Crytek says PS3/360 will hold back any major graphical progression for 3 years!

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#51 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]cant say that i care, if making a game for a weaker hardware is such a a burden, then stick to pc, im sure they will make some sort of profit out of itDante2710


When did they say it was a burden? It sounds to me like they were just speaking matter-of-factly. I mean it's common sense...when you're targeting multiple platforms, you always have to caer to the lowest common denominator.

thats a burden and an obstacle, just looks like a lame excuse to me if their games on a console are complete trash, if they care so much about games improving in different aspect, then just stick to pc

I have no idea how you're coming to such conclusions. They weren't even talking about their own games, but rather games in general. They spoke about it because they were asked a question, not because they were complaining about it.

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Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer
lol "nVidiaGaMer". are you series?

anyway old news, Crytek should stick with the PC platfrom. It's what they do best and they have all those deals in the PC world. I don't see them giving that up to release multiplatform titles

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#53 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]cant say that i care, if making a game for a weaker hardware is such a a burden, then stick to pc, im sure they will make some sort of profit out of itTeufelhuhn



When did they say it was a burden? It sounds to me like they were just speaking matter-of-factly. I mean it's common sense...when you're targeting multiple platforms, you always have to caer to the lowest common denominator.

thats a burden and an obstacle, just looks like a lame excuse to me if their games on a console are complete trash, if they care so much about games improving in different aspect, then just stick to pc

I have no idea how you're coming to such conclusions. They weren't even talking about their own games, but rather games in general. They spoke about it because they were asked a question, not because they were complaining about it.

they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cash
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#54 Teuf_
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they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cashDante2710


Of course they're doing it to make more money. Why else would they?
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Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer
WTF are you on?

Crysis blows those games out of the water in terms of visuals

It isn't even close.
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"] they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cashTeufelhuhn


Of course they're doing it to make more money. Why else would they?

to me that says they have no respect for the consoles, its basically an alibi so they can make some extra money on the side
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#57 Teuf_
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Dante2710"] they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cashDante2710


Of course they're doing it to make more money. Why else would they?

to me that says they have no respect for the consoles, its basically an alibi so they can make some extra money on the side

They have no respect for the consoles because they have limitations compared to the PC? I really don't follow.

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#58 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="Dante2710"] they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cashTeufelhuhn



Of course they're doing it to make more money. Why else would they?

to me that says they have no respect for the consoles, its basically an alibi so they can make some extra money on the side

They have no respect for the consoles because they have limitations compared to the PC? I really don't follow.

they see it as a side job, nothing important, or at least thats what i gathered after reading the article, knowing how limitless pc are, and what console are capable of, i will def questioned their quality when it comes to developing games for consoles
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except it hasn't be...debunked When crysis was first released it needed a 1-2k dollar system to just play at minimum specs let alone max, And said systems were obselete for games released a year after crysis, Its a simple fact if you want to be capable of playing the best games at the highest settings day one you have to purchase a system for 600-1k dollars now and then update it atleast once a year and if you want to play day one games you gotta get said graphics cards as soon as they come out at the high price.

Its never ben debunked people come forward with systems oh look at my 600 dollar system that can play crysis...A YEAR after its been out, I want to see a 600 dollar system playing a game like crysis warhead on day one.

Then we have the hermits that are like well you dont need a keyboard, or monitor or pretty much any thing else, lets just cut out the sound card, the hard drives...ect since we can just use that stuff from our old computers, Crytek has no real right to talk at all since they are literally a pc only developer and the ps3 and 360 will hold them back because they aren't good enough to scale there games to look great on pc's and look great on consoles.

This isn't a matter of power this is a matter of fact that crytek is a crappy developer.

P.S:Play means MAX settings, Hermits only care about max settings and how PCs are superior to consoles in graphics and sound, But in reality pc gaming is the low end of the gaming spectrum.

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lol, what?

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#61 woobabooba
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crysis engine and consoles is holding back pc graphics.

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#62 Bebi_vegeta
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they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cashDante2710

Just like any game that goes multiplate... yeah :roll:.

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#63 dream431ca
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Ok. How are the consoles holding back PC graphics?? To my knowledge and proof (Crysis), PC graphics are beyond console graphics. Are they just talking about multiplats?
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#64 Teuf_
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Are they just talking about multiplats?dream431ca


Pretty much. They're speaking in general terms about PC games, and the large majority of PC games are multiplats.
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#65 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]

they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cashBebi_vegeta

Just like any game that goes multiplate... yeah :roll:.

which is why developers who develop exclusively for pc, should stay that way, i mean why hinder their quality with such weak hardware :roll:
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#66 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Dante2710"]

they clearly stated that they are limited by the 360/ps3 hardware.......i fail to see why they plan on developing games for consoles other than getting some extra cashDante2710

Just like any game that goes multiplate... yeah :roll:.

which is why developers who develop exclusively for pc, should stay that way, i mean why hinder their quality with such weak hardware :roll:

Did they say they were making the same game, but with lower hardware? Or else they would just use low end PC settings and trow it on the console.

And please, console have dated hardware it's a fact... it's the main reason why you can't just port Crysis the way it is.

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[QUOTE="nVidiaGaMer"]Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.jg4xchamp
WTF are you on?

Crysis blows those games out of the water in terms of visuals

It isn't even close.



Not only Crysis..but also World in Conflict,FarCry 2 Stalker CS.. and many more..
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#68 Veterngamer
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So Crytek knows that there are no development teams planning on making PC Exclusive games in the next 3 years?

LOL, gimme a break!

We all know how bright Crytek is, when the put all the of their eggs in 1 basket (the PS4 being the basket), when they know nothing about how well or capable the basket will be constructed.

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#69 Dante2710
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Did they say they were making the same game, but with lower hardware? Or else they would just use low end PC settings and trow it on the console.

And please, console have dated hardware it's a fact... it's the main reason why you can't just port Crysis the way it is.

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they will most likely use low end pc settings, and as far as crysis goes, im quite aware it isnt possible on consoles, in fact im using crysis as a standard for the rig im building in christmas, but im not interested on the game in the first place
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#70 Bebi_vegeta
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So Crytek knows that there are no development teams planning on making PC Exclusive games in the next 3 years?

LOL, gimme a break!

We all know how bright Crytek is, when the put all the of their eggs in 1 basket (the PS4 being the basket), when they know nothing about how well or capable the basket will be constructed.

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In that case, the PS4 will be what Sony promised the PS3 to be...

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#71 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Did they say they were making the same game, but with lower hardware? Or else they would just use low end PC settings and trow it on the console.

And please, console have dated hardware it's a fact... it's the main reason why you can't just port Crysis the way it is.

Dante2710

they will most likely use low end pc settings, and as far as crysis goes, im quite aware it isnt possible on consoles, in fact im using crysis as a standard for the rig im building in christmas, but im not interested on the game in the first place

Well it's all starting to make sense now... you just a Crytek hater...

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#72 Dante2710
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Well it's all starting to make sense now... you just a Crytek hater...

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:roll: yeah man, thats exactly it
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#73 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well it's all starting to make sense now... you just a Crytek hater...

Dante2710

:roll: yeah man, thats exactly it

Why else would you not wanna try Crysis... or even be happy about Crytek finaly doing something on console?

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#74 Dante2710
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well it's all starting to make sense now... you just a Crytek hater...

Bebi_vegeta

:roll: yeah man, thats exactly it

Why else would you not wanna try Crysis... or even be happy about Crytek finaly doing something on console?

funny thing is im getting a new pc to mostly play older games, and garry`s mods........
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#75 Bebi_vegeta
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="Dante2710"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Well it's all starting to make sense now... you just a Crytek hater...

Dante2710

:roll: yeah man, thats exactly it

Why else would you not wanna try Crysis... or even be happy about Crytek finaly doing something on console?

funny thing is im getting a new pc to mostly play older games, and garry`s mods........

Skipping the question... alright, old games are good too (Half-life in mind).

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#76 Dante2710
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Skipping the question... alright, old games are good too (Half-life in mind).

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im just not interested in crysis, the main reason im using it as a standard is because project offset, which i think will be as demanding as crysis.....and i plan on getting all half life episodes, along with CS,garry`s mods, and a few rts as well
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#77 3ggman
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[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

Skipping the question... alright, old games are good too (Half-life in mind).

Dante2710

im just not interested in crysis, the main reason im using it as a standard is because project offset, which i think will be as demanding as crysis.....and i plan on getting all half life episodes, along with CS,garry`s mods, and a few rts as well

Have you tried the game? I love the Half-Life series and Counter Strike but I also liked Crysis a lot. If you haven't tried it yet you should definitely try the demo out.

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#78 st1ka
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Personally i don't care about graphics but what crytek says is sad but true, it's always been the way of consoles.

Although to be honest i'm not sure i like realistic graphics.

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GS AU: So does that mean the games of today will be visually as good looking as we can expect to see for the next few years?

CY: For the next two to three years, for sure, yes. There will be some refinements here and there: We [are limited] by the PS3 and 360 hardware, but maybe on the PC we can scale some more. This will bridge the gap to some degree between current and next-gen on the PC without any new code. The possibilities we have are limited right now by the console generations.

How sad is that.Oh sure you would say that we dont care about graphics even though 40% of the threads at SW are about "console graphics king".:|

Seems like it's not the wii affecting hardcore gaming but the PS3/360 are the real culprits.

The only good thing about this is that anyone with an 8800 or better card wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years.But I am sure just like me most PC enthusiasts would rather upgrade and move on with the times.But damn consoles.:(

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As if I give a ****.Go and enjoy your PC's I was happy enough with last gen graphics.The only reason I upgraded to this gen was to play the latest games.As long as I can get them The boo hoo my PC RULEZ hermit can brag all they want.Its almost sad that graphics get so much importance these days.Oh and dont give us the 40% posts are about graphics thing.Do not generalize not every consolite thinks the same

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#80 deactivated-57dcbd90c2616
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PS3 and 360 are what's ruining gaming, they do nothing well or original and should die off. Not many people are buying that crap either. PC/Wii have the real gamers this gen.
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#81 lesner87
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Nothing new,this Cervart Yerli guy always likes to critices consoles.I will laugh my arse off the day he will be FORCED to port cryengine 2 to next gen consoles.Not far from now.
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#82 V_Isle
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Oh noes the consoles are holding back pc gamings graphics :cry: Erik_Lensherr

Think of it: shooter, after shooter, after shooter, after shooter, after shooter, all limited by teh consolez!

That sounds terrible to me.

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#83 KalEl370
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Hey its not the console's fault their pc games don't sell well....maybe if pc gamers bought more games they wouldn't have to go multiplat.
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#84 Dahaka-UK
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High end graphics are not essential, this is what the Crytek developers and the hermits need to realise. Now excuse me while I go and play Megaman 9 and have a million times more fun on it than both Crysis games.
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#85 HenriH-42
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Which is why my 1,5 year old PC can still pretty much max out every game out there. So much for the 3000 $ monthly upgrades.

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#86 vlin1108
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Why do people automatically assume that a game developer has to be biased towards one system when its representatives make a public statements that doesn't sound favourable for the other ones' platform? Why do people resort to critcism of said company's products, instead of analyzing and criticizing the opinion itself?

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#87 3ggman
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High end graphics are not essential, this is what the Crytek developers and the hermits need to realise. Now excuse me while I go and play Megaman 9 and have a million times more fun on it than both Crysis games.Dahaka-UK

Doubt it.

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#88 jasonheyman
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Problem is though if they would make consoles the same as PC's the price would be to high! IMO, thats why consoles lag behind PC's because they want to keep them affordable...

Do you really see gamers wanting to spend 1000 to 1600 for a console?? Doubt it!!... I'm sure they will find a way soon to keep it affordable and look just as good on all gaming platforms...

As far as holding anything back, I don't agree with that. There is big money in the consoles, peeps are just gonna have to get over that:D

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#89 M337ING
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Nothing new,this Cervart Yerli guy always likes to critices consoles.I will laugh my arse off the day he will be FORCED to port cryengine 2 to next gen consoles.Not far from now.lesner87

It was ported a year ago...

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:o Are you telling me PC's which are upgradeable can output better graphics per generation that a non-upgradeable console?!?!?!killab2oo5
That was never the point.Stop trying to act smart.:roll:
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#91 Spybot_9
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You contradicted yourself, acting like graphics don't matter, but blaming 360/PS3 as the culprit for holding them back ruining hardcore gaming. Hm... -_-rolo107
WHAT?:|
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except it hasn't be...debunked When crysis was first released it needed a 1-2k dollar system to just play at minimum specs let alone max, And said systems were obselete for games released a year after crysis, Its a simple fact if you want to be capable of playing the best games at the highest settings day one you have to purchase a system for 600-1k dollars now and then update it atleast once a year and if you want to play day one games you gotta get said graphics cards as soon as they come out at the high price.

Its never ben debunked people come forward with systems oh look at my 600 dollar system that can play crysis...A YEAR after its been out, I want to see a 600 dollar system playing a game like crysis warhead on day one.

Then we have the hermits that are like well you dont need a keyboard, or monitor or pretty much any thing else, lets just cut out the sound card, the hard drives...ect since we can just use that stuff from our old computers, Crytek has no real right to talk at all since they are literally a pc only developer and the ps3 and 360 will hold them back because they aren't good enough to scale there games to look great on pc's and look great on consoles.

This isn't a matter of power this is a matter of fact that crytek is a crappy developer.

P.S:Play means MAX settings, Hermits only care about max settings and how PCs are superior to consoles in graphics and sound, But in reality pc gaming is the low end of the gaming spectrum.

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I bought a PC in dec 2006 with an 8800GTS 640MB for 1k.It still maxes all games except the original crysis and THAT'S A FACT.Your post speaks volumes of your astounding ignorance about PC hardware and thus it's pointless to discuss anything else.

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#93 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Dante2710"]cant say that i care, if making a game for a weaker hardware is such a a burden, then stick to pc, im sure they will make some sort of profit out of itTeufelhuhn


When did they say it was a burden? It sounds to me like they were just speaking matter-of-factly. I mean it's common sense...when you're targeting multiple platforms, you always have to caer to the lowest common denominator.

It's obviously a burden.It's all too obvious that crytek's passion is to push the technology to new levels which they did with both far cry and crysis.
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#94 skrat_01
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Of course it will across platforms...

Did console fanboys think it wouldent?

The hardware is terribly outdated, and has aged poorly.

What do you expect really.

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#95 mamkem6
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I am the leader in 8/16 bit terrorist organisation. Our goal is to bring back 8 bit or 16 bit consoles. Crytek will be destroyed!

Resistance is futile! :twisted:

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#96 Spybot_9
Member since 2008 • 2592 Posts
High end graphics are not essential, this is what the Crytek developers and the hermits need to realise. Now excuse me while I go and play Megaman 9 and have a million times more fun on it than both Crysis games.Dahaka-UK
And yet the very lifeblood of lemmings and cows run on KZ2 vs G2 graphics comparasions.:roll:
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#97 Marka1700
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I fail to see how PS3/360 effects the potential graphical advancements of PC exlusive games.

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#98 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts

Problem is though if they would make consoles the same as PC's the price would be to high! IMO, thats why consoles lag behind PC's because they want to keep them affordable...

Do you really see gamers wanting to spend 1000 to 1600 for a console?? Doubt it!!... I'm sure they will find a way soon to keep it affordable and look just as good on all gaming platforms...

As far as holding anything back, I don't agree with that. There is big money in the consoles, peeps are just gonna have to get over that:D

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Consoles lag behind PCs because they have static hardware. The companies behind them want as much money as the can get from the technology within them - so of course you are not going to be getting state of the art hardware - you never will - even when you buy it on launch.

Consoles are more affordable, because as the hardware ages and becomes poorer and poorer the manufacturing costs dwindle. You would be surprised how cheap it is to manufacture a 360 or a Wii. Get a PC with similar hardware to a 360 and it would be a similar price. Old hardware does that.

PC gamers can spend more on a PC as they are paying for somthing that is new and state of the art, a consoles hardware simply cannot compare - its almost aincent in comparison. Its not a matter of 'value' its - you get what you pay for. You spend $399 on a 360, you a paying for $399 worth of hardware and an MS mark up. What do you expect?

There is big money on every platform.
Devs already realise that, hence why there is so much development for all the platforms.

Difference is PC isnt directly competing with the consoles cross market - and is an entirely different type of market in general - alien to the console one.

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#99 skrat_01
Member since 2007 • 33767 Posts

I fail to see how PS3/360 effects the potential graphical advancements of PC exlusive games.

Marka1700

It doesent, its just the broader spectrum of gaming in general.

Hence why games such as STALKER and Crysis are technologically a generation ahead of anything on consoles... and I dont mean in terms of visuals at all - rather the design complexity and technicalities of the games.

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#100 WilliamRLBaker
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I reiterate when Crytek can create a game that can be played day on one a year-2 year old system at max settings then they can talk, till then every single one of their games require the greatest and latest this has been proven many times on crysis alone no one could play it when it was first released and that was the big thing that it was so extremely demanding that even months later people still had problems, It wasn't till a year later that ""600"" dollar PC's could play it at max.