Crysis stinks! Yes I said it

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]Except that the gameplay is incredibly deep with thousands of different ways to play open enviroment levels ultimately resulting in a unique experience every time with adequate AI.Vandalvideo

Also opinion. What someone finds incredibly deep with thousands of ways to play open ended another could find it over complicated, over bearing, and to end all just be too much at once.

*Looks at Ratchet and Clank Review* :evil:

Did I say it wasn't deep? I said what some finds incredibly deep could find it overly complicated. That doesn't negate the fact that it is deep :P

Besides whos to say what deep is? I may want MMORPG deep and I'm not gonna find that in a FPS. Madden is an overly deep game yet tons of people on these boards label it as simplistic.

There are tons of people that see the FPS genre as a whole as something that isn't deep at all (I don't I love it) but are you gonna say that all these people are wrong?

Sure it may not come down to the cliche *Oh great another generic cookie cutter FPS* comment but the point still remains.

Did I say it wasn't deep? I said what some finds incredibly deep could find it overly complicated. That doesn't negate the fact that it is deep :PBesides whos to say what deep is? I may want MMORPG deep and I'm not gonna find that in a FPS. Madden is an overly deep game yet tons of people on these boards label it as simplistic.Blackbond

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[QUOTE="subrosian"]Actually I don't like Crysis at all either. PC gamers who are hyping this game (and console gamers who are pretending this is the "definitive PC game") frustrate me to no end. I understand at least why some PC gamers are excited (stunning graphics, decent variety of ways to play through the game) but I wasn't particularly impressed.PullTheTricker

I share the same opinion as a PC gamer. Crysis is most overrated game of this year. The shooting in Call of Duty 4 for PC is muchmore satisfying. UT2k4 is still a better game despite the outdated graphics. I was not impressed by the demo, and neither did I enjoy it at all.

And for those that think Crysis is the best PC game of all time... Wrong!Half-Life 2 isn't going to be dethroned anytime soon. The only day that will happen is the day, Gabe Newell from Valve will announce aHalf-Life 3.

The day I played Crysis,was the day I started respecting Nintendo more.

what exactly did you find wrong with crysis? just saying you didnt enjoy a game is easy

i didnt enjoy playing mgs3. and after playing it. i started respecting Mac more.

thats about the extent of sence your comments made

Well I figured people would understand... but what I'm actually trying to say is. I don't give a damn about fancy colours and shiny graphics. If a game is not enjoyable gameplay wise, I'm simply not interested. As Subrosian pointed out. SW is brainwashed by this game that they think Crysis represents PC gaming as a whole. And I personally hate that.

I will still be too busy playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R to even care about Crysis. Not all PC gamers share the same taste for games.

Well I figured people would understand... but what I'm actually trying to say is. I don't give a damn about fancy colours and shiny graphics. If a game is not enjoyable gameplay wise, I'm simply not interested. As Subrosian pointed out. SW is brainwashed by this game that they think Crysis represents PC gaming as a whole. And I personally hate that.

I will still be too busy playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R to even care about Crysis. Not all PC gamers share the same taste for games.

PullTheTricker

Pretty much everybody praising the game,whether its the people who played the demo or critics, are talking about the game play. How can you not like this sandbox FPS? So many stuff you can do, the game play is really good. Graphics are a huge plus.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Did I say it wasn't deep? I said what some finds incredibly deep could find it overly complicated. That doesn't negate the fact that it is deep :PBesides whos to say what deep is? I may want MMORPG deep and I'm not gonna find that in a FPS. Madden is an overly deep game yet tons of people on these boards label it as simplistic.Vandalvideo

Where are my Brothers in Arms Commands? My Rainbow Six Mission Planner? Complicated is no different from the term deep. Like I said what one person finds as a deep and engaging experience another might not. Some people desire more some people desire less. Hence like I said about Madden. Its one of the deepest games out there yet by a majority of people it is viewed as nothing but a casual game that anyone can play.

Where are my Brothers in Arms Commands? My Rainbow Six Mission Planner? Complicated is no different from the term deep. Like I said what one person finds as a deep and engaging experience another might not. Some people desire more some people desire less. Hence like I said about Madden. Its one of the deepest games out there yet by a majority of people it is viewed as nothing but a casual game that anyone can play.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="froidnite"]

Having discussions!=Creating discussions.

I am having a discussion about JRPG's and fighters with you on another thread (where you were imposing your opinion on everyone) doesn't mean I care about them either.....you of all people should've known this.

froidnite

Having discussions =/= creating a discusssion. This is yet again another one of your opinions. Someone else could create and discussion and one could join in thus having =/= creating.

And enough of your psycho babble. This isn't about JRPG's and Fighters, stay on the topic of Crysis.

Too bad we aren't dealing with math. Accept his post and deal with it. Nobody is trolling but you.

I'll accept it if it was merely a opinion....but if you read his OP, he is bashing all hermits. Did anyone not accept Subrosian not finding Crysis interesting.....learn the difference b/w stupidity and opinion before posting

Stupid eh? So tell me. What's the difference between generally being stupid and or being a fakeboy? You can have a stupid opinion as well as having a smart opinion. An opinion is just that an opinion. Him bashing all hermits is his opinion. It doesn't make Crysis bad or hermits bad in anyone elses mind but his own and whoever else agrees with him no matter how narrow minded his opinion may be.

I'm in need of attention :cry:Nin360

That's not mine or anyone else's problem.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Where are my Brothers in Arms Commands? My Rainbow Six Mission Planner? Complicated is no different from the term deep. Like I said what one person finds as a deep and engaging experience another might not. Some people desire more some people desire less. Hence like I said about Madden. Its one of the deepest games out there yet by a majority of people it is viewed as nothing but a casual game that anyone can play.Vandalvideo

In the instance you used. Yet there are many instances the word/term can be used it. Like I said. Some people may not find it deep. You can't change the way people think. If someone thinks its not deep than its not deep. Some people don't even think the FPS genre as a whole is deep.

[QUOTE="Nin360"]I'm in need of attention :cry:GoodkupoBan

That's not mine or anyone else's problem.

Please tell me he did not say he is in need of attention lol

[QUOTE="PullTheTricker"][QUOTE="shadow_hosi"][QUOTE="PullTheTricker"]

[QUOTE="subrosian"]Actually I don't like Crysis at all either. PC gamers who are hyping this game (and console gamers who are pretending this is the "definitive PC game") frustrate me to no end. I understand at least why some PC gamers are excited (stunning graphics, decent variety of ways to play through the game) but I wasn't particularly impressed.froidnite

I share the same opinion as a PC gamer. Crysis is most overrated game of this year. The shooting in Call of Duty 4 for PC is muchmore satisfying. UT2k4 is still a better game despite the outdated graphics. I was not impressed by the demo, and neither did I enjoy it at all.

And for those that think Crysis is the best PC game of all time... Wrong!Half-Life 2 isn't going to be dethroned anytime soon. The only day that will happen is the day, Gabe Newell from Valve will announce aHalf-Life 3.

The day I played Crysis,was the day I started respecting Nintendo more.

what exactly did you find wrong with crysis? just saying you didnt enjoy a game is easy

i didnt enjoy playing mgs3. and after playing it. i started respecting Mac more.

thats about the extent of sence your comments made

Well I figured people would understand... but what I'm actually trying to say is. I don't give a damn about fancy colours and shiny graphics. If a game is not enjoyable gameplay wise, I'm simply not interested. As Subrosian pointed out. SW is brainwashed by this game that they think Crysis represents PC gaming as a whole. And I personally hate that.

I will still be too busy playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R to even care about Crysis. Not all PC gamers share the same taste for games.

Despite PC Gamers' odd reviews from time to time that have me scratching my head, I do tend to agree with them most of the time depending on the reviewer. I would say though, a 98% is fairly concrete as they are pretty much sticking their neck out on this one. With Hellgate, they scored it an 89%, and if it was bug free it would deserve it, but if you notice, the 89% negates any kind of Editor's Choice, which tells me they were definately being safe. With Crysis, they are pretty confident about how much it kicks arse. Even Jason Ocampo here at GS was off his rocker in last week's show about the game.

In the instance you used. Yet there are many instances the word/term can be used it. Like I said. Some people may not find it deep. You can't change the way people think. If someone thinks its not deep than its not deep. Some people don't even think the FPS genre as a whole is deep.Blackbond

Stupid eh? So tell me. What's the difference between generally being stupid and or being a fakeboy? You can have a stupid opinion as well as having a smart opinion. An opinion is just that an opinion. Him bashing all hermits is his opinion. It doesn't make Crysis bad or hermits bad in anyone elses mind but his own and whoever else agrees with him no matter how narrow minded his opinion may be.

Blackbond

I think it is funny how people say a game stinks before the game even releases. It is as if a demo is the entire game. I mean the game could be phenomenal but they will say it stinks based on the first 15 minutes of the game.

Crytek says hey lets give gamers more freedom, lets put them in an environment with near complete freedom that mimicks the real world and design AI to react to all the dynamics of the game and lets push the graphics beyond the boundaries to immerse the players even more and hey lets add tons of vehicles and allow them to modify their weapons. And now lets make their character non static and allow them to play the game the way they want to ... stealth or brute force or what ever they see fit...

But Crysis stinks so I suppose Crytek failed...well I think not and most will argue you. What is gonna happen is FPS fans, not halo or KZ2 or UT or HL fanboys but FPS fans from all systems will tell you that Crysis is a great FPS.

I say play the retail version beat it on at least normal and then come back and tell us what you didn't like and then it will be relevant. Who knows most might even agree with you about any relevant complaints that you might have.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Stupid eh? So tell me. What's the difference between generally being stupid and or being a fakeboy? You can have a stupid opinion as well as having a smart opinion. An opinion is just that an opinion. Him bashing all hermits is his opinion. It doesn't make Crysis bad or hermits bad in anyone elses mind but his own and whoever else agrees with him no matter how narrow minded his opinion may be.

froidnite

My man you are welcome. If you need anything else just let me know. I got you dawg 8)

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]In the instance you used. Yet there are many instances the word/term can be used it. Like I said. Some people may not find it deep. You can't change the way people think. If someone thinks its not deep than its not deep. Some people don't even think the FPS genre as a whole is deep.Vandalvideo

And what you find deep others may find shallow. Deep for a FPS doesn't mean deep in general as people do view the FPS genre as a whole as not deep.

In my opinion Chess is deep. Crysis pales in comparison.

[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Stupid eh? So tell me. What's the difference between generally being stupid and or being a fakeboy? You can have a stupid opinion as well as having a smart opinion. An opinion is just that an opinion. Him bashing all hermits is his opinion. It doesn't make Crysis bad or hermits bad in anyone elses mind but his own and whoever else agrees with him no matter how narrow minded his opinion may be.

Blackbond

My man you are welcome. If you need anything else just let me know. I got you dawg 8)

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]In the instance you used. Yet there are many instances the word/term can be used it. Like I said. Some people may not find it deep. You can't change the way people think. If someone thinks its not deep than its not deep. Some people don't even think the FPS genre as a whole is deep.Blackbond

And what you find deep others may find shallow. Deep for a FPS doesn't mean deep in general as people do view the FPS genre as a whole as not deep.

In my opinion Chess is deep. Crysis pales in comparison.

Both are deep. The only difference, besides the actual depths of each, is that chess forces you to also be deep in order to be any good.

In Crysis, you can be as close-minded and obtuse as you want and still play, and presumably have fun. You'll just think it's another Far Cry, that's all, but you can still play.

And what you find deep others may find shallow. Deep for a FPS doesn't mean deep in general as people do view the FPS genre as a whole as not deep.In my opinion Chess is deep. Crysis pales in comparison.Blackbond

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]And what you find deep others may find shallow. Deep for a FPS doesn't mean deep in general as people do view the FPS genre as a whole as not deep.In my opinion Chess is deep. Crysis pales in comparison.Vandalvideo

all games have thousands of ways they can be played, but when your shooting at the same people and going after the same target locations the replay value quickly wears thin.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]And what you find deep others may find shallow. Deep for a FPS doesn't mean deep in general as people do view the FPS genre as a whole as not deep.In my opinion Chess is deep. Crysis pales in comparison.marklarmer

all games have thousands of ways they can be played, but when your shooting at the same people and going after the same target locations the replay value quickly wears thin.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Stupid eh? So tell me. What's the difference between generally being stupid and or being a fakeboy? You can have a stupid opinion as well as having a smart opinion. An opinion is just that an opinion. Him bashing all hermits is his opinion. It doesn't make Crysis bad or hermits bad in anyone elses mind but his own and whoever else agrees with him no matter how narrow minded his opinion may be.

froidnite

My man you are welcome. If you need anything else just let me know. I got you dawg 8)

You can contact me for many other SW related issues as well :P

Don't be shy man let it out.

[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Stupid eh? So tell me. What's the difference between generally being stupid and or being a fakeboy? You can have a stupid opinion as well as having a smart opinion. An opinion is just that an opinion. Him bashing all hermits is his opinion. It doesn't make Crysis bad or hermits bad in anyone elses mind but his own and whoever else agrees with him no matter how narrow minded his opinion may be.

froidnite

My man you are welcome. If you need anything else just let me know. I got you dawg 8)

lol, as they say, when in doubt take advise from the most experienced :P (j/k)

[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Stupid eh? So tell me. What's the difference between generally being stupid and or being a fakeboy? You can have a stupid opinion as well as having a smart opinion. An opinion is just that an opinion. Him bashing all hermits is his opinion. It doesn't make Crysis bad or hermits bad in anyone elses mind but his own and whoever else agrees with him no matter how narrow minded his opinion may be.

Blackbond

My man you are welcome. If you need anything else just let me know. I got you dawg 8)

You can contact me for many other SW related issues as well :P

Don't be shy man let it out.

PS: It's just a joke....in case you didn't already know that by the smileys at the end of all sentences8)

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]And what you find deep others may find shallow. Deep for a FPS doesn't mean deep in general as people do view the FPS genre as a whole as not deep.In my opinion Chess is deep. Crysis pales in comparison.Vandalvideo

all games have thousands of ways they can be played, but when your shooting at the same people and going after the same target locations the replay value quickly wears thin.

Pretty much, gotta love setting up C4 in a building then punching in a whole to get the NK attention, then watching them investigate looking all nervous lol, and finally boom! All games dont have as much replayability as I see Crysis having due to the sandbox editor mainly

[QUOTE="Nin360"] The only reason why this game has hype is because of the graphics. The A.I. is totally stupid. The gameplay is slow and the guns suck. I give it a 8 at best. Its your average shooter just prettier then most. Big freaking deal! Hermits just need a game to hype.elbow2k

Think about this.

We get more AAAE and AAE games, not to mention just AAA and AA, than any other gaming platform around.

Why in Gods name, would we need to hype a game, when in two weeks we will have another AAA or AA?

lol @ we need to hype games. Here's a question for you sheep, what game are you gonna hype after SSMB comes out? The next Zelda? Any good third party games worth hyping coming out for the Wii?

Didn't think so.

Take out RTS games and expansion packs and the PC has no AAAEs over the last year. Or actually I think all the exclusive AAAs are expansion packs that came out this year.

Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.Vandalvideo

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]And what you find deep others may find shallow. Deep for a FPS doesn't mean deep in general as people do view the FPS genre as a whole as not deep.In my opinion Chess is deep. Crysis pales in comparison.Vandalvideo

all games have thousands of ways they can be played, but when your shooting at the same people and going after the same target locations the replay value quickly wears thin.

I read a preview of Crysis before the demo came out from somewhere where the guy was actually worried about the open-endedness of the game. He was worried that a lot of people wouldn't like Crysis because it's TOO open-ended. It leaves you free to do what you want, when you want to do it, and he argued that people simply aren't used to that at all because they prefer to have a distinct path, or a specific way to go.

He said just being dropped on a large island was too indirect a way to play for too many gamers who aren't used to that form of play. He compared it to Oblivion and Morrowind, and how a lot of people hated the open-ended aspects of those games because they didn't know what to do or where to go, and they didn't know what they *could* do, so they just did the same things over and over and bored themselves. It's so obvious now in hindsight how right he was (this was also before the quest arrow in Bioshock). Wish I could find that article.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.hydrophoboe

Nobody who ever says that Crysis isn't different from Far Cry ever bothers explaining themselves or forming a real argument. I think I've seen maybe one person try to do that. It's really sad. I'd hate to be as close-minded as to think that a game in which you have so many more options than Far Cry at your disposal is the same thing. That must suck.

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[QUOTE="Nin360"] The only reason why this game has hype is because of the graphics. The A.I. is totally stupid. The gameplay is slow and the guns suck. I give it a 8 at best. Its your average shooter just prettier then most. Big freaking deal! Hermits just need a game to hype.svp0123

Think about this.

We get more AAAE and AAE games, not to mention just AAA and AA, than any other gaming platform around.

Why in Gods name, would we need to hype a game, when in two weeks we will have another AAA or AA?

lol @ we need to hype games. Here's a question for you sheep, what game are you gonna hype after SSMB comes out? The next Zelda? Any good third party games worth hyping coming out for the Wii?

Didn't think so.

Take out RTS games and expansion packs and the PC has no AAAEs over the last year. Or actually I think all the exclusive AAAs are expansion packs that came out this year.

Take out.....well nothing.....and PS3 doesn't have any AAAE since launch

Take out partygames(?) and platformers and Wii doesn't have any AAAE since launch.

See I can play that game too.

The only reason why this game has hype is because of the graphics. The A.I. is totally stupid. The gameplay is slow and the guns suck. I give it a 8 at best. Its your average shooter just prettier then most. Big freaking deal! Hermits just need a game to hype.Nin360

wow no... ai is great.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.hydrophoboe

Actually I don't like Crysis at all either. PC gamers who are hyping this game (and console gamers who are pretending this is the "definitive PC game") frustrate me to no end. I understand at least why some PC gamers are excited (stunning graphics, decent variety of ways to play through the game) but I wasn't particularly impressed.subrosian

decent variety? an entire island is a little bit more than decent. the ai is great. physics are great as well.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.hydrophoboe

How does the nano suit and physics make for the same game play as Far Cry? Please explain I dont get it.

There's nothing wrong with disliking Crysis. Frankly, the PC gamers who do dislike it need to come out before the review, simply so System Wars can understand - not all people who play PC games enjoy Crysis - I play console, handheld, and PC games, I have to say, with both the beta and the demo, I was not impressed. subrosian

Actually, I'm not particularly all thumbs for Crysis. I feel that a remake of Farcry seems too much of a copout to garner any worthy praise in the originality department.

But it's pretty bad ass. Not a genre breaking kind of bad ass. But bad-ass nonetheless.

Crysis is beautiful that's for sure. But I thought the demo was pretty good. Just not as good as CoD4.Nova_Mongoose

It's really sad. I'd hate to be as close-minded as to think that a game in which you have so many more options than Far Cry at your disposal is the same thing. That must suck. Zeliard9

[QUOTE="hydrophoboe"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.bignice12

How does the nano suit and physics make for the same game play as Far Cry? Please explain I dont get it.

Don't bother, people are too simplistic. They see an open island level and a similar objectives system and they think that = Far Cry, ignoring literally every other aspect of both games.

98% from PCgamer says you are wrongfroidnite

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]It's really sad. I'd hate to be as close-minded as to think that a game in which you have so many more options than Far Cry at your disposal is the same thing. That must suck. hydrophoboe

How in the world is that a double standard? What does what I wrote even have to do with what you wrote? Did I ever call Crysis revolutionary? No. I'm disputing that it's the same as Far Cry. Respond to my post or don't respond at all. Strawmans are the easy way out.

How in the world is that a double standard? Zeliard9

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]How in the world is that a double standard? hydrophoboe

Uh, no. The burden of proof is on you. You're the one making the claim that it's like Far Cry, and now you're backing off when I ask you to explain yourself. Highly unsurprising.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]How in the world is that a double standard? hydrophoboe

Thanks for the offer dude.....but no....I mean I am usually good at everything except being stupid;)

PS: It's just a joke....in case you didn't already know that by the smileys at the end of all sentences8)

froidnite

Don't worry its all good man. I respect you guys as posters.

[QUOTE="froidnite"]

Thanks for the offer dude.....but no....I mean I am usually good at everything except being stupid;)

PS: It's just a joke....in case you didn't already know that by the smileys at the end of all sentences8)

Blackbond

Don't worry its all good man. I respect you guys as posters.

[QUOTE="hydrophoboe"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.froidnite

So a Review aka an opinion says he's wrong?

[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="hydrophoboe"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.Blackbond

So a Review aka an opinion says he's wrong?

Besides for me PCgamer opinion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>random guy's opinion

[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="hydrophoboe"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] Except that you don't have to shoot at the guy in Crysis. There are LITEREALLY thousandso f ways to kill people.froidnite

So a Review aka an opinion says he's wrong?

Besides for me PCgamer opinion>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>random guy's opinion

An opinion is an opinion but in this case I think we can all make the proper notion. PC Gamer > This guy lol