a ledge or something, there's usually a way around that will allow you to stay hidden.

The plot and characters are meh, and forgettable.

The environment is okay, although it seems as if Crytech cant seem to escape the jungle, and it's a shame that the game has really good Snow and (dynamic) Ice effects, but they're only used at the end of the game, and even then there's only a few places that are completely covered in snow.

The only level that actually impressed me was the Core, but only because it was a good way to show off volumetric lights.

Not saying that KZ2 or H3 are any better, but Crysis is just as overrated.

[QUOTE="johnny27"]Crysis has amazing graphics and great gameplay i find in an overall improvement over farcry.

dakan45

i think all shooters have bad gameplay in general,

Hexen and the old Dooms are still the best out there

thats why i prefer to have better graphics

SLIisaownsystem

Yeah i agree all those have bad gameplay compared to doom 2, quake 2 and half life.

I haven't played old school FPS like the original doom in a while but how is the gameplay anywhere near as fun as crysis, if both had the same graphics, I would still go to crysis over all three of those games(except maybe hl, depending on whether or not I feel like playing a game with an amazing gameplay or amazing story).

[QUOTE="SLIisaownsystem"]

I did a Video on Youtube to proofing that Crysis is better than Killzone 2, Killzone 2 looks not bad but common Crysis owns the Game in every category. Where is Halo?, well for me is the game not even worth to put it on my Video and do comparisons and to mention it in my Video.

Thats all my opnion how you see you the things?`????

Stumpt25

I haven't played Crysis, so I wouldn't know. :( But millions of people enjoy Halo 3 daily, so it's doing a lot of things right.

Crysis is okay, but I wouldn't call it good.

The Nano Suit isn't too amazing, and the only modes that are useful are the default defense mode, and Stealth.
Speed can be used to escape if detected, but if you use stealth effectively then it should never happen, and while strength does help if you're gonna jump up a ledge or something, there's usually a way around that will allow you to stay hidden.

The plot and characters are meh, and forgettable.

The environment is okay, although it seems as if Crytech cant seem to escape the jungle, and it's a shame that the game has really good Snow and (dynamic) Ice effects, but they're only used at the end of the game, and even then there's only a few places that are completely covered in snow.

The only level that actually impressed me was the Core, but only because it was a good way to show off volumetric lights.

Not saying that KZ2 or H3 are any better, but Crysis is just as overrated.

swazidoughman

Stealth is the less useful mode in single player campaign and Instant Action/Team Instant Action multiplyer -but very powerful tool in Power Struggle multiplayer if is used correctly-. Stealth is useless vs aliens and makes the A.I. to fail sometimes in remember the last time they shoot you, specially if you're sniping with supressor (cloack + silencers breaks the game in sp). On the other hand, Strength is a insta-kill in multiplayer and against almost any enemy in the campaign except vehicles and larger aliens. Strength is also indispensable in multiplayer in order to strafe jumping and to access to high locations, special weapons, good sniping areas. Speed is also used in strafe jumping and can be invaluable to certain tactics as to cross dangerous open areas or to put a C4 in a enemy vehiche and run. Armor mode is the most useful power since it basically doubles the amount of damage you can stand. So, IMO Armor>Strenght/Speed>Cloack.

Comparing Crysis to MGS4 -in which you can also use some interesting power from your suit and you have access to a big amount of stuff, is obvious that MGS4 has a more intense use of cc combat and a broader range of animations, but with lesser options in shooting -and the pace of combat much more slower. Obviously in plot and characters MGS4 tramples over Cryisis -no surprise here, or versus almost any other game- but the freedom in Crysis is higher.