Detroit rises, hermits fall.

@Legend002: The OP has called every major PS4 release a gfx king each time they are announced.

It's time to accept you guys lost. IT's been several gens now. Superior hardware = eventually better gfx, how many years of crying and lying will it take for you to get this?

LMFAO

@Cloud_imperium said:

It does look incredible, and unlike some haters, i believe that these consoles still have alot to improve. Unfortunatly fot us, console games, Star Citizen is the Crysis of this gen. That game is simply on it's own league!

The trailer for this game.

Especially the 2nd picture.

Those 4 TitanX.

@anderswhk: The Order looked everybit as good as presented... Matter of fact most games do. You can debate there graphics king status but if you played the games as opposed to looking at shitty compressed screen grabs you would know what the games look like.

Yeah it's crystal clear ...no PS4 title can be GFX king ...

character looks like it got plastic over the face :P

@Desmonic:

60FPS really hurts visuals

Forza 6 looks awesome at 1080p 60FPS, I wonder what it would look like at 900p 30FPS

@anthonyautumns: @tushar172787: The hypocrisy both herms and Lems is hilarious. First you say these are all bullshots rendered on super high end PCs but then you claim the visuals are not that good to begin with it. So which is it? If you think the PS4 isn't capable of rendering this( with a David Cage game it is). Then by default you admit it looks good. If it's not impressive to begin with as you also say then is it not plausible it's running on the console? Make up your mind because all I see is a bunch of fanboys incapable of logical debates.

oh really? give me a link on where I said this is running on PC? idiotic generalizer...

i hope this is satire..

Yet again.. Guys.. These consoles are entry level pcs on a x86 platform.. These systems are not unique anymore, they do not have some kind of unique tech in which they could some how get more horse power out of compared to a pc.. These are $400 pc's now, they can still play great games, but your lying to your selves if you some how think that we are suddenly going to see visuals that some how blow the industry away now.. These machines are struggling playing games at 1080p now.. Every game from then on that tries to push the limits is going to have them having cut corners in other directions.. Currently it is the fps and resolution.. But we are going to see more drastic changes if you expect to see even more graphical progression.

It does look good, it's a trailer, it's supposed to. It may even be in engine but that goes for nothing when they don't tell you what the engine is running on.

By the time it launches expect nothing more 'spectacular' than The Order, where everything but the central view point (no more than 30% - 40% of the screen) is blurred out to hide horrendous background textures and LoD. I wouldn't be surprised if, when we do see in game footage running on a PS4, there are black bars and/or 900p (or less) resolution and of course that woeful 30 fps cap that's now becoming common place and for some reason accepted.

+1 (for both quoted posts)

@gpuking

What is the logic and reasoning here?

Why is every PS4 exclusive a "graphics king?" Is it because there is no PC version to compare it too, and prove how utterly stupid your proposition is? Or do you think that only a select few developers in the world know how to use a Sony branded low end x86 based PC with the same effectiveness as top-of-the line hardware made by the same company who actually designed the PS4? These devs know more about GCN than AMD?

You give all console gamers a bad name, and perpetuate the stereotype that console gamers know jack about computer graphics.

@tushar172787: Look at your moron herm brothers claiming it is. I asked you a question. So your saying it's running on a PS4 it just doesn't look good right?

@wizard: Do you think that maybe it's because the best looking games on PS4 are all exclusive? And no its not just a low end PC. The PS4 was built for GPU compute. To my knowledge one game currently uses it at all.(Infamous SS) Uncharted 4 is also using it but it's a nice feature no multiplat dev uses.

You can debate them being graphics kings but if you named the top 10 best looking games currently on the PS4 at least 4 are exclusive and the top two are also exclusive.

@AM-Gamer:

My comment wasn't directed at PS4 vs PS4 comparisons. It was at PC vs PS4 for "graphics king." Naturally, PS4 exclusives should have better graphics than their multiplats, whether it's because they mostly consist of linear "cinematic" 30 fps corridor adventure shooters, or because they are Sony's first party IP's. I don't care how talented the devs are, you have to sacrifice a lot to produce decent visuals on low end hardware. "Graphics Kings" don't sacrifice anything. Crysis didn't in 2007.

"The PS4 was built for GPU compute."

You really like those brochures don't you. GCN is quite effective at compute, it's not a PS4 exclusive feature, and at a measly 1.84 TFLOPs the PS4 was sure as hell not "built for compute." PC's can use the feature too, but for obvious reasons, haven't had the need to implement it. We don't pair dedicated graphics cards with abysmal CPUs, and until DX12 features have come to light, GPU compute in gaming has been all but ignored (GCN has had the capability for a while now). There are currently plenty of downsides to using GPGPU in real time gaming versus utilizing a capable CPU. The Infamous Devs haven't unlocked the holy grail to gaming, they have simply shuffled resources to get the results they wanted. It's not mind blowing, but you're right it is a nice feature.

7850 with some boost - Middle-low to low end in 2015.

AMD Jaguar 8 core CPU - Lower than low end. It'll get smoked by a modern i3.

8GB GDDR5 - Anything requiring this kind of frame buffer would likely require a better GPU. I know this is unified, but still.

What about the PS4 isn't low end? GP-GPU hasn't changed the hardware at all, and it isn't unique to the innate capabilities of the PS4.

Garbage King.

Giovela sure does love his movie simulators. Dem' droughts.

it's my eyes, and i trust what i see. i don't give a sh** about what deranged cows or hermits say. oh so now shall i generalize you with cows? you want that?