Developer: The PS3 will surpass the abilities of the 360 completely

[QUOTE="swanlee"]"Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI." Kameo says HI!!! A 360 launch title that not only had hundreds and hundreds of characters on screen with it's own AI it also has better textures than any PS3 game to date. This was a 360 launch title.naughtydog360

LOL YOU ALMOST GOT ME

Hello Kameo ( Mr.Xbox lanuch title )

HELLOF HELLO HEAVENLY SWORD!!

All of those Soilders have there OWN SPEICAL AI, and they all show on the screen aswell :s..

( those who were talking dead rising, dead risings AI is being shares by the 1000 units, in other words they all have the same AI)

As for Graphical Power

Hello Again Hevenly Sword!!

ONE more time, the Beauty and the Beast

Sorry, but HS looks better :p

[QUOTE="ThisIsSW"]Why is this even being argued? The fact is that the PS3 is more powerful and capable than the X360. The specs prove it, the games prove it, and the developers admit it. Enough is enough.kingtito

Oh yeah and who's specs are YOU GOING by?????

Here try doing some research.

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2453&p=7

http://dpad.gotfrag.com/portal/story/35372/?spage=1

By Look at Pictures, PS3 Wins the Graphical bar. X360 doesnt even touch it, your tech specs mean nothing. For Months and Months we heard lemmings bashing and repeatedly saying PS3 will never Surpass Xbox 360 Graphical bar. And What do we have now ? Games Like Gran Turismo, Heavenly sword, Lair, Killzone 2 have allready surpassed Xbox360s Graphics.

why is it that all these articles that detract the 360 saying its weak and the ps3 will surpass it are all ways from UNAMED Devs?WilliamRLBaker

I Dunoo, but i heard valve hint the same thing

.. For the 360 version of the game, we can probably say we are using around 93-94% of the console's power given our current optimization. With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell .. valve

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-62874.aspx

In other words " OMG 94% of x360s power = just teh power of PPU of the CELL "

this is valve were talking about BTW :p

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]why is it that all these articles that detract the 360 saying its weak and the ps3 will surpass it are all ways from UNAMED Devs?naughtydog360

I Dunoo, but i heard valve hint the same thing

.. For the 360 version of the game, we can probably say we are using around 93-94% of the console's power given our current optimization. With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell .. valve

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-62874.aspx

In other words " OMG 94% of x360s power = just teh power of PPU of the CELL "

this is valve were talking about BTW :p

[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]why is it that all these articles that detract the 360 saying its weak and the ps3 will surpass it are all ways from UNAMED Devs?VACASCULIADAS

I Dunoo, but i heard valve hint the same thing

.. For the 360 version of the game, we can probably say we are using around 93-94% of the console's power given our current optimization. With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell .. valve

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-62874.aspx

In other words " OMG 94% of x360s power = just teh power of PPU of the CELL "

this is valve were talking about BTW :p

Link before trying selfowning or you'l end up owning your self

[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]why is it that all these articles that detract the 360 saying its weak and the ps3 will surpass it are all ways from UNAMED Devs?naughtydog360

I Dunoo, but i heard valve hint the same thing

.. For the 360 version of the game, we can probably say we are using around 93-94% of the console's power given our current optimization. With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell .. valve

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-62874.aspx

In other words " OMG 94% of x360s power = just teh power of PPU of the CELL "

this is valve were talking about BTW :p

Link before trying selfowning or you'l end up owning your self

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.

naughtydog360

Really? Because from what I've seen they all just stand around waiting for their turn to fight (which kind of makes the numbers pointless in a way). As for Gran Turismo, yes it looksamazing but PGR4 looks pretty close, and it's also not out yet so we have no idea what kind of problems it might have (I don't remember Lair having frame-rate problems in any of it's hype videos). Frame-rate is not the only problem with Lair's graphics: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24532.html

Your saying PGR4

Looks Close to THIS ? ( GT5 )

Im Sorry buddy, but i dont agree with you. Gran Turismo 5 looks Generations AHEAD!

Wait, you just compared no HUD bullshots of GT5 to HUD and all gameplay shot of PGR4...

[QUOTE="TyrantDragon55"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI. Every Soilder has his own Artificial intelligence. Fact: No Xbox Game has yet done that, othing with 100+. ( Note: Games like Dead rising, which have tons of Characters in the Screen, they all share there AI )

Read what i said, i used Gran Turismo 5 As the Graphical Mammoth of the PS3, can Xbox Do the the Same ? nope

Heres there new pcis of GT5

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-68137.aspx

And about Lair Graphical problems, just a quick fact, HALO 1 Also had certain Graphics Framerate problems but it still succeeded. Graphical problems doesnt effect alot, there not annoying unless you have them ALL THE TIME IMO.

naughtydog360

Really? Because from what I've seen they all just stand around waiting for their turn to fight (which kind of makes the numbers pointless in a way). As for Gran Turismo, yes it looksamazing but PGR4 looks pretty close, and it's also not out yet so we have no idea what kind of problems it might have (I don't remember Lair having frame-rate problems in any of it's hype videos). Frame-rate is not the only problem with Lair's graphics: http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24532.html

Your saying PGR4

*PGR4 picture*

Looks Close to THIS ? ( GT5 )

*GT5 picture *

Im Sorry buddy, but i dont agree with you. Gran Turismo 5 looks Generations AHEAD!

I admit the difference is there, but it's not nearly as huge as you'd like to believe it is (especially when you don't cherry pic screenshots). No response to my other points?

[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="swanlee"]"Heavenly Sword has a Scene which has 100+ Soilders, what amazing about them is that THEY ALL HAVE THERE OWN SPECIAL AI." Kameo says HI!!! A 360 launch title that not only had hundreds and hundreds of characters on screen with it's own AI it also has better textures than any PS3 game to date. This was a 360 launch title._AsasN_

LOL YOU ALMOST GOT ME

Hello Kameo ( Mr.Xbox lanuch title )

HELLOF HELLO HEAVENLY SWORD!!

All of those Soilders have there OWN SPEICAL AI, and they all show on the screen aswell :s..

( those who were talking dead rising, dead risings AI is being shares by the 1000 units, in other words they all have the same AI)

As for Graphical Power

Hello Again Hevenly Sword!!

ONE more time, the Beauty and the Beast

Sorry, but HS looks better :p

agreed. this KAmeo nonsense needs to stop. heavenly sword is 100 x better than that silly game.

[QUOTE="naughtydog360"][QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]why is it that all these articles that detract the 360 saying its weak and the ps3 will surpass it are all ways from UNAMED Devs?VACASCULIADAS

I Dunoo, but i heard valve hint the same thing

.. For the 360 version of the game, we can probably say we are using around 93-94% of the console's power given our current optimization. With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell .. valve

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-62874.aspx

In other words " OMG 94% of x360s power = just teh power of PPU of the CELL "

this is valve were talking about BTW :p

Link before trying selfowning or you'l end up owning your self

your funny..

From the Very own site you posted

[Quote"PSU"] UPDATE : PSU.com Official Response to "Faked" Interview Claim.

"Contrary to recent claims - we did not fake a recent interview with Valve. This is a wildly preposterous and libellous accusation that is completely unfounded and we treat it extremely seriously.

We have no reason to "fake" an interview and we would urge any proponent of this claim to take a serious, revised and considered look at our list of recent interviews we have conducted with many of the leading games development companies, publishers and industry experts in future before making such a baseless claim.

why would they fake an interview ?

are people lacking commen sense ? or arent they reading ?

now if we look at the site i gave u

Updates: Interview pulled by request from Valve. N4g

anything else ?

[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"][QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]why is it that all these articles that detract the 360 saying its weak and the ps3 will surpass it are all ways from UNAMED Devs?naughtydog360

I Dunoo, but i heard valve hint the same thing

.. For the 360 version of the game, we can probably say we are using around 93-94% of the console's power given our current optimization. With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell .. valve

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-62874.aspx

In other words " OMG 94% of x360s power = just teh power of PPU of the CELL "

this is valve were talking about BTW :p

Link before trying selfowning or you'l end up owning your self

your funny..

From the Very own site you posted

[Quote"PSU"] UPDATE : PSU.com Official Response to "Faked" Interview Claim.

"Contrary to recent claims - we did not fake a recent interview with Valve. This is a wildly preposterous and libellous accusation that is completely unfounded and we treat it extremely seriously.

We have no reason to "fake" an interview and we would urge any proponent of this claim to take a serious, revised and considered look at our list of recent interviews we have conducted with many of the leading games development companies, publishers and industry experts in future before making such a baseless claim.

why would they fake an interview ?

are people lacking commen sense ? or arent they reading ?

now if we look at the site i gave u

Updates: Interview pulled by request from Valve. N4g

anything else ?

People also take the % meaning out of context, guess people lack common sense.

[QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"][QUOTE="VACASCULIADAS"][QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]why is it that all these articles that detract the 360 saying its weak and the ps3 will surpass it are all ways from UNAMED Devs?naughtydog360

I Dunoo, but i heard valve hint the same thing

.. For the 360 version of the game, we can probably say we are using around 93-94% of the console's power given our current optimization. With the PS3, we can't exactly say what power cap we reached, since no developer really knows where the boundary is for the PS3. We can tell you that in terms of the whole game together on the PS3, we are not even using the SPU's and it is purely built on the graphics card and Cell .. valve

http://www.n4g.com/industrynews/NewsCom-62874.aspx

In other words " OMG 94% of x360s power = just teh power of PPU of the CELL "

this is valve were talking about BTW :p

Link before trying selfowning or you'l end up owning your self

your funny..

From the Very own site you posted

[Quote"PSU"] UPDATE : PSU.com Official Response to "Faked" Interview Claim.

"Contrary to recent claims - we did not fake a recent interview with Valve. This is a wildly preposterous and libellous accusation that is completely unfounded and we treat it extremely seriously.

We have no reason to "fake" an interview and we would urge any proponent of this claim to take a serious, revised and considered look at our list of recent interviews we have conducted with many of the leading games development companies, publishers and industry experts in future before making such a baseless claim.

why would they fake an interview ?

are people lacking commen sense ? or arent they reading ?

now if we look at the site i gave u

Updates: Interview pulled by request from Valve. N4g

anything else ?

This is a wildly preposterous and libellous accusation that is completely unfounded and we treat it extremely seriously.

We have no reason to "fake" an interview and we would urge any proponent of this claim to take a serious and revised look at our long and growing list of interviews we have conducted with many of the leading games development companies, publishers and industry experts. (See link below).

PSU Interviews List

For the benefit of our readership and to once and for all quash this speculative nonsense we thought it best to issue a brief public statement.

Some Background

- The article went up circumventing our editors and normal quality control procedures which was the primary reason for the article containing certain spelling/grammar issues.

- The interview was also conducted over the telephone - not by e-mail which meant much of the responses had to be rewritten, leading to some other quality issues.

- We fully accept that the quality was poor, but these were the actions of a rogue journalist and were not authorized by myself or any of the senior site staff.

- The authors names were not given at the request of the authors themselves. I found this strange myself, and we did add the author names in eventually after we had sought permission to do so.

- And finally at Gabe Newell's (Founder of Valve) request, we were asked to pull the article because it ended up being posted at N4G and we were specifically asked not to post in on that site.

- This was a communication issue which upset him and although I do not understand the logic behind it not going on N4G, that is a completely separate issue.

PSU.com post numerous interviews every week from a wide variety of developers and whilst the site staff fully accept that the article did not meet our usual high standards the claim that the article is "fake" is a false one.

Excpect a brand new interview with Valve Software in the near future.

Seb Hayes
Managing Director - GameBurst Media Ltd
seb.hayes@psu.com

The world anxiously awaits Gabe Newell's clarification on this ever so truthful interview cows continue to use as "proof" of PS3 power and 360 weakness. This is some of the funniest damage control ever from a site. If you look through the Gamespot forums this article has a rather sordid history.

[QUOTE="naughtydog360"]

your funny..

From the Very own site you posted

[Quote"PSU"] UPDATE : PSU.com Official Response to "Faked" Interview Claim.

"Contrary to recent claims - we did not fake a recent interview with Valve. This is a wildly preposterous and libellous accusation that is completely unfounded and we treat it extremely seriously.

We have no reason to "fake" an interview and we would urge any proponent of this claim to take a serious, revised and considered look at our list of recent interviews we have conducted with many of the leading games development companies, publishers and industry experts in future before making such a baseless claim. VACASCULIADAS

why would they fake an interview ?

are people lacking commen sense ? or arent they reading ?

now if we look at the site i gave u

Updates: Interview pulled by request from Valve. N4g

anything else ?

Also, the original PSU interview named two Valve employees. Ironically, neither person actually worked for Valve. PSU screwed up bad, lol.

There's a saying that goes, "The proof of the pudding is in the eating." Applying the saying to consoles, you get, "The power of a console can be judge by the games developed for it.".

Why continue to argue about tech specs like it's 2005, when there are actual games that can be used to judge the consoles? I mean, does anyone really still believe EGM's nonsense from a couple years ago, quoting an anonymous developer as saying that the PS3 is "orders of magnitude more powerful" than the 360 (which means at least 100 times more powerful (two orders of magnitude))? Such statements have been shown to be pure malarky by the games that have been made. People play games, not tech specs.

"undisclosed developer" = complete fabrication

Riverwolf007

yeah that just killed whatever credibility this thread had

[QUOTE="Polaris_choice"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"][QUOTE="SambaLele"][QUOTE="MrGrimFandango"]

Oh no the lighting in open day light, sorry not everything has to be in absolute darkness to hide the terrible textures.

MrGrimFandango

the guy only asked for a single proof of that so-called superiority, why don't you just provide it then?

the video wasnt enough? ive seen killzone and it doesnt touch rage, even in motion.

Is that a joke? Look at all the action on screen in KZ2 it stomps Rage as for rage its recyling the same textures over and over again. KZ2 hasnt even implemented texture streaming yet as the developer has said. Most the texutures are place holders and the lighing system in KZ2 as I said makes rage look primative. Even the Red lights off the Hellghast eyes can be seen refelecting off there suites when fighting.

Yea make Rage look primitive, Rage will kill that game on all levels.

I doubt it but if it does its multiplat and is said to look and run the same on all platforms.

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

"undisclosed developer" = complete fabrication

mwa

yeah that just killed whatever credibility this thread had

I guess that kills the creadablity of the articles on Dfrag that went up about 10 monthes ago about the 360 being more powerful as they would never list there names either.

[QUOTE="mwa"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

"undisclosed developer" = complete fabrication

Polaris_choice

yeah that just killed whatever credibility this thread had

I guess that kills the creadablity of the articles on Dfrag that went up about 10 monthes ago about the 360 being more powerful as they would never list there names either.

wth is Dfrag?

the gap between the PS3 & X360 in power is minimal- nowhere near anything like PS2 vs Xbox.

so in the future the PS3 might be a little better than X360 but not by much & even so it will be too late for Sony to win the console war.

Not that it matters but didn't last gen prove that the supposed most powerful system doesn't always win? The Xbox never caught up to the PS2 and the Xbox had far and away better hardware and MUCH better looking games. This gen the hardware is much much closer. So why are Sony and COWS now trying to claim the edge in power when it's obvious that has never really meant much in the first place? Look at the WIIswanlee

Exactly. I bought a launch day Xbox (and argued all day long about it it's power), however none of that mattered. Matter of fact , I told myself I would never again bother buying a system based on hardware. Good hardware does not matter to the average consumer, they look at game selection.

The only reason I stayed with MS in this gen was because they were first out, I fgured if they flopped, I could trade in towards another system.

Look at last gen, did better looking and or playing multiplats on Xbox matter to the PS2 consumer?????? Hell no.