Crytek says PS3/360 will hold back any major graphical progression for 3 years!

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#151 HuusAsking
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Wouldnt expect such a dumb comment from you.:|Spybot_9
It's called "make a stupid claim, get a stupid response". Plus I hate exaggerated claims. People need to tell the Truth (the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth) and stop talking about "maxing out" a game unless it's maxed out--and that includes max resolution.
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#152 Espada12
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[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]LOL when crytek can create a good game that actual regular people can play and not rich people whom can afford the setup their game requires to play on then they can talk.

For all of the requirements to play cryteks crap games those games are pretty mediocre in the least and total crap at the most.
and what he is saying is downright stupid its only obvious that the consoles will hold back graphical progression on their own systems for 3 years because its their own system, Its not the consoles faults that to this day pc gaming is running for no reason at all at 120% to the point that just like in the 90's if you buy something its all ready obselete, they need to stop or the pc gaming industry is simply gonna crash specially in today's economy it sux to buy an brand new pc just to find that its obsolete all ready and that batch of games comming out at the end of the year wont play on your system at max settings. Which is why i stopped pc gaming except for simple games, Its too much money and time to worry about how i just purchased this 1k-2k system and within a month its obsolete and within a year some of the newest games wont play on it at max settings.


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and it bolded down to that argument which has been debunked many times. So wait I'm not a regular person? I get to play crysis does that make me rich? I don't think so :S, if a PC can run crysis it is set for quite a while as crysis was a HUGE jump in technical terms.

except it hasn't be...debunked When crysis was first released it needed a 1-2k dollar system to just play at minimum specs let alone max, And said systems were obselete for games released a year after crysis, Its a simple fact if you want to be capable of playing the best games at the highest settings day one you have to purchase a system for 600-1k dollars now and then update it atleast once a year and if you want to play day one games you gotta get said graphics cards as soon as they come out at the high price.

Its never ben debunked people come forward with systems oh look at my 600 dollar system that can play crysis...A YEAR after its been out, I want to see a 600 dollar system playing a game like crysis warhead on day one.

Then we have the hermits that are like well you dont need a keyboard, or monitor or pretty much any thing else, lets just cut out the sound card, the hard drives...ect since we can just use that stuff from our old computers, Crytek has no real right to talk at all since they are literally a pc only developer and the ps3 and 360 will hold them back because they aren't good enough to scale there games to look great on pc's and look great on consoles.

This isn't a matter of power this is a matter of fact that crytek is a crappy developer.

P.S:Play means MAX settings, Hermits only care about max settings and how PCs are superior to consoles in graphics and sound, But in reality pc gaming is the low end of the gaming spectrum.

Wait, tell me what game came after crysis that made those systems obsolete? Please tell me because the PC I used to play crysis original on high I'm currently playing Warhead on the max.. so please tell me what was these games that made a PC made to play crysis obsolete.

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#153 LOXO7
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If the threads say "console graphics king" dont get mad because PC is not in the conversation. :(
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#154 PandaBear86
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Seems like it's not the wii affecting hardcore gaming but the PS3/360 are the real culprits.

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For hardcore PC gamers, thats true. The Wii does not dumb down PC gaming because it is a COMPLETELY different market to hardcore PC gaming. The graphics difference between a 9800GX2 and Wii's GPU is so big that developers don't bother trying trying to dumb down PC games for the Wii, and thats a good thing.

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#155 Blackbond
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Tell Crytek to come back and say this once they make a better looking game then Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, or soon to be king God of War III.nVidiaGaMer

Dude is faking.

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#156 Espada12
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Wouldnt expect such a dumb comment from you.:|HuusAsking
It's called "make a stupid claim, get a stupid response". Plus I hate exaggerated claims. People need to tell the Truth (the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth) and stop talking about "maxing out" a game unless it's maxed out--and that includes max resolution.

Well I max it out at the res I can! Which is 1600x1200!

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#157 dd2005nian
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ps3, xb360 both 3years old hardware.

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#158 Jd1680a
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GS AU: So does that mean the games of today will be visually as good looking as we can expect to see for the next few years?

CY: For the next two to three years, for sure, yes. There will be some refinements here and there: We [are limited] by the PS3 and 360 hardware, but maybe on the PC we can scale some more. This will bridge the gap to some degree between current and next-gen on the PC without any new code. The possibilities we have are limited right now by the console generations.

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The console hardware is much more limited then the PC. In the past two years, graphic cards and the CPUs performance for the PC have increased while the console stay the same. The only way the console hardware to keep up with the demand for better graphics is to make a new generation with updated hardware.

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#159 Spybot_9
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Wouldnt expect such a dumb comment from you.:|HuusAsking
It's called "make a stupid claim, get a stupid response". Plus I hate exaggerated claims. People need to tell the Truth (the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth) and stop talking about "maxing out" a game unless it's maxed out--and that includes max resolution.

No it doesnt.It's your opinion.And secondly resolution doesnt affect the graphical fidelity.And thirdly you cant even notice that many pixels,it's worthless.

As long as the picture is looking "extremely clean" with hardly any jaggies,then there is no need to up the res.I play in 1280x960 and with 4xAA I dont find any need to up the res or AA regardless of my PC's capabilities.

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#160 skektek
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Does anyone else notice the theme here? Many PC developers (e.g. Valve, ID, Crytek, etc) are always pissin'n'moanin' about what can't be done while console developers just go out and get it done with some great results. Of course there are exceptions, Epic and Bethesda come to mind, but generally PC developers seem to be a bunch of whiners. Those that can, do. Those that can't, complain.
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#161 Spybot_9
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Does anyone else notice the theme here? Many PC developers (e.g. Valve, ID, Crytek, etc) are always pissin'n'moanin' about what can't be done while console developers just go out and get it done with some great results. Of course there are exceptions, Epic and Bethesda come to mind, but generally PC developers seem to be a bunch of whiners. Those that can, do. Those that can't, complain.skektek
Kojima was complaining about PS3 hardware.

And besides this is exactly why MS and Sony keep the devs on a payroll to shut off their mouths to fool people like you lol.The PC is an open platform,the devs can say whatever they want to.

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#162 Noobsy
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well, if consoles can do crysis graphics on high/very high, i wouldn't mind it for 3 years

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#163 HuusAsking
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[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]Wouldnt expect such a dumb comment from you.:|Spybot_9

It's called "make a stupid claim, get a stupid response". Plus I hate exaggerated claims. People need to tell the Truth (the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth) and stop talking about "maxing out" a game unless it's maxed out--and that includes max resolution.

No it doesnt.It's your opinion.And secondly resolution doesnt affect the graphical fidelity.And thirdly you cant even notice that many pixels,it's worthless.

As long as the picture is looking "extremely clean" with hardly any jaggies,then there is no need to up the res.I play in 1280x960 and with 4xAA I dont find any need to up the res or AA regardless of my PC's capabilities.

It's not opinion, it's fact. If it's not as far as one can possibly take it, then it's not "maxed out", by definition.

And I still stand by my position against all the exaggerated claims. If you're going to claim you can max a game out on a $600 machine, show me the invoice and the benchmarks. If you claim a console will pump out 1080p60 dual screen (remember, Sony?), then let's see the darn game that can pump out 2 1920x1080 screens @60Hz.

The truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

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#164 naruto7777
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i think we all no this
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#165 nVidiaGaMer
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[QUOTE="skektek"]Does anyone else notice the theme here? Many PC developers (e.g. Valve, ID, Crytek, etc) are always pissin'n'moanin' about what can't be done while console developers just go out and get it done with some great results. Of course there are exceptions, Epic and Bethesda come to mind, but generally PC developers seem to be a bunch of whiners. Those that can, do. Those that can't, complain.Spybot_9

Kojima was complaining about PS3 hardware.

And besides this is exactly why MS and Sony keep the devs on a payroll to shut off their mouths to fool people like you lol.The PC is an open platform,the devs can say whatever they want to.

Kojima is such a perfectionist. The original MGS E3 2006 trailer was developed on SLI 7900 cards thats why he complained when the PS3 only had a single 7800 ... Sony basically lied to him ... either way MGS 4 looks great.

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#166 MrAcula
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GS AU: So does that mean the games of today will be visually as good looking as we can expect to see for the next few years?

CY: For the next two to three years, for sure, yes. There will be some refinements here and there: We [are limited] by the PS3 and 360 hardware, but maybe on the PC we can scale some more. This will bridge the gap to some degree between current and next-gen on the PC without any new code. The possibilities we have are limited right now by the console generations.

How sad is that.Oh sure you would say that we dont care about graphics even though 40% of the threads at SW are about "console graphics king".:|

Seems like it's not the wii affecting hardcore gaming but the PS3/360 are the real culprits.

The only good thing about this is that anyone with an 8800 or better card wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years.But I am sure just like me most PC enthusiasts would rather upgrade and move on with the times.But damn consoles.:(

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Hahaha!

This is not news though, it was evident since the begining of this console gen. Since a olddual-core and a 7900GT beats either console. I guess teh untapped potentials of PC (8x processing power or more) can atleast be used for more AA AF and higher resolutions aswell as mods that make graphic better.

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#167 lesner87
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[QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

GS AU: So does that mean the games of today will be visually as good looking as we can expect to see for the next few years?

CY: For the next two to three years, for sure, yes. There will be some refinements here and there: We [are limited] by the PS3 and 360 hardware, but maybe on the PC we can scale some more. This will bridge the gap to some degree between current and next-gen on the PC without any new code. The possibilities we have are limited right now by the console generations.

How sad is that.Oh sure you would say that we dont care about graphics even though 40% of the threads at SW are about "console graphics king".:|

Seems like it's not the wii affecting hardcore gaming but the PS3/360 are the real culprits.

The only good thing about this is that anyone with an 8800 or better card wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years.But I am sure just like me most PC enthusiasts would rather upgrade and move on with the times.But damn consoles.:(

MrAcula

Hahaha!

This is not news though, it was evident since the begining of this console gen. Since a olddual-core and a 7900GT beats either console. I guess teh untapped potentials of PC (8x processing power or more) can atleast be used for more AA AF and higher resolutions aswell as mods that make graphic better.

Yea but sadly no new features :(.

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#168 MrAcula
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[QUOTE="MrAcula"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

GS AU: So does that mean the games of today will be visually as good looking as we can expect to see for the next few years?

CY: For the next two to three years, for sure, yes. There will be some refinements here and there: We [are limited] by the PS3 and 360 hardware, but maybe on the PC we can scale some more. This will bridge the gap to some degree between current and next-gen on the PC without any new code. The possibilities we have are limited right now by the console generations.

How sad is that.Oh sure you would say that we dont care about graphics even though 40% of the threads at SW are about "console graphics king".:|

Seems like it's not the wii affecting hardcore gaming but the PS3/360 are the real culprits.

The only good thing about this is that anyone with an 8800 or better card wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years.But I am sure just like me most PC enthusiasts would rather upgrade and move on with the times.But damn consoles.:(

lesner87

Hahaha!

This is not news though, it was evident since the begining of this console gen. Since a olddual-core and a 7900GT beats either console. I guess teh untapped potentials of PC (8x processing power or more) can atleast be used for more AA AF and higher resolutions aswell as mods that make graphic better.

Yea but sadly no new features :(.

How come?

Crysis and several other games are using features not done on consoles, graphically and for gameplay elements. Exclusive to PC and use in large quantities due to the perfomance overhead.

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#169 lesner87
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[QUOTE="lesner87"][QUOTE="MrAcula"][QUOTE="Spybot_9"]

GS AU: So does that mean the games of today will be visually as good looking as we can expect to see for the next few years?

CY: For the next two to three years, for sure, yes. There will be some refinements here and there: We [are limited] by the PS3 and 360 hardware, but maybe on the PC we can scale some more. This will bridge the gap to some degree between current and next-gen on the PC without any new code. The possibilities we have are limited right now by the console generations.

How sad is that.Oh sure you would say that we dont care about graphics even though 40% of the threads at SW are about "console graphics king".:|

Seems like it's not the wii affecting hardcore gaming but the PS3/360 are the real culprits.

The only good thing about this is that anyone with an 8800 or better card wont need to upgrade for 2-3 years.But I am sure just like me most PC enthusiasts would rather upgrade and move on with the times.But damn consoles.:(

MrAcula

Hahaha!

This is not news though, it was evident since the begining of this console gen. Since a olddual-core and a 7900GT beats either console. I guess teh untapped potentials of PC (8x processing power or more) can atleast be used for more AA AF and higher resolutions aswell as mods that make graphic better.

Yea but sadly no new features :(.

How come?

Crysis and several other games are using features not done on consoles, graphically and for gameplay elements. Exclusive to PC and use in large quantities due to the perfomance overhead.

Yes your correct quantities mainly depend on the engine.Cryengine 2 is for very high end rigs.Dunia managed to get thousands of streaming trees all at once in a 50sqr km land without any loadings or walls on an affordble gaming rig on high quality.This is because they built the engine from scratch optimizing it for Dual core and Quad core processors.

And which features you talking about ?