December 2012 NPD (U.S Hardware) Update JD4 wii > halo 4

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#51 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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3DS beasting. Looks like it is finally ready to be the DS's successor.
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Ya but International Data Corporation (IDC) says that the PS3 sold 7 million consoles last month so there. You can even buy their report for $4,500.CanYouDiglt

Putin bought them as a Christmas gift for his friends !

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More reason MS shouldn't release a new console yet (financially speaking). 360 is just killing in US still.

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360 has been profitable for nearly around 5 years. What is this?

Your point?

No it's what's your point since you made the contraception. Look up Burdon of Analysis. You claim this is a reason for MS to not release a new console. How does that make sense if they have already been profitable. It would make more sense to release now with extra money.
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So 360 outsold the Wii U almost 3:1? Damn. That thing is going to get slaughtered when the 720/PS4 come out. 3rd party publishers are already ignoring it.

Oh, and as per usual, not a single PS3 exclusive on the list. :cool:

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#57 Thefatness16
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Good god, the Wii and DS outsold the Wii U, and it's not supply constrained. We're gonna be looking at PS3 level #'s for a while. Hoping E3 can save it.

fernandmondego_

Nintendo just did a really good job at restocking, plus they were impossible to find.

Hmm? What does this have to do with store stock. They sold less than PS3 dec 2006, and the dead Wii, and DS. That isn't good.

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More reason MS shouldn't release a new console yet (financially speaking). 360 is just killing in US still.

Chutebox

If they could manage to release a new Xbox at a $300 price point (with better hardware), and have full backwards compatibility then they could probably ride the success of the 360 straight into the next generation.

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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="DataUsageLimit"] 360 has been profitable for nearly around 5 years. What is this?DataUsageLimit
Your point?

No it's what's your point since you made the contraception. Look up Burdon of Analysis. You claim this is a reason for MS to not release a new console. How does that make sense if they have already been profitable. It would make more sense to release now with extra money.

Contraception? Am I having sex with someone?

My point was, and it's plainly in there, that they are killing all competition right now in US. Might as well keep with what's working until sales start to dwindle.

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Good god, the Wii and DS outsold the Wii U, and it's not supply constrained. We're gonna be looking at PS3 level #'s for a while. Hoping E3 can save it.

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It will only get worse next year.
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#62 fernandmondego_
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

Good god, the Wii and DS outsold the Wii U, and it's not supply constrained. We're gonna be looking at PS3 level #'s for a while. Hoping E3 can save it.

Thefatness16

Nintendo just did a really good job at restocking, plus they were impossible to find.

Hmm? What does this have to do with store stock. They sold less than PS3 dec 2006, and the dead Wii, and DS. That isn't good.

It's obvious, NPD just miscounted.
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More reason MS shouldn't release a new console yet (financially speaking). 360 is just killing in US still.

Ly_the_Fairy

If they could manage to release a new Xbox at a $300 price point (with better hardware), and have full backwards compatibility then they could probably ride the success of the 360 straight into the next generation.

Or they can do that. I don't think they'd have the same amount though since there is a 199 sku right now, right?
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"]Nintendo just did a really good job at restocking, plus they were impossible to find.fernandmondego_

Hmm? What does this have to do with store stock. They sold less than PS3 dec 2006, and the dead Wii, and DS. That isn't good.

It's obvious, NPD just miscounted.

So, I'm gonna guess you're trolling and acting like a fakeboy sheep.

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Contraception? Am I have sex with someone?Chutebox
*Having.
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Wii U has generated 3% more dollar sales than the Wii when looking at Dec vs Dec, but it is 11% for YTD.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]Contraception? Am I have sex with someone?StrongDeadlift
*Having.

Sorry, having!
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Hmm? What does this have to do with store stock. They sold less than PS3 dec 2006, and the dead Wii, and DS. That isn't good.

Thefatness16

It's obvious, NPD just miscounted.

So, I'm gonna guess you're trolling and acting like a fakeboy sheep.

It's what I've been told, I'm just making sure everyone get's the memo.
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

More reason MS shouldn't release a new console yet (financially speaking). 360 is just killing in US still.

Desmonic

If they could manage to release a new Xbox at a $300 price point (with better hardware), and have full backwards compatibility then they could probably ride the success of the 360 straight into the next generation.

I don't think either Sony or MS will release a console for just 300$. 350$-400$ are the prices we will most likely see. Of course they could always offer multiple sku's at lower price points though.

If they go higher than 350, stupid mistake for either of them.

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So my impressions: Xbox 360, I bow to thee. This is brilliant performance at retail seven friggin years after initial release. Absolutely stunning. I can't wait to see how its successor performs. 3DS is beasting. I cannot believe how well it recovered from the initial stumble. With a great lineup for this year, I want to see how the 3DS does. Wii U is a bomb. I mean, holy shiat. We're looking at a Gamecube level bomb right here unless Nintendo pulls a 3DS/PS3 and course corrects. Let's see what they have planned at E3 this year. Lol at the lack of Sony numbers on that chart.
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[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/289518495325114368

604,000>Wii U

fernandmondego_

So much for the 2.2M from VGchartz.

According to some people here Lolchartz has a very small error margin .

Just mention them on GAF and you are permabanned , and rightly so .

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More reason MS shouldn't release a new console yet (financially speaking). 360 is just killing in US still.

Chutebox
The market is down, and so is the Xbox. You don't wait to release a product right after the predecessor dies.
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

If they could manage to release a new Xbox at a $300 price point (with better hardware), and have full backwards compatibility then they could probably ride the success of the 360 straight into the next generation.

Chutebox

I don't think either Sony or MS will release a console for just 300$. 350$-400$ are the prices we will most likely see. Of course they could always offer multiple sku's at lower price points though.

If they go higher than 350, stupid mistake for either of them.

Microsoft will almost assuredly release the next Xbox at $200 with a mandatory two year Xbox LIVE contract; if you want to buy it without a contract, it might cost you as much as $600.
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[QUOTE="DataUsageLimit"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Your point?Chutebox

No it's what's your point since you made the contraception. Look up Burdon of Analysis. You claim this is a reason for MS to not release a new console. How does that make sense if they have already been profitable. It would make more sense to release now with extra money.

Contraception? Am I having sex with someone?

My point was, and it's plainly in there, that they are killing all competition right now in US. Might as well keep with what's working until sales start to dwindle.

They can double that kill with another release. Like PS1 and PS2.
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

https://twitter.com/gamasutra/status/289518495325114368

604,000>Wii U

Caseytappy

So much for the 2.2M from VGchartz.

According to some people here Lolchartz has a very small error margin .

Just mention them on GAF and you are permabanned , and rightly so .

Actually, VGchartz now has it at 2.45. There US numbers for the WiiU are about 300K off from NPD.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

More reason MS shouldn't release a new console yet (financially speaking). 360 is just killing in US still.

Stevo_the_gamer
The market is down, and so is the Xbox. You don't wait to release a product right after the predecessor dies.

Never said die. When they go down I plan on releasing it. Down doesn't mean dead or near dead.
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"] I don't think either Sony or MS will release a console for just 300$. 350$-400$ are the prices we will most likely see. Of course they could always offer multiple sku's at lower price points though.charizard1605

If they go higher than 350, stupid mistake for either of them.

Microsoft will almost assuredly release the next Xbox at $200 with a mandatory two year Xbox LIVE contract; if you want to buy it without a contract, it might cost you as much as $600.

Lol if they do that. I wouldn't touch that for anything.
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[QUOTE="Ly_the_Fairy"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

More reason MS shouldn't release a new console yet (financially speaking). 360 is just killing in US still.

Chutebox

If they could manage to release a new Xbox at a $300 price point (with better hardware), and have full backwards compatibility then they could probably ride the success of the 360 straight into the next generation.

Or they can do that. I don't think they'd have the same amount though since there is a 199 sku right now, right?

I guess that is true. I forgot about that little baby model! :P

But even still I'm sure it'd do wonders to release at $300 given the current market of Xbox domination especially if it has backwards compatibility. They could release it alongside the Xbox 360 much like the Nintendo DS/3DS.

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#81 Chutebox  Online
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[QUOTE="DataUsageLimit"] No it's what's your point since you made the contraception. Look up Burdon of Analysis. You claim this is a reason for MS to not release a new console. How does that make sense if they have already been profitable. It would make more sense to release now with extra money.DataUsageLimit

Contraception? Am I having sex with someone?

My point was, and it's plainly in there, that they are killing all competition right now in US. Might as well keep with what's working until sales start to dwindle.

They can double that kill with another release. Like PS1 and PS2.

They can, ya. Unless they screw up like Sony of course.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] If they go higher than 350, stupid mistake for either of them.Chutebox
Microsoft will almost assuredly release the next Xbox at $200 with a mandatory two year Xbox LIVE contract; if you want to buy it without a contract, it might cost you as much as $600.

Lol if they do that. I wouldn't touch that for anything.

Do you already use Xbox Live?
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Microsoft will almost assuredly release the next Xbox at $200 with a mandatory two year Xbox LIVE contract; if you want to buy it without a contract, it might cost you as much as $600.

Lol if they do that. I wouldn't touch that for anything.

Do you already use Xbox Live?

Don't have a 360, sold it long time ago.
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:lol: at those saying handheld gaming is dead
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Lol if they do that. I wouldn't touch that for anything.

Do you already use Xbox Live?

Don't have a 360, sold it long time ago.

Ah. Well, this is probably what's going to happen anyway. Bear in mind the entire venture was very successful for Microsoft when they introduced it for the 360; also remember that pretty much everyone who is an active user of their 360 has a Gold subscription. Going the contract route enables Microsoft to provide the next Xbox at an supremely cheap price and also remain profitable. From a business standpoint, it's a genius move.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] If they go higher than 350, stupid mistake for either of them.Chutebox
Microsoft will almost assuredly release the next Xbox at $200 with a mandatory two year Xbox LIVE contract; if you want to buy it without a contract, it might cost you as much as $600.

Lol if they do that. I wouldn't touch that for anything.

I respect your opinion but if they come out at 600 $ with a subscription then in all likelyhood it will be a beast ...Count me in day Fukin 1 as Heil would put it
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:lol: at those saying handheld gaming is deadShinobishyguy
It does seem to be dying if you compare the 3DS to the DS.
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:lol: at those saying handheld gaming is deadShinobishyguy
Handheld gaming is dead. Only Nintendo handhelds sell, and that too only because of the strength of their lineups. There is no niche in the market otherwise to sustain handhelds like there used to be.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Do you already use Xbox Live?charizard1605
Don't have a 360, sold it long time ago.

Ah. Well, this is probably what's going to happen anyway. Bear in mind the entire venture was very successful for Microsoft when they introduced it for the 360; also remember that pretty much everyone who is an active user of their 360 has a Gold subscription. Going the contract route enables Microsoft to provide the next Xbox at an supremely cheap price and also remain profitable. From a business standpoint, it's a genius move.

Oh, I don't doubt that at all. As a customer who knows better though, not so much. Unless they're actually selling really impressive hardware in the console.

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So WiiU is 20% off from the WII pace in the US and the gap is only going to get bigger..
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]:lol: at those saying handheld gaming is deadfernandmondego_
It does seem to be dying if you compare the 3DS to the DS.

The 3DS is outpacing the DS. Regardless, that is not a sign that handheld gaming is dying; it is. The 3DS is outpacing the DS because of the strength of its software lineups. Handheld gaming is dead, but this means nothing for Nintendo, because their handheld games make them immune from market trends.
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] Microsoft will almost assuredly release the next Xbox at $200 with a mandatory two year Xbox LIVE contract; if you want to buy it without a contract, it might cost you as much as $600.spiderluck
Lol if they do that. I wouldn't touch that for anything.

I respect your opinion but if they come out at 600 $ with a subscription then in all likelyhood it will be a beast ...Count me in day Fukin 1 as Heil would put it

No worries. I know others feel differently.

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] Don't have a 360, sold it long time ago.Chutebox

Ah. Well, this is probably what's going to happen anyway. Bear in mind the entire venture was very successful for Microsoft when they introduced it for the 360; also remember that pretty much everyone who is an active user of their 360 has a Gold subscription. Going the contract route enables Microsoft to provide the next Xbox at an supremely cheap price and also remain profitable. From a business standpoint, it's a genius move.

Oh, I don't doubt that at all. As a customer who knows better though, not so much. Unless they're actually selling really impressive hardware in the console.

With the rumored specs- which put it at the same level as a high mid to high range PC (as of right now)- I think the hardware in that thing will be brilliant, and enough to keep the system competitive for a full hardware cycle. If it is that good, and I can get it for $200? I'll bite.
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:lol: at those saying handheld gaming is deadShinobishyguy
Lol, I don't know what numbers you are looking at shinobishguy, but those numbers are dying. Nintendo fans like shinobishyguy seem to be not looking at the actual numbers, they are pretty darn bad. The world is not japan. Where the 3DS will never outsell home console in one year.
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]:lol: at those saying handheld gaming is deadcharizard1605
It does seem to be dying if you compare the 3DS to the DS.

The 3DS is outpacing the DS. Regardless, that is not a sign that handheld gaming is dying; it is. The 3DS is outpacing the DS because of the strength of its software lineups. Handheld gaming is dead, but this means nothing for Nintendo, because their handheld games make them immune from market trends.

Should have said US, in which it's not by any means.
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[QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"] It does seem to be dying if you compare the 3DS to the DS.

The 3DS is outpacing the DS. Regardless, that is not a sign that handheld gaming is dying; it is. The 3DS is outpacing the DS because of the strength of its software lineups. Handheld gaming is dead, but this means nothing for Nintendo, because their handheld games make them immune from market trends.

Should have said US, in which it's not by any means.

In the US, it is keeping pace with the DS.
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[QUOTE="Thefatness16"]

Good god, the Wii and DS outsold the Wii U, and it's not supply constrained. We're gonna be looking at PS3 level #'s for a while. Hoping E3 can save it.

StrongDeadlift

It will only get worse next year.

I just don't understand how some of you fail to at least consider some logic here.

Let's go over the facts.

Wii U Launch

Next to no advertising(WTF are they doing)

Next to no games(Except a rushed 2D Mario game that wasn't going to push systems)

No important games announced for the future(Except Pikmin which isn't a system seller)

Nintendo is doing one of two things:

1.) Rushed this launch and were so arrogant and out of touch with reality that they thought the Wii U would just sell itself like the Wii did or;

2.) They are planning a giant Marketing/Games announcing blitz to get this system rolling.

Let's face it, all of their studio's have been quiet for a very long time and the Wii hasn't seen new games and forever. They MUST have a host of games and partnerships to announce..at least I hope. If not, this system will be dead very soon.

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#98 DataUsageLimit
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The 3DS is outpacing the DS. Regardless, that is not a sign that handheld gaming is dying; it is. The 3DS is outpacing the DS because of the strength of its software lineups. Handheld gaming is dead, but this means nothing for Nintendo, because their handheld games make them immune from market trends.

Should have said US, in which it's not by any means.

In the US, it is keeping pace with the DS.

Which is bad because every other Nintendo handheld outstripped the predecessor.
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#99 fernandmondego_
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="fernandmondego_"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The 3DS is outpacing the DS. Regardless, that is not a sign that handheld gaming is dying; it is. The 3DS is outpacing the DS because of the strength of its software lineups. Handheld gaming is dead, but this means nothing for Nintendo, because their handheld games make them immune from market trends.

Should have said US, in which it's not by any means.

In the US, it is keeping pace with the DS.

Doesn't seem to be at all by NPD.
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"]

To bad the 360 is still last palce :lol:

CaseyWegner

not yet.

Why are people still worried about this stuff. When the Wii-U launched the 360 was (and probably still is ) in second place. Done deal. Bring on the next gen.