Dark Souls II Wii U petition kicks off*

I have a 360, PS3, Wii U & PC... If it were to come out for all systems, I'd buy it on the Wii U, if not, PC it is then.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="The_Power_of_X"]I'm not going to bother responding to all of that because it is clear that I am just going to continue receiving emotional rants instead of a response. It is clear Nintendo fans uphold a double standard towards third parties as they trash them for behaving a certain way then go onto praise Nintendo for doing the same thing. Ubisoft's PR's issue is irrelevant because it really doesn't have anything to do with the game itself and yes they did increase the game's value. They added not just one or two new levels, they added thirty, THIRTY, new levels. That is thirty more than there would have been had the game stayed exclusive to the Wii U.

What does GTA5 have to do with anything? Last time I checked there hasn't been an announcement for a PC version let alone a Wii U version for GTA5 so I'm not seeing the connection here. Isn't Nintendo widely known for hosting light hearted cartoony games on its consoles? If anything the presence of GTA5 on the market and the lack of a Wii U version can only be good for Rayman Legends on the Wii U. It would have enough space to breathe and it is not like the games target the same demographic.  

The_Power_of_X

Rayman Legends and GTA V (the latter sells tens of millions compared to the former series and has FAR more hype) release around the same time. What's not to understand?

Lol Nintendoboy would rather have Nintendo burn and die than go third party. He compares them to SEGA as an excuse but yeah, rabbid fanboys, wow. 

[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]

[QUOTE="Zeviander"]Playing DSII on something other than PC would just be stupid.ChubbyGuy40

Do you know anything about PC gamers?

[QUOTE="The_Power_of_X"]

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]Their PR DOES deal with how they are handling the games release with Nintendo systems and it isn't helping their cause when they spew crap like they stick by their "system seller for Wii U" nonsense. So no, it isn't irrelevant.

Rayman Legends and GTA V (the latter sells tens of millions compared to the former series and has FAR more hype) release around the same time. What's not to understand?

sanim02

Lol Nintendoboy would rather have Nintendo burn and die than go third party. He compares them to SEGA as an excuse but yeah, rabbid fanboys, wow. 

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

[QUOTE="The_Power_of_X"]PR talk means nothing outside of internet forums. So yes it is irrelevant. Again, Rayman and GTA 5 appeal to different demographics and GTA 5 isn't even coming to the Wii U. Did the release of high profile games on the PS3/360 ever comprimise the sales of any Wii games? No. Then why would it be any different for the Wii U? It is obvious that you are just nit picking reasons for the game to fail.  

The_Power_of_X

Lol Nintendoboy would rather have Nintendo burn and die than go third party. He compares them to SEGA as an excuse but yeah, rabbid fanboys, wow. 

Pretty much. Not our fault that Nintendo showed him/her more love with the N64 than his mother. Industry would only benefit from Nintendo being multiplat on consoles but hey lets just go ahead and assume Nintendo is the next SEGA. *shrugs* 

inb4 they give the Wii U a half-assed port, then announce Dark Souls 3 with Wii U as the lead platform.

the_bi99man

:lol:

[QUOTE="The_Power_of_X"]

[QUOTE="sanim02"]

Lol Nintendoboy would rather have Nintendo burn and die than go third party. He compares them to SEGA as an excuse but yeah, rabbid fanboys, wow. 

sanim02

Pretty much. Not our fault that Nintendo showed him/her more love with the N64 than his mother. Industry would only benefit from Nintendo being multiplat on consoles but hey lets just go ahead and assume Nintendo is the next SEGA. *shrugs* 

This game should come to wiiU. Every gamer need to play this game.

narutosup

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

The visual quality Shadow Fall and Second Son blow away anything on Wii U, PS3 or 360 right now. That is good enough for me for launch.

ChubbyGuy40

Too bad nice visuals can never make up for the crappy gameplay.

Yeah keep hoping the gameplay will be crappy. Both are solid AAE franchises.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] I am not talking about resolution :? I am talking about the visual quality of the games. KZ4 runs at a lower frame-rateLastRambo341

The visual quality Shadow Fall and Second Son blow away anything on Wii U, PS3 or 360 right now. That is good enough for me for launch.

A piece of crap tablet controller can certainly make gameplay worse.

The PS4 visualls look fantastic and the Wii U tablet is incredibly fun to use. I dont know why people dog on it so much. It's really comfortable and light and has some great features so far.

The PS4 visualls look fantastic and the Wii U tablet is incredibly fun to use. I dont know why people dog on it so much. It's really comfortable and light and has some great features so far.

RyanShazam

Because most would rather have 1080p intead of an Etch-A-Sketch controller.

Yeah keep hoping the gameplay will be crappy. Both are solid AAE franchises.

StrongBlackVine

No need to hope. It does absolutely nothing to stand out or above any other shooter on the market today. Anyone who has played any of the 3 Killzone titles knows this.

Wow, 16,000 supporters. Not bad. Still not happening. I don't know why, Zombi U being somewhat similar in difficulty and less hand holding approach has already prepped 300k+ Wii U buyers for a game similar to this

looks like every one that owns a wii u has filled out this petition.

[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]

[QUOTE="The_Power_of_X"]I'm not going to bother responding to all of that because it is clear that I am just going to continue receiving emotional rants instead of a response. It is clear Nintendo fans uphold a double standard towards third parties as they trash them for behaving a certain way then go onto praise Nintendo for doing the same thing. Ubisoft's PR's issue is irrelevant because it really doesn't have anything to do with the game itself and yes they did increase the game's value. They added not just one or two new levels, they added thirty, THIRTY, new levels. That is thirty more than there would have been had the game stayed exclusive to the Wii U.

What does GTA5 have to do with anything? Last time I checked there hasn't been an announcement for a PC version let alone a Wii U version for GTA5 so I'm not seeing the connection here. Isn't Nintendo widely known for hosting light hearted cartoony games on its consoles? If anything the presence of GTA5 on the market and the lack of a Wii U version can only be good for Rayman Legends on the Wii U. It would have enough space to breathe and it is not like the games target the same demographic.  

The_Power_of_X

Rayman Legends and GTA V (the latter sells tens of millions compared to the former series and has FAR more hype) release around the same time. What's not to understand?

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

It doesn't need to stand out any more than it already does. Killzone is good for 2 to 3 million sales each release and that is fine. Resistance actually was different and it was commercial failure (well Resistance 3 was selling only 1.3 milion despite very good reviews)...shows that generic shooters are what people want.

ChubbyGuy40

Absolutely pathetic way to rationalize sh!t gameplay. No wonder you and others alike hate Nintendo so much. They give consolites actual games. Not surprising since they know gameplay comes before all else.

Are you trying to say that Sony doesn't give its customers diverse games? Uncharterd, Killzone inFAMOUS, God Of War, Little Big Planet,  Heavy Rain, Gran Turismoam MLB: The Show and closing out generation with The Last Of Us and Beyond Two Souls....you are way off point.

Microsoft is the company pushing same Halo, Gears, Forz crap out. And Nintendo can only market cartoon games and can't even figure how make proper HD games yet. Pathetic.

Are you trying to say that Sony doesn't give its customers diverse games. Uncharterd, Killzone inFAMOUS, God Of War, Little Big Planet,  Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo and closing out generation with The Last Of Us and Beyond Two Souls....you are way off point. Most Nintendo first party games are the same cartoon crap over and over.

StrongBlackVine

Trying to say? I just said it. Can't called Nintendo rehashed crap with that list of Sony's rehashed crap (that doesn't sell.)

Microsoft is the company pushing same Halo, Gears, Forz crap out. And Nintendo can only market cartoon games and can't even figure how make proper HD games yet. Pathetic.

StrongBlackVine

As is Sony, which is why each entry gets lower scores and lower sales. HD is just resolution. All of my Wii-U games run at 720p at the least. Only pathetic thing here is your jabs at Nintendo.

Lol Nintendoboy would rather have Nintendo burn and die than go third party. He compares them to SEGA as an excuse but yeah, rabbid fanboys, wow. 

sanim02

rofl DS II on consoles, rofl

Seriously, at this point it's just downright amusing. Bought the wrong system? Then whine to the publishers and hope they will feel sorry for you. The fact that there is so little worthwhile content on the Wii U that the Nintenyearolds must resort to begging to the outside forces shows just how bad things have gotten in Mario land.

Even Dark Souls is on the lowly PC. Wii U is completely irrelevant. :lol:

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

The visual quality Shadow Fall and Second Son blow away anything on Wii U, PS3 or 360 right now. That is good enough for me for launch.

StrongBlackVine

A piece of crap tablet controller can certainly make gameplay worse.

:lol:

Would be cool if it happened I suppose.  But seriously how often do online petitions work, especially for port begging?

And would it even be worth it for them to port it over?

 

As is Sony, which is why each entry gets lower scores and lower sales. HD is just resolution. All of my Wii-U games run at 720p at the least. Only pathetic thing here is your jabs at Nintendo.

ChubbyGuy40

Yeah the sales for Sony exclusives did get lower for sequels, but that happens with franchis fatigue. Only COD and Assassin's Creed seem to be immune from that. Enjoy your cartoon games at sub 1080p with poor 3rd party support playing the same games I played 20 years ago.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Yeah keep hoping the gameplay will be crappy. Both are solid AAE franchises.

ChubbyGuy40

No need to hope. It does absolutely nothing to stand out or above any other shooter on the market today. Anyone who has played any of the 3 Killzone titles knows this.

It doesn't need to stand out any more than it already does. Killzone is good for 2 to 3 million sales each release and that is fine. Resistance actually was different and it was commercial failure (well Resistance 3 was selling only 1.3 milion despite very good reviews)...shows that generic shooters are what people want.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"] So what? Visuals don't make a game betterBardock47

A piece of crap tablet controller can certainly make gameplay worse.

Any tablet that cost $80 is crap.

It doesn't need to stand out any more than it already does. Killzone is good for 2 to 3 million sales each release and that is fine. Resistance actually was different and it was commercial failure (well Resistance 3 was selling only 1.3 milion despite very good reviews)...shows that generic shooters are what people want.

StrongBlackVine

Absolutely pathetic way to rationalize sh!t gameplay. No wonder you and others alike hate Nintendo so much. They give consolites actual games. Not surprising since they know gameplay comes before all else.

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

Are you trying to say that Sony doesn't give its customers diverse games. Uncharterd, Killzone inFAMOUS, God Of War, Little Big Planet,  Heavy Rain, Gran Turismo and closing out generation with The Last Of Us and Beyond Two Souls....you are way off point. Most Nintendo first party games are the same cartoon crap over and over.

ChubbyGuy40

Trying to say? I just said it. Can't called Nintendo rehashed crap with that list of Sony's rehashed crap (that doesn't sell.)

Microsoft is the company pushing same Halo, Gears, Forz crap out. And Nintendo can only market cartoon games and can't even figure how make proper HD games yet. Pathetic.

StrongBlackVine

As is Sony, which is why each entry gets lower scores and lower sales. HD is just resolution. All of my Wii-U games run at 720p at the least. Only pathetic thing here is your jabs at Nintendo.

Uncharted - Averages over 5 million per entry

Killzone 2 - 3 million. Killzone 3 sold over 2 million

Little Big Planet - 5 million, Little Big Planet 2 - 3 million

God of War III - 4 millon +

Gran Turismo - 9 million +

Heavy Rain  - 2 million + for an extremely niche game

Resistance: Fall of Man - 4 million +, Resistance 2 - 2 million +, Resistance 3 was a failure, but still sold over a million.

Infamous 1 and 2 have sold over 4 million.

You are obviously ignorant about the sales of Sony exclusives because of failureas like Starhawk, PS All-Stars and last God of War. Overall Sony first party studios do just fine.

Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?mems_1224

Yeah I don't think most people can afford to spend $350 on console that will only have about 10 worthwhile games and that is only if you are Nintendo crazy. Sony and Microsoft are much better options.

Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?mems_1224

You are obviously ignorant about the sales of Sony exclusives because of failureas like Starhawk, PS All-Stars and last God of War. Overall Sony first party studios do just fine.

StrongBlackVine

And the sequels are still getting lower scores and lower sales. Nintendo beat those numbers combined with just one game.

Yeah the sales for Sony exclusives did get lower for sequels, but that happens with franchis fatigue. Only COD and Assassin's Creed seem to be immune from that. Enjoy your cartoon games at sub 1080p with poor 3rd party support playing the same games I played 20 years ago.

StrongBlackVine

Nope. Both have been on decline. CoD hasn't reached BO1 numbers with any sequels. You weren't alive 20 years ago so it would've been impossible for you to play these games.

Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?mems_1224

Are we really starting to question why people would want third party support for the Wii-U?

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?The_Power_of_X

Doesn't look like he's bashing the Wii U here. Just pointing out that anyone who's serious about playing games like Dark Souls (or almost anything but Nintendo games) wouldn't have a Wii U, with no other gaming console or PC available. Just like with the Wii.

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

On Friday night, Dark Souls II was announced for the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3, and PC, but not the Wii U. Now, gamers have launched an online petition at Change.org to bring the role-playing game to Nintendo's first high-definition console. It has netted 3,204 signatures thus far.

Dark Souls II will also be "more straightforward and more understandable," according to new director Tomohiro Shibuya.

apocalypsehorse

For someone with a gif of the Armoured Boar as their avatar you don't seem to know s**t.

Dark Souls II was announced at least 4 months ago, and we've known the platforms for just as long since the website was up and showing them at the bottom of the page.

Nothing was announced on friday, they reveal gameplay footage, that is not an announcement, they also did a Q&A with IGN that cleared up that they didn't actually mean easier, just to give more focus to the core concepts of the game.

"I" didn't make this report....DUMBASS IDIOT FOOL.  There is a link to the information I posted you dumbfvck, back the hell back.

Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?mems_1224

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?Timstuff

The screen in the controller could help since you can't pause in either Demon's Souls or Dark Souls so it could help managing items so you don't die when you are looking through your inventory.

I plan on getting Demon's Souls soon and Dark Souls later on.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?Nintendo_Ownes7

The screen in the controller could help since you can't pause in either Demon's Souls or Dark Souls so it could help managing items so you don't die when you are looking through your inventory.

I plan on getting Demon's Souls soon and Dark Souls later on.

Seriously, at this point it's just downright amusing. Bought the wrong system? Then whine to the publishers and hope they will feel sorry for you. The fact that there is so little worthwhile content on the Wii U that the Nintenyearolds must resort to begging to the outside forces shows just how bad things have gotten in Mario land.

Timstuff

Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?mems_1224

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="Timstuff"]That is a good question. Nintendo fans always say that it doesn't matter if Wii U has no support because they are just going to buy another console anyway, but I get the feeling that there are a lot more of them who are dedicated to just the Wii U than we may initially think. Why else would they wait until the Wii U's game drought to start port begging?MFDOOM1983

The screen in the controller could help since you can't pause in either Demon's Souls or Dark Souls so it could help managing items so you don't die when you are looking through your inventory.

I plan on getting Demon's Souls soon and Dark Souls later on.

But that is just a suggestion I've yet to play Demon's Souls or Dark Souls.

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

I would like to have as many games on the Wii U as I could so I can have an option to purchase it on the Wii U if it is better; I always have other systems but I think if I get Dark Souls II it might be for the Wii U if it is on it or I would just get the PS3 version.

 

The screen in the controller could help since you can't pause in either Demon's Souls or Dark Souls so it could help managing items so you don't die when you are looking through your inventory.

I plan on getting Demon's Souls soon and Dark Souls later on.

Nintendo_Ownes7

That's why the inventory menu is transparent. Having just the inventory on the gamepad is inherently inferior to the current setup because you couldn't see what's going on in-game. If they mirror the image with transparent inventory menus with the game running on the gamepad, too, then it'll just be a redundancy. The first example is worse and the other adds nothing. 

If you lift the controller you can still see on screen while you get your inventory so if you see an enemy you can attack it without pressing start to go back to the game.

But that is just a suggestion I've yet to play Demon's Souls or Dark Souls.

I like the idea of off-screen play which might go well if you just have to get up and do something, but you have to keep an eye on your character, obviously only within a short distance. I like the thought of Mii-verse integration that the Wii U would add, that somebody else brought up. It is also a little worrying to think about though since hints and communication within the game are vague for a reason. Also, I'm sure for quite sometime after it (theoretically) happens you'll just see "Praise the Sun" and  Sunbro pictures/messages.

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Ownes7"]

[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

That's why the inventory menu is transparent. Having just the inventory on the gamepad is inherently inferior to the current setup because you couldn't see what's going on in-game. If they mirror the image with transparent inventory menus with the game running on the gamepad, too, then it'll just be a redundancy. The first example is worse and the other adds nothing. 

TilxWLOC

If you lift the controller you can still see on screen while you get your inventory so if you see an enemy you can attack it without pressing start to go back to the game.

But that is just a suggestion I've yet to play Demon's Souls or Dark Souls.

I like the idea of off-screen play which might go well if you just have to get up and do something, but you have to keep an eye on your character, obviously only within a short distance. I like the thought of Mii-verse integration that the Wii U would add, that somebody else brought up. It is also a little worrying to think about though since hints and communication within the game are vague for a reason. Also, I'm sure for quite sometime after it (theoretically) happens you'll just see "Praise the Sun" and  Sunbro pictures/messages.

Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?

mems_1224

Game's so good it has got to be everywhere, do you know how many people bought copies for multiple systems, it actually might be worth it, even if they only do digital.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?Timstuff

Question is, If Nintendo did get all of the multiplats, would those people actually get another console?

It seems like most of the time when someone gets a Nintendo console they get another console mostly because the Nintendo console won't get most of the multiplats the other systems get. Otherwise why not have a Nintendo system as a main console?

3rd party Developers are primarily the sole reason why other people choose another console over Nintendo, and it's been like this since the N64.

[QUOTE="Timstuff"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]Why would anyone want Dark Souls on Wii U? I would hope that most people that bought a Wii U aren't using it as their primary console. :?LegatoSkyheart

Question is, If Nintendo did get all of the multiplats, would those people actually get another console?

It seems like most of the time when someone gets a Nintendo console they get another console mostly because the Nintendo console won't get most of the multiplats the other systems get. Otherwise why not have a Nintendo system as a main console?

3rd party Developers are primarily the sole reason why other people choose another console over Nintendo, and it's been like this since the N64.

[QUOTE="PurpleMan5000"]I could see the keyboard/mouse being much better for a game like this than the consoles, but otherwise, I think the tablet would probably be the best way to play.Pffrbt

Do you even know how Dark Souls plays? How would either of those make more sense than a controller?