Dark Souls is GS's GOTY: poll

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[QUOTE="Cloud567kar"]

How can you give a game a 10 if it has such framerate issues....?

Cloud567kar

10 doesn't = perfect. Every game has issues.

How does 10 not = perfect? So what if a game is perfect it gets like a 11 out of 10 waaaa?

No game is perfect..

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="mems_1224"] nothing wrong with cinematic games or shooters. just because its different doesnt make it greatmems_1224

Well, for an old school hardcore RPG gamer like me, there is everything wrong with linear games and cinematics at every corner

The problem is those said games rarely have replay value or depth to warrant you to play the game for well over 100 hours.

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Well, for an old school hardcore RPG gamer like me, there is everything wrong with linear games and cinematics at every corner

sSubZerOo

The problem is those said games rarely have replay value or depth to warrant you to play the game for well over 100 hours.

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[QUOTE="mems_1224"] you can like both...its not impossibleSquirrelTamer

The problem is those said games rarely have replay value or depth to warrant you to play the game for well over 100 hours.

Thats great but at $60 a pop? No way.. And what the hell kind of point is that? Thats like saying I would rather play a quality 100 hour game then a crappy 15 hour game.. Long games are not some how worse then shorter games in general.. That has nothing to do with the point.. What made Demon's Souls great was not the challenge imo but the openess in exploration of many of the stages along with just the sheer differences in gameplay you can have in how you build your character. thats the problem with these 15 hour games, they lack real decision making adding varience to the game and is basically having you on a interactive movie often times.. CoD singleplayer for instance is notorious for this.. Hell so is God of War series! It may be top quality but at the end of the day I am only going to play it once maybe twice.. if I am lucky a few years down I may play it again.. Instead of spending most of my time with these "blockbuster" games I find my self playing games like Terraria a basic game yet with alot of exploration and just depth in gameplay when it comes to choice.. I do hope GOTY goes to Dark Souls only that devs take a hint that they need to make their games more varied in just flat out choice and depth in decision making that could adversely effect how you play the game..

[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

Well, for an old school hardcore RPG gamer like me, there is everything wrong with linear games and cinematics at every corner

sSubZerOo

The problem is those said games rarely have replay value or depth to warrant you to play the game for well over 100 hours.

GOTY awards are completely pointless.Jandurin

Sorry but no. Uncharted 3 is gonna be Gamespot's GOTY. Period. 8)

armor has very little to do with stat builds...it's primarily rings, weapons, and stats, and armor is still pretty pointless in dark souls regardless if there's more of it. Why would they limit how a weapon could scale to balance things for PvP, but then allow a weapon such as a +5 lightning uchigatana deal 499 damage with minimal points sunk into any given stat? It's the reason you see so many lightning weapon and endurance + vitality builds as opposed to hyper builds, tanking/endurance builds, dex/dual wielding builds, faith builds, and so fourth. you can sink 50 points into dexterity with a weapon rated B in dexterity, and still deal less damage than someone with a +5 lightning uchigatana 14 in strength 14 in dexterity and base stats. That balances PvP? sure I guess if everyone uses the same weapons/setups to be able to compete....and don't forget the fog ring that they're hopefully nerfing soon. at least in PvP there's no point in having such a wide array of weapons if there's basically one weapon that's the best.

Some-Mist

They're patching the game hopefully they'll fix those OP upgrades. But just to add to your argument because of the lack of stats needed people are making new characters around level 30 and just spawning into new comers and killing them with OP upgraded weapons. So it's also used as an instrument to pick on new comers early in the game. Also because of that is the only reason someone was able to beat the game in 1hour and a Half.

Also I'll disagree with the bosses thing, Demon Souls lacked good boss fights. They were extremely easy, easier than Dark Souls bosses honestly. Demon Souls is inferior to dark souls for my taste at least. Only thing it had superior was the world tendency which also affected the NPC's inside the level. Other than that and the unbalance in equipment Dark Souls has done better. The story of Dark Souls is more interesting too.

Dark Souls isn't even a real RPG, Just a Third Person Shooter with very little ACTUAL RPG Elements.

I'll be waiting till 2012 for a REAL RPG ;)

AngryJuice

I think Skyrim is gonna get it. That or Uncharted 3.

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"] Sometimes I want great 15 hours fun like Uncharted Arach666

I say Skyrim will eat Dark Souls face.

No other game right now offers as much content as Skyrim....

Blah blah blah, It is not out yet, blah blah, opinion blah, how u no that? blah...

I say Skyrim will eat Dark Souls face.

No other game right now offers as much content as Skyrim....

http://newelderscrolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/SkyrimDragontop.jpg

Blah blah blah, It is not out yet, blah blah, opinion blah, how u no that? blah...

LORD_BLACKGULT

I doubt that with the generic areas and monsters and dull casual combat and monster leveling Skyrim will even touch DS, that has the best by far combat system, level design and monsters/bosses

Sorry but no. Uncharted 3 is gonna be Gamespot's GOTY. Period. 8)

Gue1

Not really, how can a linear casual shooter that lasts 8 hours compare to a deep, complex, challenging 200 hour (at least) RPG, that is also by miles the best of its kind in the last 10 years (and probably until DS2 arrives) ?

Not really, how can a linear casual shooter that lasts 8 hours compare to a deep, complex, challenging 200 hour (at least) RPG, that is also by miles the best of its kind in the last 10 years (and probably until DS2 arrives) ?

loosingENDS

Probably in the same way that Gears beat Oblivion in 2006?

[QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

The problem is those said games rarely have replay value or depth to warrant you to play the game for well over 100 hours.

sSubZerOo

Thats great but at $60 a pop? No way.. And what the hell kind of point is that? Thats like saying I would rather play a quality 100 hour game then a crappy 15 hour game.. Long games are not some how worse then shorter games in general.. That has nothing to do with the point.. What made Demon's Souls great was not the challenge imo but the openess in exploration of many of the stages along with just the sheer differences in gameplay you can have in how you build your character. thats the problem with these 15 hour games, they lack real decision making adding varience to the game and is basically having you on a interactive movie often times.. CoD singleplayer for instance is notorious for this.. Hell so is God of War series! It may be top quality but at the end of the day I am only going to play it once maybe twice.. if I am lucky a few years down I may play it again.. Instead of spending most of my time with these "blockbuster" games I find my self playing games like Terraria a basic game yet with alot of exploration and just depth in gameplay when it comes to choice.. I do hope GOTY goes to Dark Souls only that devs take a hint that they need to make their games more varied in just flat out choice and depth in decision making that could adversely effect how you play the game..

[QUOTE="AngryJuice"]

Dark Souls isn't even a real RPG, Just a Third Person Shooter with very little ACTUAL RPG Elements.

I'll be waiting till 2012 for a REAL RPG ;)

djsifer01

Yes I was joking. Obviously.

Skyward Sword. I think it is going to be the first real game to properly implement motion controls.

>Implying GS's GOTY isn't just the opinion of a few people

>Implying it isn't the voters GOTY choice that actually matters

lol.

Dark Souls isn't even a real RPG, Just a Third Person Shooter with very little ACTUAL RPG Elements.

I'll be waiting till 2012 for a REAL RPG ;)

AngryJuice

[QUOTE="AngryJuice"]

Dark Souls isn't even a real RPG, Just a Third Person Shooter with very little ACTUAL RPG Elements.

I'll be waiting till 2012 for a REAL RPG ;)

Bread_or_Decide

Oh well.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"][QUOTE="Badosh"] 2-3 times isn't bad. When it gets 5+ yes, it does, but by then you should know what your doing wrong and how to fix it. Dr_Snood

So do you lose interest in every game because you've died more than 5 times? Either you are consistently playing games on the easiest level, or you get frustrated way too easy. Have you ever played Ninja Gaiden, Mega Man, or DMC? Heck any game on anything other than normal? Dying 5+ times is common on any game with some challenge to it.

I doubt that with the generic areas and monsters and dull casual combat and monster leveling Skyrim will even touch DS, that has the best by far combat system, level design and monsters/bosses. Not really, how can a linear casual shooter that lasts 8 hours compare to a deep, complex, challenging 200 hour (at least) RPG, that is also by miles the best of its kind in the last 10 years (and probably until DS2 arrives) ?loosingENDS

1. Demons souls stole uncharted 2's GOTY, so u3 will win it this year. 2. Im sure a major reason it won was because it was fresh and the online component was new'ish.. now that its been done it brings nothing new to the table so i think this year will be extremely hard to pick a winner. 3. I rather give GS's other 9.5 the crown over dark soulscampzor

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]I doubt that with the generic areas and monsters and dull casual combat and monster leveling Skyrim will even touch DS, that has the best by far combat system, level design and monsters/bosses. Not really, how can a linear casual shooter that lasts 8 hours compare to a deep, complex, challenging 200 hour (at least) RPG, that is also by miles the best of its kind in the last 10 years (and probably until DS2 arrives) ?LORD_BLACKGULT

Evidently it is an upgraded Oblivion, so by default DS will be million of times better for me

[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="SquirrelTamer"] Sometimes I want great 15 hours fun like Uncharted SquirrelTamer

Evidently it is an upgraded Oblivion, so by default DS will be million of times better for meloosingENDS

But please, continue with you opinions and knowing nothing about Skyrim. Enjoy your upgraded Demon Souls.

[QUOTE="LORD_BLACKGULT"]

I say Skyrim will eat Dark Souls face.

No other game right now offers as much content as Skyrim....

http://newelderscrolls.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/SkyrimDragontop.jpg

Blah blah blah, It is not out yet, blah blah, opinion blah, how u no that? blah...

loosingENDS

I doubt that with the generic areas and monsters and dull casual combat and monster leveling Skyrim will even touch DS, that has the best by far combat system, level design and monsters/bosses

Sorry but no. Uncharted 3 is gonna be Gamespot's GOTY. Period. 8)

Gue1

Not really, how can a linear casual shooter that lasts 8 hours compare to a deep, complex, challenging 200 hour (at least) RPG, that is also by miles the best of its kind in the last 10 years (and probably until DS2 arrives) ?

With BF3 (pc)

SWTOR (pc)

Arkham City (pc)

and Skyrim (pc)

all coming very soon...Dark souls getting GOTY would just make gamespot lose the sliver of credibility they have left.

With BF3 (pc)

SWTOR (pc)

Arkham City (pc)

and Skyrim (pc)

all coming very soon...Dark souls getting GOTY would just make gamespot lose the sliver of credibility they have left.

Skreltch

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[QUOTE="LORD_BLACKGULT"]

I doubt that with the generic areas and monsters and dull casual combat and monster leveling Skyrim will even touch DS, that has the best by far combat system, level design and monsters/bosses

[QUOTE="Gue1"]

Sorry but no. Uncharted 3 is gonna be Gamespot's GOTY. Period. 8)

mems_1224

Not really, how can a linear casual shooter that lasts 8 hours compare to a deep, complex, challenging 200 hour (at least) RPG, that is also by miles the best of its kind in the last 10 years (and probably until DS2 arrives) ?

From the videos i have seen Skyrim combat and design looks only a bit less generic than in Oblivion, definatly nothing at all like Dark Souls or even close

I'm in your position TC, right now Dark Souls is my goty but Skyrim has a chance to steal it. As for gamespot, I don't think it will win. The constant framerate problems on their own could make it loose. Imo said performance issues hurt the game significantly.WithoutGraceXII

On the other hand imagine how amazing of a game they think Dark Souls is, that deserves a 9.5/10 even with the significant performance issues, when it would have normally got a 5/10 for beeing unplayable

That only means that if they did not have framerate problems, the actual game would be a 10/10 one and the best game of all time

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]Evidently it is an upgraded Oblivion, so by default DS will be million of times better for meLORD_BLACKGULT

But please, continue with you opinions and knowing nothing about Skyrim. Enjoy your upgraded Demon Souls.

All that is good on paper, but in the actual videos i see i only see a game almost exactly like Oblivion in every way, there is still boring generic combat, monsters and areas shown everywhere, with a bit better design now

It really does not look anything at all like Dark Souls combat or level and monster design

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]Evidently it is an upgraded Oblivion, so by default DS will be million of times better for meLORD_BLACKGULT

But please, continue with you opinions and knowing nothing about Skyrim. Enjoy your upgraded Demon Souls.

Just like Oblivion had radiant AI? :lol:KHAndAnime

:roll:

How many time must this thing be explained: Bethesda did not have the specs for the 360 when they began development. They ran into Radiant AI problems late in the development cycle.... They had to not only cut that out, due to limited time, they also had to scrap in-game content due to the 360 having limited disk space.

Bethesda has had 5 yearsto fix the problems with Radiant AI... You think they did not learn from all the complaining and crying? You do not think that they learned from their mistakes? 5 years is a long development cycle...

All that is good on paper, but in the actual videos i see i only see a game almost exactly like Oblivion in every way, there is still boring generic combat, monsters and areas shown everywhere, with a bit better design now

It really does not look anything at all like Dark Souls combat or level and monster design

loosingENDS

Well, opinions are opinions... Dark Souls looks like Demon Souls in almost evey way...

And really, why are you comparing a third-person RPG like Dark Souls to a first-person RPG like Skyrim? They really aren't that comparable... Skyrim is open world filled with towns, cities, over 150 hand crafted dungeons, lots of quests, factions, guilds, in adition to a main story... Suffice it be to say that Skyrim has more overall depth than Dark Souls... (not that I am saying that DS is bad, or lacks depth)

Also, have you been to any convention, like PAX? I assume you have not had the opportunity to experience Skyrim's combat first hand.

Uncharted 3 came and went...dark Souls still game of the year for gamespot...mark my words...

The big games are coming by the loads now, still I keep telling that Dark Souls WILL be gamespot's GOTY2011. Batman, Battlefield3, Uncharted3, Gears of War3, the Witcher2, Rage...some came close, but Dark Souls still stands a mile high above them, both in quality and in quantity.

So it is down to Skyrim, Haloremake and COD now. I still think Skyrim has the potential...

The big games are coming by the loads now, still I keep telling that Dark Souls WILL be gamespot's GOTY2011. Batman, Battlefield3, Uncharted3, Gears of War3, the Witcher2, Rage...some came close, but Dark Souls still stands a mile high above them, both in quality and in quantity.

So it is down to Skyrim, Haloremake and COD now. I still think Skyrim has the potential...

zekere

Skyrim does indeed, i saw some new cool videos, it is much improved over Oblivion

But i doubt will match DS brilliance

But i doubt will match DS brilliance loosingENDS

Nothing about Dark Souls is brilliant.