Developers: Development Costs Are Double To Develop on NextBox

This right here is the one thing that could ensure the Wii U's victory next generation. With development costs already hitting obscenely high ceilings this generation, apparently, the next batch of consoles is upping the ante even more, pushing development costs to as much as double that of a regular HD game. Developers working in creating sequels in established franchises on the NextBox were reported complaining about this recently.

Developers with access to the Durango (the code name for Microsoft's next console) are seeing costs rise sharply, primarily due to higher polygon counts and better textures required."I'm having to double my budget for models," said one developer working on a sequel to an earlier title that appeared on Xbox 360 and PS3. "If we want to take advantage of Durango's capabilities it takes a lot more time for each model." This can also result in either a longer time to develop a title, or the need to put more artists on, or both.

Similar budget issues are expected for the PlayStation 4 (codename 'Orbis') and the Wii U.The Wii U's development costs will be higher than Wii titles due to increased resolution, but utilizing the tablet controller will also mean additional time in design. Some uses for the tablet controller seem obvious, like diagramming plays in a Madden game using your finger.Using the tablet controller in other games may be more challenging, depending on how much the developers want to create something unique for the Wii U (spending extra on that development that is not needed for other platforms).

At a time when many console titles have been finding it more difficult to make a profit, the prospect of doubling already considerable budgets is not making publishers happy. They are already looking to find ways to increase the revenue potential of their development efforts.GI BIZ

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TCHBR

A lot of games don't break even as is, this could be very bad news indeed.

bu bu kinectbox :(

TCHBR

waltefmoney

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

bu bu kinectbox :(

TCHBR

charizard1605

raped

Oh man, now there will be even less risks taken next gen.

Gen of the military FPS commence!

All assets are made in high spec, so i dont undertsand what they mean

A lot of games don't break even as is, this could be very bad news indeed.

tenaka2

I don't get hermits. First they say they want powerful consoles so more games take advantage of their PC's hardware, then they whine about it.

What can we really expect from this industry anymore at that point? It only gets worse from here, folks.

Then we are to expect more milkage, more dlc, more drm, less originality and less games in general. What is the point of advancing if this is where its leading.Androvinus

Switch to smartphone gaming, problem solved.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

A lot of games don't break even as is, this could be very bad news indeed.

waltefmoney

I don't get hermits. First they say they want powerful consoles so more games take advantage of their PC's hardware, then they whine about it.

Less games with less creativity and less risk taking is bad for all gamers.

Less games with less creativity and less risk taking is bad for all gamers.

tenaka2

Obviously it is, so what's your advice?

Then we are to expect more milkage, more dlc, more drm, less originality and less games in general. What is the point of advancing if this is where its leading.Androvinus

[QUOTE="Androvinus"]Then we are to expect more milkage, more dlc, more drm, less originality and less games in general. What is the point of advancing if this is where its leading.charizard1605

So you admit WiiU is as powerful as Vita?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Less games with less creativity and less risk taking is bad for all gamers.

waltefmoney

Obviously it is, so what's your advice?

All development should take place for the PC and its cheaper, then the successful games could be ported to consoles.

All development should take place for the PC and its cheaper, then the successful games could be ported to consoles.

tenaka2

Then we'd only get Blizzard games and MMO's on consoles.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Androvinus"]Then we are to expect more milkage, more dlc, more drm, less originality and less games in general. What is the point of advancing if this is where its leading.KiZZo1

So you admit WiiU is as powerful as Vita?

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

All development should take place for the PC and its cheaper, then the successful games could be ported to consoles.

waltefmoney

Then we'd only get Blizzard games and MMO's on consoles.

Along with the odd shooter and city builder!

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Handhelds and the Wii U.charizard1605

So you admit WiiU is as powerful as Vita?

Because your OP claims that higher power requires higher budgets, condemning those platforms to negative consequences, and then you recommend as a course of action to stick to WiiU and the handhelds, thereby admitting that they are roughly the same in power.

It's subconscious stuff, you may not willingly admit it, but deep down there, you know it.

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

So you admit WiiU is as powerful as Vita?

KiZZo1

Because your OP claims that higher power requires higher budgets, condemning those platforms to negative consequences, and then you recommend as a course of action to stick to WiiU and the handhelds, thereby admitting that they are roughly the same in power.

It's subconscious stuff, you may not willingly admit it, but deep down there, you know it.

Along with the odd shooter and city builder!

tenaka2

Correct. I don't wanna depend on you guys and your bad taste.

[QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Not in the slightest. I don't see where you got that from.charizard1605

Because your OP claims that higher power requires higher budgets, condemning those platforms to negative consequences, and then you recommend as a course of action to stick to WiiU and the handhelds, thereby admitting that they are roughly the same in power.

It's subconscious stuff, you may not willingly admit it, but deep down there, you know it.

You seem upset ...

[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="KiZZo1"]

Because your OP claims that higher power requires higher budgets, condemning those platforms to negative consequences, and then you recommend as a course of action to stick to WiiU and the handhelds, thereby admitting that they are roughly the same in power.

It's subconscious stuff, you may not willingly admit it, but deep down there, you know it.

KiZZo1

You seem upset ...

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Along with the odd shooter and city builder!

waltefmoney

Correct. I don't wanna depend on you guys and your bad taste.

See, ya can't even have a decent conversation with you guys without it resulting in personal insults...

See, ya can't even have a decent conversation with you guys without it resulting in personal insults...

tenaka2

Oh come on, we both know I don't mean it.

Better graphics don't automatically mean higher expenses. Metro 2033 was one of the best-looking games of 2010 despite being made with a "low-cost development model". They didn't waste any money on nonsense like famous voice actor cameos.

Unfortunately, greedy publishers might try to use this new generation's advances as an excuse to bump game prices to $70.

No shock at all, each generation becomes more and more risky to develop new IPs and exclusives. It's scary when you think about it.

Looks like even more developers will be jumping to PC and just maybe Wii-U/handhelds.

This is BS.

For the most part, models and textures are made at much higher qualities than we see on games today. They are then optimized for the target platform. Even if it's true that they will require more effort, I can't imagine that it would be that much more.

So instead of games companies making $100 million profits a year, we will see them making $50 million a year ( obviously a guessed number but they do make a ton ) . I think the only ones to suffer will be the smaller and indie teams.

That makes no sense. Why would new hardware inherently drive up development costs by so much? Unless maybe MS is requiring 60 fps, 1080p, and other types of minimums.

Unnamed Dev. has no Cred...

:P

A lot of games don't break even as is, this could be very bad news indeed.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

A lot of games don't break even as is, this could be very bad news indeed.

waltefmoney

I don't get hermits. First they say they want powerful consoles so more games take advantage of their PC's hardware, then they whine about it.

Ahah, it's true indeed.

This right here is the one thing that could ensure the Wii U's victory next generation. With development costs already hitting obscenely high ceilings this generation, apparently, the next batch of consoles is upping the ante even more, pushing development costs to as much as double that of a regular HD game. Developers working in creating sequels in established franchises on the NextBox were reported complaining about this recently.

[Quote="GI BIZ"]Developers with access to the Durango (the code name for Microsoft's next console) are seeing costs rise sharply, primarily due to higher polygon counts and better textures required."I'm having to double my budget for models," said one developer working on a sequel to an earlier title that appeared on Xbox 360 and PS3. "If we want to take advantage of Durango's capabilities it takes a lot more time for each model." This can also result in either a longer time to develop a title, or the need to put more artists on, or both.

Similar budget issues are expected for the PlayStation 4 (codename 'Orbis') and the Wii U.The Wii U's development costs will be higher than Wii titles due to increased resolution, but utilizing the tablet controller will also mean additional time in design. Some uses for the tablet controller seem obvious, like diagramming plays in a Madden game using your finger.Using the tablet controller in other games may be more challenging, depending on how much the developers want to create something unique for the Wii U (spending extra on that development that is not needed for other platforms).

At a time when many console titles have been finding it more difficult to make a profit, the prospect of doubling already considerable budgets is not making publishers happy. They are already looking to find ways to increase the revenue potential of their development efforts.charizard1605

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

A lot of games don't break even as is, this could be very bad news indeed.

rawsavon

[QUOTE="rawsavon"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

A lot of games don't break even as is, this could be very bad news indeed.

AzatiS

Same thing happen from last gen to this one. It's the reason why so many JRPGs went to handhelds it had cost too much to make the games for the system. The cost has gone down now, but we will see the same thing happen again next gen. HarlockJC

I really don't see why devs would have to completely remake assets in this generational shift.

All to implement garbage kinect controls...Lems are reeling and cant catch a break..TLHBO.Heil68

You smell of jealousy.

[QUOTE="Heil68"]All to implement garbage kinect controls...Lems are reeling and cant catch a break..TLHBO.waltefmoney

You smell of jealousy.