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#151 skrat_01
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Heres a few problems i have with crysis/warhead...

1. Weapon customization is never needed in gameplay beyond adding a scope to weapons you pick up. The rest are worthless, i never used anything besides adding a scope.

2. Destructable environs not all that destructable. The majority of the items in crysis arent destructable at all, besides the buildings put together with sheet metal. also, the trees had some of the crappiest physics alive when shot down.

3. Suit powers not all that helpful. When i played, the only suit power i felt compelled to use was the cloaking ability. id use strength sometimes to jump on a building or whatever, but cloaking was usually the only helpful power there was there.

4. "open ended" not all that open. Sure, you could go into a camp of enemies from multiple sides, but you still had to do the objectives in a linear order, and going in from different ways didnt do anything because you still ended up fighting everyone in the area anyways.

5. the aliens in both games were stupid, enough said there.

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1. You didnt use the attachments.

That is *your fault*.

You as the player failed to make use of what the developer had given you. That isn't the developer at faults, its your own for ignoring the weapon modifications. Personally I used all the modifications - the only thing I thought was not terribly useful was the dart attachment, as if you had a silencer and ammo it was redundant.

In a sandbox environment its up to the player.

2. The environment is one of the most destructible, and largest physics driven destructible environment in a game to date.

Tree physics was fine, the shanty shack (they are supposed to be made of bits of timber and sheets of metal) physics were fine (mind you they were filled with objects in their interiors too, and larger structures were not destructible due to the designers decisions. If they wanted destroyable hit locations i.e Battlefield Bad Company - they could have done it, If they wanted physics destruction, they could have done it.

Its all doable in the engine - Crysis Sandbox makes that even more apparent, its simply the designers choice not to allow the player to physically destroy *every man made structure in the game*.

3. Again its your own fault you didn't use the other suit powers. I found myself mixing between all modes depending on the circumstances, and the game environment catered to it.

Playing on Delta difficulty meant you had to make more intelligent use of suit powers. The only parts of the game where suit use was limited was the later linear sections.

Again its a matter of you as the player not taking advantage of what the developers have given you.

4. The game has large open environments in linear structure. The game doesn't try to be anything else.

The reality is Crysis offers more freedom of approach than open world games such as Far Cry 2 and GTA IV.

5. Well they weren't Aliens in Far Cry. They were mutants, though the implementation of the Aliens in Crysis was worse than Far Cry... as Crytek eliminated the open level design, and the Aliens weren't fun to fight (nor were the Trigens in Far Cry).

Crysis Warhead fixed the issue with a.i and level design improvements, which were far beyond Crysis's offering. Anyway its almost unanimous that the Alien sections in Crysis were not nearly as good as the rest of the game. Its a pity as there was loads of potential.

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#152 videogameblow
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="videogameblow"]crytek have excellent texture artist and modelers but they just dont seem that great at level design. the tree's are modeled great, but i mean just the structure of the levels isnt great, i think with better mappers could of shown off the engine alot more.

No Crytek have some of the best level designers out there, in singleplayer respects. They put many developers with more experience to shame quite frankly. Now woobawooba is this account no. 1032?

dude i could of designed a way better more detailed island. they have very little imagination. all they did was copy real life stuff.
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#153 videogameblow
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="videogameblow"]crytek have excellent texture artist and modelers but they just dont seem that great at level design. the tree's are modeled great, but i mean just the structure of the levels isnt great, i think with better mappers could of shown off the engine alot more.

No Crytek have some of the best level designers out there, in singleplayer respects. They put many developers with more experience to shame quite frankly. Now woobawooba is this account no. 1032?

http://i39.tinypic.com/2pphjf6.jpg ok which one of these crysis warhead single player levels in the picture is amazing?
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#154 Johnny-n-Roger
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Crysis is Far Cry 2 with the addition ofa half decent story anda fewgameplay elements. Besides visual appeal, the game is nowhere near being AAA material.

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#155 videogameblow
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radar also ruined crysis you know how much better the game would of been without a noob radar?
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#156 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

You realize that games like World in Conflict and Stalker still look better than anything else on consoles too, right?

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Crysis looks good, but the game itself sucks hard, mp is BORING

How the hell is stalker better looking then games like killzone 2, gears 2, and re5?
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#157 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="videogameblow"]crytek have excellent texture artist and modelers but they just dont seem that great at level design. the tree's are modeled great, but i mean just the structure of the levels isnt great, i think with better mappers could of shown off the engine alot more.videogameblow
No Crytek have some of the best level designers out there, in singleplayer respects. They put many developers with more experience to shame quite frankly. Now woobawooba is this account no. 1032?

http://i39.tinypic.com/2pphjf6.jpg ok which one of these crysis warhead single player levels in the picture is amazing?

The one with the good visuals, being that's the only thing the game has to offer.
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#158 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="p2250"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

You realize that games like World in Conflict and Stalker still look better than anything else on consoles too, right?

Crysis looks good, but the game itself sucks hard, mp is BORING

How the hell is stalker better looking then games like killzone 2, gears 2, and re5?

You quoted the wrong post n00b saibot.
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#159 videogameblow
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[QUOTE="p2250"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

You realize that games like World in Conflict and Stalker still look better than anything else on consoles too, right?

SAGE_OF_FIRE
Crysis looks good, but the game itself sucks hard, mp is BORING

How the hell is stalker better looking then games like killzone 2, gears 2, and re5?

direct x 10? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcFz0ilsV3w
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="p2250"] Crysis looks good, but the game itself sucks hard, mp is BORINGJohnny-n-Roger
How the hell is stalker better looking then games like killzone 2, gears 2, and re5?

You quoted the wrong post n00b saibot.

I didn't bother looking for your other post
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#161 jhuff1
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Crysis is awesome...I am playing it for the first time now. However, I would not say it makes some of the other top tier FPS on console "ruined." I think KZ 2 is awesome and I think many would also argue for Gears, COD and Halo rank up there. That being said, Crysis is beautiful and to me is very unique and fun to play. You may argue that Crysis is better but you can do so without taking anything away from the others. I would reccomend all the Crysis haters play the game for an extended period of time before commenting...you may be quite impressed
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#162 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="p2250"][QUOTE="organic_machine"]

You realize that games like World in Conflict and Stalker still look better than anything else on consoles too, right?

SAGE_OF_FIRE

Crysis looks good, but the game itself sucks hard, mp is BORING

How the hell is stalker better looking then games like killzone 2, gears 2, and re5?

not my screens, but here:

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[QUOTE="videogameblow"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="p2250"] Crysis looks good, but the game itself sucks hard, mp is BORING

How the hell is stalker better looking then games like killzone 2, gears 2, and re5?

direct x 10? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcFz0ilsV3w

so you mean like the effects are what make the game look good, not the overall look?
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#164 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="p2250"] Crysis looks good, but the game itself sucks hard, mp is BORINGAAllxxjjnn
How the hell is stalker better looking then games like killzone 2, gears 2, and re5?

Direct X 10 = different shades of brown = meh. You lose.
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#165 jhuff1
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you guys got me wanting to play STALKER... But too many games, I'll just have to play Crysis for now. Also, I have noticed that Fallout 3 which I am playing on PC right now is also beautiful. I don't know if it because it requires less power to crank out a clear high res picture but it is very impressive graphically. I definitely can tell the difference between PC and console on this game.
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#166 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="videogameblow"]No Crytek have some of the best level designers out there, in singleplayer respects. They put many developers with more experience to shame quite frankly. Now woobawooba is this account no. 1032?videogameblow
http://i39.tinypic.com/2pphjf6.jpg ok which one of these crysis warhead single player levels in the picture is amazing?

Why Amazing?

dude i could of designed a way better more detailed island.

they have very little imagination.

all they did was copy real life stuff.videogameblow

No you couldn't have designed better levels.

It keeps with the real world context.

Because you know, its set in the real world....

Anyway, yes a frozen aircraft carrier with its crew still in their last moments in uninmaginative. Even from a design perspective when you break down levels they are imaginative in design. The train 'rails' mission especially.

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Anyway how long until this account is banned and you create another?

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#167 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="videogameblow"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]No Crytek have some of the best level designers out there, in singleplayer respects. They put many developers with more experience to shame quite frankly. Now woobawooba is this account no. 1032?skrat_01
http://i39.tinypic.com/2pphjf6.jpg ok which one of these crysis warhead single player levels in the picture is amazing?

Why Amazing?

You're right. There's nothing amazing about a generic shooter.
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I dont get it, whenever anybody posts screens of stalker it looks good but whenever I check gameplay vids it looks like this ...

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Is it mods or something?

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#169 skrat_01
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[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="videogameblow"] http://i39.tinypic.com/2pphjf6.jpg ok which one of these crysis warhead single player levels in the picture is amazing?Johnny-n-Roger
Why Amazing?

You're right. There's nothing amazing about a generic shooter.

genric reply is generic?

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I dont get it, whenever anybody posts screens of stalker it looks good but whenever I check gameplay vids it looks like this ..Is it mods or something?

SAGE_OF_FIRE
Maybe because thats not max settings?
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#171 AnnoyedDragon
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Maybe you're fabricating statements that were never made. For some reason it bothers you that there are those who didn't really enjoy the game all that much.Johnny-n-Roger

Fabricating? You only have to read through this thread, there are plenty of examples, I've responded to several of them.

In regard to your second accusation, it bothers me so many people seem reluctant/incapable of justifying their criticisms. Yet that doesn't seem to deter them from making 'mater of fact' statements.

If people want to shut me up they only need to explain why they accuse Crysis of being something, it shouldn't be a problem if it is justified. No "oh it's just my opinion" cop-outs right after saying "Crysis IS X", a explanation for their criticism that others can relate to.

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#172 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]

I dont get it, whenever anybody posts screens of stalker it looks good but whenever I check gameplay vids it looks like this ...

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Is it mods or something?

I have better technology than that in my i-phone. I'm sure there's an app for that.
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#173 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]

I dont get it, whenever anybody posts screens of stalker it looks good but whenever I check gameplay vids it looks like this ..Is it mods or something?

AAllxxjjnn
Maybe because thats not max settings?

But even in the GT review it looks like that.
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#174 Johnny-n-Roger
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[QUOTE="Johnny-n-Roger"]Maybe you're fabricating statements that were never made. For some reason it bothers you that there are those who didn't really enjoy the game all that much.AnnoyedDragon

Fabricating? You only have to read through this thread, there are plenty of examples, I've responded to several of them.

In regard to your second accusation, it bothers me so many people seem reluctant/incapable of justifying their criticisms. Yet that doesn't seem to deter them from making 'mater of fact' statements.

If people want to shut me up they only need to explain why they accuse Crysis of being something, it shouldn't be a problem if it is justified. No "oh it's just my opinion" cop-outs right after saying "Crysis IS X", a explanation for their criticism that others can relate to.

OMG, the trees move when you shoot near them. AAA lets not look any further.
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#175 Marka1700
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Nope, Don't agree with you TC. I have played cyrsis on high, yest it is mindblowing and yes it is the graphics king (Technical). But I still boot up game like Valkyrie Profile 2, GOW2, Mario Galaxy ect and still think they look great.
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Nope, Don't agree with you TC. I have played cyrsis on high, yest it is mindblowing and yes it is the graphics king (Technical). But I still boot up game like Valkyrie Profile 2, GOW2, Mario Galaxy ect and still think they look great.Marka1700
I play Kung Fu for the NES and think the game has serious John Woo qualities.
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#177 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"]

I dont get it, whenever anybody posts screens of stalker it looks good but whenever I check gameplay vids it looks like this ..Is it mods or something?

SAGE_OF_FIRE
Maybe because thats not max settings?

But even in the GT review it looks like that.

GT has pretty terrible computers. Their Warhead review is using like medium settings.
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#178 deactivated-58b6232955e4a
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="SAGE_OF_FIRE"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"] Maybe because thats not max settings?

But even in the GT review it looks like that.

GT has pretty terrible computers. Their Warhead review is using like medium settings.

Well I guess that explains alot then :P
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#179 AnnoyedDragon
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OMG, the trees move when you shoot near them. AAA lets not look any further.Johnny-n-Roger

Giving someone what you think they want to hear simply shows you cannot be bothered to give me a proper response :roll:

It's too late on my end to get into a lengthy debate anyway, but sooner or later I will get one of you people to give me a proper answer.

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#180 videogameblow
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crysis really did ruin this generation it's a buggy piece of crap. my crysis warhead keeps crashing now dude, i will be playing and my screen just goes blank using my 8800 gt 512 mb or 8600 gts 256 mb. im gonna try some really old drivers from nvidia maybe fix it, my pc has no problems any other games
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#181 videogameblow
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quick google search shows other people have having crysis all the sudden the video card losing signal screen goes blank. it's poorly coded.