Despite MS's awful E3, it doesn't matter. Realistically, they have 2010 in a bag

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#101 TacticalDesire
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In the bag? Sony and Nintendo are killing the 360 in quality exclusives this year. Hardware sales mean nothing to the gamer.djsifer01

They do to the company though...which is apparently something that people in this thread fail to realize. I think what the TC is trying to say is that despite MS's awful E3 and all the hate in system wars...they are pretty much un-affected in terms of sales. 360s are putting up stellar sales figures and will certainly out sell the PS3 and may even outsell the Wii (as they have for the past few months).

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#102 TacticalDesire
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Nintendo has destroyed MS this year in sales and exclusives.The_RedLion

In exclusives yeah...but not in 3rd party support or sales ironically. Yeah they're ahead overall but not so much that it can be considered that they are destroying MS...I mean since the 360 slim MS has outsold Nintendo.

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#103 djsifer01
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"]In the bag? Sony and Nintendo are killing the 360 in quality exclusives this year. Hardware sales mean nothing to the gamer.TacticalDesire

They do to the company though...which is apparently something that people in this thread fail to realize. I think what the TC is trying to say is that despite MS's awful E3 and all the hate in system wars...they are pretty much un-affected in terms of sales. 360s are putting up stellar sales figures and will certainly out sell the PS3 and may even outsell the Wii (as they have for the past few months).

Doubtful, the gap between the PS3 and 360 is shrinking. The 360 catching the Wii is laughable. With the release of GT5 and Move i see the gap being vaporized. the gap was 8 million not even a year ago and now is around 3 million.
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#104 gfaatgamespyid
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

In the bag? Sony and Nintendo are killing the 360 in quality exclusives this year. Hardware sales mean nothing to the gamer.djsifer01

They do to the company though...which is apparently something that people in this thread fail to realize. I think what the TC is trying to say is that despite MS's awful E3 and all the hate in system wars...they are pretty much un-affected in terms of sales. 360s are putting up stellar sales figures and will certainly out sell the PS3 and may even outsell the Wii (as they have for the past few months).

Doubtful, the gap between the PS3 and 360 is shrinking. The 360 catching the Wii is laughable. With the release of GT5 and Move i see the gap being vaporized. the gap was 8 million not even a year ago and now is around 3 million.

But Kinect will save MS, infact Kinect and Move together will render the Nintendo Wii at best a budget console and at worst obselete there-fore become the big players in the 7th Generation console market. PS3 may catch up September through to November due to early intro of Move but from November onwards due to the introduction of Kinect, the gap will widen big time.
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#105 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

They do to the company though...which is apparently something that people in this thread fail to realize. I think what the TC is trying to say is that despite MS's awful E3 and all the hate in system wars...they are pretty much un-affected in terms of sales. 360s are putting up stellar sales figures and will certainly out sell the PS3 and may even outsell the Wii (as they have for the past few months).

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Doubtful, the gap between the PS3 and 360 is shrinking. The 360 catching the Wii is laughable. With the release of GT5 and Move i see the gap being vaporized. the gap was 8 million not even a year ago and now is around 3 million.

But Kinect will save MS, infact Kinect and Move together will render the Nintendo Wii at best a budget console and at worst obselete there-fore become the big players in the 7th Generation console market. PS3 may catch up September through to November due to early intro of Move but from November onwards due to the introduction of Kinect, the gap will widen big time.

So the last official worldwide numbers we have were from April-June and the PS3 and Wii murdered the 360 in worldwide sales. The Wii was still clearly on top.

The 360 has recently been doing well in the NPD, but it trails as much as it ever has in Japan, and Europe is a big question mark. To be honest, that's where the real battleground is. PS3 sold about 640,000 units (according to NPD) between April-June 2010 in North America, while simultaneously selling 2.4 million worldwide. The 360 sold about 831,000 units between April-June 2010 (according to NPD) in North America, while simultaneously selling 1.5 million units worldwide.

So the reason the PS3 has been catching up to the 360 has nothing to do with NA -- it's because the 360 sold a paltry ~669,000 units in other regions last quarter, while the PS3 sold ~1,760,000 units in other regions.

The question to me isn't whether the 360 can top the NPD with Kinect, it's can Microsoft figure out how to sell their system overseas?

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#106 JohnF111
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Well GT5 is my only preorder this year and if Black Ops turns out to be another kidfest of overpowered guns and silly perks then it can stay on the shelf as far as i am concerned...
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#107 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]In the bag? Sony and Nintendo are killing the 360 in quality exclusives this year. Hardware sales mean nothing to the gamer.djsifer01

They do to the company though...which is apparently something that people in this thread fail to realize. I think what the TC is trying to say is that despite MS's awful E3 and all the hate in system wars...they are pretty much un-affected in terms of sales. 360s are putting up stellar sales figures and will certainly out sell the PS3 and may even outsell the Wii (as they have for the past few months).

Doubtful, the gap between the PS3 and 360 is shrinking. The 360 catching the Wii is laughable. With the release of GT5 and Move i see the gap being vaporized. the gap was 8 million not even a year ago and now is around 3 million.

since MS has released the SLIM the gap is now going the other way, expect the PS3 to be 5 million behind at the end of 2010. With the release of REach which is going to be bigger than GT5, and Kinect which has been preordered more than Move the opposite is going to happen my friend.

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#108 Sandvichman
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Yay more shooters, nobody but the chavs care.Birdy09
Yeah reall badasses play Warcracft for 697 hours. You are so awesome.
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#109 SakusEnvoy
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[QUOTE="djsifer01"][QUOTE="TacticalDesire"]

They do to the company though...which is apparently something that people in this thread fail to realize. I think what the TC is trying to say is that despite MS's awful E3 and all the hate in system wars...they are pretty much un-affected in terms of sales. 360s are putting up stellar sales figures and will certainly out sell the PS3 and may even outsell the Wii (as they have for the past few months).

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Doubtful, the gap between the PS3 and 360 is shrinking. The 360 catching the Wii is laughable. With the release of GT5 and Move i see the gap being vaporized. the gap was 8 million not even a year ago and now is around 3 million.

since MS has released the SLIM the gap is now going the other way, expect the PS3 to be 5 million behind at the end of 2010. With the release of REach which is going to be bigger than GT5, and Kinect which has been preordered more than Move the opposite is going to happen my friend.

I suppose you're using Vgchartz to determine that? See my above post...

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#110 ProjectNatalFan
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[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

[QUOTE="djsifer01"]Doubtful, the gap between the PS3 and 360 is shrinking. The 360 catching the Wii is laughable. With the release of GT5 and Move i see the gap being vaporized. the gap was 8 million not even a year ago and now is around 3 million.SakusEnvoy

since MS has released the SLIM the gap is now going the other way, expect the PS3 to be 5 million behind at the end of 2010. With the release of REach which is going to be bigger than GT5, and Kinect which has been preordered more than Move the opposite is going to happen my friend.

I suppose you're using Vgchartz to determine that? See my above post...

your numbers are pre xbox 360 slim announcement, we know that the PS3 was gaining ground, to think that the 360 is not selling the Slim well is absolutely crazy. Did you see the NPD data last month for the SLim? It was at 446,000, and outsold the PS3 2-1

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[QUOTE="SakusEnvoy"]

[QUOTE="ProjectNatalFan"]

since MS has released the SLIM the gap is now going the other way, expect the PS3 to be 5 million behind at the end of 2010. With the release of REach which is going to be bigger than GT5, and Kinect which has been preordered more than Move the opposite is going to happen my friend.

ProjectNatalFan

I suppose you're using Vgchartz to determine that? See my above post...

your numbers are pre xbox 360 slim announcement, we know that the PS3 was gaining ground, to think that the 360 is not selling the Slim well is absolutely crazy. Did you see the NPD data last month for the SLim? It was at 446,000, and outsold the PS3 2-1

You saw the June 2010 NPD numbers too, right? The 360 outsold the PS3 by 150,000 units - 300,000 to 450,000 units. Yet last quarter (of which June was one-third of the data) the PS3 outsold the 360 worldwide by nearly a million units. The real key to determining who is outselling who lies in overseas numbers, not the NPD.

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Yay more shooters, nobody but the chavs care.Birdy09

Such a completely moronic statement I have never heard, even in system Wars ...

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#113 gfaatgamespyid
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Chavs rule which is why MS need to releace I chavy 360 slim!
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#114 catfishmoon23
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In a bag?

I think you mean "in the bag" lol. If you meant "a bag" that would mean other companies like Sony and Nintendo could also have 2010 in a bag (not saying they can't, just that this is what your thread is about lol). If it was "the bag" then that would be the only bag that matters.

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#115 ArtisTool
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Wow the TC got owned :P MS has been getting owned all year long, bad prediction TC. I love the "Realistically" :lol:

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nintendo has wii party to dominate sales. and then they have a bunch of awesome games to make "teh hardcorz" happy. and kirby.
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nintendo has wii party to dominate sales. and then they have a bunch of awesome games to make "teh hardcorz" happy. and kirby.BrunoBRS

This.

Kinect needs to sell first while the Wii is already out and has been selling very well throughout the whole year. Wii Party's going to be something.:P Also I'm not really sure how long the appeal of Kinect will last, I mean peripherals don't usually have the best lasting value. (Eyetoy, Wii balance board, Wii zapper & currently Wii motion + (not enough support imo)).

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#118 general_KDI
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Well, I guess I prefer LBP2 and GT5 to Halo : Reach and that crap (kinect).

That's only to compare with what TC said.

Cause I'll also play :

Pixeljunk shooter 2
Castlevania : LoS

IMO the PS3 is best fit for me as I don't like that much shooters. I got a racing game, a platformer and an action-adventure.

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[QUOTE="Birdy09"]Yay more shooters, nobody but the chavs care.thespywholied

Lol the chavs play GTA and Saint rows. 0.o

Sorry but labeling someone because of the games they play is ignoran....system wars.

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#120 Mercenary848
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[QUOTE="bigboss5ak"][QUOTE="FIipMode"]In the bag? If you ignore the Wii? Possibly.savebattery
You mean in terms of sales?? the 360 has out sold the wii since e3. As for any good wii software....lets not even get into that convo

Donkey Kong Country Returns, Sonic Colors, Metroid: Other M, Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wii Party, GoldenEye 007. Like them or not, those games are all going to sell over a million copies. And they're all coming out between August and December.

I just realisised this is a bumped thread.