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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]Consolites need periodic reminders that their games are nothing special graphically, as the stigma is constantly building. And PC gamers need to realize that outside the fanboys, most console users don't care about the bestest graphics ever. If we did, we would be on a PC, no? ;)Was this thread really necessary?
dgsag
Consolites need periodic reminders that their games are nothing special graphically, as the stigma is constantly building.[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Was this thread really necessary?
AdobeArtist
And how many people can afford the PC that could run the game at those graphical settings you just displayed? Now I am not going to perpetrate the myth, "PC gaming costs $4000", but do NOT tell me that a $400 (console equivelant) PC could run that game, again, specifically Crysis, which is known to be a system hog. And I also specified going by those samples which show the game running at very high settings. I'm pretty sure a $1000 PC could run the game, but could it do so at those visual settings, and run it smoothly? I'm guessing the $1000 PC would not display Crysis at that quality your samples showed. How much would it cost to play Crysis looking like what you showed with a smooth frame rate of at least 30fps?
No, but Crysis is quite special. However, a $400 PC equivalent of console will always win. Plus, at the of the gen, you'll only have to spend half that to make a PC better than a PS4 and 720 etc. PC always wins and much cheaper than people think.[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
Wow. I seriously doubt even games on the PS4/Xbox720/Wii 2 will even look this good. Cows am cry.
Jade_Monkey
They think they will but they are wrong. Best case they look a little close to that, worst case they go the way of the Wii and don't improve graphics or gameplay.
You guys are so naive. Crysis in this state can run, on today's best hardware, the PS4/xbox720 will have hardware as powerful as the best rig 1 year from now if not better. Don't you remember when the 360 came out there were barely any 512MB GPU's? And when the PS3 came out there were almost no quad core processors?[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]Consolites need periodic reminders that their games are nothing special graphically, as the stigma is constantly building. And PC gamers need to realize that outside the fanboys, most console users don't care about the bestest graphics ever. If we did, we would be on a PC, no? ;) Nah, i think they care, why else would they be arguing all day about which system outputs the better graphics?Was this thread really necessary?
SpruceCaboose
[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
Wow. I seriously doubt even games on the PS4/Xbox720/Wii 2 will even look this good. Cows am cry.
munu9
They think they will but they are wrong. Best case they look a little close to that, worst case they go the way of the Wii and don't improve graphics or gameplay.
You guys are so naive. Crysis in this state can run, on today's best hardware, the PS4/xbox720 will have hardware as powerful as the best rig 1 year from now if not better. Don't you remember when the 360 came out there were barely any 512MB GPU's? And when the PS3 came out there were almost no quad core processors?Very true, console hardware has always been better than what you can get for PC at launch.
PC graphics are better now, but it took awhile for the parts to become affordable.
[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]
Was this thread really necessary?
Consolites need periodic reminders that their games are nothing special graphically, as the stigma is constantly building.And how many people can afford the PC that could run the game at those graphical settings you just displayed? Now I am not going to perpetrate the myth, "PC gaming costs $4000", but do NOT tell me that a $400 (console equivelant) PC could run that game, again, specifically Crysis, which is known to be a system hog. And I also specified going by those samples which show the game running at very high settings. I'm pretty sure a $1000 PC could run the game, but could it do so at those visual settings, and run it smoothly? I'm guessing the $1000 PC would not display Crysis at that quality your samples showed. How much would it cost to play Crysis looking like what you showed with a smooth frame rate of at least 30fps?
Are you kidding me? Video cards are cheap as hell.. Hardware is slowing down because Crysis over a year old is still graphics king..Threads like this do bring out insecure feelings out of some people like: "2000$ PC", "no gameplay", "who cares about graphics", "no need of this thread"..etc
I think this setting should be achievable with a below $1000PC , with 30fps, better resolution than the consoles and no AA, easily.
It is. Just throw in a GTX 275 with a cheap i7 and 4 GB of RAM, and you've got a $1000 PC that can pull it off.Threads like this do bring out insecure feelings out of some people like: "2000$ PC", "no gameplay", "who cares about graphics", "no need of this thread"..etc
I think this setting should be achievable with a below $1000PC , with 30fps, better resolution than the consoles and no AA, easily.
dk_2007
I'm just trying to show you that the gulf between Crysis and any potential competitors has only gotten wider since its release due to the availablity of more powerful hardware and user modifications: one of the key strengths of the PC as a gaming platform..So you're trying to tell us that crysis has good graphics??? I had no idea. I can't believe it took so long for someone to make a thread like this. Good job. :roll:
Huff
[QUOTE="dk_2007"]It is. Just throw in a GTX 275 with a cheap i7 and 4 GB of RAM, and you've got a $1000 PC that can pull it off. Funny how so many don't realise that. And that system would max out every other game easily. A $400 pc would max out most games besides a select few. Seriously, in the long run, pc + upgrades is sooo much cheapers than buying new yet outdated consoles every 5 years.Threads like this do bring out insecure feelings out of some people like: "2000$ PC", "no gameplay", "who cares about graphics", "no need of this thread"..etc
I think this setting should be achievable with a below $1000PC , with 30fps, better resolution than the consoles and no AA, easily.
dgsag
Amazing. Although I did see some jaggies in the garage area.SMR-Venomgoes to show those are actual gameplay shots
Is it possible to get your config file as even when using max DX10 settings my game does not look like that?mark_c_128well duh those arent ingame settings, theyre TOD settings with custom configs
800$, my pc, can run it like that at 1680x1050 with fairly consistent frames around 30.Not good enough for me to drop thousands on building a PC that could run that.
W1NGMAN-
damage control much? Read the reviews, GS, IGN, PC gamer etc.Sorry but that isn't Crysis..... I can take a Camaro, and pull parts out and putdifferent parts in, give it an overhaul, etc. but guess what, it's no longer a Camaro.
Now that that's out of the way, yes, those are pretty screens.... too bad Crysis is boring as ****, and only worth loading up to look at the pretty scenery. I'd take Halo, L4D, Fallout 3, Super Mario Galaxy almost any game over Crysis any day of the week.
Crysis = pretty graphics w/ good physics, nothing more.
whatisazerg
Not good enough for me to drop thousands on building a PC that could run that.
800$, my pc, can run it like that at 1680x1050 with fairly consistent frames around 30. I bet if you used Cuban's Custom settings files you would get better performance as well as have it look the same if not better.[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]
Wow. I seriously doubt even games on the PS4/Xbox720/Wii 2 will even look this good. Cows am cry.
munu9
They think they will but they are wrong. Best case they look a little close to that, worst case they go the way of the Wii and don't improve graphics or gameplay.
You guys are so naive. Crysis in this state can run, on today's best hardware, the PS4/xbox720 will have hardware as powerful as the best rig 1 year from now if not better. Don't you remember when the 360 came out there were barely any 512MB GPU's? And when the PS3 came out there were almost no quad core processors?If you saw my other post, you would have read me saying that i believe next gen will be the first where PCs out perform consoles from the start. I guess you havent noticed the revolution in gaming this gen. I dont think Sony/MS will release cutting edge tech next gen because of the Wii's success.
OT: I always found in funny when people mention things such as 33% cow 26% sheep etc. I've always wanted to know how people know these things.
You guys are so naive. Crysis in this state can run, on today's best hardware, the PS4/xbox720 will have hardware as powerful as the best rig 1 year from now if not better. Don't you remember when the 360 came out there were barely any 512MB GPU's? And when the PS3 came out there were almost no quad core processors?[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]
They think they will but they are wrong. Best case they look a little close to that, worst case they go the way of the Wii and don't improve graphics or gameplay.
RedFactionFan
Very true, console hardware has always been better than what you can get for PC at launch.
PC graphics are better now, but it took awhile for the parts to become affordable.
Not really, at the time of 360 launch you could have a PC with 2 7800GTX 512 SLI, OCed FX62 CPU, and 2-4gb or ram. The 360 can't even come close to these specs, nor the PS3. Even a single 7800GTX performs quite well today, often on part or beyond what the consoles are doing.You guys are so naive. Crysis in this state can run, on today's best hardware, the PS4/xbox720 will have hardware as powerful as the best rig 1 year from now if not better. Don't you remember when the 360 came out there were barely any 512MB GPU's? And when the PS3 came out there were almost no quad core processors?[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]
They think they will but they are wrong. Best case they look a little close to that, worst case they go the way of the Wii and don't improve graphics or gameplay.
shutdown_202
If you saw my other post, you would have read me saying that i believe next gen will be the first where PCs out perform consoles from the start. I guess you havent noticed the revolution in gaming this gen. I dont think Sony/MS will release cutting edge tech next gen because of the Wii's success.
OT: I always found in funny when people mention things such as 33% cow 26% sheep etc. I've always wanted to know how people know these things.
Consoles only out-perform PC at the start because they are stripped down to bare minimum allowing them to get cheaper parts thus more powerful parts. Consoles are basically purely designed to play games only, whereas the hardware on PC is complete so it can do other things too. PC hardware is waaaay more intelligent from the start of a consoles gen, so not technically as gifted.Try thousand, or less.[QUOTE="dgsag"][QUOTE="W1NGMAN-"]
Not good enough for me to drop thousands on building a PC that could run that.
W1NGMAN-
Between 1000-1999 = Not good enough
He meant 1000 or less.
Unreal Engine 4 will be better.
Neither of the two are king though, Nvidia are the graphic kings, only they have made the most realistic graphics to date. hell without Nvidia these devs like Epic & Crytek wouldnt be able to produce the things that they do, characters movements would seem unrealistic etc.
Very true, console hardware has always been better than what you can get for PC at launch.
PC graphics are better now, but it took awhile for the parts to become affordable.
muscleserge
It really depends on when you consider this generation started, when 360 launched or when all consoles were out.
If you go by the latter then at the time you could get hardware that would easily surpass consoles and would still do so today, the Nvidia 8 series launched a couple of days before the PS3 and we already had Conroe and DDR2 at that time.
It's mostly a matter of the hardware eventually becoming more affordable, not available.
wow fanboy much?Unreal Engine 4 will be better.
Neither of the two are king though, Nvidia are the graphic kings, only they have made the most realistic graphics to date.
Euroshinobi
[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]wow fanboy much? Not really just correcting others errors. thats if your comment was going towards the Nvidia comment, if it was going to the Unreal engine comment, than yes, i am pretty much a fanboy over it, i friggin love that engine its bootiful, crytek engine is great, but i dont like plain graphics that anyone has/can pull off the lighting everything is very similiar to how it would be in reality with crytek, unfortunately that is not the look i prefer. if i want that ill go outside and see it, i want my games to be stunning graphicaly yes, but still have a unique unrealness to them. basicaly if i go outside crap aint gonna be bloomy like it is with unreal engine lolUnreal Engine 4 will be better.
Neither of the two are king though, Nvidia are the graphic kings, only they have made the most realistic graphics to date.
GTR2addict
[QUOTE="muscleserge"]
Very true, console hardware has always been better than what you can get for PC at launch.
PC graphics are better now, but it took awhile for the parts to become affordable.
AnnoyedDragon
It really depends on when you consider this generation started, when 360 launched or when all consoles were out.
If you go by the latter then at the time you could get hardware that would easily surpass consoles and would still do so today, the Nvidia 8 series launched a couple of days before the PS3 and we already had Conroe and DDR2 at that time.
It's mostly a matter of the hardware eventually becoming more affordable, not available.
I think you quoted wrong.I think you quoted wrong.muscleserge
Yeah my bad, the person it is directed at should recognise the contents.
wow fanboy much? Not really just correcting others errors. thats if your comment was going towards the Nvidia comment, if it was going to the Unreal engine comment, than yes, i am pretty much a fanboy over it, i friggin love that engine its bootiful, crytek engine is great, but i dont like plain graphics that anyone has/can pull off the lighting everything is very similiar to how it would be in reality with crytek, unfortunately that is not the look i prefer. if i want that ill go outside and see it, i want my games to be stunning graphicaly yes, but still have a unique unrealness to them. basicaly if i go outside crap aint gonna be bloomy like it is with unreal engine lol i was talking about nvidia. they are not kings. nvidia has no competition to ATI in the sub 170$ range, and ATI's picture quality is superior[QUOTE="GTR2addict"][QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]
Unreal Engine 4 will be better.
Neither of the two are king though, Nvidia are the graphic kings, only they have made the most realistic graphics to date.
Euroshinobi
[QUOTE="Euroshinobi"]Not really just correcting others errors. thats if your comment was going towards the Nvidia comment, if it was going to the Unreal engine comment, than yes, i am pretty much a fanboy over it, i friggin love that engine its bootiful, crytek engine is great, but i dont like plain graphics that anyone has/can pull off the lighting everything is very similiar to how it would be in reality with crytek, unfortunately that is not the look i prefer. if i want that ill go outside and see it, i want my games to be stunning graphicaly yes, but still have a unique unrealness to them. basicaly if i go outside crap aint gonna be bloomy like it is with unreal engine lol i was talking about nvidia. they are not kings. nvidia has no competition to ATI in the sub 170$ range, and ATI's picture quality is superior yea suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure thats exactly why they are the leader right now thats exactly why all the developers are using Nvidia saying it makes their work much easier, Nvidia has produced the most realistic character model to date and that was all the way back in 07 !!!, Ati has not[QUOTE="GTR2addict"] wow fanboy much?GTR2addict
I thought the asian soldier was real at fist glance :p
Anyways, some people are saying that when console dudes are comparing their games graphicly they need a slap in the face with PC graphics...well I think everyone knows/should know that the better graphics are on the PC. But, not many really care, they should just rename this board to X360 v. PS3 IMO.
You guys are so naive. Crysis in this state can run, on today's best hardware, the PS4/xbox720 will have hardware as powerful as the best rig 1 year from now if not better. Don't you remember when the 360 came out there were barely any 512MB GPU's? And when the PS3 came out there were almost no quad core processors?[QUOTE="munu9"][QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]
They think they will but they are wrong. Best case they look a little close to that, worst case they go the way of the Wii and don't improve graphics or gameplay.
RedFactionFan
Very true, console hardware has always been better than what you can get for PC at launch.
PC graphics are better now, but it took awhile for the parts to become affordable.
Geforce 8800 GTX was released a few days ahead of PS3.Please Log In to post.
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