Crytek CEO: Console gamers 'don't respect development'

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#1 Episode_Eve
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A conviently 'working' link for you unappreciative consolites!

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Cervat Yerli, CEO of Crytek, has told OXM that:

"I simplified it for our guys by saying there is one difference between the PC gamer and console gamer. I said the single most important difference is a PC gamer forgives you for about a minute. A console gamer gives you two seconds. It sucks or it fails and you're either the top or a flop. They don't respect any value you put into your development, either it works or it doesn't work."

He goes on to explain how this pressure has ultimately made Crysis 2 a better game.

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Personally, I'm a console gamer primarily and I totally respect and appreciate the work devs put into games! I think that console gamers are generally less patient though lol. On the other hand, his conception of console gamers has improved the quality of this game :P. What do you think?

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#2 Santesyu
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Thats loser talk.. ;3

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While i'm sure many who post here do, i'm sure the majority of console owners don't. He's right with what he says.

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#4 Hahadouken
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Wow way to pigeonhole "CONSOLE GAMERS". I have consoles AND a PC, I hope this doesn't make my head asplode. Crytek needs to shut up right about now and let their work speak for itself. The daily fanboy instigations are getting a little tired, already.
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#5 Episode_Eve
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Man, Crytek is sure in the news a lot recently. I think we need a Crytek sticky :P.
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#6 UnknownSniper65
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I think consoles need to stop devouring every great FPS on the PC.
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#7 Salt_The_Fries
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Console gamers tend to crave for an instant gratification.
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#8 Hahadouken
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Man, Crytek is sure in the news a lot recently. I think we need a Crytek sticky :P.Episode_Eve
Agreed. You'd think all these quotes came from the same article, but it's like they release a daily morsel for fanboys to fight over. One day it's insult the 360, the next insult the PS3, then insult the PC, now insult console gamers as a whole... it's way too early to be playing these hype games.
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#9 ToScA-
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Christ, a controversial statement each and every day from these guys.
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#10 G-O-M-J
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Theres dudes from crytek that are on system wars.
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#11 88mphSlayer
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obviously

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#12 mayceV
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well I think his writer doesn't care for other development team's hard work. I care for the Development of a game, I hate when people bash games for small things, granted I'm not the whole gaming popultion and he may be more right than wrong but I've never hated a writer so much that I want a story to fail, Story is the best part of SP. but him dissing games on all sides and acting like an elitist because he is a book author doesn't give him the right to bash otheer Development team's hard work.
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#13 DraugenCP
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Way to generalise. Looks like someone's just been butthurt and felt the need to express his frustrations by having a go at a huge group of gamers. Even in relative terms, I'd have to say that statement is totally untrue, by the way.

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#14 Parasomniac
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Crytek sure is flapping their gums lately. I don't like them.
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What do you think?Episode_Eve

I think Crytek should shut up for a while.

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#16 G-O-M-J
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Their whole market research team must be here reading what we're saying lol
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#17 FIipMode
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They talk way too much.
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let your work do the talking.

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#19 mayceV
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and this guy is wrong (just read it) there are lots of bad or flawed games that sell plenty for what they are, hour of victory sold 700k, Haze 700k, Army of 2 1.9 million+, Mercs2 World in flames 1.5 mil+. console gamers are forgivingsimply because they'll give games a chance(and not all look at scores on websites to decide on a game.)
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I think I show them my appreciation by paying $40-$60 for each game.
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#21 mayceV
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Crytek sure is flapping their gums lately. I don't like them.Parasomniac
me niether they're becoming overly cocky, and it's in a very negative way towards devs and customers. Don't know anyone this cocky (except Bod kotnick)
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#22 icygangsta
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I honestly have no idea what to think about this.

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#23 Menalque2
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Was that a brushstroke on the back of my neck? Now I feel slightly tarred.

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#24 with_teeth26
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God their cocky. Whatever, they are one of the few devs that can back up their bragging with actual quality games, but jeez, this is getting ridiculous. Unless Crysis 2 is the second coming of Cryst (see what i did thar), i don't think it will live up to what these guys are saying.

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Yerli is starting to talk out of his ass almost as much as Molyneux now. Its like a new article is released about something someone from Crytek has said almost every day now.

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They are really making me not to want to give them my money the way they have been lately.
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Well thats cuz we have to pay for most our updates and we get no patches pretty much. DLC sucks......
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#28 SilentlyMad
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Yerli is starting to talk out of his ass almost as much as Molyneux now. Its like a new article is released about something someone from Crytek has said almost every day now.

foxhound_fox

Molyneux is far better then these guys. He hypes his games but these guys just insult every console and now gamers in general. One is excited for his game and the other is a (bleep!).

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I think I show them my appreciation by paying $40-$60 for each game.RedruM_I
was gonna say the same thing
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Yerli is starting to talk out of his ass almost as much as Molyneux now. Its like a new article is released about something someone from Crytek has said almost every day now.

foxhound_fox
Molyneux never insults gamers or anyone else's games. He just gets a tad bit excited about his own work.
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#31 mayceV
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They are really making me not to want to give them my money the way they have been lately.SilentlyMad
right? this dropped a couple notches on my 2010 list. even behiend Fable 3 , this man Might be the next Peter molynuex, Peter has been quiet for a while now good I guess he surfed the web saw that he was killing fable by over hyping it (and getting dissed from all sides) and decided to let 3 talk for itself .
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I'm majoring to become a developer and I know what he's talking about. Console only gamers, which I think he was referring to, probably never actually worked or seen the complexity of programming any kinds of codes.
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#33 mayceV
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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Yerli is starting to talk out of his ass almost as much as Molyneux now. Its like a new article is released about something someone from Crytek has said almost every day now.

Molyneux never insults gamers or anyone else's games. He just gets a tad bit excited about his own work.

tru dat. peter has some sort of love affoair with Half life, Ico, and shooters now.
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#34 TheSterls
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At least console players are buying there games most the time.

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#35 Menalque2
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Yerli is starting to talk out of his ass almost as much as Molyneux now. Its like a new article is released about something someone from Crytek has said almost every day now.

foxhound_fox

More like four times a day. If this is a publicity stunt, then it's going to backfire.

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I'm majoring to become a developer and I know what he's talking about. Console only gamers, which I think he was referring to, probably never actually worked or seen the complexity of programming any kinds of codes.XenogearsMaster

I program and I know many other console gamers at my university that program.

Even before I started programming I respected developers work - I forgave glaring gameplay flaws and glitches if the game could provide some semblance of a good time.

He's making a broad generalization and he's wrong.

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#37 mayceV
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I'm majoring to become a developer and I know what he's talking about. Console only gamers, which I think he was referring to, probably never actually worked or seen the complexity of programming any kinds of codes.XenogearsMaster
but he is generalizing because a lot of gamers just go to the store see a nice cover and buy the game, Gamers are much more open than what you may believe and every game gets its chance I mean look at the success of less giant titles such as dead space, Army of 2, borderlands.turok 07 gamers give lots of room for flaws, Just make a good game for a big target audience (diffrent for each console) and it'll sell well.
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#38 mo0ksi
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I just hope they walk the walk with Crysis 2, otherwise they're going to have to eat up a lot of words.
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Crytek sure like to let their opinions be known lately.
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#41 DarkLink77
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Crytek really needs to shut up. I'm losing respect for the studio every time someone there opens their mouth.

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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Yerli is starting to talk out of his ass almost as much as Molyneux now. Its like a new article is released about something someone from Crytek has said almost every day now.

Parasomniac

Molyneux never insults gamers or anyone else's games. He just gets a tad bit excited about his own work.

what... do you guys really think the average console gamer is going to be happy with their $60 purchase if right out of the box, there's some issues?

PC gamers were willing to put up with bad AI in the demo and still get the game, and even then were willing to wait several years for the right-priced graphics cards to run the game properly

i don't know of any console gamers like that, there's just simply a different mentality between the two audiences, i don't think Yerli insulted anybody's intelligence, he even said it's made them a better developer

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So i guess i m a console gamer because i only buy good games? k..
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I think people might be taking this the wrong way. I took it as him saying that for console gamers the game is ass or it isn't. Nobody cares if you put your heart and soul into a game that sucks and that they are making sure that the game is good. Perhaps in response to people saying Crysis is a great tech demo but a meh FPS.
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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"][QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

Yerli is starting to talk out of his ass almost as much as Molyneux now. Its like a new article is released about something someone from Crytek has said almost every day now.

88mphSlayer

Molyneux never insults gamers or anyone else's games. He just gets a tad bit excited about his own work.

what... do you guys really think the average console gamer is going to be happy with their $60 purchase if right out of the box, there's some issues?

PC gamers were willing to put up with bad AI in the demo and still get the game, and even then were willing to wait several years for the right-priced graphics cards to run the game properly

i don't know of any console gamers like that, there's just simply a different mentality between the two audiences, i don't think Yerli insulted anybody's intelligence, he even said it's made them a better developer

He didn't say "the average console gamer", and do you really know so many people who are segmented into being a "______ gamer"? There are millions of examples all over the internet of PC gamers crying about games not working and needing patches Day One. They are not all patiently and politely sitting there waiting, understanding the struggle and the process. They are customers who expect their money to go towards a working product, just like anyone else. I saw just as many mouthbreathing fools in WoW as in COD4. There's not a "different mentality" whatsoever, that whole idea is ridiculous. Two generalizations don't make a right. ;)
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what... do you guys really think the average console gamer is going to be happy with their $60 purchase if right out of the box, there's some issues?

PC gamers were willing to put up with bad AI in the demo and still get the game, and even then were willing to wait several years for the right-priced graphics cards to run the game properly

i don't know of any console gamers like that, there's just simply a different mentality between the two audiences, i don't think Yerli insulted anybody's intelligence, he even said it's made them a better developer

88mphSlayer

I'm sorry, but...

1. PC gamers don't pay $60 for their games because publishers don't have to pay licensing fees for an open platform (I thought this would have been elementary common knowledge for a hermit)

2. Where have you been for the past five years? Console gamers play downloadable demos all the time and their games are still often left unfinished upon release and have to wait for updates or patches to fix certain bugs.

If anything, the inverse of what he is saying is true. I would go so far as to say that the CEO's statement amounts to preliminary damage control.

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[QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

[QUOTE="Parasomniac"] Molyneux never insults gamers or anyone else's games. He just gets a tad bit excited about his own work.Hahadouken

what... do you guys really think the average console gamer is going to be happy with their $60 purchase if right out of the box, there's some issues?

PC gamers were willing to put up with bad AI in the demo and still get the game, and even then were willing to wait several years for the right-priced graphics cards to run the game properly

i don't know of any console gamers like that, there's just simply a different mentality between the two audiences, i don't think Yerli insulted anybody's intelligence, he even said it's made them a better developer

He didn't say "the average console gamer", and do you really know so many people who are segmented into being a "______ gamer"? There are millions of examples all over the internet of PC gamers crying about games not working and needing patches Day One. They are not all patiently and politely sitting there waiting, understanding the struggle and the process. They are customers who expect their money to go towards a working product, just like anyone else. I saw just as many mouthbreathing fools in WoW as in COD4. There's not a "different mentality" whatsoever, that whole idea is ridiculous. Two generalizations don't make a right. ;)

no doubt, no market is 100% black & white, but it's still a lot more common for a PC game to get fried with complaints and still go on to become a success after it's been patched, i can't recall many console games doing something like that, generally it's a "hit the ground running" market, not because people are intelligent or dumb, but simply because of different expectations

ie: if GTA4 had hit the PS3/360 with the issues it had when it was released on PC, people would've burned rockstar games to the ground

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They seem to have a lot of spare time on their hands these days. I guess the game is almost finished?

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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

what... do you guys really think the average console gamer is going to be happy with their $60 purchase if right out of the box, there's some issues?

PC gamers were willing to put up with bad AI in the demo and still get the game, and even then were willing to wait several years for the right-priced graphics cards to run the game properly

i don't know of any console gamers like that, there's just simply a different mentality between the two audiences, i don't think Yerli insulted anybody's intelligence, he even said it's made them a better developer

88mphSlayer

He didn't say "the average console gamer", and do you really know so many people who are segmented into being a "______ gamer"? There are millions of examples all over the internet of PC gamers crying about games not working and needing patches Day One. They are not all patiently and politely sitting there waiting, understanding the struggle and the process. They are customers who expect their money to go towards a working product, just like anyone else. I saw just as many mouthbreathing fools in WoW as in COD4. There's not a "different mentality" whatsoever, that whole idea is ridiculous. Two generalizations don't make a right. ;)

no doubt, no market is 100% black & white, but it's still a lot more common for a PC game to get fried with complaints and still go on to become a success after it's been patched, i can't recall many console games doing something like that, generally it's a "hit the ground running" market, not because people are intelligent or dumb, but simply because of different expectations

MW2 stimulus pack had widely-reported issues and the mouthbreathing console fans haven't taken to the streets in protest. The argument can certainly be made that console gamers have LESS patience and LESS inclination to understand the process behind making a game, but I feel like he's making far too broad a generalization, and it's insulting. It's also insulting that anyone wouldn't consider the fact that many people are just GAMERS, not console gamers or PC gamers.
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[QUOTE="Hahadouken"][QUOTE="88mphSlayer"]

what... do you guys really think the average console gamer is going to be happy with their $60 purchase if right out of the box, there's some issues?

PC gamers were willing to put up with bad AI in the demo and still get the game, and even then were willing to wait several years for the right-priced graphics cards to run the game properly

i don't know of any console gamers like that, there's just simply a different mentality between the two audiences, i don't think Yerli insulted anybody's intelligence, he even said it's made them a better developer

88mphSlayer

He didn't say "the average console gamer", and do you really know so many people who are segmented into being a "______ gamer"? There are millions of examples all over the internet of PC gamers crying about games not working and needing patches Day One. They are not all patiently and politely sitting there waiting, understanding the struggle and the process. They are customers who expect their money to go towards a working product, just like anyone else. I saw just as many mouthbreathing fools in WoW as in COD4. There's not a "different mentality" whatsoever, that whole idea is ridiculous. Two generalizations don't make a right. ;)

no doubt, no market is 100% black & white, but it's still a lot more common for a PC game to get fried with complaints and still go on to become a success after it's been patched, i can't recall many console games doing something like that, generally it's a "hit the ground running" market, not because people are intelligent or dumb, but simply because of different expectations

I think Gears 2 is a good example to console players having some patience. Not sure of the exact number of active players online now, but I'm sure its pretty high. But. in part, that was a consequence to not beta testing...