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Post suggestions for alternatives, for your criticisms. We need points of comparison, otherwise it's just "it's cheap" VS "it's not cheap".
Yeah the game will put insanely crappy situations and crappy ass mechanics just to piss you off.
The only game i could think that trolled you more is scarfare, you go towards a back alley the game throws 5 guys with chainsaws and a cutscene so you lose control. Then tell you to survive. Hell you could buy the best car in the world that cots 5 millions but the police cars and gang cars will still teleport down from enteprise and can outrun you in speed despite being a pile of crap and you having the best car in the world
PROBLEM PLAYER? PROBLEM
Why people even play those trollish games is beyond me, it seems to me as if the developers were troll and made them just to piss off people, there are games that are HARD and VERY HARD, but they take skill, they dont trolol you with treasue chests with traps in them.
i've never witnessed so much incompetence and ignorance in a thread before, kudos, friend.
Capra demon? Curse mechanic? the Toxic in blighttown? LMAO. Obviously a high caliber game like this is not for you, stick to call of duty please/
Curses don't stack after the first patch.
Aljosa23
I also killed Capra my second try. Just rolled up the stairs, killed the dogs and it was a series of jump stabs from there.
It's not a diffiucult game but...
Compare to a game like gears of war or uncharted which are also easy... the difference is after you learn how to play in both of those TPS games you mind can veg out and play on auto pilot.
Dark souls is easy but if you try to play without paying attention you slammed down pretty quickly. Thats why people love it so much, its not hte difficulty, its the fact that it actually engages you and forces you to put some sort of effort into playing the game.
Demons Souls was 10.000.000 times cheaper
I won the whole game by poisoning the bosses, you cant do that in Dark Souls
These games me genuinely wonder... Assume an indie company makes a game with pixelated graphic and assume the developers program it so ridiculously difficult that it's impossible to win the game, would this game be a 10/10, Game of the Generation? I think yes.
These games me genuinely wonder... Assume an indie company makes a game with pixelated graphic and assume the developers program it so ridiculously difficult that it's impossible to win the game, would this game be a 10/10, Game of the Generation? I think yes.
xWoW_Rougex
Yes.. did you not see super meatboy's scores? The graphics were just too good for it to get 10/10 though.
Exactly. It was not challenging, it was cheap. To other disagreeing posters. BTW, i beat the game twice. I now know my way around it, i meant that the game is cheap the first time around, hence why i mentioned " first time ". Is SW really so full of idiots?Yeah the game will put insanely crappy situations and crappy ass mechanics just to piss you off.
The only game i could think that trolled you more is scarfare, you go towards a back alley the game throws 5 guys with chainsaws and a cutscene so you lose control. Then tell you to survive. Hell you could buy the best car in the world that cots 5 millions but the police cars and gang cars will still teleport down from enteprise and can outrun you in speed despite being a pile of crap and you having the best car in the world
PROBLEM PLAYER? PROBLEM
Why people even play those trollish games is beyond me, it seems to me as if the developers were troll and made them just to piss off people, there are games that are HARD and VERY HARD, but they take skill, they dont trolol you with treasue chests with traps in them.
dakan45
Yeah those chests were EPIC. Fortunately some people like myself enjoy games that troll me.Yeah the game will put insanely crappy situations and crappy ass mechanics just to piss you off.
The only game i could think that trolled you more is scarfare, you go towards a back alley the game throws 5 guys with chainsaws and a cutscene so you lose control. Then tell you to survive. Hell you could buy the best car in the world that cots 5 millions but the police cars and gang cars will still teleport down from enteprise and can outrun you in speed despite being a pile of crap and you having the best car in the world
PROBLEM PLAYER? PROBLEM
Why people even play those trollish games is beyond me, it seems to me as if the developers were troll and made them just to piss off people, there are games that are HARD and VERY HARD, but they take skill, they dont trolol you with treasue chests with traps in them.
dakan45
I admit Demon's Souls was a better paced and crafted game, but Dark Souls was ambitious so you can't fault it. They've dealt with some of the cheap things, and while its still cheaper and more OHK filled then Demon's Souls, its very fun and easy to understand with a bit of time and patience.
[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]
Curses don't stack after the first patch.
SPYDER0416
I also killed Capra my second try. Just rolled up the stairs, killed the dogs and it was a series of jump stabs from there.
I KILLED IT MY FIRST TRY PROBLEM? B!TCH :pIdiot, where did say i was stuck somewhere, or that i couldnt beat the game, or that i said it was hard? Please point it out to me in my post, did you even read? READ THE TOPIC TITLE at least.... See it? " NOT HARD "i've never witnessed so much incompetence and ignorance in a thread before, kudos, friend.
Capra demon? Curse mechanic? the Toxic in blighttown? LMAO. Obviously a high caliber game like this is not for you, stick to call of duty please/
Dead-Memories
The perceived difficlty stems from the unusually methodical gameplay. Being hard is'nt what makse the game so addictive, it's having to focus on awareness and strategy above reflexes; eventhough you need those as well.
Not again, please not again. It's like every time both of these games are mentioned, bam there will be a comparison. It's like any sort of graphics thread, bam here come the hermits vs. consolites.I admit Demon's Souls was a better paced and crafted game, but Dark Souls was ambitious so you can't fault it. They've dealt with some of the cheap things, and while its still cheaper and more OHK filled then Demon's Souls, its very fun and easy to understand with a bit of time and patience.
SPYDER0416
I swear, i didnt even hint at that i was stuck in the game at the current moment, or that i am playing it. Why are people assuming i am complaining that its hard, when i said it wasnt hard, it just had cheapness. What part of " first time " didnt people understand from my post?AKA: i'm not good at a game so i'm going to complain about it.
Chris_Williams
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]Not again, please not again. It's like every time both of these games are mentioned, bam there will be a comparison. It's like any sort of graphics thread, bam here come the hermits vs. consolites.I admit Demon's Souls was a better paced and crafted game, but Dark Souls was ambitious so you can't fault it. They've dealt with some of the cheap things, and while its still cheaper and more OHK filled then Demon's Souls, its very fun and easy to understand with a bit of time and patience.
parkurtommo
Well they are both fantastic games in many ways, but I do think Dark Souls should have taken a little more from its predecessor (such as the superior server based online and better balanced early game weaponry).
It'd be wrong to say it's not a well made game, with terrific visual and audio design, but I can't imagine why people put themselves through this game. There is a thin line between challenge and frustration.
Not again, please not again. It's like every time both of these games are mentioned, bam there will be a comparison. It's like any sort of graphics thread, bam here come the hermits vs. consolites.[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
I admit Demon's Souls was a better paced and crafted game, but Dark Souls was ambitious so you can't fault it. They've dealt with some of the cheap things, and while its still cheaper and more OHK filled then Demon's Souls, its very fun and easy to understand with a bit of time and patience.
SPYDER0416
Well they are both fantastic games in many ways, but I do think Dark Souls should have taken a little more from its predecessor (such as the superior server based online and better balanced early game weaponry).
But they wanted it to be a multiplat, therefor they couldn't make a direct sequel. (because sony owns the Demon's Souls trademark I think) So they also had to change a few things.[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]I swear, i didnt even hint at that i was stuck in the game at the current moment, or that i am playing it. Why are people assuming i am complaining that its hard, when i said it wasnt hard, it just had cheapness. What part of " first time " didnt people understand from my post? its not cheap, dieing is a mechanic in the game, the cheap tricks here and there force you to be more cautious, in other words they want you to pay attention while you play instead of being able to basically hold forward and react to pretty lights.AKA: i'm not good at a game so i'm going to complain about it.
Second_Hokage
Now LOOK WHAT YOU DID with all that auto healing/aiming/blocking/whatever. Suddenly people feel the need to b1tch about challenging gameplay.
Only for some people. Well, mayhbe most :p but still I enjoyed it and fun is, at the end of the day, all that matters. I never threw my controller on the ground in both souls game unlike I did with burnout paradise for reasons I cannot recall :PIt'd be wrong to say it's not a well made game, with terrific visual and audio design, but I can't imagine why people put themselves through this game. There is a thin line between challenge and frustration.
megadeth1117
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]Not again, please not again. It's like every time both of these games are mentioned, bam there will be a comparison. It's like any sort of graphics thread, bam here come the hermits vs. consolites.parkurtommo
Well they are both fantastic games in many ways, but I do think Dark Souls should have taken a little more from its predecessor (such as the superior server based online and better balanced early game weaponry).
But they wanted it to be a multiplat, therefor they couldn't make a direct sequel. (because sony owns the Demon's Souls trademark I think) So they also had to change a few things.Fair point.
[QUOTE="SPYDER0416"][QUOTE="parkurtommo"]Not again, please not again. It's like every time both of these games are mentioned, bam there will be a comparison. It's like any sort of graphics thread, bam here come the hermits vs. consolites.parkurtommo
Well they are both fantastic games in many ways, but I do think Dark Souls should have taken a little more from its predecessor (such as the superior server based online and better balanced early game weaponry).
But they wanted it to be a multiplat, therefor they couldn't make a direct sequel. (because sony owns the Demon's Souls trademark I think) So they also had to change a few things.Well considering they even have freaking Patches from Demon's Souls making an appearance, I wouldn't say that's the reason. They own the rights to the name but I imagine the changes they made (open world, added difficulty) was a result of more ambition.
Sony says they have plans for the Demon's Souls franchise, which is nice to hear, but I'd like them to go ahead and make a sequel already with From Software involved. I haven't even beaten Dark Souls yet (I will eventually!) and I want more of the Souls games.
But they wanted it to be a multiplat, therefor they couldn't make a direct sequel. (because sony owns the Demon's Souls trademark I think) So they also had to change a few things.[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="SPYDER0416"]
Well they are both fantastic games in many ways, but I do think Dark Souls should have taken a little more from its predecessor (such as the superior server based online and better balanced early game weaponry).
SPYDER0416
Well considering they even have freaking Patches from Demon's Souls making an appearance, I wouldn't say that's the reason. They own the rights to the name but I imagine the changes they made (open world, added difficulty) was a result of more ambition.
Sony says they have plans for the Demon's Souls franchise, which is nice to hear, but I'd like them to go ahead and make a sequel already with From Software involved. I haven't even beaten Dark Souls yet (I will eventually!) and I want more of the Souls games.
So do I, and considering it's success I'm sure From will be happy to make more.I swear these Souls games are the new Majoras Mask. The darlings of the internet. Undeniably great games but thier rabid online fanbases will defend any conceivable flaw to the death while simply blaming the player complaining and making assumptions about their personal character.
well TC hasn't brought any cases of "cheap" that i've witnessed. -cursed? don't get cursed, and if you are, go and buy the cure. bring a bunch of them, preferrably. it's the same as any condition. if you have trouble with it, stack antidotes and wear armor with high resistance to it. -can't interrupt enemy attacks? i flinch them almost all the time with my greatsword, or by using the kick. -capra demon? yes, hard boss, but i don't see anything cheap about it. rule #1 of walking into fog: keep the shield raised and don't move until you have a clear view. talking specifically about capra demon, he even had a spot where you could take a breath and heal yourself, then drop down on its head, which not only did a lot of damage, but flinched it for enough time to let you gain distance -toxic in blight town? walk with your shield raised and find where you're being attacked from. and wear an armor set that raises your resistance.I swear these Souls games are the new Majoras Mask. The darlings of the internet. Undeniably great games but thier rabid online fanbases will defend any conceivable flaw to the death while simply blaming the player complaining and making assumptions about their personal character.
PSWiiU
You got my respect FANBOYS FANBOYS EVERYHWERE http://assets.diylol.com/hfs/d98/50f/ce5/resized/x-x-everywhere-meme-generator-fanboys-fanboys-everywhere-e8c38b.jpgI swear these Souls games are the new Majoras Mask. The darlings of the internet. Undeniably great games but thier rabid online fanbases will defend any conceivable flaw to the death while simply blaming the player complaining and making assumptions about their personal character.
PSWiiU
[QUOTE="Second_Hokage"]Is SW really so full of idiots?N30F3N1X
You're agreeing about Dark Souls being cheap...with a guy that has an Oblivion avatar.
The only idiot here is you.
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