Demon's Souls is the best new IP to come out this generation

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#102 pc-ps360
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It came out in 2009 when gaming was pretty much all about shooters, it was a breath of fresh air and was an extremely risky IP to release in the states. Demon's Souls shattered sales expectations selling over a million units when it was initially expected to sell less than 100k. The RPG received critical acclaim, winning GOTY 2009 at Gamespot and scoring a 9.4 on IGN. It's also exclusive to the Sony Playstation 3 and runs at a native 720p with an exceptional art style and has a tremendous amount of depth and replayability.

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its a great game but dark souls the sequel is better in every way.

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#103 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

The whole internet is full of news about Skyrim beeing unplayable on PS3 LOL

Talking about who is blind

loosingENDS

Lol really now I have friends who are saying it's a lot better now on PS3...Oh wait like another user just said the PC ver.Trashes both PS3 and 360 ver.


No matter how many PS3 trolls say it is now better on PS3, the whole internet says it still plays and looks best on 360

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327940/skyrim-ps3-lag-still-an-issue-before-and-after-patch-comparison-video/

"Skyrim PS3 lag 'still an issue' - before and after patch comparison video

Does your game still look like a Nordic slideshow?"

..

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

"Overall it's clearly disappointing that these performance issues persist on PS3 even after patch "

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LOL LOL The "superior" PS3 LOL, what a garbage hardware

Also still looks like a blurry garbage on PS3, like a PS1 game or worst

Looks like the ps3 version has better AA in those screenshots. And at least in my copy of Skyrim on ps3 I have no framerate issues.
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#104 loosingENDS
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[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

[QUOTE="Promised_Trini"]

Lol really now I have friends who are saying it's a lot better now on PS3...Oh wait like another user just said the PC ver.Trashes both PS3 and 360 ver.

parkurtommo

No matter how many PS3 trolls say it is now better on PS3, the whole internet says it still plays and looks best on 360

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/327940/skyrim-ps3-lag-still-an-issue-before-and-after-patch-comparison-video/

"Skyrim PS3 lag 'still an issue' - before and after patch comparison video

Does your game still look like a Nordic slideshow?"

..

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-vs-ps3-skyrim-lag

"Overall it's clearly disappointing that these performance issues persist on PS3 even after patch "

..

LOL LOL The "superior" PS3 LOL, what a garbage hardware

Also still looks like a blurry garbage on PS3, like a PS1 game or worst

Looks like the ps3 version has better AA in those screenshots. And at least in my copy of Skyrim on ps3 I have no framerate issues.

Sure it has better AA, if by AA you mean a blurry mess image where all detail is lost and looks no better than a PS1 game

Any game can have that kind of "AA"

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#105 themajormayor
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Yes it is indeed.
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#106 Blabadon
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After beating 1-1, the game keeps kicking my ass! :cry: Best IP? From what I've played, Gears, Uncharted, Mass Effect, and plenty of other games have given me more enjoyment.
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#107 llxenogearsll
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i agree, i loved demons souls, and i just finished dark souls and everything about that game blew me away, from software are masters in level design

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#108 llxenogearsll
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i agree, i loved demons souls, and i just finished dark souls and everything about that game blew me away, from software are masters in level design

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#109 DraugenCP
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Stalker says hi.

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#110 llxenogearsll
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i agree, i loved demons souls, and i just finished dark souls which blew me away, from software are masters in level design

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[QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"] Demons Souls (dedicated servers) > Dark Souls (p2p) /debate Also DeS GOTY. Don't be jelly now. :cool:

Servers don't make a game better. Gameplay, content, story, characters... those things make a game better.

Even more reasons why Demon's Souls is much better
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#112 llxenogearsll
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i agree, i loved demons souls, and i just finished dark souls which blew me away, from software are masters in level design

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#113 FIipMode
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Uncharted, Bioshock, and the Arkham series even though I know it's not really a new IP.
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#114 themajormayor
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Regarding Dark Souls Digital Foundry said:

"For the deciding vote, it's close enough for us to recommend either controller preference or the PS3 version's larger range of supported audio formats as more crucial points for consideration."

Superior PS3 version confirmed. It's pretty much a PS3 exclusive.

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#115 GD1551
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Definitely not, it's not even one of my favourite new IPs. I love the setting but I hate the slow gameplay.

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#116 HoolaHoopMan
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I vastly prefer Dark Souls. Having dedicated servers doesn't negate all the improvements to the over all game.
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#117 SecretPolice
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Mass Effect & Gears are both new, AAA franchises so I'll go with them. :P

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#118 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Blabadon"]After beating 1-1, the game keeps kicking my ass! :cry: Best IP? From what I've played, Gears, Uncharted, Mass Effect, and plenty of other games have given me more enjoyment.

No no You must defeat it several times to really appreciate it, then you will be enlightened.
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I vastly prefer Dark Souls. Having dedicated servers doesn't negate all the improvements to the over all game. HoolaHoopMan
What improvements?
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#120 speedfreak48t5p
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Don't like RPG's, so I disagree 100% with your statement. But I do have several altenatives:

Saint's Row

Portal

Dirt

Left 4 Dead

Rock Band

Gears of War

Crysis

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#121 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Zeviander"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"] Demons Souls (dedicated servers) > Dark Souls (p2p) /debate Also DeS GOTY. Don't be jelly now. :cool:

Servers don't make a game better. Gameplay, content, story, characters... those things make a game better.

Even more reasons why Demon's Souls is much better

Dark Souls has more gameplay, more weapons/armor, more characters, more classes, more variety. The variety was a huge difference, Demon's Souls was gray, green, and brown, where as Dark Souls is orange, green, blue, black, red, brown, eveything.
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#122 Pray_to_me
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Between the Souls Uncharted and Mass Effect for me.

I got Demon Souls and Uncharted 2 in the same month. Man that was gaming Nirvana.

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Played about an hour and haven't gone back to it since.
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#124 locopatho
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Nope, that was Mass Effect :)
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="Zeviander"] Servers don't make a game better. Gameplay, content, story, characters... those things make a game better.parkurtommo
Even more reasons why Demon's Souls is much better

Dark Souls has more gameplay, more weapons/armor, more characters, more classes, more variety. The variety was a huge difference, Demon's Souls was gray, green, and brown, where as Dark Souls is orange, green, blue, black, red, brown, eveything.

More...gameplay??

And even though you are not even correct in all you say (there are an equal amount of classes for example) all these are really small insignificant improvements. Demon's Souls already had lots of weapons and armors. Sure a few more doesn't hurt but it's nothing that matter much at all. Did anyone ever play Demon's Souls and think "oh no, not enough weapons". I got far from every weapon in the gam and I had quiete a few.

They are improvements yes, but small, insignificant and SHALLOW improvements, that can't compensate for every downgrade that happened!

This isn't super mario. It's suppose to be dark and gloomy with this post-apocalyptic feel. All this was missing in Dark Souls.

It has huge balancing issues. For example the ice guys in Duke's Archive giving you 150 souls but the easiest guy's in the Undead Asylum gives you 200!

Also bad bonfire placement in many cases.

Also my biggest problem with Demon's Souls only got WORSE! The FPS was worse and the lock on was worse!

But the biggest problem of all and what was probably the cause of all these problems is that they only focused on being HARD! Hard for the sake of being hard. Because that was what Demon's Souls was famous for. So they completely lost focus on everything that was imporatant and only focused on being as hard as possible! Now they failed cause it's not hard. But it lead to alot of unfairness! Demon's Souls was strict but fair. But this is NOT fair in many cases. Alot of cheapness. Sometimes even broken "hard".

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#126 Inotian
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Wasn't a huge fan of it, though I think that's due to the gameplay.

I still believe Uncharted is the best IP this gen, right next to LBP of course.

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#127 trollop_scat
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Agree with TC, Demons Souls was not only the best new IP of this gen, but the best overall game of this gen. Skyrim is up there but Demons Souls multiplayer puts it over the top for me. Was disappointed in Dark Souls though, Demons was WAY better...

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#128 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] Even more reasons why Demon's Souls is much betterthemajormayor

Dark Souls has more gameplay, more weapons/armor, more characters, more classes, more variety. The variety was a huge difference, Demon's Souls was gray, green, and brown, where as Dark Souls is orange, green, blue, black, red, brown, eveything.

More...gameplay??

And even though you are not even correct in all you say (there are an equal amount of classes for example) all these are really small insignificant improvements. Demon's Souls already had lots of weapons and armors. Sure a few more doesn't hurt but it's nothing that matter much at all. Did anyone ever play Demon's Souls and think "oh no, not enough weapons". I got far from every weapon in the gam and I had quiete a few.

They are improvements yes, but small, insignificant and SHALLOW improvements, that can't compensate for every downgrade that happened!

This isn't super mario. It's suppose to be dark and gloomy with this post-apocalyptic feel. All this was missing in Dark Souls.

It has huge balancing issues. For example the ice guys in Duke's Archive giving you 150 souls but the easiest guy's in the Undead Asylum gives you 200!

Also bad bonfire placement in many cases.

Also my biggest problem with Demon's Souls only got WORSE! The FPS was worse and the lock on was worse!

But the biggest problem of all and what was probably the cause of all these problems is that they only focused on being HARD! Hard for the sake of being hard. Because that was what Demon's Souls was famous for. So they completely lost focus on everything that was imporatant and only focused on being as hard as possible! Now they failed cause it's not hard. But it lead to alot of unfairness! Demon's Souls was strict but fair. But this is NOT fair in many cases. Alot of cheapness. Sometimes even broken "hard".

I thought there weren't enough weapons... The only significantly usefull greatsword was the dragon bone smasher. There were only like 4 or 5 heavy armor sets and a few other light armor sets where as Dark Souls has like 10 heavy armor sets maybe more and a ton of other ones. I think you're just butthurt because it isn't exclusive anymore. I enjoyed both games a lot, but I don't think there's a major difference in quality and if there is, it's in favor of Dark Souls.
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#129 captainqwark20
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The worst games this genration with only one gimmick that got them their popularity in the first place and now they are considered the best Ips of all time? What about the Last of Us? Uncharted? Killzone? Re- ok not resistance, Little Big planet? Warhawk? Hello guys have you even played Starhawk?
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#130 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Buggy, cheap, low performance, inconsistent online experiance. hell no.
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#131 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="captainqwark20"]The worst games this genration with only one gimmick that got them their popularity in the first place and now they are considered the best Ips of all time? What about the Last of Us? Uncharted? Killzone? Re- ok not resistance, Little Big planet? Warhawk? Hello guys have you even played Starhawk?

2nd best new ip is Red Dead redemption :p Those games you mentioned, maybe 20th or 100th best new ips.
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#132 kuraimen
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Played about an hour and haven't gone back to it since.Stevo_the_gamer
The game is not for noobs
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#133 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

[QUOTE="parkurtommo"] Dark Souls has more gameplay, more weapons/armor, more characters, more classes, more variety. The variety was a huge difference, Demon's Souls was gray, green, and brown, where as Dark Souls is orange, green, blue, black, red, brown, eveything.parkurtommo

More...gameplay??

And even though you are not even correct in all you say (there are an equal amount of classes for example) all these are really small insignificant improvements. Demon's Souls already had lots of weapons and armors. Sure a few more doesn't hurt but it's nothing that matter much at all. Did anyone ever play Demon's Souls and think "oh no, not enough weapons". I got far from every weapon in the gam and I had quiete a few.

They are improvements yes, but small, insignificant and SHALLOW improvements, that can't compensate for every downgrade that happened!

This isn't super mario. It's suppose to be dark and gloomy with this post-apocalyptic feel. All this was missing in Dark Souls.

It has huge balancing issues. For example the ice guys in Duke's Archive giving you 150 souls but the easiest guy's in the Undead Asylum gives you 200!

Also bad bonfire placement in many cases.

Also my biggest problem with Demon's Souls only got WORSE! The FPS was worse and the lock on was worse!

But the biggest problem of all and what was probably the cause of all these problems is that they only focused on being HARD! Hard for the sake of being hard. Because that was what Demon's Souls was famous for. So they completely lost focus on everything that was imporatant and only focused on being as hard as possible! Now they failed cause it's not hard. But it lead to alot of unfairness! Demon's Souls was strict but fair. But this is NOT fair in many cases. Alot of cheapness. Sometimes even broken "hard".

I thought there weren't enough weapons... The only significantly usefull greatsword was the dragon bone smasher. There were only like 4 or 5 heavy armor sets and a few other light armor sets where as Dark Souls has like 10 heavy armor sets maybe more and a ton of other ones. I think you're just butthurt because it isn't exclusive anymore. I enjoyed both games a lot, but I don't think there's a major difference in quality and if there is, it's in favor of Dark Souls.

Huh? Didn't you ever get soulbrandt or demonbrandt or its combination northern regalia? Or Claymore or Flamberger?

And Demon's Souls has about 20 armor sets. That is quiete sufficent even though, as I said, more wouldn't hurt. It never does.

So instead of responding to any of my arguments you resort to insults? :roll: It is confirmed then, Demon's Souls>>>>>>>>Dark Souls.

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#134 Bazooka_4ME
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At least mentioned the right 'Souls' game bcuz Dark was too easy and glitchable. Demon's Souls and Red Dead Redemption for me
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#135 Swift_Boss_A
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It certainly is for me. Such an awesome game, started my 3rd playthrough this week.

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[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I vastly prefer Dark Souls. Having dedicated servers doesn't negate all the improvements to the over all game. themajormayor
What improvements?

Level design, enemy design, Bosses, lore, weapons, armor, combat, poise, covenants etc. The only thing Demon's Souls can lay claim to is dedicated servers. You're looking back at it with rose tinted glasses.
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#137 SolidCLOUD_
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[QUOTE="SolidCLOUD_"]Getting ahead of ourselves is fun, I guess.UXO13
2 posts related to it being "too" early to say something like this. Listen. Im a nice guy. I see you're new...so I'll give you some good info. Every time you visit SW, someone will have a new "best game this gen" thread. Many times, said game isnt even out. Everyone knows more games are coming and the gen isnt over. Blurry console graphics look better than the eye irritating sharpness of PC graphics. Every poster has huge financial investments in their favorite game company. And, even if they say they have the best games or the most games or whatever, rather than PLAYING them theyre going to comb Google for an article written in hieroglyphics about how bad another company is doing. Even though they're probably fun people Id have a good conversation with at the pub, for whatever reason anyone with a Nathan Drake avatar seems to have the most delusional opinions. PC gaming, with an introduction cost of at least $3000, is dying. Sales or ratings do NOT matter. Unless they support your opinion. $60 a year to play online, while indeed a shameful rip off, is worse than watching your family being tortured as you helplessly lay on the floor with a gun pressed against your skull. Regardless of what anyone tells you, I assure you Diablo 3 did not meet the hype. There. Think that covers the basics.

:O... so not being realistic is being realistic?
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#138 savagetwinkie
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[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"]

uncharted? Mass effect? Assassin's Creed? lmfaoo those games could never hold a candle to the perfection of Demons' Souls. They are more like B-grade backburner series in comparison.

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more like Grade A blockbuster titles. a niche game that is not accessible is not perfect or good.

Real games are capable of challenging players through an interactive medium, uncharted / mass effect / assasin's cr eed are closer to interactive movies where DS went back to what makes gaming so special, it challenges players to overcome obsticles
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#139 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="Bazooka_4ME"]At least mentioned the right 'Souls' game bcuz Dark was too easy and glitchable. Demon's Souls and Red Dead Redemption for me

Most of the glitches were fixed with the patch.
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I have to say Mass Effect and Uncharted are the best new IP's this gen.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I vastly prefer Dark Souls. Having dedicated servers doesn't negate all the improvements to the over all game. HoolaHoopMan
What improvements?

Level design, enemy design, Bosses, lore, weapons, armor, combat, poise, covenants etc. The only thing Demon's Souls can lay claim to is dedicated servers. You're looking back at it with rose tinted glasses.

Eh none of that was an improvement. At all. Just listing some words doesn't mean anything. I don't look back at them with any different views since I played them pretty much in the same time. Demon's Souls was simply better. I have already said why in a very long post itt.
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#142 parkurtommo
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] What improvements?

Level design, enemy design, Bosses, lore, weapons, armor, combat, poise, covenants etc. The only thing Demon's Souls can lay claim to is dedicated servers. You're looking back at it with rose tinted glasses.

Eh none of that was an improvement. At all. Just listing some words doesn't mean anything. I don't look back at them with any different views since I played them pretty much in the same time. Demon's Souls was simply better. I have already said why in a very long post itt.

Did you even play Dark Souls? I've already told you that there ARE MORE WEAPONS, ARMOR SETS, AND SPELLS just deal with it... You seem to think that this isn't true...
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#143 HoolaHoopMan
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[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] What improvements?

Level design, enemy design, Bosses, lore, weapons, armor, combat, poise, covenants etc. The only thing Demon's Souls can lay claim to is dedicated servers. You're looking back at it with rose tinted glasses.

Eh none of that was an improvement. At all. Just listing some words doesn't mean anything. I don't look back at them with any different views since I played them pretty much in the same time. Demon's Souls was simply better. I have already said why in a very long post itt.

The world design wasn't an improvement? Are you high?
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#144 GamerwillzPS
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nope, mass effect or assassin's creedmems_1224

Damn man, your standards are so low that I could trip over it!

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Well see the thing is the Souls series is racist, and there's a very logical and scientific explanation for this: Dark Souls was called "Dark souls" because the majority of the 360's fanbase that's not kids are african american. Which is why all gangster game sell more on the 360, and that tricked people into buying the 360 version. would also like to at Demonsouls was bundled only with white PS3's, and even in japan, Darksouls was only bundled with white PS3's. The problem is the games are racists, and that's a fact. Imo.
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#146 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="captainqwark20"]Well see the thing is the Souls series is racist, and there's a very logical and scientific explanation for this: Dark Souls was called "Dark souls" because the majority of the 360's fanbase that's not kids are african american. Which is why all gangster game sell more on the 360, and that tricked people into buying the 360 version. would also like to at Demonsouls was bundled only with white PS3's, and even in japan, Darksouls was only bundled with white PS3's. The problem is the games are racists, and that's a fact. Imo.

There is your problem.
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#147 captainqwark20
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="captainqwark20"]Well see the thing is the Souls series is racist, and there's a very logical and scientific explanation for this: Dark Souls was called "Dark souls" because the majority of the 360's fanbase that's not kids are african american. Which is why all gangster game sell more on the 360, and that tricked people into buying the 360 version. would also like to at Demonsouls was bundled only with white PS3's, and even in japan, Darksouls was only bundled with white PS3's. The problem is the games are racists, and that's a fact. Imo.

There is your problem.

Iodine Motion-rising Ointment, learn to read. I said that to prescript it for your butthurt. The FACT is fully that the series is teh racist. More is that Darksouls is tinted in black, why was Demons Souls not tinted in black? Racist.
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#148 MonsieurX
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[QUOTE="captainqwark20"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="captainqwark20"]Well see the thing is the Souls series is racist, and there's a very logical and scientific explanation for this: Dark Souls was called "Dark souls" because the majority of the 360's fanbase that's not kids are african american. Which is why all gangster game sell more on the 360, and that tricked people into buying the 360 version. would also like to at Demonsouls was bundled only with white PS3's, and even in japan, Darksouls was only bundled with white PS3's. The problem is the games are racists, and that's a fact. Imo.

There is your problem.

Iodine Motion-rising Ointment, learn to read. I said that to prescript it for your butthurt. The FACT is fully that the series is teh racist. More is that Darksouls is tinted in black, why was Demons Souls not tinted in black? Racist.

0/10. Learn the troll basics then come back please
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#149 captainqwark20
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[QUOTE="MonsieurX"][QUOTE="captainqwark20"][QUOTE="MonsieurX"] There is your problem.

Iodine Motion-rising Ointment, learn to read. I said that to prescript it for your butthurt. The FACT is fully that the series is teh racist. More is that Darksouls is tinted in black, why was Demons Souls not tinted in black? Racist.

0/10. Learn the troll basics then come back please

See, as a supporter for zionism it's clear you have a very racist mind and do not see the danger that the game will cause. People will be shooting people over this soon, do you even care?!
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[QUOTE="parkurtommo"][QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"] Level design, enemy design, Bosses, lore, weapons, armor, combat, poise, covenants etc. The only thing Demon's Souls can lay claim to is dedicated servers. You're looking back at it with rose tinted glasses.

Eh none of that was an improvement. At all. Just listing some words doesn't mean anything. I don't look back at them with any different views since I played them pretty much in the same time. Demon's Souls was simply better. I have already said why in a very long post itt.

Did you even play Dark Souls? I've already told you that there ARE MORE WEAPONS, ARMOR SETS, AND SPELLS just deal with it... You seem to think that this isn't true...

I know there is... I even said it myself that those additions are a small advantage to Dark Souls.