Crysis is not Graphics King

mirrors edge's lighting isnt even close to crysis dude, doesnt even have day and night cycle, cant pick up lightsources and cast shadows, and the shadows look crappier.

goodtobeback

also yeah. people are saying the ue3 is really out of date. what im thinking is, developers can spend more time with that engine and make games that can still push (or get close to pushing) visual boundaries in gaming today. its a very flexible engine, so i dont see where the hate's coming from.yellosnolvr

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mirrors edge's lighting isnt even close to crysis dude, doesnt even have day and night cycle, cant pick up lightsources and cast shadows, and the shadows look crappier.

marq4porsche

i think u need to play crysis warhead.

the original crysis honestly looks like dog crap compared to it.

[QUOTE="yellosnolvr"]also yeah. people are saying the ue3 is really out of date. what im thinking is, developers can spend more time with that engine and make games that can still push (or get close to pushing) visual boundaries in gaming today. its a very flexible engine, so i dont see where the hate's coming from.theuncharted34

I think some people are just sick of it being used in a ton of games. I don't know why, it is a nice engine.

Metro on DX11 says hey sup

1. Crysis and Metro are tied to me to be honest (cyrsis is more open though)

2. Mirrors Edge

3. ARMA2

4. Napoleon Total War

5. Uncharted2 or Heavy Rain

Think those are the best graphics personally.

In all honesty I think after Crysis and Metro its a toss up.

lightmass static global illumination proves unreal engine 3 lighting doesnt have **** on cryengine 2/3's lighting.

mirrors edge's lighting isnt even close to crysis dude, doesnt even have day and night cycle, cant pick up lightsources and cast shadows, and the shadows look crappier.

goodtobeback

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mirrors edge's lighting isnt even close to crysis dude, doesnt even have day and night cycle, cant pick up lightsources and cast shadows, and the shadows look crappier.

ferret-gamer

nope, wolfenstein even using doom3 engine has better shadows.

doom3 engine's lighting still owns unreal engine 3's.

Metro on DX11 says hey sup

1. Crysis and Metro are tied to me to be honest (cyrsis is more open though)

2. Mirrors Edge

3. ARMA2

4. Napoleon Total War

5. Uncharted2 or Heavy Rain

Think those are the best graphics personally.

In all honesty I think after Crysis and Metro its a toss up.

kozzy1234

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mirrors edge's lighting isnt even close to crysis dude, doesnt even have day and night cycle, cant pick up lightsources and cast shadows, and the shadows look crappier.

goodtobeback

i think u need to play crysis warhead.

the original crysis honestly looks like dog crap compared to it.

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mirrors edge's lighting isnt even close to crysis dude, doesnt even have day and night cycle, cant pick up lightsources and cast shadows, and the shadows look crappier.

goodtobeback

i think u need to play crysis warhead.

the original crysis honestly looks like dog crap compared to it.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="yellosnolvr"] Who said it needed one? Not all games need a day night cycle. Plus I think you need to play Mirrors Edge on PC man

yellosnolvr

i think u need to play crysis warhead.

the original crysis honestly looks like dog crap compared to it.

static lighting looks like crap, u can tell this is lightmaps

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y216/marq4porsche/PC%20Game%20Screenshots/Better%20than%20crysis/MirrorsEdge2010-12-3021-45-54-02.jpg?t=1293931557

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[QUOTE="marq4porsche"] Who said it needed one? Not all games need a day night cycle. Plus I think you need to play Mirrors Edge on PC man

marq4porsche

i think u need to play crysis warhead.

the original crysis honestly looks like dog crap compared to it.

trust me dude, i bought warhead before buying original crysis...going back to original crysis i was like omg this looks so outdated lol.

*Cracks knuckles.* Lets end this argument once and for all. So mistergoodtobeback, would you argue about what Crytek, the makers of Crysis. Say in regards to their own game and dynamic vs precomputed lighting would you?

I thought not. So here is something right out of Crysis 2's GI technology paper, written by crytek. Again, the people who made crysis.

See that little thing called Lighting quality, where they state that Lightmaps are higher quality than their dynamic lighting propagation. Now you want to know another thing?Lighting propagation is much higher quality than what Crysis 1/ Warhead use, Yet lower quality than a static solution like Mirror's edge.

/Argument.

I dont remember Mirrors Edge looking that good :o

Shirokishi_

Fixd

*Cracks knuckles.* Lets end this argument once and for all. So mistergoodtobeback, would you argue about what Crytek, the makers of Crysis. Say in regards to their own game and dynamic vs precomputed lighting would you?

I thought not. So here is something right out of Crysis 2's GI technology paper, written by crytek. Again, the people who made crysis.

See that little thing called Lighting quality, where they state that Lightmaps are higher quality than their dynamic lighting propagation. Now you want to know another thing?Lighting propagation is much higher quality than what Crysis 1/ Warhead use, Yet lower quality than a static solution like Mirror's edge.

/Argument.

ferret-gamer

people who are making crysis 2 didnt make original crysis.

it's obvious when games use lightmapping it makes the lighting look horrible.

rage looks like crap because it uses lightmaps.

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*Cracks knuckles.* Lets end this argument once and for all. So mistergoodtobeback, would you argue about what Crytek, the makers of Crysis. Say in regards to their own game and dynamic vs precomputed lighting would you?

I thought not. So here is something right out of Crysis 2's GI technology paper, written by crytek. Again, the people who made crysis.

See that little thing called Lighting quality, where they state that Lightmaps are higher quality than their dynamic lighting propagation. Now you want to know another thing?Lighting propagation is much higher quality than what Crysis 1/ Warhead use, Yet lower quality than a static solution like Mirror's edge.

/Argument.

goodtobeback

people who are making crysis 2 didnt make original crysis.

Yes they are..... :? Free Radical is tasked in making the multiplayer but the engine, that paper, and the single player are all made by the same people who made Crysis 1.

shadows are too inaccurate in lightmapped crap.

the actual light up places dont look right when contrast to the shadows.

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*Cracks knuckles.* Lets end this argument once and for all. So mistergoodtobeback, would you argue about what Crytek, the makers of Crysis. Say in regards to their own game and dynamic vs precomputed lighting would you?

I thought not. So here is something right out of Crysis 2's GI technology paper, written by crytek. Again, the people who made crysis.

See that little thing called Lighting quality, where they state that Lightmaps are higher quality than their dynamic lighting propagation. Now you want to know another thing?Lighting propagation is much higher quality than what Crysis 1/ Warhead use, Yet lower quality than a static solution like Mirror's edge.

/Argument.

ferret-gamer

people who are making crysis 2 didnt make original crysis.

Yes they are..... :? Free Radical is tasked in making the multiplayer but the engine, that paper, and the single player are all made by the same people who made Crysis 1.

crysis original dev's didnt make crysis warhead.

crytek has a bunch of studios around world.

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[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

people who are making crysis 2 didnt make original crysis.

goodtobeback

Yes they are..... :? Free Radical is tasked in making the multiplayer but the engine, that paper, and the single player are all made by the same people who made Crysis 1.

crysis original dev's didnt make crysis warhead.

crytek has a bunch of studios around world.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Yes they are..... :? Free Radical is tasked in making the multiplayer but the engine, that paper, and the single player are all made by the same people who made Crysis 1.

ferret-gamer

crysis original dev's didnt make crysis warhead.

crytek has a bunch of studios around world.

nope, crytek has like 3 or 4 studios dude plus free radical

john carmack said lightmaps look better, but they dont lol.

Metro on DX11 says hey sup

1. Crysis and Metro are tied to me to be honest (cyrsis is more open though)

2. Mirrors Edge

3. ARMA2

4. Napoleon Total War

5. Uncharted2 or Heavy Rain

Think those are the best graphics personally.

In all honesty I think after Crysis and Metro its a toss up.

kozzy1234

A console game should not be anywhere near the top 5.....not even top 30.

I am not sure why no one has brought up Mafia 2 yet.

It looks great on PC.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

crysis original dev's didnt make crysis warhead.

crytek has a bunch of studios around world.

goodtobeback

nope, crytek has like 3 or 4 studios dude plus free radical

john carmack said lightmaps look better, but they dont lol.

Lightmaps and prebaked GI can produce much higher quality lighting than any dynamic lighting system, why dont you look out side once in a while, study how light interacts, then come back, and while you are at it why dont you look up how each type of lighting works before continuing arguing.

Any method that pre-calculates lighting has the opportunity for much much higher quality than a realtime implementation. You're talking about the difference between taking a few milliseconds to render and a taking minutes or even hours. It gives you the opportunity to support things like GI and soft shadows without compromises or hacks. The obvious downsides are that your quality is tied to how much memory you use to store your lighting (whether its in light maps or per-vertex), and also that the artists may have to deal with long iteration times. The latter reason is why CryTek is all about doing everything in real-time...because they want their editor to be rapid-iteration with real-time editing.

Metro looks amazing, but like I said earlier, the human characters really let this game down. Crysis has the best characters for miles around. It does so many things well even that it gets free pass on the things it does poorly. Low res textures are only one of the things, especially on the ground textures. I hate how the edges of leaves are always jaggie to some degree, even on high. And draw distance, draw distance, draw distance. That first image shows exactly what I mean. Look at the detail on the beach shot.

Mafia looks good too but not quite as good due to lower res textures. You can see it on the clothing.

Metro looks amazing, but like I said earlier, the human characters really let this game down. Crysis has the best characters for miles around. It does so many things well even that it gets free pass on the things it does poorly. Low res textures are only one of the things, especially on the ground textures. I hate how the edges of leaves are always jaggie to some degree, even on high. And draw distance, draw distance, draw distance. That first image shows exactly what I mean. Look at the detail on the beach shot.

Mafia looks good too but not quite as good due to lower res textures. You can see it on the clothing.

marq4porsche

i think alien vs predator 3 looks better than metro2033 pretty much.

i think alien vs predator 3 looks better than metro2033 pretty much.

goodtobeback

...What? :?

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i think alien vs predator 3 looks better than metro2033 pretty much.

Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

...What? :?

the models look better on avp3 and textures

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i think alien vs predator 3 looks better than metro2033 pretty much.

Ikuto_Tsukiyomi

...What? :?

[QUOTE="Ikuto_Tsukiyomi"]

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

i think alien vs predator 3 looks better than metro2033 pretty much.

goodtobeback

...What? :?

the models look better on avp3 and textures

post full resolution pics of these amazing avp3 textures please.

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i think alien vs predator 3 looks better than metro2033 pretty much.

goodtobeback

...What? :?

the models look better on avp3 and textures

Ive only played the crysis demo maxed out... but its incredibly ugly. I would venture to say many console games can beat it... not on technical merit, but in just overall visual appeal.

is the crysis everyone drools over a modded version? Is there anyway i can experience it without buying anything? because i have no desire to actually play the game, just wanna look at it.

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[QUOTE="Ikuto_Tsukiyomi"]

...What? :?

soulitane

the models look better on avp3 and textures

metro2033 looking better is opinion too.

too bad u cant shoot out all the light fixtures like avp3 lol.

i know avp3 uses tessellation and metro2033 does also but it doesnt really use tessellation for textures like avp3.

Ive only played the crysis demo maxed out... but its incredibly ugly. I would venture to say many console games can beat it... not on technical merit, but in just overall visual appeal.

is the crysis everyone drools over a modded version? Is there anyway i can experience it without buying anything? because i have no desire to actually play the game, just wanna look at it.

markinthedark

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Ive only played the crysis demo maxed out... but its incredibly ugly. I would venture to say many console games can beat it... not on technical merit, but in just overall visual appeal.

is the crysis everyone drools over a modded version? Is there anyway i can experience it without buying anything? because i have no desire to actually play the game, just wanna look at it.

ferret-gamer

Alright, ill give it a shot. Its the "natural mod" that everyone likes, right? or is there something better now?

although i only have a gtx 460, so i dunno how much better i can go... was surprised it was even struggling to maintain 30fps on the crysis demo. I only got it a few days ago, but hopefully there is some room to OC (certainly runs alot cooler than my 8800gtx). I was a little let down after upgrading... Does crysis require an SLI setup to appreciate?

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="markinthedark"]

Ive only played the crysis demo maxed out... but its incredibly ugly. I would venture to say many console games can beat it... not on technical merit, but in just overall visual appeal.

is the crysis everyone drools over a modded version? Is there anyway i can experience it without buying anything? because i have no desire to actually play the game, just wanna look at it.

markinthedark

Alright, ill give it a shot. Its the "natural mod" that everyone likes, right? or is there something better now?

although i only have a gtx 460, so i dunno how much better i can go... was surprised it was even struggling to maintain 30fps on the crysis demo. I only got it a few days ago, but hopefully there is some room to OC (certainly runs alot cooler than my 8800gtx). I was a little let down after upgrading... Does crysis require an SLI setup to appreciate?

kind dumb picture because it's not inside but i can find indoor area's that look better.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zl3rte.jpg

lol i think black ops looks better than metro2033.

kind dumb picture because it's not inside but i can find indoor area's that look better.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zl3rte.jpg

lol i think black ops looks better than metro2033.

goodtobeback

see press a button to climb on screen ? im using 360 controller on pc black ops no auto aim/aim assist supported in the game either.

definitely isnt console screenshot lol.

kind dumb picture because it's not inside but i can find indoor area's that look better.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zl3rte.jpg

lol i think black ops looks better than metro2033.

goodtobeback

360 controller on black ops pc doesnt support aim assist or rumble....no aim assist support is badass i love it, no rumble kinda sucks, but not a big deal.

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kind dumb picture because it's not inside but i can find indoor area's that look better.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zl3rte.jpg

lol i think black ops looks better than metro2033.

marq4porsche

black ops looks crisp, metro2033 looks all blurry, black ops looks better.

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[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] just mod the demo if you want, basically anything for the actual game will work fine on the demo.ferret-gamer

Alright, ill give it a shot. Its the "natural mod" that everyone likes, right? or is there something better now?

although i only have a gtx 460, so i dunno how much better i can go... was surprised it was even struggling to maintain 30fps on the crysis demo. I only got it a few days ago, but hopefully there is some room to OC (certainly runs alot cooler than my 8800gtx). I was a little let down after upgrading... Does crysis require an SLI setup to appreciate?

ill give it a shot tomorrow... its been a long time since ive tweaked my components... i had to relearn how to properly OC my cpu so i could make sure it could keep up with the GPU. My 8800gtx was a factory overclocked version, and i remember it being a nightmare even trying to squeeze an extra ounce of performance out of it.. i couldnt even OC a single fps out of that thing and have it be stable... so i have even less experience OCing a gpu.

but the gtx 460 does run RIDICULOUSLY cooler, my old 8800gtx was a serious hot ball of lava even when idling. I hope these graphics are as sexy as hermits have been telling me :P

kind dumb picture because it's not inside but i can find indoor area's that look better.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zl3rte.jpg

lol i think black ops looks better than metro2033.

goodtobeback

[QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

kind dumb picture because it's not inside but i can find indoor area's that look better.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zl3rte.jpg

lol i think black ops looks better than metro2033.

ferret-gamer

Really?

http://i53.tinypic.com/5cnadv.jpg

you can shoot the ice sickles in that level blast them into particles lol.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="goodtobeback"]

kind dumb picture because it's not inside but i can find indoor area's that look better.

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zl3rte.jpg

lol i think black ops looks better than metro2033.

goodtobeback

Really?

http://i53.tinypic.com/5cnadv.jpg

you can shoot the ice sickles in that level blast them into particles lol.