Developer: The PS3 will surpass the abilities of the 360 completely

Looks like a Motorstorm poser..lol

Devs- PS3 will surpass the 360's abilities.

Reality- "Just wait...." :shock:

[QUOTE="naughtydog360"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)supermanfarr

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

What exactly is so insane about Heavenly Sword's AI?Amazing graphics are being produced on both consoles, not just the PS3. And did you really just use Lair as an example of the PS3's power? Do I need to link you to the GT review to show you all of the graphical problems it has?

Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.

so why werent there 100 of NPC's fighting you in NG:S? -----------------

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You do know Heavenly Sword looks WAY better then Sigma right??? So your point has nothing!!

Looks like a Motorstorm poser..lol

killzowned24

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)supermanfarr

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

heavenly sword's A.I is no where near great:|

Your right its not but its visual quality is simply far beyond anything on the 360 now. Visually it looks better then Gears of War and it has as much action going on as Dead Rising in some parts. Simply put from a visual standpoint and only a visual standpoint it clearly beats any game on the 360 now . This is coming from somone who owns both( Gamertag TheSterls) Lemmings need to realize this the PS3 is already doing things that are technically ahead of what the 360 seems capable of.

Well you havent played the game are you wouldnt even be aruging with me rest assured ive been playing games since the NES days so yes I know a diffrence between artistic qulaity and technical excellence. Great textures, Lighting and shadows that is among the best available, Physics on every enemy and up to 1000+ enemys on screen at a time with virtuallly no slow down is not art thats just technical superiority. Even my friends that are hardcore lemmings( even liked the Xbox better then the PS2) admit it looks better then anything on the 360 from a graphical standpoint.

Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.

naughtydog360

Really? Because from what I've seen they all just stand around waiting for their turn to fight (which kind of makes the numbers pointless in a way). As for Gran Turismo, yes it looksamazing but PGR4 looks pretty close, and it's also not out yet so we have no idea what kind of problems it might have (I don't remember Lair having frame-rate problems in any of it's hype videos). Frame-rate is not the only problem with Lair's graphics: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24532.html

so why werent there 100 of NPC's fighting you in NG:S? -----------------

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You do know Heavenly Sword looks WAY better then Sigma right??? So your point has nothing!!

killzowned24

you going to answer my question?

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Looks like a Motorstorm poser..lol

rhaigun

Sorry just saying doeant look any better then Motorstorm, and if the racing doesnt FPS wont also.

Looks like a Motorstorm poser..lol

killzowned24

Your kidding right?

[QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.rhaigun

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

Mmm k, game with terrible textures, good models and no defining game elements so far versus Rage.

meh, post a pic if your so sure..lolz

Um no it doesnt . The lighting in Rage looks Primitive compared to Killzone not to mention KZ2 is very early in development and already looks outstanding.

[QUOTE="supermanfarr"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)Polaris_choice

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

heavenly sword's A.I is no where near great:|

Your right its not but its visual quality is simply far beyond anything on the 360 now. Visually it looks better then Gears of War and it has as much action going on as Dead Rising in some parts. Simply put from a visual standpoint and only a visual standpoint it clearly beats any game on the 360 now . This is coming from somone who owns both( Gamertag TheSterls) Lemmings need to realize this the PS3 is already doing things that are technically ahead of what the 360 seems capable of.

Well you havent played the game are you wouldnt even be aruging with me rest assured ive been playing games since the NES days so yes I know a diffrence between artistic qulaity and technical excellence. Great textures, Lighting and shadows that is among the best available, Physics on every enemy and up to 1000+ enemys on screen at a time with virtuallly no slow down is not art thats just technical superiority. Even my friends that are hardcore lemmings( even liked the Xbox better then the PS2) admit it looks better then anything on the 360 from a graphical standpoint.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Looks like a Motorstorm poser..lol

killzowned24

Sorry just saying doeant look any better then Motorstorm, and if the racing doesnt FPS wont also.

Sorry, that game looks better in both genres at the same time than ANY game on ANY console.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="supermanfarr"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)rhaigun

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

heavenly sword's A.I is no where near great:|

Your right its not but its visual quality is simply far beyond anything on the 360 now. Visually it looks better then Gears of War and it has as much action going on as Dead Rising in some parts. Simply put from a visual standpoint and only a visual standpoint it clearly beats any game on the 360 now . This is coming from somone who owns both( Gamertag TheSterls) Lemmings need to realize this the PS3 is already doing things that are technically ahead of what the 360 seems capable of.

Well you havent played the game are you wouldnt even be aruging with me rest assured ive been playing games since the NES days so yes I know a diffrence between artistic qulaity and technical excellence. Great textures, Lighting and shadows that is among the best available, Physics on every enemy and up to 1000+ enemys on screen at a time with virtuallly no slow down is not art thats just technical superiority. Even my friends that are hardcore lemmings( even liked the Xbox better then the PS2) admit it looks better then anything on the 360 from a graphical standpoint.

seriously..they're trying to make a big deal about all of them having their own A.I when they werent even smart..they just stood there waiting for you most of the time.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="supermanfarr"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="lawlessx"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)rhaigun

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

heavenly sword's A.I is no where near great:|

Your right its not but its visual quality is simply far beyond anything on the 360 now. Visually it looks better then Gears of War and it has as much action going on as Dead Rising in some parts. Simply put from a visual standpoint and only a visual standpoint it clearly beats any game on the 360 now . This is coming from somone who owns both( Gamertag TheSterls) Lemmings need to realize this the PS3 is already doing things that are technically ahead of what the 360 seems capable of.

Well you havent played the game are you wouldnt even be aruging with me rest assured ive been playing games since the NES days so yes I know a diffrence between artistic qulaity and technical excellence. Great textures, Lighting and shadows that is among the best available, Physics on every enemy and up to 1000+ enemys on screen at a time with virtuallly no slow down is not art thats just technical superiority. Even my friends that are hardcore lemmings( even liked the Xbox better then the PS2) admit it looks better then anything on the 360 from a graphical standpoint.

Not really they still block and throw counters but yes you can easily dispatch them as at that point in the game you are extremly powerful regardless there a hell of alot smarter then the zombies in Dead Rising and the visuals stomp the crap out of Dead Rising which brings me back to my point of technical superiority HS simply looks better then anything on the 360.

Um no it doesnt . The lighting in Rage looks Primitive compared to Killzone not to mention KZ2 is very early in development and already looks outstanding.

Polaris_choice

Early in development? They've been working on this game for like 2 and a half years now. If they really are only in pre-alpha like they say they are, then what the hell have they been doing all of this time.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.Polaris_choice

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

Mmm k, game with terrible textures, good models and no defining game elements so far versus Rage.

meh, post a pic if your so sure..lolz

Um no it doesnt . The lighting in Rage looks Primitive compared to Killzone not to mention KZ2 is very early in development and already looks outstanding.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="killzowned24"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="killzowned24"]

[QUOTE="jethrovegas"]John Carmack: The PS3 is a pain in the ass to develop for.Polaris_choice

LOLZ, Carmack has been owned!!!!

Mmm k, game with terrible textures, good models and no defining game elements so far versus Rage.

meh, post a pic if your so sure..lolz

Um no it doesnt . The lighting in Rage looks Primitive compared to Killzone not to mention KZ2 is very early in development and already looks outstanding.

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]

OMG! HS has 1,000's of enemies on screen at once? To bad they're all retarded.Polaris_choice

Not really they still block and throw counters but yes you can easily dispatch them as at that point in the game you are extremly powerful regardless there a hell of alot smarter then the zombies in Dead Rising and the visuals stomp the crap out of Dead Rising which brings me back to my point of technical superiority HS simply looks better then anything on the 360.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

Um no it doesnt . The lighting in Rage looks Primitive compared to Killzone not to mention KZ2 is very early in development and already looks outstanding.

TyrantDragon55

Early in development? They've been working on this game for like 2 and a half years now. If they really are only in pre-alpha like they say they are, then what the hell have they been doing all of this time.

Finishing the game. Visual touches are some of the last things that are put in the game the developer said himself some of the features in the game are extremly early. So are you saying hes lying? If you dotn belive me go look up old pics of Heavnly sword and look how much its visuals improved from E32005 to E32006.

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

MrGrimFandango

the guy only asked for a single proof of that so-called superiority, why don't you just provide it then?

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

SambaLele

the guy only asked for a single proof of that so-called superiority, why don't you just provide it then?

the video wasnt enough? ive seen killzone and it doesnt touch rage, even in motion.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="rhaigun"]

OMG! HS has 1,000's of enemies on screen at once? To bad they're all retarded.rhaigun

Not really they still block and throw counters but yes you can easily dispatch them as at that point in the game you are extremly powerful regardless there a hell of alot smarter then the zombies in Dead Rising and the visuals stomp the crap out of Dead Rising which brings me back to my point of technical superiority HS simply looks better then anything on the 360.

Im aruging with a fanboy obviously so it really doesnt matter .I played the game youhavent,I own both consoles so I could care less what looks better but my eyes dont lie. You said HS has mediocre character desighn? Um it utterly stomps any game on the 360 in terms of char desghin right now. As for Mass Effect we wont count that becauseits not even out yet but you want to talk about beautiful animations not only does HS have much more animationsthen Mass Effect but its far harder to show someone wield duel swords around in multiple combos the it is to show someone aim a gun and you want to tell me Mass Effects animations are more impressive? lmao, but if you want to bring up animations bring up Uncharted it has better animations then any game Period.

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

Um no it doesnt . The lighting in Rage looks Primitive compared to Killzone not to mention KZ2 is very early in development and already looks outstanding.

Polaris_choice

Early in development? They've been working on this game for like 2 and a half years now. If they really are only in pre-alpha like they say they are, then what the hell have they been doing all of this time.

Finishing the game. Visual touches are some of the last things that are put in the game the developer said himself some of the features in the game are extremly early. So are you saying hes lying? If you dotn belive me go look up old pics of Heavnly sword and look how much its visuals improved from E32005 to E32006.

If they've been working on this game for almost 3 years and still aren't even past the earliest stage of developement, then there's no way this game is coming out next year.

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

SambaLele

the guy only asked for a single proof of that so-called superiority, why don't you just provide it then?

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

MrGrimFandango

the guy only asked for a single proof of that so-called superiority, why don't you just provide it then?

the video wasnt enough? ive seen killzone and it doesnt touch rage, even in motion.

Is that a joke? Look at all the action on screen in KZ2 it stomps Rage as for rage its recyling the same textures over and over again. KZ2 hasnt even implemented texture streaming yet as the developer has said. Most the texutures are place holders and the lighing system in KZ2 as I said makes rage look primative. Even the Red lights off the Hellghast eyes can be seen refelecting off there suites when fighting.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"]

Um no it doesnt . The lighting in Rage looks Primitive compared to Killzone not to mention KZ2 is very early in development and already looks outstanding.

TyrantDragon55

Early in development? They've been working on this game for like 2 and a half years now. If they really are only in pre-alpha like they say they are, then what the hell have they been doing all of this time.

Finishing the game. Visual touches are some of the last things that are put in the game the developer said himself some of the features in the game are extremly early. So are you saying hes lying? If you dotn belive me go look up old pics of Heavnly sword and look how much its visuals improved from E32005 to E32006.

If they've been working on this game for almost 3 years and still aren't even past the earliest stage of developement, then there's no way this game is coming out next year.

It may but it would be holiday season late next year at the earliest.

Rage tech demo-

Motorstorm a PS3 launch game looked just as good.

[QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

rhaigun

the guy only asked for a single proof of that so-called superiority, why don't you just provide it then?

now we're talking!

Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.ThisIsSW

Oh yeah and who's specs are YOU GOING by?????

Here try doing some research.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1

"Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI." Kameo says HI!!! A 360 launch title that not only had hundreds and hundreds of characters on screen with it's own AI it also has better textures than any PS3 game to date. This was a 360 launch title.swanlee

And you have also never played a PS3. Im sorry but Kameo looks like utter trash compared to HS. Better textures? HS textures destroy Heavnly sword from head to toe. Not to mention Kameo uses the same troll over and over again and they dont do a dam thing they just stand there and get ran over by a horse they have no AI at all. At least the soldiers in HS throw combos they also look much better and dont all look the same like the reahsed troll used 1000 times in Kameo.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="rhaigun"]

OMG! HS has 1,000's of enemies on screen at once? To bad they're all retarded.Polaris_choice

Not really they still block and throw counters but yes you can easily dispatch them as at that point in the game you are extremly powerful regardless there a hell of alot smarter then the zombies in Dead Rising and the visuals stomp the crap out of Dead Rising which brings me back to my point of technical superiority HS simply looks better then anything on the 360.

Im aruging with a fanboy obviously so it really doesnt matter .I played the game youhavent,I own both consoles so I could care less what looks better but my eyes dont lie. You said HS has mediocre character desighn? Um it utterly stomps any game on the 360 in terms of char desghin right now. As for Mass Effect we wont count that becauseits not even out yet but you want to talk about beautiful animations not only does HS have much more animationsthen Mass Effect but its far harder to show someone wield duel swords around in multiple combos the it is to show someone aim a gun and you want to tell me Mass Effects animations are more impressive? lmao, but if you want to bring up animations bring up Uncharted it has better animations then any game Period.

And yes, the character designs are mediocre. Everything about the game reminds me of God of War and Shinobi mixed together. Although, the bosses kind of remind me of MGS bosses, but mutated andfar less cool. Or, difficult for that matter.

[QUOTE="ThisIsSW"]Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.kingtito

Oh yeah and who's specs are YOU GOING by?????

Here try doing some research.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1

More developers that wont even tell there name are acheivements. Sorry but everyone knows the PS3 is more powerful just harder to develope for.

[QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

Polaris_choice

the guy only asked for a single proof of that so-called superiority, why don't you just provide it then?

the video wasnt enough? ive seen killzone and it doesnt touch rage, even in motion.

Is that a joke? Look at all the action on screen in KZ2 it stomps Rage as for rage its recyling the same textures over and over again. KZ2 hasnt even implemented texture streaming yet as the developer has said. Most the texutures are place holders and the lighing system in KZ2 as I said makes rage look primative. Even the Red lights off the Hellghast eyes can be seen refelecting off there suites when fighting.

Yea make Rage look primitive, Rage will kill that game on all levels.

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="rhaigun"][QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="rhaigun"]

OMG! HS has 1,000's of enemies on screen at once? To bad they're all retarded.rhaigun

Not really they still block and throw counters but yes you can easily dispatch them as at that point in the game you are extremly powerful regardless there a hell of alot smarter then the zombies in Dead Rising and the visuals stomp the crap out of Dead Rising which brings me back to my point of technical superiority HS simply looks better then anything on the 360.

Im aruging with a fanboy obviously so it really doesnt matter .I played the game youhavent,I own both consoles so I could care less what looks better but my eyes dont lie. You said HS has mediocre character desighn? Um it utterly stomps any game on the 360 in terms of char desghin right now. As for Mass Effect we wont count that becauseits not even out yet but you want to talk about beautiful animations not only does HS have much more animationsthen Mass Effect but its far harder to show someone wield duel swords around in multiple combos the it is to show someone aim a gun and you want to tell me Mass Effects animations are more impressive? lmao, but if you want to bring up animations bring up Uncharted it has better animations then any game Period.

And yes, the character designs are mediocre. Everything about the game reminds me of God of War and Shinobi mixed together. Although, the bosses kind of remind me of MGS bosses, but mutated andfar less cool. Or, difficult for that matter.

Um I have seen the new vidoes Mass Effect is one of my top 3 most anticipated games of the year but if you want to tell me there is any game on the 360 that is currently out that has better char models you are delusional.

[QUOTE="kingtito"]

[QUOTE="ThisIsSW"]Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.Polaris_choice

Oh yeah and who's specs are YOU GOING by?????

Here try doing some research.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1

More developers that wont even tell there name are acheivements. Sorry but everyone knows the PS3 is more powerful just harder to develope for.

[QUOTE="rhaigun"]Whatever. You obviously haven't seen the new videos. Some of the conversation segments remind me of Final Fantasy: Spirits Within. The facial animations are THAT good. Don't tell me about fanboyism. I have a PS2. I'm just waiting for a price drop and some good games on PS3.

And yes, the character designs are mediocre. Everything about the game reminds me of God of War and Shinobi mixed together. Although, the bosses kind of remind me of MGS bosses, but mutated andfar less cool. Or, difficult for that matter.

Polaris_choice

Um I have seen the new vidoes Mass Effect is one of my top 3 most anticipated games of the year but if you want to tell me there is any game on the 360 that is currently out that has better char models you are delusional.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2007/09/16/developer-xbox-360-games-keeping-up-to-ps3-but-not-for-long/carljohnson3456

"I aint Insecure,but tell me im great."

-CJ

"undisclosed developer" = complete fabrication, but yeah I guess when you are drowning you grasp at anything that will float.

360 titles only "keeping up" BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH

Thats a good one.

Riverwolf007

Rage tech demo-

Motorstorm a PS3 launch game looked just as good.

killzowned24

Motorstorms a launch game now?

Well, aside from the fact that "an undisclosed developer talking to gamerblorge" has about as much credibility as Jack Thompson when it comes to video game development, I believe either the article or your interpretation of it to be flawed.

Of course it will be harder to port games from PS3 to X360, it is widely known that it is harder to condense code made for several processing units down to just 2. That fact alone, however, tells us nothing about the quality of games each system is capable of, just that it is harder to port from PS3 because of the systems unique architecture...

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]

Rage tech demo-

Motorstorm a PS3 launch game looked just as good.

hoagey

Motorstorms a launch game now?

Technically it is a European launch game isn't it?

[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="leviathan91"]I'll believe it when I see it. ;)Admyrr6

Just Like how games like Heavenly Sword !! LAIR !! METAL GEAR SOLID !! GRAM TUIRSMO Surpassed Xbox Graphical King Gears of War. For how long have we heard PS3 is Less Graphically Powerfull, and what have we seen ? PS3 Doing Insane AI ( Heavenly Sword ) Insane Graphics ( Gran Turismo 5 ) Insane physics ( Killzone, Lair ).

Thank you

Please tell us more about Killzone's physics, since you have played the actual game and all.

As for your list of games that surpassed Gears. I wont even take it serously. You must be joking.

Just got back home, no i wasnt jokking..

im gona quote this guy from games trailer, only the part about Killzones Physics.

Have you ever played Killzone?
More than likely not. I took the liberty of purchasing a used copy over the weekend and ran through campaign mode - it was not the game I had thought it would be. Hearing all this "ZOMG KILLFACE 1 SUCKED DONKEY NUTZ!" all the time is just plain rubbish. It's not a stand-out title, don't get me wrong, but it is far from horrible. Having played through the game I made certain to pay attention to ANYTHING that would jump out at me as being similar to Killzone 2. Sadly, I did not find anything other than the Helghast, an ISA Rifle, Rico and a few other animations. KZ1 suffered from PLENTY bugs (I witnessed this, I know) but the gameplay wasn't as loose as I would have imagined. There were times I felt things could have been polished here and there but overall it was decent gameplay, nice graphics (for PS2), slip-shot story and bugs galore.

We don't know anything about the story of KZ2 other than the ISA is invading Helghan (according to E3). The gameplay footage from KZ2 is nothing like KZ1 - it's an entirely different beast. Watching the trailer and some gameplay from E3 and a quick 5 minute run through KZ1 is all you need to tell the two apart. worlds apart. There is an entirely new gameplay layout in Killzone 2 - much improved from the previous, let me tell you that. More videos will probably add more solidity to these claims - but NOTHING we've seen so far from KZ2 can warrant ANY negativity at this point. Killzone: 1 - Naysayers: 0

Blood is thicker than water.
And this is a true statement. This is the first time in a console shooter that I have EVER seen real-time physics being applied to BLOOD when you shoot an enemy. YES - it's not just some random red blob texture that is thrown on a wall or shoots out of a Helghast's body - it's actual dynamic liquid. So dynamic, in fact, that it has its own physics properties. It dries over time and even changes color - all the while maintaining a true-to-life liquid-esque physics property. Killzone: 2 - Naysayers: 0

It's not the size that counts, it's the motion of the ocean.
Motion. Animation. Physics. I find the realism of watching a Helghast get pumped full of lead pleasantly disturbing. This takes rag-doll physics to a whole new level by introducing the simplest of nervous-system reactions: convulsing. Enemies not only react ot being shot - but they react to WHERE they've been shot. If you'll take note during some of the videos of KZ2 - you'll notice that while shooting a Helghast - his arms may drop his weapon - his head begins to bounce around and his body convulses. This is to emulate how a real-life biped would react upon being pumped with 30 or so rounds. Take special note how the legs are the first to give out while the upper body remains rigid - this simulates the nervous system going into shock. To keep things short: some of the most spectacular death animations with a combination of both real-time rag-doll location specific and pre-set animations. Killzone: 3 - Naysayers: 0

Ninja-Matic

This was only 1/3 of his part post, u can check the rest here:

http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t=131983

And my List, yeah they all surpass ANOTHER SHOOTER, all Xbox has is Shooter. Its a Shooters consoles :s

I really love shooters, but i hate getting flood by them. About the Graphics, Heavenly Sword, Lair and Gran Turismo 5 do surpass Gears graphical Bar ;) See it for yourself, borrow your friends PS3 and Look at Heavenly Sword and Lair on 1080p.. you'l be surprised, as for Gran Turismo, thoes videos on Gamestrailer and Pictures are enough ;)

Let me add 2 Pictures for you

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Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.

TyrantDragon55

Really? Because from what I've seen they all just stand around waiting for their turn to fight (which kind of makes the numbers pointless in a way). As for Gran Turismo, yes it looksamazing but PGR4 looks pretty close, and it's also not out yet so we have no idea what kind of problems it might have (I don't remember Lair having frame-rate problems in any of it's hype videos). Frame-rate is not the only problem with Lair's graphics: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24532.html

Your saying PGR4

Looks Close to THIS ? ( GT5 )

Im Sorry buddy, but i dont agree with you. Gran Turismo 5 looks Generations AHEAD!

"Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI." Kameo says HI!!! A 360 launch title that not only had hundreds and hundreds of characters on screen with it's own AI it also has better textures than any PS3 game to date. This was a 360 launch title.swanlee

LOL YOU ALMOST GOT ME

Hello Kameo ( Mr.Xbox lanuch title )

HELLOF HELLO HEAVENLY SWORD!!

All of those Soilders have there OWN SPEICAL AI, and they all show on the screen aswell :s..

( those who were talking dead rising, dead risings AI is being shares by the 1000 units, in other words they all have the same AI)

As for Graphical Power

Hello Again Hevenly Sword!!

ONE more time, the Beauty and the Beast

Sorry, but HS looks better :p