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#1 carljohnson3456
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http://gamer.blorge.com/2007/09/16/developer-xbox-360-games-keeping-up-to-ps3-but-not-for-long/
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#2 jethrovegas
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John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.
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Well, many games think that it will, even some lemmings. The thing is, will it make it in time and will it be significant enough to save its sales?
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#4 Riverwolf007
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"undisclosed developer" = complete fabrication, but yeah I guess when you are drowning you grasp at anything that will float.

360 titles only "keeping up" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

Thats a good one.

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#5 deactivated-5dd711115e664
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When will the cows learn. It doesn't matter how many developers have come out saying the PS3 is easily more powerful and graphically superior...Itagi bashed the 360 and major nelson made some sweet charts. For lemmings, one piece of negative criticism trumps dozens of supportive statements. Unless it is about the 360 in which case the opposite is true.
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#6 Rick_Henderson
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Well of course, I guess they finally learned to produce 4D. Seriously, surpassing the 360's abilities is a completely idiotic thing to say.
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#7 furtherfan
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i hope so. i want games to evolve within the next couple of years. but there are lots of developers saying different things.
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#8 kentaro22
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i hope so. i want games to evolve within the next couple of years. but there are lots of developers saying different things.furtherfan
Yes, usually at their best interest in the moment. I hope that we can see something good and graphics evolving rapidly at TGS.
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#9 xDonRobx
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More talk? I was hoping this would've been from a credible developer.

PS3 can pass the abilities of the 360 as much as it wants, Lair and Heavenly Sword were supposed to be those games and those games are jokes. The system doesn't make the games, developers do.

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#10 leviathan91
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I'll believe it when I see it. ;)
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#12 audioaxes
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why make a thread over some stupid article?

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#14 PSP107
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Then the question is, who will be the 1st to show the full POWER of PS3?
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#15 Marka1700
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Unnmaded devloper from a website no one has ever herad of with little credability.

Very reliable source.

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#16 G10mgs4
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lemming will jus say, bu but teh 360 is teh cheaper. 299 wejsdfusbfsdgvrfdbh
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#17 TyrantDragon55
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I wonder why the developer didn't want their identity revealed.

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#18 ThisIsSW
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Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.
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Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.ThisIsSW

The specs show that each console is better at certain things, the PS3 has yet to produce a game that blows away what the 360 is capable of, and developers are devided on the subject. The PS3 may very well be theoretically more powerful than the 360, but so far the difference has not shown itself to be anything significant.

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Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.ThisIsSW

Bull ****. The games have proved nothing. The devs are either first party or anonymous, or they suck, like Factor 5.

John Carmack (look guys, a real name) says that the PS3 is consistenly the hardest platform for them to work with when developing a mult-plat title due to its inferior RAM.

Nothing has been proved. Is it more powerful? Maybe, but where in the hell are the games that prove it?

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#21 xDonRobx
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Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.ThisIsSW

Yep, Lair, Heavenly Sword and a bunch of other inferior multiplats really prove the PS3 is more powerful.

Or are you talkin about the games that are supposed to be released in 6-10 months?

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#22 Vyse_The_Daring
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I have a reliable source, who wished to remain nameless, that says that this source is lying. There, now I have as much proof as anyone else in this thread.
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#23 naughtydog360
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I'll believe it when I see it. ;)leviathan91

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you
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somebody has to seriously shut these people up. one minute they say it a pain to make game and now there saying 360 is trying to keep up? wth
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)naughtydog360

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

What exactly is so insane about Heavenly Sword's AI?Amazing graphics are being produced on both consoles, not just the PS3. And did you really just use Lair as an example of the PS3's power? Do I need to link you to the GT review to show you all of the graphical problems it has?

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does this mean the ps3 will be able to run madden at 60 fps? or it'll keep pretend surpassing it at 30fps?

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John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.jethrovegas

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)naughtydog360

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

Please tell us more about Killzone's physics, since you have played the actual game and all.

As for your list of games that surpassed Gears. I wont even take it serously. You must be joking.

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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)naughtydog360

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

heavenly sword's A.I is no where near great:|

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"undisclosed developer" = complete fabrication, but yeah I guess when you are drowning you grasp at anything that will float.

360 titles only "keeping up" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

Thats a good one.

Riverwolf007

Yea that is a good one. I played Heavnly sword and its obvious the 360 is getting smoked at this point. But at least its keeping up in poorly made multiplats.

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[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)Admyrr6

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

LOLZ, gears has barely any physics, only body parts. Killzone s world is destructable like stranglehold.

Please tell us more about Killzone's physics, since you have played the actual game and all.

As for your list of games that surpassed Gears. I wont even take it serously. You must be joking.

LOLZ, gears has barely any physics, only body parts. Killzone s world is destructable like stranglehold.

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does this mean the ps3 will be able to run madden at 60 fps? or it'll keep pretend surpassing it at 30fps?

Mystery_Writer

Well it at least it can run Dirt at a steady 30fps while the 360 version chugs along and trys to maintain a steady framerate.

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I think eventually we will see stuff from the PS3 that will be amazing, but by the time this happens will it even matter or the system might actually be $249.99 by then. I dont think were going to see too many games this gen that are super high profile, it just costs to much for most devs.
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)naughtydog360

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you



hahah the ai in hs sucked......They did nothing special, there were just lots of them, taking turns doing the same thing.
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[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.killzowned24

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

Mmm k, game with terrible textures, good models and no defining game elements so far versus Rage.

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#36 Polaris_choice
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[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)lawlessx

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

heavenly sword's A.I is no where near great:|

Your right its not but its visual quality is simply far beyond anything on the 360 now. Visually it looks better then Gears of War and it has as much action going on as Dead Rising in some parts. Simply put from a visual standpoint and only a visual standpoint it clearly beats any game on the 360 now . This is coming from somone who owns both( Gamertag TheSterls) Lemmings need to realize this the PS3 is already doing things that are technically ahead of what the 360 seems capable of.

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#37 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)supermanfarr

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you



hahah the ai in hs sucked......They did nothing special, there were just lots of them, taking turns doing the same thing.

lol, sounds like ninja gaiden2 but minus lots of people because 360 cant handle it.

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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

"undisclosed developer" = complete fabrication, but yeah I guess when you are drowning you grasp at anything that will float.

360 titles only "keeping up" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

Thats a good one.

Polaris_choice

Yea that is a good one. I played Heavnly sword and its obvious the 360 is getting smoked at this point. But at least its keeping up in poorly made multiplats.


Yea I played heavenly sword also. The graphics are nothing special, not even better than gears. I have both games. Not to mention all the screen tearing.  HS COULD EASILY BE DONE ON THE 360.
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[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)TyrantDragon55

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

What exactly is so insane about Heavenly Sword's AI?Amazing graphics are being produced on both consoles, not just the PS3. And did you really just use Lair as an example of the PS3's power? Do I need to link you to the GT review to show you all of the graphical problems it has?

Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.

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[QUOTE="supermanfarr"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)killzowned24

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you



hahah the ai in hs sucked......They did nothing special, there were just lots of them, taking turns doing the same thing.

lol, sounds like ninja gaiden2 but minus lots of people because 360 cant handle it.

... yeah you keep telling yourself that :wink:

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#41 killzowned24
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.MrGrimFandango

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

Mmm k, game with terrible textures, good models and no defining game elements so far versus Rage.

meh, post a pic if your so sure..lolz

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[QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)Polaris_choice

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

heavenly sword's A.I is no where near great:|

Your right its not but its visual quality is simply far beyond anything on the 360 now. Visually it looks better then Gears of War and it has as much action going on as Dead Rising in some parts. Simply put from a visual standpoint and only a visual standpoint it clearly beats any game on the 360 now . This is coming from somone who owns both( Gamertag TheSterls) Lemmings need to realize this the PS3 is already doing things that are technically ahead of what the 360 seems capable of.


I just dont see what you are talking about. Do you mean the cut scenes where they have the facial close ups? The graphics are nothing special maybe you have the art style and Graphics confused..
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#43 lawlessx
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)naughtydog360

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

What exactly is so insane about Heavenly Sword's AI?Amazing graphics are being produced on both consoles, not just the PS3. And did you really just use Lair as an example of the PS3's power? Do I need to link you to the GT review to show you all of the graphical problems it has?

Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.

kameo has already done that( 1000+ npc's with there own A.I)..not saying that its still not impressive,but its not something only the ps3 can do.

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Ya YA YA ....In the future Sony this and Sony that. Thing is it didnt wow anyone when it came out like it was promised to. How about this Sony.....Seeing is believing....
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[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="supermanfarr"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)lawlessx

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you



hahah the ai in hs sucked......They did nothing special, there were just lots of them, taking turns doing the same thing.

lol, sounds like ninja gaiden2 but minus lots of people because 360 cant handle it.

... yeah you keep telling yourself that :wink:

LoL, NJ2 is just like gears..cant handle more then 8-10 people onscreen!!

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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.killzowned24

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

Mmm k, game with terrible textures, good models and no defining game elements so far versus Rage.

meh, post a pic if your so sure..lolz

Not a good idea. I've seen Rage and it rapes Killzone.
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#47 swanlee
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Not that it matters but didn't last gen prove that the supposed most powerful system doesn't always win? The Xbox never caught up to the PS2 and the Xbox had far and away better hardware and MUCH better looking games. This gen the hardware is much much closer. So why are Sony and COWS now trying to claim the edge in power when it's obvious that has never really meant much in the first place? Look at the WII
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#48 MrGrimFandango
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[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.killzowned24

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

Mmm k, game with terrible textures, good models and no defining game elements so far versus Rage.

meh, post a pic if your so sure..lolz

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/23174.html

Dunno if that will link to the video, if not just look up Rage.

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#49 supermanfarr
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[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)naughtydog360

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

What exactly is so insane about Heavenly Sword's AI?Amazing graphics are being produced on both consoles, not just the PS3. And did you really just use Lair as an example of the PS3's power? Do I need to link you to the GT review to show you all of the graphical problems it has?

Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.


You are so wrong its not even funny. Yea all 100 guys had their own special ai...Â