Despite MS's awful E3, it doesn't matter. Realistically, they have 2010 in a bag

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#51 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="v13_KiiLtz"][QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"] Proof of this worldwide domination?ProjectNatalFan

Did you forget? Lems think NPD = Worldwide

oh Lems know we are kicking PS3 tail in the Number 1 market

Too bad the PS3 outsold the 360 by 3 million units last year according to their (Sony & Microsoft's reports) and the 360 outsold the PS3 in the "Number 1 Market" for most of last year as well. Your Number 1 market means only such much in the big picture when all markets are considered.
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I would rather play the games and not the sales, but in terms of sales there is GT5KevinButlerVP
GT5 sales will probably be a huge disappointment... the game will be good, but I see it selling very poorly compared to past installments...
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#53 bigboss5ak
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="FIipMode"] The 360 and Ps3 are doing good, it's just that the Wii is doing better than both, how is that hiding? The better question is why are you excluding the Wii when it matters in the sales discussion as much as the other two?Indie_Hitman
Everyone excludes the wii its just become the way of things. Not that it really matters because the 360 has been outselling the wii as well. Wii sales has been on the decline but its upcoming list of software seems good

Proof of this worldwide domination?

Its really just common sense, the 360 in the u.k has a 1000% increase so we know its out selling ps3 there. The difference between the sales in this past NPD was about 270k. And taking japan into account whatever differences the ps3 and 360 have there wouldnt be enough for the ps3 to even be close.
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#54 FlamesOfGrey
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[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I would rather play the games and not the sales, but in terms of sales there is GT567gt500
GT5 sales will probably be a huge disappointment... the game will be good, but I see it selling very poorly compared to past installments...

GT5 Prologue is over 5 Million so, I personally disagree. It won't be a quick 10 million+ seller like Halo: Reach but like all GT games before this generation is over I expect it to reach close to that 10 million mark the series is known for.
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#55 omho88
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Kinect !!!!!

Halo reach is the only seller MS has, a huge one but imo it won't sell systems, the slim effect is regressing. Overall MS did good despite their aweful E3, but TC sounds over optimistic.

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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]In the bag? If you ignore the Wii? Possibly.savebattery
You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3. As for any good wii software....lets not even get into that convo

Donkey Kong Country Returns, Sonic Colors, Metroid: Other M, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wii Party, GoldenEye 007. Like them or not, those games are all going to sell over a million copies. And they're all coming out between August and December.

I always feel so bad for fanboys that try to act like Nintendo will not outsell the Ps3 or 360 in games and Consoles. Anyone forget that NSMB wii is at 15 million plus in less than a year? Donkey Kong Country will sell millions instantly as well it will not even be funny. I love the 360 but the tc is best off ignoring the wii becuase the 360 does not stand a chance of outselling it year on year.

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#57 bigboss5ak
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[QUOTE="67gt500"][QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"]I would rather play the games and not the sales, but in terms of sales there is GT5FlamesOfGrey
GT5 sales will probably be a huge disappointment... the game will be good, but I see it selling very poorly compared to past installments...

GT5 Prologue is over 5 Million so, I personally disagree. It won't be a quick 10 million+ seller like Halo: Reach but like all GT games before this generation is over I expect it to reach close to that 10 million mark the series is known for.

Whenever i see a post like this its like i can see the damage control already. Its like cows are setting up the excuse for the poor sales GT5 will have. I can see posts already like "well lets give it another 2 years, or 3 years, or 4 years" so when you say long legs just about how many years after its release do you mean??

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#58 bigboss5ak
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

Kinect !!!!!

Halo reach is the only seller MS has, a huge one but imo it won't sell systems, the slim effect is regressing. Overall MS did good despite their aweful E3, but TC sounds over optimistic.

The slim effect is regressing?? MS sold more 360s this month than last month where is the regress??
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#59 mojito1988
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Do people on this site relly think that the 360 has outsold the wii worldwide this year? thats funny it really is not even that close. The Wii is far far ahead sorry to burst bubbles. (i think people tend to forget that in the first half of this year the Wii got a very large lead something that the 360 will not be able to catch up on. And parents like to buy thier kids systems and we all know how hollidays go for Nintendo with sales.

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="67gt500"] GT5 sales will probably be a huge disappointment... the game will be good, but I see it selling very poorly compared to past installments...bigboss5ak

GT5 Prologue is over 5 Million so, I personally disagree. It won't be a quick 10 million+ seller like Halo: Reach but like all GT games before this generation is over I expect it to reach close to that 10 million mark the series is known for.

Whenever i see a post like this its like i can see the damage control already. Its like cows are setting up the excuse for the poor sales GT5 will have. I can see posts already like "well lets give it another 2 years, or 3 years, or 4 years" so when you say long legs just about how many years after its release do you mean??

Uh no. Most if not all GT games have sold 10 million+ over time and not instantly like Halo / Mario / COD so, go and learn about the series sales before you claim damage control. I am not a GT fan but the series does what it does.
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#61 stiggy321
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"]

GT5 Prologue is over 5 Million so, I personally disagree. It won't be a quick 10 million+ seller like Halo: Reach but like all GT games before this generation is over I expect it to reach close to that 10 million mark the series is known for.FlamesOfGrey
Whenever i see a post like this its like i can see the damage control already. Its like cows are setting up the excuse for the poor sales GT5 will have. I can see posts already like "well lets give it another 2 years, or 3 years, or 4 years" so when you say long legs just about how many years after its release do you mean??

Uh no. Most if not all GT games have sold 10 million+ over time and not instantly like Halo / Mario / COD so, go and learn about the series sales before you claim damage control. I am not a GT fan but the series does what it does.

Reach won't sell 10 million. It won't even sell 5 million. Aren't a lot of the new 360 sales actually from people trading in their old 360's? I don't think they're selling that many new units every month.
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="omho88"]

Kinect !!!!!

Halo reach is the only seller MS has, a huge one but imo it won't sell systems, the slim effect is regressing. Overall MS did good despite their aweful E3, but TC sounds over optimistic.

The slim effect is regressing?? MS sold more 360s this month than last month where is the regress??

First, we don't have august's numbers yet, so you mean last month vs two months ago. Second, the slim was introduced 1/2 way through june so it's sales boost only really affected 1/2 the month.
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="67gt500"] GT5 sales will probably be a huge disappointment... the game will be good, but I see it selling very poorly compared to past installments...bigboss5ak

GT5 Prologue is over 5 Million so, I personally disagree. It won't be a quick 10 million+ seller like Halo: Reach but like all GT games before this generation is over I expect it to reach close to that 10 million mark the series is known for.

Whenever i see a post like this its like i can see the damage control already. Its like cows are setting up the excuse for the poor sales GT5 will have. I can see posts already like "well lets give it another 2 years, or 3 years, or 4 years" so when you say long legs just about how many years after its release do you mean??

It's DC, are you serious? It's a fact. Sales don't stop after the first month, they keep going and going and going. It's common sense.
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#64 Chutebox
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="omho88"]

Kinect !!!!!

Halo reach is the only seller MS has, a huge one but imo it won't sell systems, the slim effect is regressing. Overall MS did good despite their aweful E3, but TC sounds over optimistic.

The slim effect is regressing?? MS sold more 360s this month than last month where is the regress??

Do yourself a favor and look two things up. When the slim hit the streets. The lack of hardware MS had during the launch. There you go, lesson over.
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]In the bag? If you ignore the Wii? Possibly.bigboss5ak
You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3. As for any good wii software....lets not even get into that convo

they outsold the wii in NA for ne month...lets not get carried away here

if you ignore the wii the 360 is looking pretty good

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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] Whenever i see a post like this its like i can see the damage control already. Its like cows are setting up the excuse for the poor sales GT5 will have. I can see posts already like "well lets give it another 2 years, or 3 years, or 4 years" so when you say long legs just about how many years after its release do you mean??

stiggy321

Uh no. Most if not all GT games have sold 10 million+ over time and not instantly like Halo / Mario / COD so, go and learn about the series sales before you claim damage control. I am not a GT fan but the series does what it does.

Reach won't sell 10 million. It won't even sell 5 million. Aren't a lot of the new 360 sales actually from people trading in their old 360's? I don't think they're selling that many new units every month.

LMAO! It won't even sell 5? It will sell 2.5 in 24 hours! And it will not only sell 5; but it will sell over 10.

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#67 Silverbond
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You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3bigboss5ak

Because, as we all know, the year doesn't actually start until after E3.

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#68 Warriorboy1990
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What exclusives does the 360 have coming out in 2010 besides Reach?

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#69 KaoSXFACTOR
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What exclusives does the 360 have coming out in 2010 besides Reach?

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Cause all we do is play the exclusives game!

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#70 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] Everyone excludes the wii its just become the way of things. Not that it really matters because the 360 has been outselling the wii as well. Wii sales has been on the decline but its upcoming list of software seems goodbigboss5ak
Proof of this worldwide domination?

Its really just common sense, the 360 in the u.k has a 1000% increase so we know its out selling ps3 there. The difference between the sales in this past NPD was about 270k. And taking japan into account whatever differences the ps3 and 360 have there wouldnt be enough for the ps3 to even be close.

my friend you dont know what your talking about

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#71 Mario1331
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[QUOTE="FlamesOfGrey"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] Whenever i see a post like this its like i can see the damage control already. Its like cows are setting up the excuse for the poor sales GT5 will have. I can see posts already like "well lets give it another 2 years, or 3 years, or 4 years" so when you say long legs just about how many years after its release do you mean??

stiggy321

Uh no. Most if not all GT games have sold 10 million+ over time and not instantly like Halo / Mario / COD so, go and learn about the series sales before you claim damage control. I am not a GT fan but the series does what it does.

Reach won't sell 10 million. It won't even sell 5 million. Aren't a lot of the new 360 sales actually from people trading in their old 360's? I don't think they're selling that many new units every month.

yes it is today we got 20 trade ins for the slim

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#72 Warriorboy1990
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[QUOTE="KaoSXFACTOR"]

[QUOTE="Warriorboy1990"]

What exclusives does the 360 have coming out in 2010 besides Reach?

Cause all we do is play the exclusives game!

So what you are saying, you care about sales, but not exclusives?
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]In the bag? If you ignore the Wii? Possibly.bigboss5ak
You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3. As for any good wii software....lets not even get into that convo

Okay. So the latest Donkey Kong, Metroid, and Kirby games along with Epic Mickey won't be any good? Really? Well I'll certainly keep that in mind. :roll:
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[QUOTE="Indie_Hitman"][QUOTE="bigboss5ak"] Everyone excludes the wii its just become the way of things. Not that it really matters because the 360 has been outselling the wii as well. Wii sales has been on the decline but its upcoming list of software seems goodbigboss5ak
Proof of this worldwide domination?

Its really just common sense, the 360 in the u.k has a 1000% increase so we know its out selling ps3 there. The difference between the sales in this past NPD was about 270k. And taking japan into account whatever differences the ps3 and 360 have there wouldnt be enough for the ps3 to even be close.

I would prefer hard numbers than your assumtions thanks :)
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It just hit me after the new sales data.

August is likely to see a large sales. September with Reach will obviously claim victory. Call of Duty Black Ops, as tradition, will bring more attention to xbox live since it's such a heavy fps system. And of course Kinect and Christ mas will seal the deal.

World wide, it's gonna be a close call. But despite MS's terrible E3, I guess it didn't matter

Squall18

I know this sounds kind of offensive, but most of the world doesn't give a flying turtle about what happends at E3. Things we saw at E3 won't be known by the (consumer-buying-not-huge-gaming-fans-that-discuss-games-in-forums-like-us) public 2-3 weeks before release, and even by then, we have a general idea of how it will be. Ask 100 people on the street what E3 is, and only about 15 would ever be able to respond. The rest don't care.

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#77 yoshi_64
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Overall system hardware sales, who's winning? This year isn't over yet, but if MS plans to win this year, they'll have to beat out the winning hardware no? As for software sales, Wii's lineup is promising going by the reaction and critical claim people had for Nintendo this year.
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#78 gamebreakerz__
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Sales - wii Games - it debatable but I'd say PS3 = 360, we will have to wait for reviews to see who won.
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#79 Indie_Hitman
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Ok guys, you're not gonna believe this but the PS3 is now #1 in sales. It must have sold over 30 million in the last month - Why? Simples, summer is long and boring and what do people do when they're bored? Some play video games. Now as 30 million is some of the whole population, it is natural to assume that this many will be buying a console this summer. Don't ask why this year's different, it's common sense (Increase in ice cream sales anyone?). You may be asking right now, 'But Indie, how do we know all these people will be buying PS3s?'. The answer? - It's common sense. I think it's safe to assume that everybody's interested in the PS3 now. So there you go, /System Wars PS: I don't actually have figures for ice cream sales sales, but I think it's logical to assume that summer 2010 = More sales
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i dont know, ps3 had like alot of good games out so far, 360 just has... halo?

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#81 shinrabanshou
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In both games and sales, out of the consoles the Wii will have more for the back end of 2010. It already had more for the first half of the year.

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#82 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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I turned my xbox on a few months ago, for the first time in almost a year, and Halo 3 is still in there. I will buy Reach, and that game will remain in the console for the remaining duration of the console. As a big fan of the original xbox, MS has completely changed direction on their fanbase to the point where I don't even care what is coming out.

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#83 gfaatgamespyid
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In both games and sales, out of the consoles the Wii will have more for the back end of 2010. It already had more for the first half of the year.

shinrabanshou
I deffo reckon that Kinect an Move are gonna effect Wii sales, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM NOT TO SOME EXSTENT.
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#84 Vader993
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they can thank bungie for that

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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]In the bag? If you ignore the Wii? Possibly.bigboss5ak
You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3. As for any good wii software....lets not even get into that convo

So because the 360 has been on the top of sales the last few months its all over for the wii the rest of this year?:? Call me crazy but I think the wii will take the sales crown this holiday season. Especially if Nintendo drops the price which could be possible.

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I LOLed at the title. :P They only will have it if the 3DS isn't released in fall/winter. Plus E3 marked the middle of the year so... Doesn't that mean that last years winner had 2010? So, I guess not... Nintendo has won (from now to next E3)
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#87 AgentZero225
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It just hit me after the new sales data.

August is likely to see a large sales. September with Reach will obviously claim victory. Call of Duty Black Ops, as tradition, will bring more attention to xbox live since it's such a heavy fps system. And of course Kinect and Christ mas will seal the deal.

World wide, it's gonna be a close call. But despite MS's terrible E3, I guess it didn't matter

Squall18
Wrong, more people have a ps3 now and 360 doesnt sell well outside the states.
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#88 Sp4rtan_3
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In what bag ? The 2nd place bag then yes they do have it there.
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#89 Sp4rtan_3
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[QUOTE="Squall18"]

It just hit me after the new sales data.

August is likely to see a large sales. September with Reach will obviously claim victory. Call of Duty Black Ops, as tradition, will bring more attention to xbox live since it's such a heavy fps system. And of course Kinect and Christ mas will seal the deal.

World wide, it's gonna be a close call. But despite MS's terrible E3, I guess it didn't matter

AgentZero225
Wrong, more people have a ps3 now and 360 doesnt sell well outside the states.

No they dont. Ps3 is still in last.
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#90 EdenProxy
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[QUOTE="AgentZero225"][QUOTE="Squall18"]

It just hit me after the new sales data.

August is likely to see a large sales. September with Reach will obviously claim victory. Call of Duty Black Ops, as tradition, will bring more attention to xbox live since it's such a heavy fps system. And of course Kinect and Christ mas will seal the deal.

World wide, it's gonna be a close call. But despite MS's terrible E3, I guess it didn't matter

Sp4rtan_3
Wrong, more people have a ps3 now and 360 doesnt sell well outside the states.

No they dont. Ps3 is still in last.

In sales
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]In the bag? If you ignore the Wii? Possibly.bigboss5ak
You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3. As for any good wii software....lets not even get into that convo

Kirby's Epic Yarn Metroid Other M Epic Mickey Donkey Kong Country Returns No quality Wii software? I've got Halo Reach and LittleBigPlanet 2 pre-ordered as well but the Wii's got a kickin line up, it's owning this year.
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]In the bag? If you ignore the Wii? Possibly.coltsfan4ever

You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3. As for any good wii software....lets not even get into that convo

So because the 360 has been on the top of sales the last few months its all over for the wii the rest of this year?:? Call me crazy but I think the wii will take the sales crown this holiday season. Especially if Nintendo drops the price which could be possible.

Until Move and Kinect are avalible.
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#93 The_RedLion
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Nintendo has destroyed MS this year in sales and exclusives.
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#94 kyacat
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360 fine and the nintendo was awesome at t E3 2010 and yes both gt5 will sell system and so will Halo reach sell systems
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[QUOTE="EdenProxy"][QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="AgentZero225"] Wrong, more people have a ps3 now and 360 doesnt sell well outside the states.

No they dont. Ps3 is still in last.

In sales

Meaning that if 360 has more sales more people have the 360 -_-
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#96 Anberlin_2004
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[QUOTE="FIipMode"]The 360 and Ps3 are doing good, it's just that the Wii is doing better than both, how is that hiding? The better question is why are you excluding the Wii when it matters in the sales discussion as much as the other two?

AMEN. I get so tired of 360 owners only focusing on the PS3.
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#97 djsifer01
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In the bag? Sony and Nintendo are killing the 360 in quality exclusives this year. Hardware sales mean nothing to the gamer.
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#98 TacticalDesire
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I would rather play the games and not the sales, but in terms of sales there is GT5KevinButlerVP

Obviously you would...but would MS? Gaming is a business.

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#99 svetzenlether
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It just hit me after the new sales data.

August is likely to see a large sales. September with Reach will obviously claim victory. Call of Duty Black Ops, as tradition, will bring more attention to xbox live since it's such a heavy fps system. And of course Kinect and Christ mas will seal the deal.

World wide, it's gonna be a close call. But despite MS's terrible E3, I guess it didn't matter

Squall18

You're overestimating Kinect.

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#100 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

In both games and sales, out of the consoles the Wii will have more for the back end of 2010. It already had more for the first half of the year.

gfaatgamespyid

I deffo reckon that Kinect an Move are gonna effect Wii sales, IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR THEM NOT TO SOME EXSTENT.

Yep its true they will have at the very least a mild effect...and no-one can really predict how large it could end up being. I mean from a casual standpoint Kinect is a lot cooler than the Wii-mote...and casuals just jump at the next gimmick soo...