2014 will be the year of the two mighty beast dragons. The Ps4 and Xbox 720. WiiU might be dead by 2014 if they don't have an amazing E3 and Wow us over the other two consoles.
Predicting RIP WiiU 2014.
Developers: Wii U is in serious trouble
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[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]
People act like Nintendo has no idea what they are doing, and have always been teetering on collapse. Can't be further from the truth. The Wii was considered a mistake for a long time. Look how that went.
Gue1
Nes = Epic
Snes = things can't get any better than this
N64 = terrible console
GC = even worse
Wii = just lucky with the casuals
Wii U = casuals don't give a fuk and now they are f*ked
Nintendo clearly has no idea what they are doing. Iwata's so desperate he said he would resign if Wii U sales don't get better!
wut.
The Gamecube and the N64 were excellent systems. Maybe not the PS1/PS2, but excellent systems in their own right.
I hope WiiU get more games than Pikmin 3/Wonderful 101, cuz this is not enough :(
aroxx_ab
That Lego game looks enticing.
Yeah... they need to put up more though. I bet Yoshi Yarn will come out around Summer probably at least.
I also heard something about unannounced games on these spring/summer months that they haven't told us about.
Nintendo needs to grow some balls and have a first party game that wows the hardcore crowed. I am talking about a violent action game that is awesome that can rival games like Halo, Call Of Duty, Gears of War or Uncharted.
Nintendo need to do it to sell consoles and show they support all gamers.
Sorry, but trying to appeal to the "hardcore" crowd only worked in the N64 era. If the Bayonetta 2 controversy proved anything, it won't work now.Nintendo needs to grow some balls and have a first party game that wows the hardcore crowed. I am talking about a violent action game that is awesome that can rival games like Halo, Call Of Duty, Gears of War or Uncharted.
Nintendo need to do it to sell consoles and show they support all gamers.
Mrmedia01
[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]Sorry, but trying to appeal to the "hardcore" crowd only worked in the N64 era. If the Bayonetta 2 controversy proved anything, it won't work now. How could the Bayonetta 2 controversy have proven anything? The game hasn't released yet, so how do you know it won't sell?Nintendo needs to grow some balls and have a first party game that wows the hardcore crowed. I am talking about a violent action game that is awesome that can rival games like Halo, Call Of Duty, Gears of War or Uncharted.
Nintendo need to do it to sell consoles and show they support all gamers.
nintendoboy16
[QUOTE="jimkabrhel"]When was this?People act like Nintendo has no idea what they are doing, and have always been teetering on collapse. Can't be further from the truth. The Wii was considered a mistake for a long time. Look how that went.
fernandmondego_
On these boards when the Wii was released. All the gloom and doom for Nintendo and they outsold the competition.
[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]Sorry, but trying to appeal to the "hardcore" crowd only worked in the N64 era. If the Bayonetta 2 controversy proved anything, it won't work now.Pickings were slim but there was a large fanbase coming from the SNES hence why the N64 sold both hardware and software pretty well.Nintendo needs to grow some balls and have a first party game that wows the hardcore crowed. I am talking about a violent action game that is awesome that can rival games like Halo, Call Of Duty, Gears of War or Uncharted.
Nintendo need to do it to sell consoles and show they support all gamers.
nintendoboy16
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]Sorry, but trying to appeal to the "hardcore" crowd only worked in the N64 era. If the Bayonetta 2 controversy proved anything, it won't work now. How could the Bayonetta 2 controversy have proven anything? The game hasn't released yet, so how do you know it won't sell?The last M rated games to be published by Nintendo sold like ass. Not to mention a lot of people hate the fact that Nintendo is publishing the game, so it's not that hard to see why.Nintendo needs to grow some balls and have a first party game that wows the hardcore crowed. I am talking about a violent action game that is awesome that can rival games like Halo, Call Of Duty, Gears of War or Uncharted.
Nintendo need to do it to sell consoles and show they support all gamers.
PurpleMan5000
[QUOTE="Mrmedia01"]Sorry, but trying to appeal to the "hardcore" crowd only worked in the N64 era. If the Bayonetta 2 controversy proved anything, it won't work now.Nintendo needs to grow some balls and have a first party game that wows the hardcore crowed. I am talking about a violent action game that is awesome that can rival games like Halo, Call Of Duty, Gears of War or Uncharted.
Nintendo need to do it to sell consoles and show they support all gamers.
nintendoboy16
Bayo. 2 is "controversial" because the original was a multiplat game while the sequel is WiiU-exclusive.
Sure, you can say that the very reason we're even seeing Bayo. 2 is because Nintendo picked up the game but that doesn't mean anything in a lot of gamer's eyes...
If they made their own game in that style it would be different situation altho you would probably still be seeing threads like "isn't this game too hardcorez for teh sheep?" or "wouldn't it be better on Nextbox/PSQuad?" or stuff like that...
Times like these I really do wish the N64 days were back. When Nintendo still had Rare, no one (as in gamers) gave two s***'s that Nintendo published Perfect Dark, nor did they care that Conker was releasing on there either (despite NoA and NoE not being too big of fans of the latter, hell, Nintendo Power didn't bring that game up until MUCH later).
Heck, gamers took what they could get then with Acclaim's Turok being on there as well.
But when the GameCube came out, that's when people started to care that Nintendo was trying to get a "mature" audience. Eternal Darkness and Geist selling horribly and when Resident Evil 4 WAS a GameCube exclusive, that started a similar ruckus.
Let's not even get started on what OTHER third party series is and isn't ok on their systems (back then: GameCube was allowed to have the likes of Star Wars: Rogue Squadron and Soul Calibur II, these days, they're only allowed LEGO and Sonic)
nintendoboy16
It's party Nintendo's own fault why the 3rd parties and gamers treat them as such, tbh.
On the NES, they had this "three games per year only" and "you can only develop for our systems" limitations, on the SNES they had the censorship (which they dropped just in time Mortal Kombat II came out which was probably one of the best moves they ever did besides giving Donkey Kong to Rare), on the N64 they had the expensive and limiting cartridges and made it hard to develop for (really dumb move), on the GC they had the smaller media (mini DVD) and weren't supporting online gaming, the Wii was too weak and forced motion controls and now the WiiU has it's fair share of bottlenecks and shortcommings (CPU, OS, updates, lacking online) and a controller that's turning off some 3rd parties and gamers.
They may make excellent games, but as a company they are, well, "control freaks"...
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]
Times like these I really do wish the N64 days were back. When Nintendo still had Rare, no one (as in gamers) gave two s***'s that Nintendo published Perfect Dark, nor did they care that Conker was releasing on there either (despite NoA and NoE not being too big of fans of the latter, hell, Nintendo Power didn't bring that game up until MUCH later).
Heck, gamers took what they could get then with Acclaim's Turok being on there as well.
But when the GameCube came out, that's when people started to care that Nintendo was trying to get a "mature" audience. Eternal Darkness and Geist selling horribly and when Resident Evil 4 WAS a GameCube exclusive, that started a similar ruckus.
Let's not even get started on what OTHER third party series is and isn't ok on their systems (back then: GameCube was allowed to have the likes of Star Wars: Rogue Squadron and Soul Calibur II, these days, they're only allowed LEGO and Sonic)
nameless12345
It's party Nintendo's own fault why the 3rd parties and gamers treat them as such, tbh.
On the NES, they had this "three games per year only" and "you can only develop for our systems" limitations, on the SNES they had the censorship (which they dropped just in time Mortal Kombat II came out which was probably one of the best moves they ever did besides giving Donkey Kong to Rare), on the N64 they had the expensive and limiting cartridges and made it hard to develop for (really dumb move), on the GC they had the smaller media (mini DVD) and weren't supporting online gaming, the Wii was too weak and forced motion controls and now the WiiU has it's fair share of bottlenecks and shortcommings (CPU, OS, updates, lacking online) and a controller that's turning off some 3rd parties and gamers.
They may make excellent games, but as a company they are, well, "control freaks"...
Was I talking about Nintendo's third party relationships with that post? No, just how gamers have reacted to some third party games being on their systems since the GameCube and how "mature" games in general have all but faltered since the GameCube.Also...
Bayo. 2 is "controversial" because the original was a multiplat game while the sequel is WiiU-exclusive.There's more to it than that. It's not just "Bayonetta 2 for Wii U? No Bayonetta 2 for XBOX or PlayStation? BS!"Sure, you can say that the very reason we're even seeing Bayo. 2 is because Nintendo picked up the game but that doesn't mean anything in a lot of gamer's eyes...
If they made their own game in that style it would be different situation altho you would probably still be seeing threads like "isn't this game too hardcorez for teh sheep?" or "wouldn't it be better on Nextbox/PSQuad?" or stuff like that...
nameless12345
There are complaints about a "kid friendly" company like Nintendo publishing a game for adults, nevermind the fact that Nintendo has done it before, though hasn't done it since 2005. Almost eight years from now.
And there's the fact that it's a third party exclusive on a Nintendo system, something games like the Resident Evil series (RE Zero, REmake, RE4), Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Goldeneye 2010, and No More Heroes suffered, but when games like Star Wars: Rogue Squadron (Rogue Leader and Rebel Strike, the first one was multiplat, being ported to PC) Sonic Colors and LEGO City Undercover show up as Nintendo exclusives, hardly anybody gives a s***.
[QUOTE="nameless12345"]
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]
Times like these I really do wish the N64 days were back. When Nintendo still had Rare, no one (as in gamers) gave two s***'s that Nintendo published Perfect Dark, nor did they care that Conker was releasing on there either (despite NoA and NoE not being too big of fans of the latter, hell, Nintendo Power didn't bring that game up until MUCH later).
Heck, gamers took what they could get then with Acclaim's Turok being on there as well.
But when the GameCube came out, that's when people started to care that Nintendo was trying to get a "mature" audience. Eternal Darkness and Geist selling horribly and when Resident Evil 4 WAS a GameCube exclusive, that started a similar ruckus.
Let's not even get started on what OTHER third party series is and isn't ok on their systems (back then: GameCube was allowed to have the likes of Star Wars: Rogue Squadron and Soul Calibur II, these days, they're only allowed LEGO and Sonic)
nintendoboy16
It's party Nintendo's own fault why the 3rd parties and gamers treat them as such, tbh.
On the NES, they had this "three games per year only" and "you can only develop for our systems" limitations, on the SNES they had the censorship (which they dropped just in time Mortal Kombat II came out which was probably one of the best moves they ever did besides giving Donkey Kong to Rare), on the N64 they had the expensive and limiting cartridges and made it hard to develop for (really dumb move), on the GC they had the smaller media (mini DVD) and weren't supporting online gaming, the Wii was too weak and forced motion controls and now the WiiU has it's fair share of bottlenecks and shortcommings (CPU, OS, updates, lacking online) and a controller that's turning off some 3rd parties and gamers.
They may make excellent games, but as a company they are, well, "control freaks"...
Was I talking about Nintendo's third party relationships with that post? No, just how gamers have reacted to some third party games being on their systems since the GameCube and how "mature" games in general have all but faltered since the GameCube.
The two are connected.
They had this "censorship policy" in the past hence people still think Nintendo is a "kids only" company.
It may be ignorant but there had to be reasons why some developers and gamers tend to avoid or criticize them in these matters. (and I'm not even touching subjects like "Nintendo's games are teh kiddy"; more about their relationship with the 3rd parties and "content control")
There's more to it than that. It's not just "Bayonetta 2 for Wii U? No Bayonetta 2 for XBOX or PlayStation? BS!"
There are complaints about a "kid friendly" company like Nintendo publishing a game for adults, nevermind the fact that Nintendo has done it before, though hasn't done it since 2005. Almost eight years from now.
And there's the fact that it's a third party exclusive on a Nintendo system, something games like the Resident Evil series (RE Zero, REmake, RE4), Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Goldeneye 2010, and No More Heroes suffered, but when games like Star Wars: Rogue Squadron (Rogue Leader and Rebel Strike, the first one was multiplat, being ported to PC) Sonic Colors and LEGO City Undercover show up as Nintendo exclusives, hardly anybody gives a s***.
nintendoboy16
Just to put this out there, Resident Evil Zero AND REmake are STILL Nintendo Exclusive.
Both can also be found on the Wii.
[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]It's been three damn months. Jeez, everyone just LOVES to jump on the Nintendo DOOM wagon, don't they? It makes me question if that company really DOES have fans.blackaceSame thing happened to the PS3 after it launched as well. Software sales were pretty poor to start mainly because the price of the hardware was so high. People were bringing the system back because They couldn't sell them on EBay for a profit. There's wasn't anything worth playing on the PS3 until MGS IV came over a year later. Then when the PS3 Slim came out, hardware sales took off. Nintendo may need to lower the price some, but they definitely need more must have software if they want to move more units.
You sound delusional: Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank TOD, The Eye of Judgement, Singstar, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Folklore, Resistance, and multiplats were all on PS3 its first year. How on earth were those games not worth playing? Blackace gonna blackace
Same thing happened to the PS3 after it launched as well. Software sales were pretty poor to start mainly because the price of the hardware was so high. People were bringing the system back because They couldn't sell them on EBay for a profit. There's wasn't anything worth playing on the PS3 until MGS IV came over a year later. Then when the PS3 Slim came out, hardware sales took off. Nintendo may need to lower the price some, but they definitely need more must have software if they want to move more units.[QUOTE="blackace"][QUOTE="nintendoboy16"]It's been three damn months. Jeez, everyone just LOVES to jump on the Nintendo DOOM wagon, don't they? It makes me question if that company really DOES have fans.NineTailedGoku
You sound delusional: Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank TOD, The Eye of Judgement, Singstar, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Folklore, Resistance, and multiplats were all on PS3 its first year. How on earth were those games not worth playing? Blackace gonna blackace
Just like the WiiU, the WiiU has games to play, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, ZombiU, New Super Mario Bros. U, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Ninja Gaiden 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Batman Arkham City.
Do people care? Well obviously no.
Just like the PS3 back in the day, No one rushed to go get a PS3 for Uncharted Drake's Fortune or Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm.
Heck I didn't even care about Uncharted till 2 came out and that was like 2009.
PS3 sales picked up when GTA IV and MGS IV came out heck 2008 really made the PS3 shine.
[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]
[QUOTE="blackace"] Same thing happened to the PS3 after it launched as well. Software sales were pretty poor to start mainly because the price of the hardware was so high. People were bringing the system back because They couldn't sell them on EBay for a profit. There's wasn't anything worth playing on the PS3 until MGS IV came over a year later. Then when the PS3 Slim came out, hardware sales took off. Nintendo may need to lower the price some, but they definitely need more must have software if they want to move more units. LegatoSkyheart
You sound delusional: Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank TOD, The Eye of Judgement, Singstar, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Folklore, Resistance, and multiplats were all on PS3 its first year. How on earth were those games not worth playing? Blackace gonna blackace
Just like the WiiU, the WiiU has games to play, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, ZombiU, New Super Mario Bros. U, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Ninja Gaiden 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Batman Arkham City.
Do people care? Well obviously no.
Just like the PS3 back in the day, No one rushed to go get a PS3 for Uncharted Drake's Fortune or Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm.
Heck I didn't even care about Uncharted till 2 came out and that was like 2009.
PS3 sales picked up when GTA IV and MGS IV came out heck 2008 really made the PS3 shine.
And I can also tell why they don't - late ports, performance issues, forcing motion control, no graphically impressive games, no real "must have" games, nothing we didn't already see in one form or another.
Hence, they don't feel like shelling out 300 bucks to play those games, just like they didn't feel to shell out 599 bucks to play the launch PS3 titles...
[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]
[QUOTE="blackace"] Same thing happened to the PS3 after it launched as well. Software sales were pretty poor to start mainly because the price of the hardware was so high. People were bringing the system back because They couldn't sell them on EBay for a profit. There's wasn't anything worth playing on the PS3 until MGS IV came over a year later. Then when the PS3 Slim came out, hardware sales took off. Nintendo may need to lower the price some, but they definitely need more must have software if they want to move more units. LegatoSkyheart
You sound delusional: Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank TOD, The Eye of Judgement, Singstar, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Folklore, Resistance, and multiplats were all on PS3 its first year. How on earth were those games not worth playing? Blackace gonna blackace
Just like the WiiU, the WiiU has games to play, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, ZombiU, New Super Mario Bros. U, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Ninja Gaiden 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Batman Arkham City.
Do people care? Well obviously no.
Just like the PS3 back in the day, No one rushed to go get a PS3 for Uncharted Drake's Fortune or Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm.
Heck I didn't even care about Uncharted till 2 came out and that was like 2009.
PS3 sales picked up when GTA IV and MGS IV came out heck 2008 really made the PS3 shine.
The thing is, PS3 was getting next gen multiplats while WiiU is getting last gen multiplats.
No one bought a 360 for HD versions of Burnout Revenge, Hitman Bloody Money, or Fifa 06 (PS2 games) either.
They bought them for actual next gen exclusives (PDZ, PGR3, Kameo, etc) and next gen multiplats (Oblivion, COD2, etc).
There needs to be some PC/WiiU games sharpish, if Nintendo is actually wanting to convince people this thing is really a "next gen" machine.
Wii U has no games. What did you expect? The only games worth playing are a couple first party games and last gen ports. It's wii all over again.
Wii fans aren't falling for that again and buying Wii U.
Nintendo banked on casuals which is their big mistake. Casuals dont work like that. They will stick with their original Wii and pull it out of the closet once every 25 years.
Very happy to see the casuals abandoning Nintendo. I ditched them the moment they released that piece of **** AKA the Wii.
[QUOTE="NineTailedGoku"]
[QUOTE="blackace"] Same thing happened to the PS3 after it launched as well. Software sales were pretty poor to start mainly because the price of the hardware was so high. People were bringing the system back because They couldn't sell them on EBay for a profit. There's wasn't anything worth playing on the PS3 until MGS IV came over a year later. Then when the PS3 Slim came out, hardware sales took off. Nintendo may need to lower the price some, but they definitely need more must have software if they want to move more units. LegatoSkyheart
You sound delusional: Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank TOD, The Eye of Judgement, Singstar, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Folklore, Resistance, and multiplats were all on PS3 its first year. How on earth were those games not worth playing? Blackace gonna blackace
Just like the WiiU, the WiiU has games to play, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, ZombiU, New Super Mario Bros. U, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Ninja Gaiden 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Batman Arkham City.
Do people care? Well obviously no.
Just like the PS3 back in the day, No one rushed to go get a PS3 for Uncharted Drake's Fortune or Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm.
Heck I didn't even care about Uncharted till 2 came out and that was like 2009.
PS3 sales picked up when GTA IV and MGS IV came out heck 2008 really made the PS3 shine.
no one rushed to get a ps3 because it was 500-600 dollars, lets be real hereI do have some worries about the whole "nintendo salvaged the 3ds so they can do the same with the wii u" arguments. They did of course, but i think in this scenario the variables are much different.
For one, 3DS had no competition (outside smartphones) in it's market, as the vita hadn't been launched (and would not until the following spring). In the Wii U's case, the 360/ps3 are still being supported well, and it looks like consoles will be coming out next fall/holiday season.
Second, nintendo seems to have a much better reputation in the handheld market than in the home console market, so i think users were more willing to give the 3ds the benefit of the doubt. Their handhelds generally get very good 1st and 3rd party support, while their home consoles have had sparse 3rd party support and it's competitor consoles had features that made nintendo's lookng more unappealing.
I don't see the Wii U getting the same patience the 3DS did. Also the Vita ended up flopping early, essentially keeping 3ds momentum up even after the launch. i think it would be a huge shocker if both microsoft and sony blow it with their next consoles.
Now I think Wii U will be fine. I think there will be an audience for it when the price comes down and software support ramps up (if it does). I think Nintendo has done a poor job marketing it, but the console does have some appeal. I think being able to play wii u games on the gamepad is an underappreciated feature that I think people will eventually begin to appreciate, and the tablet screen does offer a nice utility device when using entertainment apps on the wii u (though smartglass might be a more sensible solution, as you don't have to increase costs by adding a screen directly on the controller, instead using an outside device).
If this device drops to around $200, with some interesting casual games, some new nintendo IPs and enough interesting exclusives for hardcore gamers, i believe it will be able to find it's niche this gen. Maybe not the ideal niche for nintendo, but then again maybe they should have planned the console better.
Nintendo banked on casuals which is their big mistake. Casuals dont work like that. They will stick with their original Wii and pull it out of the closet once every 25 years.
Very happy to see the casuals abandoning Nintendo. I ditched them the moment they released that piece of **** AKA the Wii.
Fizzman
come on, the wii was disappointing after it's initial novelty, but don't lie and pretend like when you picked up wii sports for the first time a part of you didn't find some enjoyment in it. I think it was a mistake to go the direction they did with the wii u, and they should have killed the wii sooner, but gamers these days are way too butthurt about a $200 console that was pretty fun and interesting when it first launched.
[QUOTE="locopatho"]
The thing is, PS3 was getting next gen multiplats while WiiU is getting last gen multiplats.
aroxx_ab
Yeah but need be fair, kinda impossible for WiiU to get MS/Sony "next gen" multiplat when those not even out on the market yet....jeeez :|
No need to wait for them. PC/WiiU baby. 360/PC games like COD2, Oblivion, Condemned, Viva Pinata, Gears of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect, were all pretty big for 360 in it's first 2 years on the market. How bout a WiiU/PC Sim City? Or Witcher 3? Or Total War?And I can also tell why they don't - late ports, performance issues, forcing motion control, no graphically impressive games, no real "must have" games, nothing we didn't already see in one form or another.
Hence, they don't feel like shelling out 300 bucks to play those games, just like they didn't feel to shell out 599 bucks to play the launch PS3 titles...
nameless12345
Hardly any of the WiiU Launch Titles Forced Motion Control at all. Every Game Launched on the WiiU thus far can be played using the Gamepad. Only games I know that actually had you use the Wiimote and Nunchuck were Nintendo Land and New Super Mario Bros. U for Multiplayer Purposes.
no one rushed to get a ps3 because it was 500-600 dollars, lets be real hereChris_Williams
That.....is quite true.
The thing is, PS3 was getting next gen multiplats while WiiU is getting last gen multiplats.
No one bought a 360 for HD versions of Burnout Revenge, Hitman Bloody Money, or Fifa 06 (PS2 games) either.
They bought them for actual next gen exclusives (PDZ, PGR3, Kameo, etc) and next gen multiplats (Oblivion, COD2, etc).
There needs to be some PC/WiiU games sharpish, if Nintendo is actually wanting to convince people this thing is really a "next gen" machine.
locopatho
Thing is for WiiU, there is no "Next Gen" system to share Multiplats with, only current gen. It's missing out on a lot of great Multiplat games, but the WiiU also got Tekken Tag 2, Darksiders 2, Assassin's Creed 3, and Call of Duty Black Ops 2 around the same time the other Systems got them.
[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"][QUOTE="locopatho"]
The thing is, PS3 was getting next gen multiplats while WiiU is getting last gen multiplats.
locopatho
Yeah but need be fair, kinda impossible for WiiU to get MS/Sony "next gen" multiplat when those not even out on the market yet....jeeez :|
No need to wait for them. PC/WiiU baby. 360/PC games like COD2, Oblivion, Condemned, Viva Pinata, Gears of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect, were all pretty big for 360 in it's first 2 years on the market. How bout a WiiU/PC Sim City? Or Witcher 3? Or Total War?Sim City and Total war(strategy?) is both PC games you want play with KB/M, consoles is irrelevant.
Wither 3 we don't know more than it will be on "next gen hardware" what the devs now mean with that.
No need to wait for them. PC/WiiU baby. 360/PC games like COD2, Oblivion, Condemned, Viva Pinata, Gears of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect, were all pretty big for 360 in it's first 2 years on the market. How bout a WiiU/PC Sim City? Or Witcher 3? Or Total War?[QUOTE="locopatho"][QUOTE="aroxx_ab"]
Yeah but need be fair, kinda impossible for WiiU to get MS/Sony "next gen" multiplat when those not even out on the market yet....jeeez :|
aroxx_ab
Sim City and Total war(strategy?) is both PC games you want play with KB/M, consoles is irrelevant.
Wither 3 we don't know more than it will be on "next gen hardware" what the devs now mean with that.
Nah sorry you don't get to decide what's relevant. Just making excuses now...[QUOTE="aroxx_ab"][QUOTE="locopatho"] No need to wait for them. PC/WiiU baby. 360/PC games like COD2, Oblivion, Condemned, Viva Pinata, Gears of War, Bioshock, Mass Effect, were all pretty big for 360 in it's first 2 years on the market. How bout a WiiU/PC Sim City? Or Witcher 3? Or Total War?locopatho
Sim City and Total war(strategy?) is both PC games you want play with KB/M, consoles is irrelevant.
Wither 3 we don't know more than it will be on "next gen hardware" what the devs now mean with that.
Nah sorry you don't get to decide what's relevant. Just making excuses now...Sure it not up to me to decide, but who really want play strategy games on consoles ?:lol:
IMO, the problem with Nintendo, and its 3rd party support, is the same problem the PC has, only that the PC can solve the issue through other methods. The problem is, lazy developers or high risk in whats turning out to be a high cost industry. PC gamers have complained of the plethora of crap ports that get to the system, why? Because the developers simply do not wish to put more hours into optimizing it better for the platform and just focus on consoles. With the WiiU, and ever since the Wii, you add something different to the normal formula, something the other consoles do not have. Therefore, these developers have to invest in more hours and incur in higher costs to develop a 'different' version of the game that takes advantages of the gimmicks of said console. If they choose to ignore the gimmicks, as it happens on the PS Vita as well, then the reviewers simply put the game down a bit or heavily because it "didn't take advantage of the friggin tablet." Then, you take the absurd percentage of gamers who don't read or listen to reviews to compare whether or not the game interests them, and if what the reviewer points out as flaws are also considered flaws in their respective point of view and just base their decision of buying the game on a numeric score that is, again, relative to the value the reviewer gives to that category (replayability for example, may not be as high in the chart for some as it is for others, therefore it may not affect their overall score by that much).
So, in attempting to differentiate itself from the rest, Nintendo has done just that, differentiate itself. Enough to the point of withdrawing the attention of studios that either lack the funds to put an effort into making a version for it, or simply lack the interest in the first place to do it. As soon as the next consoles hit, even if their difference in power ends up not being THAT huge, the excuse will then be that, the version made for the more 'powerful' console cannot be made available on the lesser one and yet, the version that could be made available on the most powerful of them all, the PC, cannot be made efficiently enough because of some 'other' reason.
[QUOTE="clone01"]
You know, the system has been out for like 3 months. Why don't we wait a little and see what happens, eh?
psymon100
I own one.
I've been waiting 3 months mate :(
I'm really looking forward to F-Zero though.
The Best thing about WiiU right now is Wii mode.
So many great games on the Wii. Then again I can't post these games on Miiverse...would be awesome if I could.
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[QUOTE="blackace"] Same thing happened to the PS3 after it launched as well. Software sales were pretty poor to start mainly because the price of the hardware was so high. People were bringing the system back because They couldn't sell them on EBay for a profit. There's wasn't anything worth playing on the PS3 until MGS IV came over a year later. Then when the PS3 Slim came out, hardware sales took off. Nintendo may need to lower the price some, but they definitely need more must have software if they want to move more units. LegatoSkyheart
You sound delusional: Uncharted Drakes Fortune, Ratchet and Clank TOD, The Eye of Judgement, Singstar, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm, Folklore, Resistance, and multiplats were all on PS3 its first year. How on earth were those games not worth playing? Blackace gonna blackace
Just like the WiiU, the WiiU has games to play, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, ZombiU, New Super Mario Bros. U, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Ninja Gaiden 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Batman Arkham City.
Do people care? Well obviously no.
Just like the PS3 back in the day, No one rushed to go get a PS3 for Uncharted Drake's Fortune or Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm.
Heck I didn't even care about Uncharted till 2 came out and that was like 2009.
PS3 sales picked up when GTA IV and MGS IV came out heck 2008 really made the PS3 shine.
Dude most of the games u just listed are this gens ports that people have already played. Wow lets get a wiiu so we can play games we played last year on the 360/ps3, you see the problem here? The wiiu is already outdated and it just released.[QUOTE="psymon100"]
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You know, the system has been out for like 3 months. Why don't we wait a little and see what happens, eh?
LegatoSkyheart
I own one.
I've been waiting 3 months mate :(
I'm really looking forward to F-Zero though.
The Best thing about WiiU right now is Wii mode.
So many great games on the Wii. Then again I can't post these games on Miiverse...would be awesome if I could.
I gave up on Wii mode as Super mario galaxy froze. I still have my Wii so I'm covered.
But yeah, basically there are more games I'd be keen to play on Wii than Wii U. But really that's a situation that's entirely my fault. I got a Wii about 8 months ago when Wii was so sold, and Wii U from it's launch.
I gave up on Wii mode as Super mario galaxy froze. I still have my Wii so I'm covered.
But yeah, basically there are more games I'd be keen to play on Wii than Wii U. But really that's a situation that's entirely my fault. I got a Wii about 8 months ago when Wii was so sold, and Wii U from it's launch.
psymon100
Your WiiU froze in Wii mode? That's weird I played Monster Hunter Tri for hours and didn't get any freezing. Only problem I get now and then is when I tried redownloading Phoenix Wright.
Always some stupid error.
Seriously, with all the rumors about the next Xbox &/or the next Playstation console blocking used games, no 360/XBLA or PS3/PSN BC, etc., I'm getting the feeling that the Wii U may wind up becoming the console to own later on down the road, especially when it comes to future Japanese 3rd party support.
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Nintendo banked on casuals which is their big mistake. Casuals dont work like that. They will stick with their original Wii and pull it out of the closet once every 25 years.
Very happy to see the casuals abandoning Nintendo. I ditched them the moment they released that piece of **** AKA the Wii.
deomag4
come on, the wii was disappointing after it's initial novelty, but don't lie and pretend like when you picked up wii sports for the first time a part of you didn't find some enjoyment in it. I think it was a mistake to go the direction they did with the wii u, and they should have killed the wii sooner, but gamers these days are way too butthurt about a $200 console that was pretty fun and interesting when it first launched.
I bought a Wii hoping i would stop hating those god awful motion controls. Unfortunately i was never able to get used to sluggish/inaccurate controls. I hated Wii Sports with a passion because it was so one dimensional and boring.
That would only make sense.You know, the system has been out for like 3 months. Why don't we wait a little and see what happens, eh?
clone01
I think the game industry may be the only industry in which the producers are every bit as dumb as their consumers.
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You know, the system has been out for like 3 months. Why don't we wait a little and see what happens, eh?
psymon100
I own one.
I've been waiting 3 months mate :(
I'm really looking forward to F-Zero though.
Whatever happens with it, there will be more titles. Its just going to take some time, unfortunately.[QUOTE="deomag4"]
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
Nintendo banked on casuals which is their big mistake. Casuals dont work like that. They will stick with their original Wii and pull it out of the closet once every 25 years.
Very happy to see the casuals abandoning Nintendo. I ditched them the moment they released that piece of **** AKA the Wii.
Fizzman
come on, the wii was disappointing after it's initial novelty, but don't lie and pretend like when you picked up wii sports for the first time a part of you didn't find some enjoyment in it. I think it was a mistake to go the direction they did with the wii u, and they should have killed the wii sooner, but gamers these days are way too butthurt about a $200 console that was pretty fun and interesting when it first launched.
I bought a Wii hoping i would stop hating those god awful motion controls. Unfortunately i was never able to get used to sluggish/inaccurate controls. I hated Wii Sports with a passion because it was so one dimensional and boring.
stop hating motion controls?? it's not like motion controls were all that prevalent prior to the wii (i had an eye-toy, though that sucked i'll admit)... i mean wii sports is not a deep game, it's meant to be a casual experience with friends while you are drinking or family members. In my opinion as a core console the wii was very lacking, but as a social console i admittedly had fun experiences with it. I was a bit disappointed with wii swordfighting (on sports resort), though admittedly i should have saw that coming seeing as it was probably to be expect that every game turned into a wagglefest rather than "legit" swordfighting.
The console has only been out for a few months and the backlash it gets from devs is just ridiculous. They are too damn lazy to port games over to it, I just will never understand the hate that Ninty gets from Third Party.
[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]Dude most of the games u just listed are this gens ports that people have already played. Wow lets get a wiiu so we can play games we played last year on the 360/ps3, you see the problem here? The wiiu is already outdated and it just released.Just like the WiiU, the WiiU has games to play, Mass Effect 3, Assassin's Creed 3, ZombiU, New Super Mario Bros. U, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Ninja Gaiden 3, Tekken Tag Tournament 2, Batman Arkham City.
Do people care? Well obviously no.
Just like the PS3 back in the day, No one rushed to go get a PS3 for Uncharted Drake's Fortune or Heavenly Sword or Motorstorm.
Heck I didn't even care about Uncharted till 2 came out and that was like 2009.
PS3 sales picked up when GTA IV and MGS IV came out heck 2008 really made the PS3 shine.
Advid-Gamer
That's a poor excuse, the only arguement you have with that against me is Batman Arkham City which was released in 2011, one full year and it gets released on the WiiU, full price.
The Rest Mass Effect 3, Ninja Gaiden 3, Call of Duty Black Ops 2, Assassin's Creed 3, ZombiU, New Super Mario Bros. U, and Tekken Tag Tournament were 2012 releases.
Mass Effect 3 and Ninja Gaiden 3 were early 2012, but that doesn't make them any less relevent as Assassin's Creed or Call of Duty.
If I remember correctly Assassin's Creed 3 and COD:BLOPS2 actually released with the other Systems too, but were held back for the Novemeber Launch.
All of the games the WiiU launched with safe for Batman are/were relevent releases for the Console, Legitamate Multiplats shared with "Last Gen" consoles.
There can not be any shared Multiplats with Next Gen Consoles simply because they're not out there in the market.
Your argument would hold if WiiU had Bioshock 1 or Mirror's Edge or Oblivion or GTA IV as launch titles since they were released in 2007-2008 for the most part and that's not the issue with the WiiU.
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[QUOTE="Fizzman"]
Nintendo banked on casuals which is their big mistake. Casuals dont work like that. They will stick with their original Wii and pull it out of the closet once every 25 years.
Very happy to see the casuals abandoning Nintendo. I ditched them the moment they released that piece of **** AKA the Wii.
Fizzman
come on, the wii was disappointing after it's initial novelty, but don't lie and pretend like when you picked up wii sports for the first time a part of you didn't find some enjoyment in it. I think it was a mistake to go the direction they did with the wii u, and they should have killed the wii sooner, but gamers these days are way too butthurt about a $200 console that was pretty fun and interesting when it first launched.
I bought a Wii hoping i would stop hating those god awful motion controls. Unfortunately i was never able to get used to sluggish/inaccurate controls. I hated Wii Sports with a passion because it was so one dimensional and boring.
If the controls were "sluggish/inaccurate", then all Wii games would have had bad scores.Please Log In to post.
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