Demons Souls comes out tomorow

I'll wait for the reviews.:)

I could think of a million games that have no grinding in them.Cherokee_Jack

So it's all about grinding?

:|

Disinterest levels are approaching maximum.

i really don't get what you ppl see in that game

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]I could think of a million games that have no grinding in them.Jandurin

i really don't get what you ppl see in that game

da_illest101

And I still want to hear if our definitions of grinding are the same.Cherokee_Jack

Most roleplaying games have grinding in them. Now you might not think you are "grinding" but you are. Whether you do a mission/job that kills X amount of Y monsters or you go out and kill stuff randomly, both are grinding.darthogre

But that's not grinding. Grinding is fighting enemies for the sole purpose of levelling to ease progression in the game, not as part of a task that the game specifies.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]And I still want to hear if our definitions of grinding are the same.Jandurin

I see. I use the more general definition, which I think describes something different from your example. Level grinding in an RPG is something that can basically be set on auto-pilot. You'll gain levels for sure; it's just a matter of time, and that makes it tedius. Replaying parts in Mirror's Edge is actually honing your skills at the game, not just raising numeric stats so the game will give you an easier time of it.

[QUOTE="Pale-Folklore"]

I wish Amazon shipped this game outside the US : (

I don't think it'll be reaching retailers here.

Animal-Mother

Thanks : )

Pre-ordering now.

[QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

nah... I've had my copy for a week now.

TheCoreGamer_

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

nah... I've had my copy for a week now.

Cicatraz_ESP

[QUOTE="h575309"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] promotions and things brought the cost to 53 for the deluxe versionJandurin

Replaying parts in Mirror's Edge is actually honing your skills at the game, not just raising numeric stats so the game will give you an easier time of it.

Cherokee_Jack

So it's all about grinding?

:|

Disinterest levels are approaching maximum.

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

nah... I've had my copy for a week now.

whatisazerg

Well.... the rumors about it being hard are absolutely true, the game will not rewardyou for rushing in blindly.... you need to take your time, there is a bit of a learning curve at the beginning, getting a handle on combat takes a little while, but once you do, it works just fine.Some enemies you can spend dueling for 15 min. or more, if you don't stay on top of them when their health gets low, they enemy AI will use healing potions.... and they seem to have an infinite amount of them.

You have to be smart about combat as well. I've only got a few hours into the game. I've defeated the 1st boss, but thats it pretty much. I took a break from it for this week though, so I could play through Uncharted & Heavenly Sword b4 Uncharted 2 releases.

I'd give the game a solid 9/10.... I'm not sure if things will change much, but the game seems to focus mostly on combat, and seems quite light on story & character development.

You've got the gist of it my friend. I did however appreciate the story for what it was. It's not really fleshed out but the characters you come across have lots of......... Character and the game has a great atmosphere from start to finish.

A few pieces of advice:

Get a bow. I recommend Viscous Compound Long Bow +5 (although it takes some farming). Other good choices are Lava Bow and White Bow.

Get some magic even if you want to be a Melee fighter. Soul Arrow made Flamelurker much much easier in my first game and my current NG+

Some faith is good too. Anti Magic Field must have and Evacuate (think hearthstone if you ever played wow) is just so damn usefull.

Get a spear (many people like the Moon variety for some magic dmg which incidently is also usefull against certain high phys def mobs. I use Istarelle however). There's certainly stronger and better weapons than the spears in the game but since they're low weight and VERY usefull in tight sorroundings you may as well keep one on you. It seriously sucks when you trying to murder something in a corridor with the Meat Cleaver :)

Here is where you go for DS info and I also recommend the 2 walkthroughs on www.gamefaqs.com since the wiki did'nt help me much with initial understanding of the game concepts compared to the walkthroughs. In other words, even if you don't want to have your hand held through the game, it's a good idea to gain some knowledge about how things work.

trust me, I wish I'd have known the inner workings of world tendency before finishing half the game.

I was trying to preorder while I was out shopping over the weekend and I noticed something interesting. None of the retailers around me seem to be getting it, bestbuy no, walmart no, toysrus no. Really weirdEmperorSupreme

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I was trying to preorder while I was out shopping over the weekend and I noticed something interesting. None of the retailers around me seem to be getting it, bestbuy no, walmart no, toysrus no. Really weirdJandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I was trying to preorder while I was out shopping over the weekend and I noticed something interesting. None of the retailers around me seem to be getting it, bestbuy no, walmart no, toysrus no. Really weirdTheCoreGamer_

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]I was trying to preorder while I was out shopping over the weekend and I noticed something interesting. None of the retailers around me seem to be getting it, bestbuy no, walmart no, toysrus no. Really weirdJandurin

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] it's on wal-mart's online section not bestbuy's, though :oJandurin

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] it's on wal-mart's online section not bestbuy's, though :oJandurin

So it's all about grinding?

:|

Disinterest levels are approaching maximum.

Cherokee_Jack

Well thats what ive concluded with my short time with DS. The difficulty is kind of overblown. For example, in the first world 1-2, i died 6 times. I grinded a bit and then got through it with ease beating the boss.

EDIT: Doing the exact same thing that failed me 6 times. No strategy changes.

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

So it's all about grinding?

:|

Disinterest levels are approaching maximum.

Well thats what ive concluded with my short time with DS. The difficulty is kind of overblown. For example, in the first world 1-2, i died 6 times. I grinded a bit and then got through it with ease beating the boss.

demon souls will sell and score better than fable2

[QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Well thats what ive concluded with my short time with DS. The difficulty is kind of overblown. For example, in the first world 1-2, i died 6 times. I grinded a bit and then got through it with ease beating the boss.

nethernova

Oh. Is that how your meant to progress? i thought it was finish one world and then move onto the next etc. So i should complete all stage 1s, then 2s etc? Regardless of that, i still dont think the games nearly as hard as people say.

I've leant DS out to my friend for the rest of the week but when i get it back, il go straight to 2-1. Thanks.

[QUOTE="nethernova"][QUOTE="shutdown_202"]

Well thats what ive concluded with my short time with DS. The difficulty is kind of overblown. For example, in the first world 1-2, i died 6 times. I grinded a bit and then got through it with ease beating the boss.

Oh. Is that how your meant to progress? i thought it was finish one world and then move onto the next etc. So i should complete all stage 1s, then 2s etc? Regardless of that, i still dont think the games nearly as hard as people say.

I've leant DS out to my friend for the rest of the week but when i get it back, il go straight to 2-1. Thanks.

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"] dude why are you being so harsh. 9/10? r u serious, your playing the game for the 6th time and your going to dock it a point? 10/10 in your books by the sound of it.zarshack

A game where you simply go through a linear path I do not consider a grind. For example, Killzone 2 single player.. you just go from one stage to the next. Even if you should die it is just a part of the game. You learn from your mistakes and try again (with no benefits, meaning the in game character does not change). That is not a grind, as the other person stated with Mirror's Edge.Stylishly

^ WOW that argument about grinding is dumb.

Anyways I'm rushing to the store to get this, I hope I can get a copy.

^ WOW that argument about grinding is dumb.

Anyways I'm rushing to the store to get this, I hope I can get a copy.

^ WOW that argument about grinding is dumb.

Anyways I'm rushing to the store to get this, I hope I can get a copy.

Jfisch93

^ WOW that argument about grinding is dumb.

Anyways I'm rushing to the store to get this, I hope I can get a copy.

^ WOW that argument about grinding is dumb.

Anyways I'm rushing to the store to get this, I hope I can get a copy.

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I don't think it's going to be a HOT seller. Im sure you'll find a copyJandurin

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Replaying parts in Mirror's Edge is actually honing your skills at the game, not just raising numeric stats so the game will give you an easier time of it.

Jandurin

Seeing some comments in this thread it seems like there's some kind of significant life lesson to be learned in this game. Now I'm really interested.

Replaying parts in Mirror's Edge is actually honing your skills at the game, not just raising numeric stats so the game will give you an easier time of it.

I just wanted to say. you do NOT need to grind to finish this game.

If in Mirror's Edge, you could sit there jumping over the exact same gap 50 times and then suddenly be able to jump higher, then it would be the same thing.Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]If in Mirror's Edge, you could sit there jumping over the exact same gap 50 times and then suddenly be able to jump higher, then it would be the same thing.Jandurin

^ WOW that argument about grinding is dumb.

Anyways I'm rushing to the store to get this, I hope I can get a copy.

Jfisch93

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]If in Mirror's Edge, you could sit there jumping over the exact same gap 50 times and then suddenly be able to jump higher, then it would be the same thing.Cherokee_Jack

demon souls will sell and score better than fable2

_SWAG_

DS will probably score better..but I wouldnt be too sure about the game selling better..this is a Niche title through and through,I don't see this game appealing to the american mainstream.considering they will be turned off by the difficulty...Me Personally,I've had the game since July,and I think it's stellar.I would love to see this game be a top-seller,but I live in the real world.

[QUOTE="TheCoreGamer_"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I don't think it's going to be a HOT seller. Im sure you'll find a copyJandurin

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"]

Replaying parts in Mirror's Edge is actually honing your skills at the game, not just raising numeric stats so the game will give you an easier time of it.

Cherokee_Jack

[QUOTE="Cherokee_Jack"][QUOTE="Jandurin"] but, in ME, jumping the same gap 50 times might give you the ability to jump a larger gap due to a better grasp on distances and edges and speed =0Jandurin